Cigar Hustlers Podcast 247 Birthday, Fires and Cease and Desist!!
Episode Summary
Episode 247 of A Cigar Hustler's Podcast opens with a long run of birthday shout-outs for co-host Mike Palmer ("BDP"), including video messages from friends across the cigar community — Fred Rewey, Aaron Loomis, the Down 2 Herf crew, Matt Tai and Garrett Robinson of HowBoutThatCigar.com, and a surprise live call-in from Matt Booth of Room 101. Palmer recaps how his wife Adrian took him out for the day, the anonymous gag gift he received at the shop, and he gets candid about what has been a tough year following his father's death in January.
The news segment is the meat of the episode. The hosts report on the major fire at the Zona Franca La Palma complex in Tamboril, Dominican Republic, which destroyed much of the Tabacalera William Ventura and Inter Cigar SA facilities — the factories behind ADVentura and ADV & McKay, and a production home for brands like Caldwell, Room 101 and Freud Cigar Co. Production is shifting to the Venturas' smaller El Maestro facility while PDR Cigars' nearby factory was threatened but spared. They also cover Hurricane Fiona shutting down Dominican cigar factories for a day, the coming threat of Hurricane Ian to Florida, and their own take on Floridian storm panic.
The biggest industry story is the acrimonious split between Crowned Heads and Ace Prime, now rebranded as Luciano Cigars. The hosts walk through the terminated distribution agreement effective November 1, the dueling cease and desist letters between Crowned Heads and Luciano Morales, the renaming of the Tabacalera Pichardo factory to Luciano's Cigar Factory, and the "dream team" hires including former NBA player Tiago Splitter. Other news includes the Espinosa 10th Anniversary release, El Septimo's 8,000-square-foot Woodland Hills lounge and plans for 30 U.S. stores, InterTabac 2022 attendance falling 12.3% versus 2019, and the Cordoba & Morales Nica Reaper — an all-ligero 6x52 toro debuting at Cigar Hustler.
The show closes with a call-in from Hector Alfonso Sr. of Espinosa Cigars, who confirms Cigar Hustler will get first-allocation Espinosa 10th Anniversary and Knuckle Sandwich, talks about the dormant Heckle & Jekyll show, and trades NFL trash talk about the Dolphins, Bills and Bucs.
In This Episode
- 01Birthday Shout-Outs for Mike PalmerA parade of video and audio birthday messages from cigar industry friends and podcasters, capped by a live call from Matt Booth of Room 101.
- 02Fire Destroys Tabacalera William Ventura and Inter Cigar SAA massive fire in the Zona Franca La Palma complex in Tamboril, Dominican Republic consumes most of two factories, with production moving to the smaller El Maestro facility.
- 03Hurricane Fiona and Hurricane IanFiona shuts down all Dominican cigar factories for a day while the hosts brace for Ian and vent about Florida storm panic and school closures.
- 04Crowned Heads and Ace Prime Part WaysThe distribution agreement ends effective November 1, with both sides claiming they terminated first and dueling cease and desist letters flying.
- 05Ace Prime Rebrands as Luciano CigarsLuciano Morales launches independent U.S. distribution, renames the Tabacalera Pichardo factory, and assembles a 'dream team' including Tiago Splitter.
- 06Espinosa 10th Anniversary ShippingA 6x52 toro with an Ecuadorian Habano hybrid wrapper over Nicaraguan binder and filler, made at AJ Fernandez's San Lotano factory, limited to 1,500 boxes.
- 07El Septimo's First U.S. Lounge and InterTabac 2022El Septimo opens an 8,000-square-foot Woodland Hills lounge with plans for 30 stores, while InterTabac attendance drops 12.3% from 2019.
- 08Hector Alfonso Sr. Call-In and NFL TalkEspinosa's Hector Alfonso Sr. confirms allocations of the 10th Anniversary and Knuckle Sandwich before the show devolves into Dolphins-Bills trash talk.
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Transcript
I think your Carol Burnett thing where you say hello, that's how you're actually saying hello to your children or something. Welcome to episode 247. I almost forgot to take my part. Cigar Hustlers.
Cigar Hustler Podcast. I feel like you can't do the whole song, maybe copy it in French or something. Mike Palmer. I have birthday.
It's Mike Palmer. He has a podcast. Everybody has a f***ing podcast right now. Cigar reviewer.
Oh. Oh, okay. So he reviews cigars. Great.
Got another one. Do you want to guess who they are? All right, yeah, all right. Yeah, that's Fred Rui.
Yeah, that's Fred Rui. Hey everybody, just wanted to have a quick shout out and a happy birthday to Mike Palmer, a great friend of mine, known him a long time. Just wanted to wish him a happy birthday. Also, congratulations on the successful podcast, very unique.
Don't know anybody that really does podcasts. So, happy birthday, and hope you have a good one, and we'll talk to you soon. Sounds a little static. Great.
Can we, uh, stop getting these ******* requests? This is, this is just absolutely stupid. This is Mike's system. All right, then there's, I have a birthday.
Mike, I'll put these videos up. Speaking of boots and those guys, um, fellas, I don't know if you knew this, but, uh, Mike Palmer's birthday is coming up and, uh, I wanted to give him a special shout out for his birthday. Shout out for his birthday. Palmer, happy birthday, buddy.
I'm down to her. Happy birthday, Mike. You're hilarious. Caleb's a big fan.
Caleb listens to all the episodes. Don't talk over them. It's so weird hearing Jerry's voice. I'll see you give you a shout out.
Happy birthday. He's got a great radio voice. I love it. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're funny. He's like our Jerry. He's the voice of Cigar Hustle.
Yeah, he's got a great voice for being on air. He also seems like he does all the work. So I actually, I understand that Mike, I get that. That's true.
Outwork everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn right. That's Mike.
I know, but I had to throw that in there. It seemed appropriate. Yeah. So just a happy birthday to you, buddy, and enjoy your day.
All right? Here comes the next one. So a guy named Mike wanted us to wish him a happy birthday. Oh my God.
Aaron Loomis. Exactly. Who's this? Oh!
Oh, Cigar Hustler. It's the whole crowd. Yeah. This is the guy that Dave Burke talks crap about all the time.
Oh, that's right. That's right. Dave hates him. Dave hates him.
I love that. Yeah, he hates his glasses and everything. 75 birthday. Oh, no.
Right. Need to get him a shirt. From all of us at Development Palette type birthday, Mike. Oh, no.
Happy birthday. Good time. Oh, that's so sweet. And I hope that we get the chance to sit down and spoke with you soon.
Take it easy. That is so sweet. Oh. Should I sing happy birthday?
That's Brett. Yep. Yeah. Maybe I'll just keep smoking this conversation.
I knew it was him at O. Either way. It's a backology. Mr.
Bravo Delta Papa. Happy birthday. Bravo Delta Papa. Keep putting good in the week.
IDP. Hey guys, it's Matt Tai. And Garrett Robinson. com, we want to wish a big happy birthday to Mr.
Mike Palmer. So Mike, I just hope your Ovaltine is in good condition. If you need any recommendations for underwear situation, we know a couple people that could not. That can help.
But honestly, BDP, have an amazing birthday, smoke wonderful cigars, and here's to many more. Absolutely. And you may not need the adult underwear. I mean, not adult underwear, what do you call it?
The poise pads or, I don't know, it depends, whatever your situation is. We're not judging. We're not judging. Yeah, there's no, there's no judgment.
No judgment. You know, you may need it, you may not. You may not. It's okay.
And yeah, like Garrett said, the Ovaltine, we hope it treats you well. Yes. Prunes. Prunes.
I almost said KY, but what I meant to say was Bengay. That's, I mean, they-- Both might be helpful. That's true, depending on your situation. Again.
