Cigar Hustlers Podcast 271 World Exclusive

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Welcome to the cigar Hustlers

podcast episode 271 with your

host.

Michael the king step on

cabbage, and his producer might

be DP Palmer.

And me, I'm Philly cameraman.

I'm only posting on social media

so everyone else can feel better

about themselves.

You're welcome.

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what you put more stuff on it

over the weekend.

No, it's capped out.

I mean, I love the way that it's

built.

It's got all my goodies and

Christmas stuff is out of the

way.

I didn't think I'd like as much

as I liked it.

I fucking love this.

No, I'm not gonna lie.

It looks nice park, your car you

guys on it.

You guys were at the house.

Yeah, we finally get to kind of

experience it.

Yeah, you had no issues.

That's why you left.

Oh, you shut it off in the dark.

Only one in that way.

Well, he went in that way and

then he broke the No shoe rule,

Phil, he broke the new showroom

so with no, wasn't there.

It was he broke the no shoe

rule, so that made me angry.

But then I saw this thing.

Yeah.

But did you see?

There's a thing.

There's a machine.

Yeah.

Do you put your foot while

there's two?

There's two.

There's like standard one, where

you just press, and it puts a

little booties on.

Yeah, I've seen that and they're

like 50 bucks and there's a

really nice one.

You gonna give that I might I

might want to just get the kind

with the booties really just pop

them on.

That's what it is.

I know, but where they don't to

step into, it'll be a lot less

expensive, it's videos, but

that's 50 bucks.

I want I wanted to be as

convenient as possible for my.

How do you peel them off?

You just take them off.

So, but there are some another

one.

Yeah, which is amazing.

Right.

I'm stealing.

Wait.

Hold on, I'm sorry.

Hold on.

You put your foot in, right.

And like this almost cellophane

wrap.

Goes around it and then it sucks

on to it.

Seems I might be a little harder

to get off.

It might be a little hard to get

off but it's 1,500 bucks so I

ain't getting that.

Wow yeah, get that one.

That's the one you need.

So if you wanted to up me on

Christmas, you know, I mean

that's kind of where we're at.

We don't up on Chris and we've

gone, we've gone down.

Oh yeah.

Chris as we know, the birthdays

birthdays.

Will July's coming for a while?

I'm not getting you a 15 dollar

foot rabbit, you feel?

Like it's that's where we as we

need to be.

No, no, I think that we've

agreed to walk this back down

anyway.

I think we have yes, yes, it was

getting ridiculous.

I mean, if you bought me, the

foot wrap it would officially be

ridiculous.

Oh yeah well you know get the

photo.

Let's like make monthly

payments.

It said $85 a month.

Oh yeah.

Oh there we go.

Easy peasy.

Sure.

I would yeah.

Well, that car that Adrienne was

because agent wanted to get it.

She went to Chiefs really want

to Jeep, but she does want to

drive the Jeep, because he's

written in a Jeep and they're

not good for every day for her.

So she wants you to get the

Jeep, right?

So that she can have it on the

weekend so that you can

occasionally Drive in the Jeep.

Well, I can drive in the Jeep

Monday with her Friday.

Yeah.

Saturdays and Sundays, we can

take all the pieces off because

it's so easy.

Just to take all the pieces off,

and drive it around one of

these, broad chest tube.

That's the one we wrote in when

she went like Andres cool.

Yeah.

So just ask her him.

What's he doing with it on the

weekend?

Rent it out of 50 bucks or

something?

He was renting the other one,

but he sold it.

The white one?

No, the white ones one.

The, the great when he used to

have the great ones gone, the

great ones gone.

Okay.

I know that he was trying to

sell me just as the white one,

but that's their only car.

So they bring over the little

roller skate brother.

That's perfect, perfect.

So we all got to well not fail,

but boots got to partake in the

same era, Mac, should we start

with the Jack?

And ha, there's going to be a

special Jack and ha World

exclusive story at the end of

the show.

That's why you are the producer

of the show.

Yes, yes.

Yeah.

That's why, you know, so after

all of this success nonsense,

there is something you wanted to

hear some good industry details,

exclusive.

You will only hear it.

Here it will never be mentioned

again.

Anywhere else that's actually

Some some of Jack's emojis

Jackson's kitchen.

Maybe in a court of law.

He's the only, he's a very

perplexing man.

Sometimes yes, I should see the

clip.

The clip is amazing, is it?

Oh yes I will, I must see this

clip.

Okay, well here I'll play right

now.

Perfect.

Now it's on my laptop.

Well sometimes because like I

feel like as time goes by it

kind of softens, you know.

Yeah yeah and then Hector said,

Hector said some great stories

and I'm going to talk to the

retailer about them and I'm

going to try and get the retail

on the phone because those

stories These are fucking

amazing.

I don't remember what ha say.

I don't know if you around them

at the time.

I know.

But they were fantastic.

So, where did he tell these were

sitting at the table?

I'm like, why aren't we talking

about this shit on the podcast

anyway?

Stable, no, he opened up a lot

of he went nuts upstairs.

Yeah, it's fucking hilarious.

Yes, he's a very funny man.

Yeah, I love those guys.

Are very nice.

It should have been invited to.

The wedding should have been.

You ha was a yeah yeah.

Hector was just not Jack.

Yeah.

Right.

I think we have a double.

Are you doing a double patreon

this week?

We are going to do a double

patreon this or do you want me

to make it just one longer one?

No, I'll do to tell you can

release after the show.

When you release a show, then

you can release the patreon, the

next first one tomorrow.

Yeah.

Okay.

And then we'll do a work a

regular one on Thursday.

Yeah, we're going to review the

Don doroteo, very okay.

I don't want to say anything.

Yeah, don't say.

So the he is in Garrett is in

the American public right now.

He just did a Facebook live

where he's walking the crop.

Yeah, he done.

Dörtos is walking the crops.

Yeah, what's he doing in there?

What's he doing in the crops

wearing a funny hat?

Do you think they'll put him to

work like a very white Indiana

Jones?

Oh, he's wearing a white shirt.

So we did the standard.

He has.

He has the straw Fedora, you

know, I've never done these

standard.

Me standing in the field on the

field, you've never done that.

I've never done that.

How can your armors done it?

I've done it.

I've never done the Jet and I

did it for the me me.

This is me.

This is me looking at this

debacle.

I've stood in the field.

Where was it in a row?

Did you do the the Gladiator?

You should do the Gladiator

walking with the, you know, the

top of your hands hitting the

talking to grab the sand before

I'm going into battle and just

kind of A lot is.

Yeah.

That's what he that's where you

should start to photo.

Yeah.

Down on one.

Knee down on one knee.

Pick up the sand with like the

smell it?

Yeah.

Oh yeah, this is good.

This is good.

See, I guess very good.

I can taste the pH look and test

the ph and you wrote in your

hand.

Oh yeah.

And stand up and walk.

Can we do like fade-in fade-out

type shit?

Oh yeah, he's gone.

Don't throw Mantic music.

I don't know.

What do you say?

Keep going.

It was great.

You had a close up at

everything.

He deserve it.

Yeah.

Just as long as he's staring at

the screen.

That's fine.

That's all that matters.

Oh, we need to talk to Phil.

Little bit about his friend.

Speaking of screen time, we wipe

down the lenses today.

Yes, yes, it looks like it.

Downstream on the jack and ha

portion of the show.

There are several times when the

person talking fell is not the

person on the camera.

So I was so intrigued.

Yeah, we lost it.

But you need to watch the screen

not to show.

This sort of thing is going to

start to reflect live, reflect

your pain.

Just want you to know.

I think people are going to love

it and that, well, no, because

Jack is telling a very important

part of the story and we see

Michael Chase.

Yeah.

Well, he wanted more screen

time.

What do you want me to what he

tells you?

Why?

I doors I'm not allowed to tell

you.

I'll Phil's blaming.

You just put them in the Next

Room.

Fuck it.

We go.

He's no longer chords.

Yeah we do.

And we just drill a fucking

wall.

Drill a hole in that wall and

make him sit over there.

Sit at the other table.

Yeah we could do that.

I think that'd be great.

We could Are you shaking your

head?

No, you guys would never know if

I'm there either.

Oh, we just want you to do.

You know what we're friends?

So I'm going to trust you.

Phil, I'm just going to take, we

can set up the we can set up the

Monitor and yeah, we can make

sure you're out there.

We can attach the ring to the

app and we could stare you.

Oh yeah.

I can put the ring up on the

phone.

Yeah.

Well technically, I am in the

other room.

He's in the control room but he

can see through the window.

Is that what it is?

Yes, you know.

So we need to close the window.

We need to cover the window with

him into a paper or something.

I'm further away but I think

that's great.

So how was your guys weekend?

It was good.

Right?

We do enjoy a lovely.

Well, we had the event Friday

night.

Oh yeah.

How was that bomber?

It was okay, it was a nice

event.

My wife got a little upset.

Why?

I don't know any we shouldn't

talk about any?

No, let's talk about it.

Okay.

Somebody's wife was going around

planning a beach Day on Sunday.

It did not say anything to my

wife not include her, but like

people sitting closer than me

and you now she would invite you

and not Her.

If I was her kind of hurt

feelings.

You know, here's what I can tell

you, right?

Fuck those people, man, we don't

need to be around them.