No judging. No judging. So, brother, have a great birthday, and celebrate with the people you love, and we hope to see you again soon. And burn cigars, not Bridges.
See you guys. I prefer to burn them when I'm on them. Hey Mike, happy birthday. Love big ashes.
I wouldn't know that one. Nah, it was big ashes. You don't know her. She's got an Instagram influencer thing.
Thank you everybody for the birthday wishes. Yes, that was lovely. I got bumped last week for the guests, but... That's right, because Howard G is more important than Howard.
Yeah, certainly, certainly. And do you need it now? I do. I might as well just get it out of the way.
Alright, hold on, let me un-pair mine. Yeah, un-pair yours. Well, I like this cigar. On the Patreon, we're gonna be doing the Plasencia Alma Fuerte fucking, I don't know, Eduardo Hexagon Kamehameha.
Alright, you ready? 9 grams, I don't know what to say. Don't give out any information now. Oh, I mean, well, I have to write that down.
Alright, go ahead. I have to write that down. You just asked me to forget the device, so I forgot it for you. Well, thank it for connecting back.
It's gotta come up. It's flashing. Okay, just calm down. You're always yelling.
Did you get it? This makes it great. 1 plus 9 5G, what the fuck is that? There it is.
Oh my God. Oh yeah, what is 1 plus 9 5G? Yeah, and then there's iPhone 9. iPhone 361.
Yeah. Don't know what that is either. You know... Somebody's got the room bugged.
I mean, you know, you did nothing for Phil, though. It was Phil's birthday as well. It was kind of shitty. Well, Phil should do his own birthday stuff.
You want him to just take over our mics? Well, if he gave me something, I could play it. They did mention him on Down to Herve. Well, they mentioned Boots, the other guy.
What's going on there? I don't know what you're trying to do. There it is. I'll turn it up.
Don't worry, I'll turn it up. Just calm down. Hello. Hello.
Hello. Oh, hello. Hello. Oh, hello.
Well, hello. How are you? What you doing? We're podcasting right now.
Right now at this moment. And we just saw this whole tirade from this guy. He did this whole video of people that were wishing him something. And I know that you want to wish him something.
So. I desperately, deep down into the underbelly of my subcocular region, I need, need, in fact, to wish someone something. I think you know who we're talking about, too. Maybe.
Yes, it's possible. Pretty good chance. Yes. Actually, definitely, because we talked about it earlier, not to be a spoiler.
So, I know that you know who I decided to wish something. Yes, and you know that I know that you decided something. So, are we going to do that now, or would you like to call back tomorrow? Yeah, you know, you're on this.
Let's do this. Come on. Oh, you want to do it now? This is all you get, right now.
We chat about nothing else. Hey, Big Dick Palmer, you there? Where's my man BDP? I'm right here, right here.
Happy Birthday, Mr. President. Happy Birthday to you! And Boots!
Oh! Phil! Oh, Boots! Boom.
And Boots. Oh, Boots a Delic. My guy. Oh, I fucking love Boots, bro.
Well, thank you, Mr. Boots. That's very nice of you. Oh, man.
I, look, man, as you may have heard, there were some, You know, some rumblings in the forest about me missing another mutual friend of ours birthday and wishing them well and I got to hear a lot about that. Obviously won't do it again. It's been like carved into my subconscious. I'll give you a reminder next year.
Text them. Oh, that would be great. I'll text you the day before. Yes.
Yeah, thanks. Not a problem. I didn't know he was going to get so upset this year at not hearing from you. You have to understand that we have a connection and I understood because as beside himself as he was, I myself when realizing I was equally as disappointed in the universe for not bringing the information to me sooner.
Yes. You know? Yeah. But I didn't want to make the same mistakes with you.
I appreciate that. BDP. Thank you. Thank you very much.
Of course. There you go. And where's Boots? Is Boots there?
Yeah, he's there. What's up, Matt? He's right here. He's there?
Yes. If anybody doesn't know, it's Matt Booth from Ramona One. Right. Yes.
How could you not know who that voice is? If they don't know, whatever. You think that when I get on the mic, they either know or they don't know. They're like, who is this fucking lunatic?
He's a lunatic. What is this guy? " So, that's one or the other. Yeah.
Right. So, I was having a brief conversation with Matthew when I was at the gym. Yes. And he's like, "I stopped working out because my elbow hurts.
" Oh, you hurt his elbow. Yeah. I'm like, "So you can't do legs? " No, no.
You can't get up off the thing. You can push up with the elbow. Bro, if I started doing legs aggressively, this dog is... It's just the fucking, the striations, like you, you, you asked Jeremy McDonald about my thighs, you just ask him, you have him on your, your, your little chair and ask him, Thighmaster, Jeff, I call him Jeff, he owns the, Thighmaster, the, the, the campfire, the, you know, the camp, the, the, what do they call them, the den masters molestation, right, what, what is that, the, when the kids go camping with the dude and the With the Boy Scouts?
With the Boy Scouts? He made a cigar of it. There you go! You're talking about the California guy?
What did he call his name? Yeah, it's Jeff! Yeah, I know him. Apparently.
Not that well. I don't know him by his full name. Yeah. No, I named him Jeff.
He's now Jeff. The universe knows him as Jeff. Oh, okay. Oh, excellent.
His birth certificate, fuck that. That's Jeff. Now, you just ask him. Just have a little, you know, that's all, you should only talk to him about that.
And then when he tries to like promote his, like his actual business, just hang up. Oh, I can do that. Nice, that'd be fun. I can do that.
Yeah. I think that's the way to do it. Yeah. Keep them wanting more.
Exactly. I'm about to do that right now. Thanks. Nice.
Well, that's great. Yes. Well, hey. Thank you so much for calling, Matthew.
You're a sweet man. Yes, thank you for the birthday wishes. Thank you. Of course, Palmer and Boots and I, I'm grateful for the opportunity to give those well wishes.
And I will speak with you all in the very near future. Thank you. Thank you. All right, brother.
Thank you. Thanks, man. I'll talk to you later today. All right.
Take it easy, fellas. All right. Bye-bye. Later.
I got a happy birthday from Uncle Skip. Of course you did. From Lightweight Heavy. Well, you know, like, I would never, ever, you know, expect it.
Right. From Lightweight Heavy. Like, I wouldn't expect it from John. No, no.
He was actually, yeah, I wouldn't expect it from John. I don't know each other that well. Yeah. But I would be pleasantly surprised if he did.
You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Well, he was. And then Skip liked Sean's happy birthday to me, and then I immediately got the message from Skip after that.
Ah. Ah. Yes. Lightweight Heavy is doing the job.
Right. Keeping everybody on par. Right. Everyone knows that way, right?
Yes. But I did not hear from Mrs. Rosales. He's a busy man.
Yeah, yeah. He flies, you know. Yeah, yeah. Very busy.
He's in other countries. Yeah. Always selling around. Always selling, that's right.
Yeah. Okay. It's fine. It's fine.
We're all fine. Yes, yes. Everyone's fine. I didn't do the opening ad.
Should I do the opening ad now? Or will you just skip it? Just skip it. All right, just skip it.
Everybody knows. Email me for more information. Yeah, yeah. So my wife took me out for the day for my birthday.
We went out to breakfast, and then we went out to the beach and had a drink, and then we We went to executive, and had a cigar over there and a drink, and then we went to lunch, and then we went home and watched movies on TV, all my favorite things. Did you have a BDP? No. You didn't have a BDP on BDP day?
No, they didn't. Well, I had one at home, but I didn't have one at executive. Right, did you smoke one on the day, though? Yes.
On the day of? Yes, on the day of. Yeah, it's the day of the BDP. Yeah.