We don't, I know, but she was

but it was, it was a chat to,

I've got invited Tia, got

invited a couple, other people

got invited but not her and then

afterward.

She was like what how the

Saturday conversation makes

sense that I had with your wife?

Oh well yeah.

But did you happen to be Afraid

that she want to be invited lat.

She said that she's she's

closer, she's not that she's not

friends with that.

That some other people are very

close.

Oh yes, yes, yes.

Another recent.

Yeah very kill.

It was very nice of you do.

When your wife went out to

dance, you said hey take 80 King

Narmer that was nice of you

because I want everybody have a

good time, right?

No.

I understand everything but I

think that meant more to her

because of what happened the

night before.

Oh, great.

And don't even know that it

happened, right?

Because he's my friend had no

right, you know, And I know that

you turned into like this stick

in the mud.

So we had a we were at the

auction for my school, digging a

budget subdued, you get tired.

No no.

This this happens all the time.

I don't know what the you get

into like secured.

I mean I just need to get a

little coil thing with out of

your ear and you just kind of

stand there like this Frozen

fucking.

You don't want to do anything.

Like you just answer neither am

I?

But who gives a fuck.

Just not a mint.

So what so I did want to go

dance, you can just stand there.

You can do the 50 Cent thing

like I do.

I do like that.

Very minimal motion.

I don't want to injure myself,

you know what I mean?

That's it.

That's all you gotta do.

Alright?

Once you know, we gotta loosen

up a little bit.

I had a good time, those are

lovely event, you know, I'm not

gonna lie, it the best part was

nobody bought our thing II, you

sure about that.

There was no bids on it, there

was never a bit said current bid

on it, but that was the opening

bid.

Yeah.

But then I think that somebody

might have purchased it at the

current bed.

Oh well, we need a notification

or something.

I would imagine you.

Let them contact us.

Don't worry about that.

I know what?

Them did not the podcast did not

okay, because it would come up

on the list.

Okay.

Now, the other one did and, you

know, I'm honestly hoping that

somebody purchased the dj1, I am

too because that really opens

the door.

What was your get us out?

Yeah, the podcast thing.

Okay, fine.

You know, I am going to say

this, and we did say this first

of all, but let me back up the

table, having you guys there.

Yeah, you boots and Eric and

like, your wives.

Like, I like an amazing.

Like, that was a nice guy, he

really is, he's a A good dude.

And man, it was so awesome to

have like to have a whole table

of my own people, right?

Like, you know, I don't know, it

was really cool for me, so I

really appreciate you guys

coming out.

I had a awesome time with you

guys and I can just be open and

honest like, I don't know.

I mean, I think you get that but

I'm very, I'm very open and

honest with my friends, right?

And everybody else.

I'm just kind of bullshit about

them.

You know what I mean, right?

If I got to be like, hey, I'm

like right with the other

people.

I saw some of that.

Yeah.

So what will my people?

I keep it, I keep it 100, my

people.

So I had a great time, the DJ

sucked, the deed, I wouldn't

eat.

I wouldn't know if the DJ sucked

until I have seen Chet do his

thing.

I got you.

Yeah the guy he's not very

interactive at all.

Yeah, I have seen Chet mix

music.

I have seen Chet and with a

whoop.

Yeah, I've said hit the button

to make it.

Did you I have seen Chet speak

on the mic, right?

You know what I mean?

Where I want to.

Engage with this guy.

Where is this guy?

I mean there were mistakes on

the script about a 50-50 raffle

that didn't exist.

Oh yeah, he said something

about, he said, in more than

once, right?

Not only did he said more than

once, but he said, well, this is

what it says, on my screen like.

Okay, dude, right, you know,

he's dead, don't say it then,

right.

If someone says, hold on first

time, okay, maybe the first

time.

Yeah.

Then they correct.

You.

And you're like, that's the

rules of the road.

If someone says hey, you know

something, hey, we're not doing

that, right?

That's it.

You just my bad, never mind.

That's, that's not going on.

Right, not well after stating a

green, right?

You know, but Eric made a great

analogy of the, the Dave

Chappelle Show, where it's the

player haters club, right?

Oh everybody.

They all, they're all talking

shit and stuff.

He's like, this is you guys

right now and I watch, I went

back and watched the clip, so

that I was in, you know?

So I've watched it a hundred

years ago but I watched it

again.

I'm like, hell, yeah.

I was totally.

Yes, I remember.

But I'd have to go back and

watch it too.

I had a great, it was a great

time.

It was a good day.

The food was really good, you

know, and we invited Jack, but

he didn't show up right.

Well, He's in a lovely gift.

Yeah, I'm sure he did.

So it's a nice but I hope he did

from home.

He didn't, he probably bought

the DJ, then very great.

For the Zona pellucida for the

Zona.

Oh, I agree with that beat at

J'adore.

Zona pellucida and dream.

Got to bring them down there.

I will see if we go this year.

If we get invited.

Yeah, but other than that, what

happened?

I mean Sunday was kind of a

recovery day for us.

I worked in the yard all day

Saturday and it's also Sunday.

I took the bar down Sunday.

Yeah, what happened with that?

People are terribly upset.

Yeah, the Bahraini called talk

to me concerned.

Like what happened?

Oh, well, we don't use it

because we screened in the porch

this last year so we don't go to

it.

So it's sort of just sitting out

there.

This is melting away.

It's just my well.

I know it took me six hours.

Take that thing down.

And then taking it down.

I'm like, holy crap, honey, I

don't this pretty good.

You just need some gas in the

lighter.

Well, so we took the front of

the box at the front of the bar.

That's Showbiz baby.

I took the little section on the

side is all gone, that's gone.

And it now is a small seating

area because she decided not to

take the deck in the front, and

the deck on the side away, as it

with, you're not gonna take

those away kind of something in

the bag.

She'll do well, maybe you just

extend it and building a wall,

then I got to build another

deck.

No, I'm not building another

day, right?

So we just pulled all the The

sides and walls and downgraded

the roofs.

And now it's a got a chair and a

coffee table and patio

furniture.

So I can sit with her in the

shade.

Is there anyone?

She is tanning took forever.

Oh by the way, Phil if you could

get boots, I need six foot pilot

and another pallet picked up

from my house.

No bra.

All right.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

I like him staring at the screen

now.

Yes, I came up here to throw

some of it into one of his dump

trailers and the bikers had a

thing going on Saturday or

Sunday here.

So I just did a lap got going.

I couldn't unload, they were

everywhere.

Didn't you know it's bike week,

right?

Yeah.

That's what I figured.

There's bike.

We're lucky.

They didn't have something

Friday night.

That would have been asked.

Yeah.

I think that Phil we're going to

get into some light news here

before we let the Jacks Are ano

show go.

Um no but we've got some stuff

coming up for us, right?

Do we are going to, we're going

down to the great smoke.

We are going great, some next

Saturday.

Yes, that's next.

That is next next Saturday.

Next Friday night.

Well, a week from this coming

Saturday.

Yeah.

Wow.

This game 0 and then we have the

private event with Room 101 and

that booth and Justin Andrews of

diesel cigars And apparently

there's other people think

Justin and his kind of slithered

his way into it.

He did.

Yeah, you know, we should not

let him ride in the car with he

doesn't answer the phone when we

call she wouldn't.

Do you want to call him right

now?

Because he hears what he says he

says on Mondays from 2:30 to

4:00.

There's I mean there's some

product meeting they have.

I think that was an excuse well

no because he was surprised.

He had never invented that

Bhutan never invited Matt boot

the be in the meeting but you

realize, what's the problem?

We should just call the Room 101

over.

Like, I don't understand the

fucking, the meeting an

hour-long meeting every fucking

week about that.

Like, I don't get it, maybe had

a lot of new stuff coming out.

Well, they did really something

new almost every week last year,

but still, and when he got think

we got the the video game cigar

today.

Yeah.

The fools Fool's errand scan,

like prize, a scan, the QR code,

and win a prize, or something.

It's called Justin right now,

the way speakerphone and him

should be connected to me.

Justin Case.

I mean he's gonna do it again

here.

You think you wouldn't Yo, yo,

hey.

Oh my goodness.

Tanana.

We thought you'd want to plug

your Venture having here Legacy.

The legend of diesel cigars is

five after 75 years, he has

answered the phone on a Monday.

Wow, guys.

Got very lucky.

Our meeting got moved up one

hour earlier today, so that

every week they did you move it

every week so we could call you.

He said it, it looks like not

looks like it's going back to

regularly.

Scheduled time next week.

How are we supposed to climb?

Just listen, I gotta, I gotta

know.

It's so how long is the

meetings?

An hour long We try to keep it

at an hour.

Usually it's around an hour

fifteen or Twenty.

How much of it do you think is

just dead space like

insignificant with this is not

what the meeting is for type

shit?

I mean, honest, we aren't 100%

honest.

We do have communities like that

but this is not one of those

beatniks.

This meeting has got every

important person from all of our

factories and we discuss all of

our new products for this one

actually is pretty.

Pretty important except map of

which is why I never answer the

phone.

Someone who's so created and so,

you know, just just passed his

genius in this product

development stuff.

He does, we can't bother him

down with, like, meetings, like

this, where we talk about.

So, wait.

So the meeting was the meeting

about new products and product

development.

You don't want to have the guy

that's the best in product

development at the creative

meeting.

So, you know, Molly differently.

What are you running for Senator

wicker?