I did get a BDP from an anonymous guest here at the shop. Did you? A big wooden penis with a bottle opener on the end. Oh, you actually got a BDP, not a cigar.
Yeah, I got a BDP. Anonymous. Yeah, it was an anonymous gift. I don't know, when somebody starts buying me dicks, I got problems.
I'm like, you know, I don't, especially if it's anonymous. " Oh, that's so nice. Your employees. That's what it said.
That's nice. As a successful cigar store. A successful cigar store on the right, upstairs. And when you say employees, you mean Danielle and Keanu?
Apparently at this point, Steve as well on that one. Steve's more your boy, Steve's my guy, yeah. Actually, probably just Danielle, because Keanu is Greg's boy. Yeah, yeah, so we each have one.
Yeah, so we each have one. Currently. Oh, it's such a, it's, you know, you have to laugh, you just have to laugh at all of that. Yes.
But that's more Patreon content anyways. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I gotta tell you, you know, I fucked up this year, I don't know, I didn't, I don't think I fucked up last year, but I fucked up this year. For what?
It was Justice's birthday. Right. And on Justice's birthday, I normally smoke an Apollo Danny. Right, Apollo Danny.
Yeah, because I made that cigar. Right. You didn't smoke one this year? No, I didn't.
Oh, you did last year though. Yeah, I think that I've been consistent, I've been pretty consistent about this. Didn't I see? But I fucked it up this year.
Tony Guido smoked one? He posted it. Yeah. That's funny because it's cracked.
Yeah, I saw that. He said it had taken some time in his humor. Yeah, I mean, a Connecticut rapper, you know. Right.
I mean, it's gotta be, what, five, six years old? No. It's eight years old. Oh, is he eight now?
He's seven. Oh. Made it before he was born. Oh, so yeah, that's a long time he's sitting in a humidor.
Yeah. Getting crushed and moved. And he was right. And Guido was right.
I did sell them at first. Yeah. I did sell a small amount of them. Right.
And then I held the rest of them back. Right. That's enough for you to smoke till he could smoke one with you. But I keep giving them out to people, that's the problem.
Oh, I figured you never touched those. Every once in a while, I give one out to somebody. Here, you should have this. Right.
It's very special. Skip hates it, he thinks it's a terrible cigar. It makes me like it just a little bit more. I'm not gonna lie.
It's good. It's really good. The band is a little campy. Miami Vice.
Yeah, right. Yeah. I mean, back then it was very trendy, but now you're eight years in. Well, we were speculative if it was a boy or a girl, so you made a boy or a girl.
Right. Well, I understand why you didn't. I mean, shit, his name isn't even Apollo, for fuck's sake. Right.
Or Danny. Well, Danny was more of the girl's name. Well, I understand. When we had a girl after that, we didn't name her fucking Danny either.
That's right, you didn't. Yeah. Hmm. And my dad died, so we named her after my father.
Right. I mean, if you want to unpack all of it, Michael. No, no, let's not talk about the dead dad club at this point. Dead Dad Club.
Oh. Yeah. Because as I mentioned, no sense. Phil's the only person who's not in here yet.
No. I don't want to talk about that. Phil's the only member. Only non-member.
I feel like he's... Non-member. Yeah, only non-member. I feel like he's more emotional than both you or I when it comes to something like that, too.
Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you don't remember what happened last time? He doesn't like talking about death at all. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He'll leave the room. I remember that. He'll just get up and leave. When Greg brought up my dad, he starts crying at the show.
Oh, that's right. That's right. But then he has mentioned to me, I'm like, fuck you guys, and I had to walk away, I mean, yeah, that's three o'clock, he's gotta go home. Nevermind, you go home.
Nevermind, you go home. Sorry, we have to run the business of whenever, Bob. Yeah, we're short-staffed at the short-staffed. It's easier to run, there's less people to fuck things up now.
Yeah, it's true, you know. Listen, if you're gonna swing the sword, you gotta swing the sword, you know what I mean? That's right. Just be prepared to do the work.
It's not like... It's just that simple. If you've got to cover shifts, then you cover shifts. That's what a boss will do if shit goes sideways.
Right? Right. So Greg will be working. Well, now technically you were on the schedule, didn't it?
Yes, I was on the schedule for today. But Bob, she's in town for Justice's birthday. Oh, did she bring a present? You know what?
I honestly don't know. And I'm just trying to be... Or does she want a present? I'm just trying to be present, you know what I mean?
Like there. She's not staying at your house, is she? No, no, no. But the reality is, if I worked and then I went there, she'd have left, she'd be gone.
Right, she'd already been gone by then, right. Yeah, so, that's no blame. No, and you have to be there to be told that she doesn't love you anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, I don't know, if she's fighting with Greg, she... Oh, is she fighting with Greg? When she fought with Greg last time, she came up here. Man, it was weird.
It was weird. There's somebody there. Somebody there. You can come in, it's okay.
Is it Kenny? Oh, Jesus. He shouldn't even be here. He's supposed to be working.
The ice maker is leaking upstairs. Right now, hourly, he is sucking the life out of American properties. So, yeah, man. You know, just trying to be whatever.
Whatever. Yeah. I don't know. I didn't really do too much.
Oh, I got to hang out with Anne-Marie this weekend. We did a little pool thingy. Oh, are they still here? Yeah, they are still here.
here oh because she mentioned uh what last saturday we're all she wanted to come in to watch the show and then she didn't come in last monday yeah and i figure maybe because of howard g she didn't come in but she didn't come in tonight either so big fan she is a big fan big fan yes yeah she should be here i know that i think they're probably panicking about the hurricane though oh like they like they're not floridians when are they supposed to leave i think they leave friday oh On Leibay. What's that look, man? It's a hurricane. We have friends supposed to fly in, and they're probably not going to be able to fly in.
They're supposed to fly in on Thursday night. Yeah, things are going to be kind of messy. Yeah, it's going to be a little messy for a couple of days. But the reality is that, look, if you don't live on the coast, what the fuck are you worried about?
Flooding and power going up? The West Coast is supposed to be a lot of flooding. Okay. I didn't know what he was doing.
I thought he was coming over to move a camera. Well, we don't live on the West Coast. No, no, we don't. We're in the middle.
So we'll get the tornadoes. You may get power outages, you may get some floods or whatever. Or you may get nothing. Right.
Still up in the air. Yeah. If I get power outages, I'm just going to hang out at your house. Well, last time we lost power too, but it seems up here hardly ever loses power.
Really? Last time. I think that we lost power for like a day. Here?
No, at our house. At your house, I think you did too. The people across the street did not have power. Right.
I gotta go. Put the curtains up like zombies are outside. Put all the blankets up on the windows. Do not turn anything on.
Light a candle. Light a candle. Light a candle. If you open the front door, light a candle.
Don't let them hear the TV. I would park out front to use the store's Wi-Fi to check my emails for work and then go back home. Adrian didn't want to come up and just sit up here. Well, we better get this party real because I'm already halfway through this cigar.
Are you? For Cigar. For the Patreon. For the Patreon.
Oh, and hit the bell. And then you do something else, ding, ding, ding, or something. We didn't do that, so. Hit the bell.
We didn't do that, so you don't have to say hit the bell. But I want them to hit the bell anyways. From the four corners of the world, all the cigar industry news you could possibly need. The Cigar Hustler Podcast Report, with Mike Two.
Tapical Era, William Ventura, and Inter Cigar SA Factory suffer massive fire. The massive fire that's just in, Michael, really happened today. , it had consumed the majority of the building and was still burning in the early afternoon, with firefighters actively working to get it under control and keep it from spreading further. Wow.