Type of a response.

Sir, what are you?

My goodness don't want to do

that to me.

Price is draw the problem, money

pricing and how much packaging

car stuff, man.

Doesn't even deal with.

Oh yeah Logistics.

Okay, so we didn't care about

that.

So you're coming down March

17th.

Right.

I am yeah, write that down.

So I already have my flight

crime, I'm booked and ready.

We're gonna do a nice little

private event downstairs the

private Lounge for you and Matt

and Matthew and, you know, we're

I think we're going to have a

good time.

We're gonna enjoy ourselves.

It's going to be a little more

intimate.

You can bring your pants if you

want to, but it's not a

necessity.

We're having a meeting next

Monday about this time again.

We'd like to be part of.

Yeah, we like, yeah, we're gonna

get the Sales are things working

like to work it out, it's gonna

be a zoom, it's gonna be about

an hour 15 an hour fifteen,

maybe an hour twenty on the

outside.

When was the last time?

When was the last time I was

down there was before the

pandemic, right?

Well, as I said three years ago,

2000 is probably 2,000.

Yeah, you don't get out much.

Well, you know seeing you guys

once every five years is about

this, about my present is that

what you can handle?

I will find you.

That's what is your jack was

here?

Maybe.

Yeah.

Came up to visit him but jacket

already fueled the growth track

area tray.

He had already shooting, right?

Yeah, he still holds that over

my head though that he drove

you.

Taking up a cloud in the church.

Whatever Lando two hours for

Miami.

That's like almost four hours

before Jesus Christ that's even

worse than, yes.

But he, he, he doesn't have been

in Charlotte, which is like 4

hours for me.

And he's like, oh no, I

completely understand.

It's not like I drove all the

way to, you know, Orlando to

come to one of your events over

the house.

Yeah.

So, yeah.

So Jack did show up to support

me but he is, he's held that

over my head for some time now.

He's really good at the guilt.

I'm not gonna lie, he's a

professional guilt artist.

Is he Jewish?

Well, what does that have to do

with it?

Oh my God.

You got to slide in a racist.

Comment, go ahead.

Go ahead.

Jack is an emotional lesbian

trapped inside.

Six would five heterosexual

Cuban?

I agree with that 100%.

Absolutely.

If you can't ever by Espinosa

can you fire him on the air for

us?

Yeah, if you have St.

G consumes us know.

So I expect you asked to be let

go and I want to done on the

bottom.

Yeah.

Oh my God.

I think we'd have to be factored

but I don't know.

Factored want to stay ha ha the

could probably like you wanted

to get time for me to retire

from my second career now rather

than work with you guys.

So I don't know.

So true.

All right.

Well, we will let you go,

brother.

I'm looking forward to seeing

you guys, though.

I'm, I'm looking forward to

seeing you as well.

We just saw my sweet but I miss

him still.

I miss you miss.

You know what?

He was.

So busy a teepee he was very

busy.

I mean we were standing right in

front with call me then answer.

Good answer for ya.

I mean I'll fuck your fucking

booth called

Nothing.

Okay.

You guys are in the same thing

for me to answer your calls.

That's how we find out who

they're going to buy next

whoever's, phone call, he takes.

All right, whoever he's like,

hey, how you doing, man?

I think he's been 20 minutes

with Justin and see who he's all

about, then we'll know who's on

the radar, that's it.

All right, brother.

All right, well, someone's got

to get back to work.

Up.

Let me tell y'all this really

exciting title of this meeting

Grandma part of now it is a

process analysis for

opportunities and lead time

optimization.

So what does that have loved

their?

That sounds like it'd just be

anything.

Can you send me the link?

I'd like to get in on this

somebody's.

Got a good job.

I've said too much already.

See you soon.

In a moment of weakness right

there, answer the call.

I was that meeting.

Optimization and opportunity

lead analysis.

What is that?

Even, I don't know.

It sounds good.

Somebody somebody graduated

college.

Somebody was using their their

dictionary and it into the cigar

industry.

Here's what we're gonna do.

I need five extensive words.

That's going to do some five new

buzzwords for the industry.

So don't do you have a thing

though?

Because we're Pastor 16 minutes

of bills in sight.

Yeah, you do.

When did I have one day you

still don't?

Phil's facts?

At 8:26 will move to 26.

Can we move the 16?

You just come here and come out

earlier?

26 minutes. 26 minutes.

Anything with the six in it'll

work.

Oh he's Googling.

He's Googling.

I have the page doesn't have

one.

He has a pole, you have your own

page and those facts.com.

I wish I had been.

That's a big guy.

Should be a thing that should be

good.

All right.

Ready?

What you gonna do it?

You got to turn your camera on.

Yeah.

So you gotta get your mask back

on that.

And I paid a lot of money for

that light up.

It's on clearance.

Can't really see in this.

That's fine.

I cut eye holes, it didn't it

didn't have Uncle still on your

camera.

There you go.

Hello peoples and all my

peoples.

All right, so I'm gonna have to

put this up here because these

lot of fur on the guys could

have it printed out by now, but

that's okay.

Oh, all right.

So this one is not as fun as the

other ones, okay?

Okay, all right.

The word cigar is the English

translation of the word.

Don't look at us, look at the

camera.

I don't know.

I want to see you guys will get

this.

Don't look out.

The window is the is The word.

What either one.

Anybody know?

No.

God, please go ahead cigar.

Oh.

Oh.

So down at Spanos.

What a disappointment is.

Why can't you guys get that?

Listen, I gotta get back to my

process analysis for

opportunities and lead time.

Optimization fucking meeting.

So we better.

Hurry this up better.

Hurry up.

We have meetings, I control the

cameras, which I feel like I'm

looking at my camera.

I didn't look at my camera for

looks like I might be my head.

Might be getting cut off.

So, no, you're good.

Okay.

When Paul, when it's on Palmer,

thus your cigars in his face.

Oh perfect.

Oh that's nice.

Oh good.

All right, we ready?

Yeah, let's hit some news real

quick.

So we can wrap this up because

this is already going to be a

long one major.

I mean, we have some big stuff.

Big, long story, the good stuff,

the good stuff, or just go to

the the Florida stories.

We have to Florida starts giving

the cliff notes of the other

one's right.

That way, we're still up to date

with news from the four corners

of the world.

All the cigar industry news, you

could possibly need the cigar

Hustler podcast Report with

Mike's, head says agency plans

to announce flavored cigar

menthol.

Bands and fall of 2023.

Oh so the FDA is going to

recommend that they been

flavored cigars Menthol and

cigarette menthol cigarettes,

like deja vu, really?

Yes the US Food and Drug

Administration is aiming to

finalize proposed rules that

would ban or limit the sales of

flavored cigars and menthol

cigarettes by this fall.

The information was shared by

Brian King, the director FDA

Center, for tobacco products at

the society for research on

nicotine in tobacco 2023 form

King told those in attendance

It's at the agency is working

through.

Roughly 250,000 comments that

were submitted regarding the two

proposed rules.

Technically, fda's considered

the flavored cigar rules

separate from the menthol

cigarettes, though, the agency

has to date, kept the same

public tie lines for the similar

rules.

Interesting.

You know that see how that plays

out maricha Mac joining PCA,

executive committee schmack

smack as Zar mach3, Mike CS Z SZ

AR mach3 called smack smack.

No, smack like a misstep on

cabbage.

Yeah, smack interesting.

There's a no matter the Z.

Sure Mac.

She's York friendlies Mary,

whatever her name is, will join

the premium cigar Association

PCA executive committee later.

This year.

Let what two years ago, they had

just two guys and now they are

just adding on the employees.

Well, they had more before they

did, and then they cut down to

to another.

They're building, ramping up,

ramping, the team back up.

It's part of this process.

Each board member will move up a

position.

Meaning the PCA is new executive

committee will be Scott.

Regina from Emerson, Todd zahi

from ZT Cigars.

Paul grow from Metro cigars,

Mary from Smoker Friendly and

Greg Zimmerman, the Tobacco

Company.

Well Zimmerman's, it's means

that John Anderson of w Curtis

Draper will rotate off the

board.

And it's In is currently the

ex-officio.

I thought they did was on that

board to not anymore.

My co-founder of crowned heads

the final member of the

six-person executive committee

he serves as an association

liaison a row created last year

that allows one Cigar Company

official to serve on the

executive committee.

These are all retailers.

Executive board is made up of

all retailers.

Well, I think that's good.

What do you think that's good.

I guess I don't know what

they're doing.

Wait, what did they rules for

the PCA to help do?

I mean, I know what the PCA

does, but I don't know that this

committee opposed to do, they

have a committee of all cigar

people.

These are all retailers know, I

didn't know they had all these

different boards and directors.

And is this a paying gig?

I don't know if it doesn't, it

doesn't say it isn't

interesting.

But since he is suffers a fire

at the facility and Nicaragua oh

my God on Saturday night

Plasencia suffered a fire one of

his facilities and octal

Nicaragua which according to a

report by Allah radio Nicaraguan

radio station claim be

structure.

That contained boxes of cigars

before local firefighters were

able to put out the battling for

two hours.

From a company perspective, this

was a minor event and yesterday

we continued with production

Hank Beach off.

Placentia told, have told cigar

sir, podcast little that will,

cause the news brought to you by

half wheel where you go for all

your information for is he

paying, you know, is I'm paying,

did he answer, he's kind of been

dodging me about paying all

these going to.

Obviously, we prefer does not to

occur, but primarily we're happy

that no one was hurt.

So explored, rather there was no

fire, but it was gonna be a fire

at least nobody was hurt.

Hmm.

He had a Plasencia has a

long-standing policy and

practice of having production

facilities in both Nicaragua and

Honduras and within those

countries each Those early and

dividual structures are to

prevent events such as fires

from spreading and causing

greater damage.

Literally space.

The building's out.

That's smart.

It isn't.

That would make sense.

All right, now we have some

Florida knows, excellent, very

good floor.

This was submitted by Mark

rozanski.

This is their submitted it last

week.

I'm very sorry, Mark, I forgot,

I even forgot that you send it

wrong, which on, yes, yeah,

Robotron legless amphibian

Millicent of the week legless,

amphibians more commonly known

as rubber eels and more

memorable penis snakes.

We have been discovered in South

Florida, more of them.

Yes, the way they've discovered

penis snakes in Florida.

Penis snakes are now here.

Penis, snakes are not here.

Okay, these slippery little

creatures were first found in

Tammy, any Canal?

Not far, eme damyang is what I

said.

No, not Timmy any Tamiami.

You say same word twice Tamiami.

What did I say Tani?

Temne any okay whatever

discovered is of what?

That's like a, you know, I'm

right.

So let's move.

I don't know how he said it.

So well they say well we have it

on video so far from the Miami

International Airport so they

must have flew in.

Yeah, the DNA test by the

Florida museum of natural

history is confirmed that they

are.

In fact, penis snakes from

Colombia and Venezuela,

technically making them an

invasive species.

I think in varying quite a bit

in length.

As penis is good.

Yeah.

From just a couple of inches all

the way up to 5 feet genetics or

everything to add 2, big penis,

the specimen captured in the sea

for Canal was two feet.

They are also tend to thrive and

shallow, warm bodies of water.

Right, let's look at go bodies

of water, are with aquatic

vegetation in certain areas of

the canal, do fit those

criteria.

There's still a lot about the

penis thing scientists have yet

to learn.

They don't know a lot about the

people, learn a lot about the

penis, but the penis has very

little is known about these

animals in the wild.

There's nothing particularly

dangerous about them and they

don't appear to be serious.

Predators roll Coleman Sheehy

from the Florida museum of

herpetology.

Yeah.

Collections in a special report

on the animals are probably eat

small animals and get eaten by

larger animals, which makes any

sense they'd small ones and

bigger.

You think, yeah, it's man's

obviously overpaid.

This could just be another

non-native species and the south

Florida makes this point, really

don't know enough, whether to

say they are bad or good, but

they're here.

That's why we want to find out.

I don't think one day, find a

penis snake and Florida.

So, this was a huge surprise.

It's not a real snake.

It's It is, Well, it did.

Its, it looks like a lizard dish

but it has very tiny feet.

So the goal is, why'd you just

Google penis is a worm Two feet,

when I call the penis, Nick, he

can five feet long, tell the

snake, right.

Oh, when I took down the the bar

yesterday behind the old bar top

from the original bar.

Yeah.

There was a 4-foot, garnished

trouser trouser snake.

Garter snake.

Okay.

It was a, it was a PDP snack.

It's a B2B it was a Pity be

snakes.

Very big.

Big garden.

Snake.

Yes, not a gardener snake.

Oh, God, it doesn't like do the

whole gardening.

It's a, you just not a gardener.

Just leave me alone, does it

guard?

It's just a Garden.

Snake right?

Volusia County.

Florida Daytona Beach man.

Was bitten by 9-foot.

Alligator that was a snake

snake.

Being is alligator said the

attack happened.

After he heard a noise of the

front door you opened it only

not only to find an unexpected

visitor home.

I I seen this song.

Yeah.

Scott Hollingsworth said he was

watching TV with his wife and

the home of Champions drive when

he heard a bump at the door.

I jumped up a headed to the open

the door stepped out.

We're trying to reach the

lights, and barely get out the

door, and he got my leg.

Done started.

Shaking violently he said,

Hollingsworth said in the dark

outside, so he thought it at

first, he'd been bitten by a

dog.

It happened so quickly.

It wasn't a whole lot of time,

it just totally surprised and

shocked.

He said, that's why you always

answer the door with a gun in

your hand, or look at the ring

camera.

He saw alligators behind her

house.

It's not make sense.

Okay.

Regular thing, but they always

keep their distance from us.

On the word said he was Bitten

on the upper thigh and taken to

a hospital and non-life

threatening injuries.

I suspect I surprise you

alligators much.

He's surprised.

Me, well, he knocked on the door

for gonna say.

Yeah, you know he's obviously

trained he's figured out that

this is a good way to eat, right

rapper called by the Florida

Fish and Wildlife conserve

Conservation Commission found

the gator and euthanized it

killed it.

They has he should have because

he bet somebody did somebody is

over a certain size, tasted the

blood.

There's a there's a six foot

gator in my neighborhood now.

Don't answer the door.

Yeah, according to the FWC be

hungry.

Nuisance alligators are

euthanized and not.

Get it because they're there is

a stable and healthy population.

Florida, relocated alligators

often tried to return to the

captured site, just minute the

door again, and end up fighting

with other Gators in their new

habitat.

FW officials say, despite being

bitten Hollingsworth said, he

wished the alligator could have

been spared.

Oh my God.

Nice man.

After you got bit.

Yeah, I think of any gonna be a

oh, fuck.

That guy.

I worked on a farm growing up

and have been out in the wild

life.

My whole life, you know, I love

seeing the animals but not But

not that close, he lives in

Champions Gate, little too close

to me.

He said, Hollingsworth expected

to make a full recovery.

Where's Champions Gate?

That's the golf community and

like Orlando Kissimmee.

Well, there's this day, Tom.

Oh, well as a literal 12

different, it's got to be it's

got to be a the gulf I've heard.

You know, he didn't check his

ring care.

He must live in a really nice

neighborhood.

Probably does.

Yeah.

Oh, I wonder who's there?

I hope.

It's a girl scouts could be at

the door.

It's dark out over the door

Gator.

Grabs your thigh.

But whenever this thin mints,

it's oh honey, they're here with

a feminized.

Alligator was making a fucking

poop bags on other people's

Doors.

Light one buyer.

He got startled.

I bite you.

Oh, shit, I was trying to like

this Listen to the week,

Michael.

Oh yeah, Roma, John.

This is our the week.

Mark rozanski a gay, a Roma John

ba-bam.

You have a shot of the week.

Oh actually pocket d'albret fry

yesterday did you?

Yes accidentally.

I did I actually was out working

at her I'm bringing and I feel

like why is it ringing?

And I called he was getting on a

plane.

Going to Honduras.

Oh I'm going to make the shop of

the week.

Yes.

Secreto cigars.

I haven't done that.

Recently.

No no.

We have ever done.

Yeah Secreto cigars Java.

Louis Ronnie.

How you sure?

If you're gonna call Michael and

tell him what he's doing wrong

this week, we would greatly.

And now every time get every

time he takes us somewhere.

We always go, you know we got

here before pasta.

Yeah, that's what he said.

They all they say to me every

time.

Every time every time, you know,

last time I got here last time,

we got a lot of guys, don't know

which way you're going, all

right?

And against anybody, I think

that's ill you want to plug

anything.

You got anything?

Coming up any personal

appearances?

Anything?

Yeah, great smoke.

Okay, you gonna do great smoke

and our winner did get his

prize.

So Tim is all set with his

prized.

Excellent.

Do you know, Tim's last name?

Not that my head.

Mick.

Yeah, something with it.

He's doing it.

He's doing it.

He's doesn't live in Florida.

It's a Canadian or something.

Yeah, so I checked with him,

when we got back from the TPA to

make sure he had received his

prize and he had excellent

gotten his code.

Congratulations.

Tim congratulations.

Thank you for participating and

our contest.

Yep, could have been Mark Gordon

but yeah, he was he, he asked if

timid check today.

Yes, it did.

The guy ever Yeah, he got it.

Sorry more.

You know what was the other

contests?

He said he one second.

Oh, the The Room 101 ring.

He was second runner-up on it

here first, but he got something

nice from a booth with the he

did only fencing.

Oh yeah, he didn't he didn't so

stop griping.

Yeah.

You can't win all of them.

Like everything like boots.

With all of them.

It's there with him.

How he didn't win it.

The charity function though.

He didn't.

Yeah, they did one of the

Espinosa thing.

Well, yeah, you did.

Oh yeah.

Do you got the the Crayola?

Oh, yeah.

That's right.

Yeah, she was up at once and she

upped her bed and she got the

second.

So, you know, this is I'm

winning, I'm winning.

Well, that was your last bid.

She said, after this, I got the

security guard thing.

What's no one was taking it away

from me.

What?

Security good thing I got that

thing up.

The well, it's a day with the

well, he's retired Eliezer g0.

You got that.

Oh yeah.

I got that.

Oh, that's nice.

Oh yeah.

I got that.

You want to have pizza with

Father?

The last supper with Father

Charlie?

Yeah, father Charlie pizza

party.

It's that was expense.

How is he?

Okay.

How much that go for twenty five

hundred dollars?

Ya Salam.

It's so expensive.

Little Caesars battery.

Really good pizza.