Tabacalera, William Ventura, has become an increasingly well-known and well-respected factory in recent years, In recent years, producing its own line of cigars under the ADV and McKay and Adventurer names, as well as making cigars for Caldwell, Bellado, or, yeah, Bellado, Freud Cigar, Room 101, Jay, oh, we should've asked man about the flyer, Room 101, Jay London Cigars, and others. Enter Cigar SA, is it home of the, uh, Balladuelo? I bet you he has no idea. Maybe.
I saw it right before, right before, uh, you showed up here today. Yeah. So I quickly grabbed the story. V.
& McKay Cigars Company, who was one of the several people to confirm news of the fire to half-do Cigar Hustler podcast. Damn it, I missed that one. The half-cigar hustler podcast. Because they only made it to me.
They don't contact me. You would think Phil would have switched to my camera when I was talking. Yeah, it's so weird. We've been camera two the entire show.
Yeah, it's so strange. No, we were camera three for a little bit. Oh, of course, you were camera three. Yeah, we're camera three right now.
Fire did not damage a small factory and facility owned by the Ventura is known as El Mestro, which is used to produce smaller projects. El Maestro. Maestro? I would be Maestro.
Yeah. Which is used to produce smaller projects. The company said that all production will immediately move to that facility while the main factory is unavailable. We are working tirelessly to keep from dramatically disrupting our workflow, but rest assured, we will be back stronger than ever, the company wrote in a press release.
We acknowledge that we have suffered a great loss, but our commitment to excellence is our sole focus. From William Ventura. Their commitment to ride the best cigars will not be compromised. There will be no compromisation.
The Zona Franca-Palma Complex is home to several cigar factories, including PDR Cigars Factory, which sits next to one of the buildings that's on fire. The latest report first had not yet spread to PDR, but remained a threat to the proximity of the two buildings. Wow. I imagine the Dominican Republic things burn quickly.
I would imagine. Yes. Plus, they're full of tobacco leaves. Well, normally, I think that it has something to do with their fermentation curation process.
Oh, I forgot about all the chemicals and stuff in the air, too. Skip, yeah, you're going to have to download me on that and tell me how that works and how shit catches fire. There's definitely something that happens. Something, yes.
I mean, look, how often do you hear of a fucking fire in a factory or a barn or whatever the fuck? It's not unusual, but it's not often. I would say that it's probably annual. Oh, you think so?
Yeah, at least once a year. Oh, the barns do, yeah. They have fires in the barns, don't they? They use to get out of control, probably.
Yeah, because it's part of their curation process. Right. Fire is dangerous. It's hot.
No, it'll be fine. The wood that it's made out of, it's a little dry, so it's going to be okay. All buildings made out of kindling. It's going to be fine.
It's going to be fine. Hurricane Fiona closes all Dominican cigar factories for Monday. Oh, really? That was the lead story, Till the Fire.
Oh. All Dominican Cigar Factors are closed due to the nationwide closing of businesses by President Luis Abanar due to a hurricane. Today, we were closed. Fiona, Category 1 hurricane.
In honor of Fiona. I just won. It closed for Category 1? Right, yeah.
They're obviously not Floridians. Yeah, we don't even close school for Category 1. I mean, it's a Category 3-4 approaching, and we're like, what are we doing on Thursday? Volusia has closed for Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
Are you fucking kidding me? That's East Coast. No, Volusia's here. Yeah, but if the winds are over 50 miles an hour, they blow the buses over.
Over 15? 50, 5-0. 5-0? 5-0.
At 60? No, at 51. 51, just poof, poof, poof, poof, poof. Full of the children.
And then all their feet are going, ah, ah. That's terrible. That's terrible. Little kids for the little small ones.
Yeah, yeah. Let's see. Fiona made landfall. So ridiculous.
I wouldn't fucking call it. I wouldn't call it. I'd be like, listen. Are your kids staying home?
As of right now? No. They're going to school. It's Monday.
It's Monday and it's a hurricane. Well, but something like that, they have to plan in advance. They can't say Wednesday morning, hey, everybody, don't walk to the bus stop. Shit, yeah, they can.
No, they can't. Why not? They massively text me when they don't want to release my kid because it's rainy. That's a private school, Michael.
Less people. Yeah, and? There's one school. Volusia County is much larger than your one.
Oh, they can't text everybody? No, no. People won't check their text messages. You're kidding me?
Let me tell you something about public schools, okay? What? First of all. What?
All right. The parents? Don't care. They don't give a fuck.
That's what I'm saying. If there's school or if there isn't school. And if you want to email them, if you want to text them, if you want to call them, if they don't give a shit, they're still going to drop off their fucking kid at school. There'll still be somebody dropping off their kid at school.
Well, what do you mean? yeah so hey look but the schools become uh shelters yes thank you you're welcome they have to set those up too my wife has to work it works out great for the kids huh they fucking drop them off there they get some cookies great hey when it's when the storm passes we'll uh we'll come and get you yeah storms really bad i can't get my kid can you just keep them but like this you know as a floridian as a floridian michael i can tell you that this is one of the things that frustrates me the most like i get that it's a storm i get that it can be disastrous i get all of these things right but the fucking statewide panic is horrendous it's fucking ridiculous well it's the people that haven't lived in florida for a long not even that no it's not that it's well yeah i guess it's that too but you know all the people from up north look the floridians i'm like stop you fucking have lived here for over a decade don't panic fuck it traditionally really yeah Tell that to Costco. Well, I mean, other people shop at Costco other than traditional Floridians. Dude, people are going nuts.
They buy all this shit. And then they're not even fucking respectful people. Like, they're shitty people. They're terrible people.
It's like, I gotta go. You know, people cut you off. They get stuff. Yeah, it becomes Thunderdome Plus.
You know, like Disney Plus, Thunderdome Plus. Thunderdome Plus. When it's a Cat 1 or above hitting the state of Florida. Right.
Yeah, it's ridiculous. I can't wait to get the stimulus checks for this, uh, this hurricane. Oh, I could really use that. We could here.
We will, no, oh, you should make a hurricane sampler. Let me just call this, let me just call this now of the people that will post the fucking lawn chairs knocked over and shit, because that's coming. I survived hurricane Ian. Yeah, hurricane Ian.
We can rebuild. We will rebuild. Right, we'll set the chair up. That's coming, just so you know.
So if you guys see it on Facebook, just go ahead and fucking tag me so I can see it, because I love seeing those. That will be the, instead of winter coming, Ian's coming. Yeah. So that'll be tomorrow.
We will rebuild. Right. Let's see where we're at. Models show the hurricane proper leaving the land of Dominican Republic heading northwest towards Turks and Caicos where it will hit tomorrow.
They said it will likely be upgraded to a Category 2 hurricane around the same time it gets near Santiago. As of early Monday afternoon, sources in Santiago told Cigar Hustler Podcast that it will, it was cloudy and rainy, but that people didn't seem too worried about the time. It's too bad it didn't hang out until Monday, the day they took off, so it would have fucking put out the fire at the fucking factory. Right, exactly.
Santiago's located, we don't care about this, let's see, oh, Rafael Nodal, a base sister company that sells most of the cigars that Garcia makes, told Cigar Hustle Podcasts that a preliminary report indicated that both the factory and its employees are all fine. Boom. Boom. Boom.
Ace Prime Crown Heads Ending Distribution Agreement. Yeah, I didn't see that coming. Ace Prime will soon be distributing its cigars on its own in a dueling announcement. The two companies have each announced that Crown Heads will no longer distribute Ace Prime products effective November 1st.
Based on a few public statements, the ending of the relationship is acrimonious. Late Thursday Crown... Acrimonious. Yes.
Is that like a conscious uncoupling? They're both men. They're both men? Yeah, they're both mad.
Listen, oh, they're both mad? Yes, mad. Oh. Yes.
If you just wait, there'll be follow-up stories. Okay. Crownheads issued a press release saying that it had terminated the agreement with Ace Prime and indicated that it believed that Ace Prime would be issuing its own statement in the future. Luciano, founder of Ace Prime, told Cigars Podcast that he was the one who terminated the agreement.
No, I broke up with her. That's right. No, she broke up. No, no, I broke up.
No, no, I broke up. No, me. Close Mike & Mike Productions. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, don't worry. You'll know, because we'll have the video footage and we'll be putting fucking gas all over this place. As for Ace Prime... I believe Mike was the one that closed it.
As for Ace Prime's next distributor, Morales told Cigar House for Puckets... Damn, I missed one. Damn, again. A larger announcement about the company, including its distribution, and larger changes to its structure will be made next week.
Hey, Espinosa's 10 year anniversary to ship next week. Are we getting those? I think so. I don't know.
I think I ordered them. I ordered them. How the fuck should I know? I ordered a cigar.
Oh, I got a happy birthday from Jack. I got a very nice message from Jack. Is that the yellow one? No, that's the other one.
That's the other one. I think I ordered that one. I thought that was really good, too. Oh, you had one at the show?
I think so. That was the one that Palmer wouldn't get me? Oh, yeah. I didn't have one.
Did somebody get you one? Somebody gave me one. Oh. It wasn't Tony.
I thought you had one. I ended up finally getting one. Oh. Can't wait to see him again.
You tried to kick me out of the booth for a fucking guy. The first batch of Espinosa 10 year anniversary of Cigar Celebrating the company's first decade in business is scheduled to head to stores early next week. I don't realize he's only been in business for 10 years. As Espinosa Cigars?
Right. Yeah, man, but he's been in the game forever. Right, he was a rep for other companies before, but I didn't know he only had- For Drew Estate. Right.
Oh, everybody worked for Drew Estate at one point or another. He was the guy. Oh, he was Drew. Yeah, he was, yeah, I heard that he was Eric Drew.
That's where Drew gets his bro that he is? Yeah, bro. Bro. Bro.
Bro. Bro. A couple of bros. Bro.
Cigar is a 6x52 Toro that uses an Ecuador and Habano hybrid wrapper over Nicaraguan binder and filler. J. Fernandez, San Latino Factory, which was not on fire, did not burn, is a limited edition with 1,500 boxes of 20 cigars being produced, a total run of 30,000 cigars. , the company's director of operation, said that the first patch, which he expects to ship on Monday, will only be a We're getting about 200 of those boxes.
Oh, so we're not getting any. You want to call him, put him on the spot? You want to call and ask him? Let's fuck with him.
He won't answer. What's up, bro? I'm not available. Not available.
I'm very busy. I love trying to get... Hey, you're on the podcast. Like, so don't say anything really stupid.
Are you still connected? Mm-hmm. Just full of celebrities tonight. Very exciting.
Did he wish you a happy birthday? No, Hector didn't. Oh, wow. Just Jack.
What's he doing? How's he not answering the phone? How's he not answering the phone? Hey, this is Victor.
Go ahead and leave your name and number in a brief message and I'll get back to you. At the tone, please record your message. Should we just continue with the podcast? Yeah.
Okay, we will. Crown heads, Luciano Morales send cease and desist letters to each other. Really? What is that going to do?
The dispute between Crown Heads and Ace Prime Cigars is heating up. Yesterday, attorneys representing Crown Heads sent a cease and desist letter to Luciano of Ace Prime, now known as Luciano Cigars, regarding that Crown Heads described as a defamatory comment made towards Crown Heads. So all heads with crowns, or just...? In a statement provided to Cigars Podcast, Crown Heads said, "On September 22nd, our attorney contacted Mr.
Luciano, And all associated with Luciano Cigars, formerly Ace Prime, and have served notice of the following: Mr. Morales and associates are to immediately cease and desist with any and all defamatory comments made towards Crown Heads and those associated with Crown Heads. To this point, these comments have included falsehoods, portions of electronic communications that were intentionally and deliberately altered to take out context and fabricated stories to hold zero truth or merit, rest assured Crown Heads is pursuing all legal remedies to defend its hard-earned reputation. Now, John Huber, co-founder of Crownheads, declined to comment on what comments the cease and desist references.
In a statement, Morales says he was one of the first to send a cease and desist. No, no, I said mine first. He sent a cease and desist to Crownheads. Unfortunately, Crownheads taken the unsavory approach of publicly airing a business dispute.
The truth is that we sent them a cease and desist first, which is supported by date emails. Wow. They apparently believe that it's necessary to take the position that the best defense is a great offense. I can prove this.
Sometimes disagreements can make people very emotional. Sometimes it's good to just record on someone's voicemail. Are we still recording? Oh yeah, we're two minutes in.
S. distribution. And we're changing her name. Ace Prime is a new name, Luciano Cigars.
The news comes and follows up to last week's announcement that the company's distribution agreement, blah, blah, blah. Let's see, Morales told Cigar House of Podcasts he is currently assembling what he referred to as a dream team of people who will join the company. A dream team. Ranging from a sales team to back office support.
One person already on board is Tiago Splitter. Oh yeah? Have you ever heard of Tiago? He's dream, sounds dreamy.
Tiago? Tiago? Tiago Splitter, who was listed as co-founder. Former UFC fighter, Tiago Silva.
Splitter is a former NBA player. That's how he knew, that's how he knew. I wonder how Phil knew who it was. For the Spurs.
Current assistant coach for the Brooklyn Nets, he's been involved with Ace Prime since its launch in May of 2019. Wait till he gets a taste of sales in the fucking cigar industry. Along with another, oh, and also with Dominique Wilkins, created their names for them in the company's MXS line. That's a big name.
Yeah, and part of the Dream Team, that's why the Dream Team. That's why they're called the Dream Team. Right, 'cause you got all these guys. That makes sense.
I didn't hear Michael Jordan or... Well, let's read on. Who else? Larry Bird.
The factory for producing Ace Prime portfolio cigar is also getting a rebrand, the De Haute Tobacco's SA, which is described as the entity behind the Tabacalera Pichardo factory, when I'll be known as Luciano's Cigar Factory. Oh. He loves naming things after himself. Should it be called I'm So Great Factory?
I mean, what the fuck? Let's see. He told Cigarist's Podcast that he and Splitter own the majority of the facility in Esteli, Nicaragua. He added that Arrado Pichardo will be spending more time on the agriculture side of the operation.
So he's been sent out to the farm. The press release announces a change has also indicated the holding company of Luciano Cigars will continue to hold all trademark and importation rights to the existing products as such, Luciano Cigars. Primary offerings will include all previous lines such as Luciano the Dreamer, Fiat Lux, Maria Lucia, and Pichardo. Save this news article for the Patreon so we can really break this down.
I think that's important. Let's see, it's previously announced, Crown Heads will continue to fulfill orders for Ace Prime products through the end of October, with Luciano Cigari's taking over their distribution on the 1st. You have reached the maximum time permitted for recording your message. Perfect.
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Goodbye. He has no capability of getting any more messages. I hope we maxed them out. That's what you got Hector for not answering the phone, God damn it.
I really missed that show, what was it called? Heckle & Jekyll. Heckle & Jekyll, that's right, it's not on anymore. They just fizzled out.
After Hector went rogue and went out on his own, both shows stopped. Yeah, he did like one. He did two. He did two.
He did two. It was like a "fuck you, Jack". Right. And then it just died.
And then it just died. See, you know, you gotta hold fast. If you're gonna say "fuck you", you gotta go all the way. If you're going to go out on a solo career, you've got to do more than one album.
Not even an album, you can't even do two singles. El Septimo opens first Cigar Lounge, and now it's just plans for 30 more. This is interesting as well. , and it won't be the last, according to an announcement by company president and CEO, Zaya Yunnan.