I mean, if it's blast, it is,

but it has to be, has to be

kosher kosher interesting.

It's okay.

No, that's a Catholic

schoolgirl.

Look, they all go to the same

school.

They do the same thing.

We see is the school on the same

grounds.

ER, yeah.

Oh yeah.

That's all.

Yeah, beat it.

Look like a huge place.

Couldn't it's a decent size?

Yeah.

Oh and your kids going to be the

Principal for a day.

Yeah.

To present.

Big deal principles for the day.

Yeah.

That's a big deal.

I was explaining that to

Justice.

What's that about?

Oh really yeah buddy.

Yeah.

Where is that wasn't me?

That was Eric.

Eric, each one there is kid is

going to be the justice justice.

Okay?

See, Eric is Justice.

I'm going to tell him that he's

the head coach.

I'm not that coach.

He's the head coach.

Oh we're going, we're back in

this up.

Yeah 100%.

Oh by the way you do, coached

another sport.

Now to we were here That's what

he's doing right now he's back.

Yeah, I thought that only

happened like one day.

Oh Eric mean it's only goes an

ongoing thing he did.

But he's backing it up right now

because the reality is that, if

he says, hey we're coaching

this.

I will I'll roll with him.

I'm sure no problem.

Oh, it was another sport though.

I didn't basketball.

Oh yeah.

The one you told you whenever

coach correct?

Okay, six players on the gym.

I just want you to know - what's

your name on the gym there.

They step on Carriage Memorial

Gym.

I just want to know that I've

worked on a plan B for that.

I've approached the personal

trainer that we use from.

Next.

Yeah.

Who's specializes in basketball?

Is the Michael Jordan guy,

correct?

Yes.

Matt Jordan, yes.

Yeah.

And I said, Hey, listen, what do

you think about coaches?

If the other coach is no longer

available, what do you think

about coaching, that'd be epic.

That's some real shit right

there.

Yeah I wonder what his price is

going to be.

You gotta pay him.

I would pay him.

Michael Jordan pay him for his

time.

He's told you he's a volunteer

thing for the health of

children.

If he wants to do a volunteer,

who voluntarily shell, if I

volunteered you offer me money,

I'm not gonna go.

No, no, don't be, hey, but it's

not like he has kids on the

team, right?

I may be insane.

If you had a kid on the team,

then that's a different.

But if he did it right, he could

parlay it into more 100%.

Yes.

But I'ma tell you right now,

bringing more children.

Like I could tell any all he has

to do is why I say I trained

Michael Jordan, he didn't train

Michael.

Jordan, I thought I was the

dream work with Larry worked

with Tim Grover who trained.

He Attack Athletics.

I thought it was Tim Grover.

No, I thought that's what you

said last time now.

It's not Tim Grover, okay.

So a guy, who knows a guy who

knows Tim Grover?

Yeah, I pulled up in my

Lamborghini today to sell

cigars, what do you fucking?

Come on.

Ben No, sorry what.

I gotta like that bud.

I mean that's what I thought I

was like man.

That's pretty dumb of the three

of us boots is the closest

person that has like that just

for the record.

So that was a waste.

Yeah I heard that I heard that

but boots instruct us otherwise

All right, that's it then right?

This is episode 271.

Stay tuned for the Jack and ha

exclusive.

Thank you very much.

Hey, what was it?

Switch cameras on this one.

So guys, our podcast special

edition.

We are sitting here today with

Jack Toronto and Hector Alfonso

from Espinosa cigars.

Yes, yes.

And we he didn't say anything

that what we could have could

not say about, you know, they

were into this room, really.

I like that, for that particular

reason.

Yeah, exactly keeping you, we

don't like to have any, you

know, we run a disclaimer.

It's, you know, is there a

disclaimer?

Well, your honor this class.

There's no disclaimer.

Okay good.

Good ha for you did read us the

riot act although we couldn't

talk about, but I'm not.

Reading you, you don't want to

know Mike.

No, Mike, it's for your own

protection.

It's out now.

Okay.

Well, which was my point.

We started a side business Forum

in here called.

Eminem management the banners

over there on the wall.

Oh yeah, we tried to come over

taco.

No, it's we tried to manage only

fan accounts.

Okay, so I've never been on only

van.

So I had to do one to figure out

how they work.

So I could use one for other.

So, I talked my wife and let me

take a picture of her feet.

So we said, disappointed at you,

right now, we started an only

fans account.

Disappointed, are you then we

couldn't.

Would you have been offended if

we had called you about that?

No, not now that, I mean, in the

beginning, probably.

Yeah, I'll like it, like it.

The Tepee to Tepee.

First of all, I know you better.

We Crystal sir I'm gonna need

you to speak into the

microphone, I was told thank

you.

No, no you could have because we

find them on the show.

It didn't work out because it's

too hard to do.

I did you can't you she said you

can't run.

Somebody else's only fans

because you have to work it.

Like you have to sit there at

night and and worst the crowds.

Listen, the first time I told

you not to say anything that was

when it was fresh, right?

When you had brought it up again

at tpe, it was just a question

of where you going to be loyal

to me or not.

I mean, are we going to keep

pressing me?

I don't like we're any of this.

You can't.

We had four people we were doing

them.

And we had to stop doing it

because it wasn't working that.

Well I'll tell you what went.

Well, I ran across.

Be a stop question because I do

have a question on what you just

said.

Okay?

All right.

You created and it came to our

attention you convinced your

wife to do this, right?

Just her feet in a row, it

wasn't her name.

I get it, okay, I get it.

But in the description of what

the only fanspage was a sort of

said, things like I'm an

educator, right?

I'd like to punish you for your

school work, trying to work the

angle.

Couldn't she have gotten in big

fucking trouble for nicer feet.

And her name was never on your

feet with a tattoo.

That is easy to identify.

Well, well, we we would assume

that people on the only fans if

they're on there, they're in as

much trouble as she would have

been here.

Forever was under when we saw

the picture, when I saw the

picture and I Mentioned the

Jack.

Hey, Jack was how wonderful this

I go.

I'll be right back, and then he

sent me the side by side.

It's Palmer's white, right?

Yeah.

It says, he'll, I like her.

I know her.

Well and now I like her feet.

We're gonna think we're one of

the things I was trying is the

only or ninety-nine a month,

you'll be fine.

The only fans thing on Facebook,

but then what part of your body,

where you, I didn't do one, I

didn't do it.

Went to look at me, I'll tell

him how about the guns, where

the guns on?

There was real gun show, how he

was insulated away were so many,

We have tested, like I said,

instead of his wife screams I

said look I had I want no part

of any of this region for the

idea but after that he was like

I don't want them.

I mean it sounds good on you

guys.

Do whatever the fuck you want

and that's it.

I don't want any part of his

habitat management folded, yes,

but the sign covers up the

circuit breaker box on a wall.

So we left that up.

Mmm.

Yeah, we still have that.

You feel better now, I do feel

better.

You got it out, you know.

Listen, you, you thought we

would offend mr.

Palmer here, clearly, we did

when we were still in the

beginning, when we were still

doing a lot of talking, I get

one people.

We still kept, as you say, but

since it's the funks, now I

don't want to be heard and

you're not the first person

who's asked somebody else.

Somebody else asks to recently,

I forget who it was, all right,

beat her and is now with know

everything leads back to Pete.

Well, he got a free pass.

Oh you leave it alone.

Pete is the best sales rep in

the No, she said to say hi to

you guys.

Yes?

Yeah.

We submitted another order to

Tyler.

All right, so, hey, let's get

into some details here.

So, what's going on with you

break12?

Tomorrow?

We go.

The big smoke, the big smile.

Yeah.

The Big Smoke.

How is tpe?

TBE was day one.

And two were fantastic.

Yeah, anyone, wait a minute.

Anything happens.

I'm sorry.

Day one and three were fantastic

day.

One and three were fantastic day

to not so much.

They to the the day was good.

The night got a little bit,

interesting.

Yeah, you know what a night got

a little bit.

What happened?

Jack.

I mean, I thought you'd be

asking questions.

I am I just said what happened.

This is what we call ourselves

better investigate.

Tell us what happened, Jack

after you got the same question,

trying to get your opinion on

things you can lead you into it.

If you know, look, there's we

gotta do it ordered.

Some charcuterie from rooms are.

So so you guys were there, you

telling me you guys were there?

What?

I turn up that filter sitting

sideways over here.

I'm fucking melting.

Okay, so listen.

So Since we have parted you all

of us, parted ways in Las Vegas.

So we said goodbye.

It is quarter.

You onto your plane.

Yeah, abandon you and went to

the Centurion Lounge.

Yeah, with Pete Hernandez,

previous.

He was on our plane.

What, why was he on your play?

He lives up here now.

That's right.

He lives in Tampa.

That's right.

That's right.

What's going on over there?

Why is he picking up the check?

We all know how strong you are

relaxed.

It was rolling up the mat since

we had.

I mean, I'm sure you guys saw a

picture today on Social media.

No, no, somebody sent it to me.

There you go.

Okay.

So II feel that a ton of

questions Eric's about the

Hector's of and I do have that

kind of thing about to leave the

room and you had to have a ton

of questions, I do have a ton of

questions, it's a, it's a fuck.

He'll show you.

It's sure he's gotten 75,000.

He's probably got right here.

Alright, I got it at three in

the morning.

I got it from.