Alright, how many did you say you're going to do, 30? We announced that we will open 30 retail stores in the United States, three in Deltona alone, in the next three years. I'll just sell you this one. You can sell only L-16.
Oh, they don't have to remodel it. Have you seen the pictures? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, $5 million lighters, big $7 million couches.
He can buy the whole building for $30 million. Ah, nice. Maybe higher, 60. 60?
60 million. 60 million. Put one more in there for me and Palmer. Well, they have to get this too, so we get, if it's getting 60, I want five.
Five million? Right. Wow. For this beautiful studio?
Two studios? Oh, yeah. No, we're just... Two and a half of...
Two and a half of... You would just get the boot. This is the dream team. This is the dream team.
The podcast is the dream team. Podcast is the dream team. Let's see. The first lounge is located in Woodland Hills, California, just northwest of Los Angeles.
Spans 8,000 square feet. How much are we upstairs? Holy shit. 8,000 square?
That's like the entire building. Yeah, pretty much. Oh. Let's see.
What the fuck are you going to do with all that? I want to go, I want to go in, is there a slip and slide? In a press release, the company said that the walk-in humidor can hold up to one million cigars. Interesting.
How did he come up with that number? He's buying every Roman Craft cigar, and he's going to put it in. Oh, well that was my question, is he only going to carry El Septimo, or is he going to carry everybody else's? I don't know, he's proclaiming that it's the largest walk-in humidor in the world.
Yeah, but is it only El Septimo cigars? Uh, the humidor will be stocked with El Septimo cigars. That's it. Including some of the brand's most limited and exclusive products.
In addition, the lounge offers plush furniture and plush amenities, apparently, as well as state-of-the-art air purification and humidification systems. The company said it will soon be opening a wait list for annual membership applications, which will be reviewed quarterly. Elsa Timo also has lounges in Europe and the Middle East. Yonan noted that the company is also looking into developing branded lounges within existing retailers.
Oh, there you go. Cigar Hustler, El Cetimo. Of course. It just rolls right off the tongue.
That's 27 million. Oh. Yeah. That's the price.
Well, nice of you to give him a deal. Yeah. Well, he doesn't really get anything like as far as the building is concerned, so. Oh, that's true.
Yeah. Just branded. Yeah. So just 27.
Oh. I'd give you a million for that. Oh, thank you. Sure.
Nice. What the hell? I'd give him a million too. Oh.
Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. That puts me at 25 and I got split it with the dum-dum upstairs.
Yeah, don't tell him. You just told me you only got two. Why is there else a Timo stuff thing and why have we built a helicopter pad on the building? Don't worry about it, Greg.
Uh, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what's going on, Greg, but fix the roof. The poor accountant would have to explain it to him.
It's like, I don't know, this is a fucking... Right, exactly. See, to offset the price of your wedding, Greg. Yeah, to offset the wedding costs.
3% compared to 2019. Why do they go back so far? Do they only have it once every four years? Oh, because you have no data from 2020, because it was COVID.
Oh, the COVID stuff, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, and then 2021 was still kind of lingering, so the only true data point is 2019. All right, I understand that. You're welcome.
Last week, Inner Tobacco took place in the- I'm not just a pretty face, Michael. In Dormann, Germany, while the trade show remains the largest of its kind, attendance fell somewhat lighter compared to years past. The feeling was now that confirmed as fact by the Trade Fair's organization. 3% decline from Inter-to-Back 2019, the most recent tobacco fair prior to this year's event.
Oh, if I would have kept reading. In 2020 and 2021, Inter-to-Back trade fairs were canceled due to COVID. You pulled the mic, there you go. This year, that not only marked the first Inter-to-Back in three years, but also a new schedule previously, Inter-to-Back took place Friday through Sunday.
This year's show took place Thursday through Saturday. Historically, Sunday was a day when more German retailers attended the trade show, which would partially explain the decline in attendance. That's, yeah, that's just because of Sunday. Well, they actually, it's because the majority of them were fucking here for the PCA.
Oh, the trade, there was a bigger international, so why go to that one? Right. Right. Right.
See, unlike the other main cigar trade show, the PCA convention trade show, the TAA meeting, and the convention, and the TPE, Inner Tobacco is focused on non-US markets and is not known as a trade show where companies expect to take orders from retailers, And retailers said that cigar companies use enter into back to meet with other companies. Oh. Primarily, the- We want to meet you. The international distributors and wholesalers.
You will come and we will meet. Oh, right. And dine. We will talk and we will smoke cigars.
We will get, uh, we will have little bread. Fuck. We will have the oil. You dip the bread in the oil.
Very small teas. Very small. Yeah, little drinks. Little cups.
The overall environment was difficult. The global political situation, faltering supply chains, the COVID pandemic, and visa problems So those enormous challenges for the participants, and for us as organizers said Sabine Los. So we got a lot of shit going on. Are you coming?
Are you still coming? Just wanted to know. We can't ship them to you. We're having atrocious taxation.
Inflation is across the board. Will you be there? No, I have the bread and the little oil. But we will have bread.
Very small tea. I like the small tea. It's the little. Cordoba Morales, Nika Reaper, Debuting this week.
Whoa. Probably. Well, as long as there is on the store. Cordoba Morales is not her, I can't find that.
On September 30th, the Cordoba- I'll let you know on Friday. The Cordoba Morales, Nika Reaper will go on sale during a release party at Cigar Hustler El Septimo in Deltona, Florida. El Septimo. The cigar is a 6x52 Toro with a unique cap and closed foot.
It's made entirely of Lajero tobaccos, which means it should be strong. The company is not disclosing the country of origin. Each cigar is an MSRP of $15 and limited to 500 boxes of 12 cigars. "I've been playing with the idea of making a Lajero cigar for years," said his heirs, Mustafa, owner of Codoba & Ralston.
Press release, the hardest part was finding the right combination of tobaccos to create a powerhouse cigar with complexity. Everybody knows you can make a very bold cigar. The hard part is making something that isn't one-dimensional in flavor with such a high level of strength. Cigars will be offered to other retailers following the release of Cigar Hustler.
Alcetimo. Alcetimo. Alcetimo. So what do you think of that press release?
What I did like is that I got emailed to me twice. I wanted to make sure that you got the coverage. Yeah, Mike and Mike Productions got it twice. It's very important to me.
Very nice. Thank you. Yes. Man exposes himself to women in South Florida.
This is the Florida story. The Florida story. Yeah. Which means we're near the end.
So we have 15 minutes to film. Okay. Man exposes himself to women in South Florida parking lot. Okay.
In Hialeah, a man's been arrested after he exposed himself to multiple women in the parking lot of a South Florida gym. Oh, here we go. 38 year old Michael Szczepović was arrested in Hialeah on Monday. Is that why you were late today for the meeting?
Yeah, yeah. I had to post bond. On multiple counts of indecent exposure after he exposed himself to women in the parking lot of the LA Fitness. Esporto.
Isn't this the same place where the guy beat the dude with the dumbbell two weeks ago? Yeah, yeah. I would stop going to that gym if I were you people. I would stay away from LA Fitness.
It was a horrible gym. A horrible gym. Police were dispatched to the gym. I'd like to be a part of the board meeting.
Like, we gotta pull out of Florida. Is this a fucking problem? Again? Police close the Hialeah store, whatever you do.
For fuck's sake. Police were dispatched to the gym's parking lot after receiving complaints from the staffers and gym members that, Michael Stepankiewicz, was exposing himself and masturbating in the parking lot. According to authorities, uh, rubbing one out in the parking lot, huh, Michael was in the gym's parking lot at different hours of the day and would expose himself to females as they walked to the cars. Hey, check this out.
Hey, look at this. Look at this. Look how big. Poor Phil.
One victim told police, said Michael arched his back and exposed. Oh, you're really getting it out? Oh, there we go. Yeah, he did the full exposure.
Exposed himself before masturbating and following her through the parking lot. Nice. Michael was arrested and booked into jail. Michael was arrested.
I have to ask, is it the same guy? No, no, the actual name is William A-V-I-L-A. Oh. Avila?
Avila? Avila. I thought it was the same guy from last time. It'd be the same dude.
Hector. Come on, I'm bail, I'm running around. Oh, is he calling you? No.
Oh, that's his name. Oh, hell, no, it says Michael Stebbuk. Spelled correctly in my hand, by the way. Wow, yes, yeah.
I don't know, I expect nothing less from you. Right, they're very, very accurate reporting. All right, that's all I got. You got a Shop of the Week?
Oh, who did we give it to? We gave it to Tobacco Plaza last week? Uh, yes. Oh, he's not my friend on Facebook.
I don't know. Danny? I guess fucking Danny's a good guy. Yes.
En fuego mo... En fuego mo... Oh, you know, I also got a happy birthday from Boss Cigars, from Corintho. Oh, Corintho.
We'll make him a Shop of the Week. Perfect. Shop of the Week, Boss Cigars! What?
No. Oh, I'm going to have any listener of the week. Currento. Okay, now we have 48 minutes.
That did take much time. 48 minutes? No, we're at 48 minutes. What else are you going to talk about?
Dude, I could feel 12 minutes fucking standing on my head. 12 minutes. How was that cigar? You almost finished.
I don't want to give it away. Oh yeah, don't do it. People pay for that. But I am moving right along.
Yes. Yeah, and I will tell you, without giving it away, it's not bad. It's not bad, huh? It's not bad.
That's what everybody likes to hear about their cigars. It's not too bad. Raving review. It's good.
I like it. Here's the number one retailer, fucking. I really like you, and I like your cigars. I just have no room for your cigars in my human life.
Right, right. That's why I'm like, oh, what? You have no room? You're at capacity?
Yes, there's no room. I'm very sorry. Oh my goodness. I am filled with little cups of tea.
With the tea. And the bread. We have, you come and we have bread and tea and I will tell you how full. See that's one callback, that's appropriate, you know, with the multiple things.
With the multiple Kevin Hart callbacks. Right, all over the place. Gets old after a while. Right.
Boots is very upset about this. He does. Listen, I do want to touch on one thing about the NFL. Go right ahead.
Since you mentioned Boots. I'll make sure, I'll make sure Phil's microphone is on. The fuckin' Buffalo Bills and our dear friends of Down 2 Herf talked a lot of shit about the Miami Dolphins. Say more, say more.
And they fuckin' said that they don't, Tua doesn't stand a chance, they, I watched them heckle my boy when he fuckin' picked up Tua of the Fantasy Football, and we were doing that at Weasel Fest. Right. And I said, "Dude, take Tua. You need a second quarterback?
" Take Tua over what? I'll tell you right now, I would love to have Tua on my fuckin', I'd want him over fuckin' Russell Wilson, Who's done absolute dog shit the past three weeks. Right. I mean, I want, I want to go fly to Denver and tell him to get his shit together.
Like, you're embarrassing my league, my whole team. So the fuck it, dude. You can just address that, that's fine. No, I want to talk to you.
I got to tell you about this. Okay, good. So the fucking, so, so the Dolphins, so the Dolphins take the lead, right? Right.
And they got to punt the ball. Right. And they're at, and they're in the end zone. Oh, is this the butt thing?
Yes. Okay. So, okay, cool. That's it.
Have a good night. See if that's what you were talking about. So he punts the fucking ball. Is this I am familiar with?
He punts the ball and he pelts his own guy in the ass. Right. And it winds up being a safety, right? Safety, yeah.
Safety. Fucking amazing. So now they get two points and then they gotta go down the field. But do they have to go down the field for just a, now they just need a field goal.
Oh, they had to get a field goal. They need to get a field goal. And they fucked it up. And they fucked it up.
They couldn't get the field goal? No, they couldn't go down the field. He got sacked? No, no, no, no.
They went down the field, completed a pass at the end to put them in position, with 8 seconds left, couldn't get to the ball to snap it for the clock. And then Ken Dorsey throws a temper tantrum up in the fucking... Oh, I saw that, he showed me the footage. And all the Bills fans in Buffalo.
They all did the same thing he did. No, normally what I see, usually when I catch footage of Bills Mafia losing their shit, the TV winds up outside. Oh, no tables, just TVs. However, I will say this, normally when it's outside, it's snowing, and it's a little later into the season.
This is only week three, so... Yeah, there's a lot of broken TV. I'm sure that there, yeah. Yeah, there probably is some broken TV.
Maybe phones, too. Maybe that's why they haven't messaged me. But what was great for me is I heard him talking so much shit about the last game, they blew Tennessee out of the water. " all the way to the end?
My goodness. And look, I like Josh Allen. I like watching the Bills. But at the end of the day, I'm a Patriots fan.
So there's that. So I'd like to see a little fucking controversy as far as a mess of AFC East. So, I mean, I'm jumping on the fucking Miami bandwagon right now. Yeah.
Let's go. No, they're 3-0. They are 3-0. They are 3-0.
And it was fun to see them beat the fucking Bills. I'm looking forward to seeing it in Buffalo. Yeah, it's going to be a good game. When is that game?
End of the season? End of the season. Yeah, that's going to be a good, that's going to be a good one. Oh boy.
And it's going to be cold. Yeah, the Bucks really fucking, they upset me, they hurt my feelings this weekend, but whatever. I think they hurt a lot of people's feelings. Oh, so they lost.
They should have made that, yeah, well they had to get a two-point conversion, they had it, they had it. And they just, the clock ran out, they got to lay a game. Aww. Very upsetting.
I'm very sorry. Very upsetting. Very sorry. You should be.
All right, that's close enough. We're at 52. I said you couldn't do any more minutes. What else?
All right. Go ahead. Palmer, what was the most favorite part of your birthday? Oh!
We did have an event here at Cigar Hustler on Friday. Oh, yes, we did. Yeah. Yeah.
What did you think of that? You were a little weird. It's been a weird year for me. Yeah.
There was no countdown this month. No, I wasn't feeling it at all. You weren't really excited. No, it's been a tough year.
As friends, we're worried about you. Oh, I'm going to throw it. It's going to be okay, next year will be better. You think so?
Dad died in January and I'm happy to take care of mom and so it's just been a tough year. I can understand that. I can understand that. But when you're around, there have been little pops of Palmer of old.
We're seeing him, but he wasn't there on Friday. No, it's just been a tough year. He's trying to come out. He wants to play.
Yeah, yeah. He wants to play with us. Right, but it's just been a tough year. You were kind of in a funk.
It's been a funk year. Is it because no 80 King Palmer had to? No, well, that too, but she couldn't help that. She had to work that night.
Yeah. What can we do for you? Yeah, how can we help you? Nothing.
It'll be a better year next year. Are you sure? Yeah. I mean, I'll let you out.
You didn't have to spend $5,000 on my birthday gift. You know, we walked that back. Right. That's a plus.
Right. But, you know, yours was more than mine, so. Yeah, I won. No, no, no, no.
The present I got you this year. Oh. It was more than the… Oh, you won, sure. Right, I won this year.
Okay. Listen, I'll do… Oh, I didn't bring it up, you did. Whatever I have to say to make you happy. I mean, I suck, you know.
I'm sorry that my… No, it's all about the… It's just we get each other nice gifts. I mean, technically, Cigar Houser did give you a locker and the new private lounge. Well, Greg says I'm not getting a locker. You're not getting a locker?