It's a background on his phone,

have fun.

Okay?

Yeah, which isn't a surprise to

me but anyways, why is that?

Why is that I want you to speak

first before I go ahead and you

just made a comment.

I was about to start speaking

but now you you okay.

There are kids in super nice

guy.

Well no, not even that. like,

You from what the way that you

enter.

The were telling me how the

situation may or may not unfold.

I didn't see it didn't I wasn't

feeling that.

That was going to be the way

whatsoever, right?

Well I don't know which way you

think it unfold, okay?

So then that's why you need to

kind of elaborate.

So it unfolded it unfold, it's

similar to what you might be

thinking.

All right, that Eric went there

to kind of negotiate, a truce,

right should have sent Hector.

But Hector, yeah, Eric went to

negotiate, a truce and came back

with a picture.

Are they shaking hands in a

photo?

But the, the question was that

we had gotten word that this kid

was mortified.

He wanted to apologize.

He made a huge mistake off of

emotion.

Listen, if Improvement, if

everybody held me accountable

for what I did in my, I don't

know how old this kid is, but

probably 20s late, 20s 30s, I

don't know.

Okay, if everybody would have

held me accountable for what I

did back then, right?

I'll be in trouble.

I didn't want to ruin.

This is why I didn't press

charges.

Okay.

I didn't want to ruin this kids.

Life right, basically, your, you

know, whatever it was.

Yeah, whatever would have

happened.

I didn't want to do it but five

days later.

I had expected an apology, right

from both of them.

Yeah, a sincere apology and it

hadn't come.

So my thing was, I still got

time to press charges, right?

You know, if nobody's remorseful

and everybody thinks they're

just going to walk away from

this, right then there's news

coming.

Eric, wanted to handle it.

And we had heard that the kid

wanted to apologize and had been

asking for my phone number, but

nobody knew how receptive I

would be to that apology.

So then there's that meeting.

They meet on.

I don't know what day it was.

Wednesday day before yesterday

night.

Yeah, they right here.

That's a shotgun microphone.

We can hear you got enough

already made.

They made on.

You don't hear your voice in

your ears, that means it's not

working, you know, I'm a smart

guy.

I might not want to be heard on

this bus, I know, but I need, I

need He heard a number one

podcast.

And okay, I hear that, that

link.

If we have to paint a little,

it's a little bit of a picture a

little background.

Okay?

So a little bit of a background.

Everybody knows the issues that

have been going on with these

two companies.

Sure, there's been circulating

one side of.

This is a lot of very close

friends of mine, including a

family member, right Miguel.

Shield Dell and you know Brian

Mcgee.

Yeah, Wes a lot of people I care

dearly about right, right or

wrong I say, Cited with them

didn't want?

Not that I cited with them

because I never went public

never said anything pilot, but

they're your friends.

They're my friends.

Yeah, II.

You side with your friends and

your side with your friend

period?

Yeah.

This area more than that.

Okay.

So now, if you feel like they

were wrong behind closed doors,

they are.

I think you fucked up and here's

why.

Oh, yeah, if if, when this is

over and done if it's ever over

and done, I will go back to them

and go.

What the fuck, what did you get

me into you guys?

You know, you Yeah, it turns out

you guys were full of shit, but

yeah, that's probably not

likely, but okay, so on setup

day and and my only thing was

I'm not shaking anybody's hand.

Hmm.

You know, I'm certainly not

somebody has done something to

one of my friends.

I'm certainly not shaking their

hand.

Yeah.

So onset of day, they came by

the booth and I never made their

national sales director.

Came to say hi to me.

I'm good friends with him,

right?

And but But the main man there,

I don't know if we even dropped

his name.

Don't need to know the main man.

There got a clear message there

that I wanted nothing to do with

nothing to do with it right for

the time being right?

Yeah, whatever, whatever.

Look I'm gonna tell you right

now.

I have shaken a hand of a person

that is wrong somebody that I

love and care about and I have

fucking regretted it to this

day.

So I understand why you're like

a, you know, maybe you could

have gone about it differently.

Who the fuck knows?

I mean, I'm not here to critique

a play a quarterback when you

hear the story cuz you

unfortunately you guys weren't

there, right?

And I'm not going to quarterback

on Monday.

Yeah, yeah, I'm just not going

to do that.

So so we get to what is an

Espinosa event from seven to

nine at a bar and a cigar lounge

in in Las Vegas.

And he had finished, or was

supposed to have a meet and

greet from four to six in the

back room that I Blood over to

near 7:00.

And once again, I never went to

the back room.

I never made eye contact with

him.

Never you avoided him.

I avoided a private voided, any

of that.

Unfortunately, I did joke to a

blogger when I walked in and he

said, what are you doing here,

right?

Like what do you mean?

What am I doing here?

It's an Espinosa against.

It's an Espinosa event.

I'm here to fuck with, right?

Oh, and He ran with that.

Hmm.

And any, and I would, and as I

explained to him later, I would

understand that if I had then

gone right and but I didn't,

yeah.

I, you know, I mean, if anybody

knows who you are, and it wasn't

offended comment.

Yeah.

If anyone knows the type of

individual that you are that

you're, you know, you're

extremely jovial.

So anyway, you're a bit of a

prankster to some degree.

But, you know, at the end of the

day, when it comes to taking off

your pants, you're going to stop

at that line.

Like, you're not.

We're not getting naked.

You know what I mean?

Alright I know what you mean.

Yeah, I do like May threaten it

but you ain't pulling it up.

Right?

Right, right.

Right, ha, yeah, just like this

spot brought to you by Eminem

management.

So anyways, so the funny thing

is salesman of the Year.

Tyler Jones had been standing

next to me and Richie is doing

the selling Richie's at the

table, doing the selling across

a room, right?

And Look at Tyler and I said,

Tyler, you really have nothing

to do?

Here you go get a drink and you

know that sentence hadn't even

been completed when Tyler was

off to go get him a drink.

Yeah, he was gone.

Thank God that he was gone

because it might've escalated.

Oh yeah, there was Posse for

posse to right now.

I didn't even know that he was.

I should have expected it, but I

didn't know that he had his

posse behind him, but as he's

walking out, he stands in my

face and now sticks his hand

out, right?

And stares at me and I just

looked back at him and he said

you're not going to shake my

hand and I said, absolutely not

Ryan, he said that speaks

volumes of Who You Are.

And I said, well, the reason I'm

not shaking your hand is because

I know who you are, right?

And then it became everybody's

lying.

Everybody's this at, I don't

care.

I don't care but it continued

everybody's lying.

Everybody's lying everybody's

lying and he's lying again.

I don't care.

I know that he was punctuating

and at one point like this that

looked like he was gonna and I

said, don't don't touch me

right?

And he said I'm not going to

touch you but this is as this

like this I'm not touching you

so the next thing I know he

calls me an asshole.

Yeah and I respond with you're a

pussy right and then out of

nowhere and thank God this kid

can hit, right?

There's a sucker but they're

very tall.

Yeah there's a synthetic God for

many men.

I would have had to head, my try

Dame alcohol whatever a sucker

punches thrown the grazes off my

Head and then he's tackled and

the whole melee bullshit that

never took place in Sue's with

everybody grabbing and everybody

pushing, huh?

And and off, they go one way and

I go in the other way and I'm

the owner and the manager want

me to press charges and I'm like

dude I don't come from that

world.

I'm not I'm not pressing

charges.

Yeah.

Back in my twenties and thirties

that would have been handled way

differently and it would have

involved law enforcement right

coming after us for the way it

would have been handled, right?

Retired.

I'm retired.

But he showed up with the bag of

money to bail me like then he

wasn't though.

Yeah.

Maybe when I was in my 20s and

30s he was he was I was 15, your

five years younger than me, 20,

those 15 20s and 30s, okay?

15 to 22.

He have to be a little bit.

And so, you know, we laughed.

Apparently the guy was supposed

to be not supposed to be.

He was suspended from the show

floor but it was there, there he

was.

Was and then I was told that

that he expected me to be

suspended for some reason.

So you think with every single

time that you have heard or

allegedly heard something was

going to be done and it hasn't

been done.

You thought that they would

honestly call you and apologize.

I did I did.

Because before all hell broke

and sucker were yeah.

Before listen I I tend to I tend

to see the good in people.

Okay.

And when the dust settles, I

tend to see the good in people.

I did not instigate this, I did

not it.

She ate the first insult.

I did not and I certainly didn't

hit anybody and I could have hit

this kid because they had them

around my neck right II.

Took the high road.

Yeah, you know, so I thought

there would be there would be

some sort of apology um sort of

but I think five days later

there was nothing.

Yeah.

So that's where Eric came in

right and they call that had to

make a piece.

But we can do the hand thing my

bro.

Gonna sit down.

So yeah.

So we're going to make a pizza.

So we you know when Eric came

back and we talked in the office

and I found out about the

picture, I wasn't too happy

about it, it hadn't come out,

you know, because you know what?

Like that's a bad that kind of

seems like the mo is like, he

will take something and kind of

make it a little bit more,

right?

Yeah.

So, so either way, a, in that

meeting I said, listen, I'm

gonna call him and he said

you're gonna make it worse.

Is I'm not gonna make it worse.

I'm gonna put an end to it

tonight, okay?

I'm gonna call Him and I called

them.

And he challenged him to a

dance-off.

No, I called him that call them

in like 4:30 mr.