I think we need to clear this up right now. I think he should get a locker. You want a locker? Well, I've already taken one.
Oh, have you? I've had cigars in it for three months now, but when people started claiming their lockers as members are joining, I did put tape on it and wrote my name on it until I get the nameplate. I mean, he is the owner. I mean, someone gave him a birthday card.
Well, the day after Greg said I wasn't getting one, he had Keanu call me because somebody couldn't get the TV to work. No, no, I'm not allowed down there. Well, I immediately called. I mean, I fixed the problem over the phone.
The TV came on for the member. I forget who it was. I forget who it was, but then I called Greg, go look, if you're gonna have employees call me, and I have to fix things in a lounge, I'm getting a locker. And what do you say to that?
I hung up on him, I didn't give him a chance though. Make him want more, make him want more. I like that he needed some type of piece of paper from you or something, and you leveraged it. You're like, I will take...
Well, I started with a filter for the... Yeah, we tried. Yeah, and you settled for ten bucks. Ten dollars.
He got me down to ten dollars. Done! I was tired of arguing with him at that point. Yeah, somebody needed the fire rating for the things that I got from the factory.
Right. It took us a year to figure that out, but Palmer came through. But that's not going to help them anyways, because it's in Chinese. No, no, it's in English.
Yeah, but like it's not our code or whatever. No, but it says how long it takes for them to burn and that they're not flammable and all that kind of stuff. They just don't provide that with the product. You think that they would?
Well, it's not required. They're decorative. Yeah. Right.
So why spend the money to print that up to put it in every single box? Oh. It's true. The fire department wants to know.
Yeah, for some reason. They're gonna know. I guess we had wallpaper up. We'd have to tell them what the wallpaper is.
This is wallpaper. Okay, so clarification. He has a locker. Secondly, there was no clarification on what the most favorite part of your birthday was.
Yeah. Oh, Adrian did a good job in taking me to the places that I like. I mean, I didn't give her any hints or anything. I knew that.
She still won. I talked to him over the weekend. Oh yeah, we chit-chatted during the, during our joint birthday. Oh, very nice.
On Saturday? Yeah. Was I the first person to text you? No.
Actually, you guys came in at the same time. Really? I fucking, you cocksucker. Were you guys sitting next to each other or something?
Hector Alfonso Sr. Hector Alfonso Sr. Hector Alfonso Sr. Late entry.
Hector. Should we take this? How close are we? Yeah, no, no, put it on.
Five minutes. He's got five minutes. You son of a bitch. Three minutes.
Hold on Hector Yes You're on the podcast how are you sir Off the podcast how are you We have five minutes I have multiple questions Multiple questions for you Number one The 10 year Will I be receiving this first allocation Of some of the 200 boxes Or no Yes, you will. Yes! Oh, there you go. All right.
We're good. I wasn't up until this phone call, by the way. Yeah, probably. Or he'd just be nice on a phone call.
You know, you've got to do it the right way. You've got to know who to go for some stuff and who to go for the other stuff. Yes. So yeah, you guys are good.
Perfect. Spooky. Okay, so the Heckle & Jekyll Show is no more. No, it's not that it's no more.
We're waiting for the next pandemic. We're just kind of on hiatus. Oh, okay. So it was a pandemic podcast?
Actually, if the hurricane would've hit, we would've done a podcast. We're only here, we're in case of emergency break glass. That's the kind of stuff. Because you cut, you went rogue, you went out on your own, and it was just the Jekyll Show.
No, it was only, it was Heckel, I'm Heckel. Oh, it was just the Heckel, get it straight, Mike, very sorry. He's obviously Heckel. Yeah, it was obviously just to show Jack that I didn't need to be in his shadow, you know what I'm saying?
'Cause he cast a big shadow. Yeah, he very called me. But you gave up after two? It is a very common.
Well, you know, it's like Wolverine breaking from the X-Men. Just for a minute, then I'm back. Oh, okay. All right, so I think I want to see a Heckle & Jekyll show come back.
Yeah. A revival of those shows. You should have us both on. You should have us both on.
You can do like Heckle & Jekyll, Big Dick Mike, I'm sorry, Big Dick Ballmer. Big Dick Mike works there, doesn't he? The dream team of podcasts. What do you want me to call in?
Yeah, you know what, that's the only dream team I think I'll be a part of. Not the Ace Prime Dream Team? In the Tunnel? I've never heard of them.
Oh, Dominique Wilkins, and who else have we got here? Tiago Splitter. Tiago Splitter? That's the last time I saw Tiago Splitter and LeBron James was dunking on him in the arena.
That's the last time I saw Tiago Splitter. That's why he's giving him cigar sales. So now he's selling cigars. You know, I saw this call from you, and I had quite the amount of prepotations.
And then I said, well, let me wait a few minutes. They're probably off the air now. So much for my bad, my good timing. Nope.
Anything else you want to put me on the spot? I'm here for you. Oh, the knuckle sandwich. When is that coming out?
The yellow one? When we're talking about the yellow one? Yeah, when's the knuckle sandwich coming out? The yellow one?
Yeah, you'll get those. You'll be in the first allocation. After the lounge has got them, and a couple of guys who had events where a guy was going to be there, You know, you guys are, you may not be number one in the ratings, but you're number one in our hearts. Aw, that's all that matters.
That's all that matters. That's all that matters. Alright, when do we get a Guy Fieri, uh... Yeah, when do we get Guy Fieri to make us a sandwich?
I mean, when the fuck does that happen? Yeah, can we have him come in and make sandwiches? Because, I mean, I love Guy Fieri, he's a super nice guy, but I just, I mean, I gotta eat. Listen, bro, what do you want me to tell you?
Alright, guys, a pleasure. Going in a tunnel, losing the signal. Quick, I can't find him first. Well, Hector, thank you.
Hey, hey, how about them Dolphins? How about them Dolphins? Yes. Listen, it was a great victory.
I mean, you know, I thought you guys were gonna come back. I thought Mike's guys were gonna come back and tie the game up yesterday. Bad clock management on the buck part, bad clock management for the bill. Yep.
Listen, they're gonna pay us back in December when it's 15 degrees of Buffalo. It's very true. So, you know. Absolutely.
All right. That said, I will let you go, sir. Thank you for calling me back. Thank you, Hector.
Uh-oh, what happened? We lost him. I was telling you he was in a tunnel the whole time anyway. You know, it happens.
Where's there a tunnel in Florida? In Miami? I don't know. I believe it's called the pool.
Are you done now? We're all done. Are we at the Adelaide? We've had Matt Booth call in.
We've had Hector Alfonso. This has been an exciting show. Message from Fred Rui down there. We've had several offers from El Septimo.
Right, several offers from El Centimo, the Cigar House of El Centimo Lounge, there's a fire burning in the Dominican Republic, and we're building a dream team. Right, and the hurricane's coming, there's been a full episode, I don't know, what else do you people want? I started reading Leon Cerce's book. Oh, did you?
Yeah. Oh, and you're enjoying it? Yeah. Oh, good.
It's pretty good. Actually, what's really kind of funny is, like, the opening first couple stories, he already told me. We were fucking hanging out, he told me those stories. Like, wait a second, I got the better version.
I didn't get the book version, I got the fucking... It starts out with, the thing I miss the most about football... Is the money! Is the money.
No, it actually opens up where he fucking flat broke. Oh, well, then it wouldn't be the money. Yeah. It makes sense.
It makes sense. The fucking money. The money. Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Alright. Alright. I believe that puts us at an hour. Thank you.
Oh, we're over now. Boom. We are in Pedro time. Episode 247.
Pedro time. That was a car. Bye, we gotta go. Yes.
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