For 30 minutes.

We spoke on my way home.

That was in the car too.

And I think 25 of those minutes

he was kind of telling me about

his issues with this other Cigar

Company, right to which I was

like I don't care right?

You know it was always defending

his position.

Yeah.

And I got all this documentation

and I got all this is always

defending his position and is

and I said, listen, I'm gonna go

One step further.

If you have everything you say

you have and if you there's

nothing worse in this world than

being falsely accused, right?

Wish you the best right, clear

your name right by all means.

I wish you the best.

I'm rooting for but if it looks

like a duck judgment on that but

it is what it is but he said

when he wasn't defending his his

we needed him on the podcast,

the next fire with the other

company who me?

Yeah.

Who is Know who else is in a

fight with, who else is in a

fight with?

What are you talking about?

He said he's got all this

information on something.

Somebody else did to him or

something.

Oh yeah you just follow the

breadcrumbs.

I mean there's it's a rhyme look

if you want to talk you listen

I'ma tell you right now, listen

if you want me to download you

on the patreon I'll download you

on the patron but it's not that

hard you just so anyway, quite

apparent good.

We had a we had a decent

conversation.

Those guys to watch it ended

that he would.

Be with this kid.

Yeah.

In about half an hour, could he

called me because the kids Dino

apologize.

He's right.

Mortified of what happened and

and I said absolutely so.

So about how are you talking to

the head guy?

I thought you were talking to

the guy that took the swinging.

No not yet.

Oh see.

That's why I didn't understand.

I think the other guy was doing

something called.

Yeah.

All right, time, I'm Lisa.

I'm sorry Jack, I'm older.

I'm older.

Who's the main host?

And who's a good?

It's a great question.

I think about you, we argue

about that every week, so so I

spoke to the kid.

Listen, the Kid seemed very

sincere, right?

He, he was a little bit

emotional and and I told him

listen.

Yeah.

I am not going to press charges.

You acted emotionally.

I can't tell you at your age.

I wouldn't have acted the same

way, right?

Or I can't even tell you, if

Tyler Jones would have been

there.

Yeah, you know, he would have

acted the same way, but I can

tell you this, I any one of my

reps takes a shot at another

principle like that unprovoked

and a sucker punch.

They're gone.

Any one of a hundred espinoza's

employees, including me.

And Hector would have done that.

Ha coming.

Okay, well, we I'd have been

gone.

All right.

Well, other side of that

enjoying to know if any of my

people took a shot at somebody.

I would probably support them.

My guy because I'm a sucker

punch live, one of your.

I'm not trying to sort out the

details here.

I'm just saying that if some

shit goes down.

No but listen I did no doubt

about it.

Yeah and and and I have no doubt

about Eric Espinoza would have

supported me.

Had I throw in a second point.

I like it, I retaliate.

Okay.

All right, I want to let me

paint a picture for you.

I am not your friend and I'm

coming to kick your ass, right?

I'm pissed off at you, for

whatever reason was already the

stories completely different,

right?

Okay.

Well, whatever you Whatever.

Okay.

But it's a different scenario.

Ha knows that I'm coming, right?

I approached and he hits me in

the back of the head.

Should he be fucking fired?

Should he be fired?

I have no idea.

That's a completely different

system but he sucker-punched me.

You said flat out that hey you

know coming for him you're

coming for him this guy before

he got there was not a kind I

wasn't yeah.

Whatever the case may be.

Well there's you're talking

premeditation, there's no

premeditation.

There's no, there's no zero

premeditation.

So if there's premeditation I'll

you go there for stock that a

sucker punches.

Okay.

You have to when you're going to

compare looking for the team and

I told that listen, I told his

kid, I said I would have

respected you more if when he

called me an asshole and I

called him a pussy, you've got

in my face and said you You

can't talk to my boss like that,

you can't talk to whatever, you

know?

You can't talk to you.

I would have respected him,

right?

No, no now we're face-to-face.

But listen, by far, the kid made

a mistake.

Yeah.

Right.

As the belly band, there's no

issue.

And and I said that to you

before over the phone, like, you

know, face the belly button, he

made a mistake.

All right, it's good that he

owned his mistake because that's

the only way you grow as a

person, right?

I'm just simply saying that, you

know, as far as like a camp is

concerned or People are

concerned my fucking people are

my people, like they're with me

for a reason if they if they're

an assholes and they're, you

know, and they're eradicate all

the time then that's totally

different.

I wouldn't have them all my team

but, you know, but if somebody

fucking, if they fucking clip

somebody and they didn't see it

coming, they're still I'm still

going to back them.

I may go, you can't, you can't

throw that blank.

I'ma tell you right now because

afterwards I would say.

What the fuck was that?

Okay, behind closed doors?

Now here's the problem.

Yeah, only.

One, there's many problems.

Okay.

But that his decision could cost

them business by keeping

somebody.

Now, now you hundred percent.

Now what are your employee?

Totally agree.

Knock somebody out.

And now people stop coming here.

I totally agree because he still

working at.

Totally agree.

What do you do?

I don't know.

Boots is gone.

I don't know.

SEC.

Oh, great.

Yeah, this is his plan.

I don't know.

It depends upon if I really how

much you really like the person

ever want to die on that hill or

not, you know what I mean?

I mean, if that's going to be a

case by case scenario, and

that's what I'm trying to tell

you, it's a case.

Well, it's a lose-lose for the

crazy case, you painted it that

nobody.

It's a lose-lose for this guy,

100% without question, because

it makes definitely makes the

company look bad, right?

It makes the individual look bad

even though he is sympathetic

and, you know, a Rapala jeddak,

right?

It's like it's still, I mean,

listen, how old are you jack?

He even 62.

Okay.

So to swing on a 62 year old

man.

Now that in itself, right?

Like I'm not excusing playing

that to him, I'm not excusing.

Any of that shit whatsoever.

I'm just saying that, you know

maybe if one of my my boys

sucker punch somebody, I'm not

going to be like it's

inexcusable and blah, blah,

blah.

I just don't understand how we

got to like, Eric reaching out

and bearing the fucking Hatchet.

I just don't like well, Eric

didn't bury the hatchet.

Eric did I did okay you took a

picture of me for that.

Listen, that is what it is.

I don't want to get into that

anymore.

I mean, Eric, but you didn't

need this coming up every time

you run into the industry is not

that big and it won't be that it

won't come out to do you take

his hand out as a matter of

fact, the kid even said to me

I'll be at the, you know, I'll

be at the Big Smoke, right.

I almost said his name.

He told Louis.

Louis Louis told me that that he

was punished in other ways?

I don't know how Okay, I

whatever, I don't really care if

we get the cheese on the board,

only the cheese, the one thing

that can have Louis, what's

going on?

What's going on with them and

the other company?

And now what went on in Las

Vegas?

And I told him is a black eye

for this anyway.

Enough already, black eye for

the industry.

I mean, I don't know if it's a

black it's a black eye for his

company.

Yeah, without question, but it's

definitely not good for the

industry to have, you know,

principles of companies.

I'd like to say fighting but

being attacked by sales reps.

You know, Hector's got a

comment.

You said you said Hector was

going to say a lot about this.

I did.

I did I'm surprised I haven't

been asked a single question.

Oh, so how do you feel about it?

How do you feel about all this?

What is your opinion are you are

you done with Jack?

Am I done with Jack?

That all depends on what all

depends on what you say.

Listen I wasn't there and I

think it's in hindsight, it's

good that I wasn't there.

The I have a different opinion

of this.

My opinion doesn't matter

because I wasn't there.

I agree with what Jack saying.

This is, it's enough of this

already, right?

We're gonna.

Yeah, we're going on a week of

this.

This is a micro Community.

Everybody knows each other.

Everybody knows another not only

does everybody know, each other

everybody knows.

And you know this opportunity

for Jack on to come on here and

say, you know, to finally?

Yeah, clear the air right.

Well, probably, he's in getting

the text messages about getting

a black eye and know.

It's kinda crazy spending a

night.

Nostalgia, really showing that

it really was, like, you got,

see, it's really kind of funny

to me is

And Erica.

This was not a comfortable trim,

I've been with him. 11 years, he

doesn't he doesn't handle this.

Well because you have who

doesn't handle Well Jack Herer

know, Eric, they're hella told

in the sense that you have.

Well, he's a nice guy.

He really is.

Yeah, the end.

It's got a big.

You got a big heart is, his

heart is always in the right

place, but you have to, you have

to, he's juggling what he would

do as in compared to what you

should, what you did, what you

should have done, how could we

avoided us?

He has other concerns that he

has to worry about, of course.

And I think If Jack is happy

this is over.

He is happy that it's over and

I'm sure once this pot hello

Jack is hopeful that it's over

right?

And I hope so, it's over.

If you decided to be over know,

I think again, again I have

decided it's over.

I accepted his apology and the

final thing he said to me was

listen, I'll be at the Big

Smoke.

Yeah.

Do you mind if I come and do

this again in person, right?

And I said, absolutely your

we're good.

Yeah, like I said, we just want

to just want to get.

It was also at the wedding, the

Open the door, let him in here.

He is, is the right here on the

show, right?

So listen.

I'm just glad when we gonna set

that up, I'm gonna apologize in

person that you didn't have

time.

Yeah, we don't have time, but

what kind of fun.

But like, listen, I'm going to

get him on the phone.

I spoke to you on the phone via

FaceTime even though you hung up

on me.

Angrily for no reason.

Why that hurt you.

Huh, it did.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It did very sensitive did.

I mean even yesterday it was two

days ago, whatever it was

before.

For Eric was going to the I just

I just want to know, I can hold

the fucking Grudge pal.

Okay.

You are in the wrong room.

Yeah, but like I even said to

you at that time like, dude,

fucking apology or no apology.

Who gives a fuck.

Just move the fuck on.

But you, this is what you need

to understand.

I'm driving like to be in trying

Fielding text messages, phone

call yesterday, a guy from

Seattle, I heard you had a black

eye and I said, dude, you were

with me in the booth on Friday.

He goes, I don't know it.

Maybe I Missed it or something.

I said you think you would have

missed if I had the right guy

I've been knocked out.

I've been in a hospital I get so

hot it wasn't the picture right

was what you wrote but just ride

that is just right.

Like it's you know when they

hashtag too soon too soon.

If I would have been on your

show three weeks from now, maybe

it was time to laugh about it

but it still wasn't time to

laugh about it.

I think that it's always time to

laugh about these sort of tell

you.

Nobody got hurt to talk about

the foot fetish on day one.

Yeah we thought it was plenty of

Time to laugh about it.

You said it wasn't.

Okay.

And we honored your and we

honored your request.

See you got here.

Well, that was seven months ago.

Yeah.

So let's say I wasn't statute

limitations on better.

Check.

Just tattoo refreshed yesterday

and out.

Now there's only only one only

fanspage.

I look at it.

I'm just kidding.

Mike found yours Michael.

Damn cereal fetish cereal that a

Mikaelson in bowls of cereal, is

what it is eating, an entire

boxes, milk and Cheerios

dripping all over it.

So this is so that pays.

Well, that's where it stands

right now.

Yeah, might be able to get a

little more out of me on the

pantheon.

Major can't injure an injured

man.

Thank you.

Okay.

Alright, the protrusion show.

Whatever the fuck that other

show, but you know, if he comes

up with a great smoke, goes to

shake your hand and swings on

you again, we'll be there.

That would be bad.

Oh ha.

Oh we day.

I don't think I don't think that

shooting.

No, you know what dude?

Like honestly, I don't think

that whether he is, and I've had

a couple of companies already

call and they've called me and

they've called Eric and listen.

We're kind of we're not carrying

their cigars anymore, we're not.

And both of us have said not,

yeah, not based on.

On that, not based on ya, don't

base that on us, plenty of other

reasons, you know, whatever your

other reasons are.

But but, but please don't make a

decision like that because of

what happened?

No, but listen, look, man,

attempting to hit you is a

lose-lose for anybody.

It really is for one.

You're super nice guy.

Right.

Everybody likes you except these

two guys.

You know what I mean?

Never never.

I never got that far Greg.

I've been reporting this.

I haven't gotten that feeling.

You ever hear the saying?

He's my friend.

All right, so wait, so wait a

second.

So you think their friends are

just supposed to be fucking

fluffy bunny all the time for me

and Mike.

So what are you would?

Let me ask you something if you

not always been plus.

So you're surrounded by, yes

people all the time and on.

Yes, but just I don't.

But if you were fucking up like

you have told me all the come.

You have told me several times

when I have fucked up, you

haven't hesitated.

I don't know.

Do you send me a Christmas card?

Let me ask you a question.

What if you had been standing

next to me?

What have you had been standing?

Because I mean, I see her old

t-shirt.

It would have, you would have

thought it would have been bad.

It would have been, it would

have been bad because I get I

get that because I mean, and all

in all honesty, at that point,

we're knocking everybody the

fuck, right?

And then, later on, we're saying

I'm going.

What the fuck happened?

Like, I don't even know.

You know what I mean?

I'm not gonna, I'm not settling

that situation.

Somebody's eventually gonna grab

me and I'm going away.

And here I am.

Well, I appreciate yeah, but

hopefully, I get away fast

enough.

And, you know, they'll be

looking for me for the, you

know, the next 48 hours.

Siri find bail bondsman in.

Yeah, exactly, exactly.

That would have been it my mug.

But here's what happened, I

would have taken my mug shot the

next day and I want to put it on

a cigar without fucking

hesitation because that's

fucking funny, you know?

But what if you would have been

if somebody would have hit you,

that would have ended the fight.

Yeah.

And nothing happened to you.

Uh-huh.

And then there would have been

pictures out there.

Review with had bandages and

black, I would laughs my fucking

asshole would not have yes, I

would have hit your son.

You tell me those those those

guns don't come with ego.

Come on man.

They do come with ego.

That's why I told you.

What a knocked, everybody the

fuck out of you were fucking

hit?

Where's the bobblehead?

You got for Christmas?

It's in my mouth.

You can see the peepee.

Yeah, it's in my house.

Oh, you found anything on here?

My problem?

Yeah.

What's happened?

Teddy asked me about it all the

time.

She says daddy, why are you

naked?

All the time but that is all

bobbleheads for Christmas.

Got to get back and

unfortunately my keys we didn't

notice you can see he's wearing

like a Dyson my balls.

There's a little bit.

Yeah it's got a ball sack on his

show them the pictures.

Do you order these online

management online?

That will interfere?

Yeah.

They almost even has this too

much time on his hands.

Too much money.

I mean there are plastic, do

It's everywhere.

And this is in circulation,

that's him and he says that it's

on him, he's the only guy that

buys to, he sent Greg like a

big, he sent a package to Greg

that you have to sign and it

said enjoy your gay cruise and

it's two guys on this picture.

It's gigantic and you have to

have the mailman.

Can it to you for you to sign?

So, Greg left, and the guy who

hit his phone, like the

doorbell.

And he said, I need you to come

back because I need your

signature for this.

So he turns back And boom.

Now you there's anything wrong

with the gate crew.

Not a glitter bomb to Greg's

house.

Yeah.

Broke his Bat broke his back.

Yeah Greg tried to get him for a

vacuum.

You owe me a vacuum.

Really?

What?

I got one for me.

Had invited.

I want a really really what

other scenarios would you like

to know how I would have handled

these things?

No.

Because I don't see what the

fuck.

Oh I mean at that point I've

been I would have laughed about

it and if people send me images

and shit, it's just funny, at

that point because people send

me images the image.

Was funny.

It wasn't for social media yet.

It's okay and it to me.

Absolutely.

He just showed me one, that's

really funny.

That's different than posting it

on social.

If somebody asked me, if I was

okay, I would have sent me a

picture of me laying down on the

ground looking like I was dead.

Absolutely, I would just want a

bit upset about it.

Like, you were upset.

I don't want you to be upset

over whatever field that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Are you kidding me with this

little?

Keep comparing it to people

sending pictures of each other,

back and forth.

Yeah, you put it on social

media.

Okay.

Let me ask you something if that

had happened to me.

Nothing ever do that but I know

you and do that.

You think?

One and Thing Two wouldn't

fucking put things up the next

fucking about.

Those are your crosses to bear.

I would have showed it.

I would have been upset me

because there has been times

when you do not have he would

have put it up, it would have

asked because there's been times

you go.

No, you can't put that.

And I'm not saying this to you

for, you know, any reason other

than that like I don't know.

I just don't want you to be

upset about your fur to the foot

fetish incident.

I protect my people I protect my

people.

Clearly, I'm not one of your

people.

If I was standing next to you,

you would have seen how much of

a person I was, I was out of

your fucking people.

Yeah, good thing.

We didn't go, get that wasn't at

the fucking event.

I don't think I have.

You guys were still at the

booth.

You spent fart three days at our

booth 11 guys knows Oliver as

media that you cover, anybody

outcomes do notable where our

chairs.

They're amazing best chairs and

he'll Place.

Yeah, we covered only came to

your booth.

Yeah, we're done here.

I just What's so bad is like I

think the Wasabi land Sarah was

new at the DB.

As I said on a on a podcast I

was I wasn't 100% positive, it

was right by your head.

I'm pretty sure that was a new

release, very thorough, very

thorough with the media

coverage.

What do you want to cover is

very upset about?

There is nothing to cover @tp.

Well, there was this.

Yeah, yeah.

There was a little bit of

excitement.

Well, you know, so there's 72

million sale.

Let me ask you another question.

if I'm staying as you think

somebody fucking sucker punches,

you I don't know.

I don't think I might reconsider

it.

Yeah, it would have been a

really good.

Tyler was still standing next to

the guy who probably would have.

Like, I don't know.

I know it seems like he moved

kind of quick.

I don't think you thought much.

I don't think it was.

There was much thought put it.

Yeah, I don't think he liked

surveyed, the room here.

Yeah but he's probably Palmer

sighs.

Yeah.

But some and well, the fact that

big guy, the fact that he looked

at a guy six-foot-four, 300-plus

pounds and decided, I'm gonna

throw a punch at this

motherfucker.

But you were alone.

I was alone.

Yeah, I was alone.

I had him meet you guy next to

me.

Had you not been alone?

Charlie that would have made it

worse.

Scratch, your eyes out is like

kicking his ass and I'm stealing

her.

There's a reason why we're

number one, take a date with me.

Look, I have taken taking He's

never here is a reason why we

are number one.

I could ever do have money still

to obviously talk about Viking

lawyer, of course, give me your

wench with out clubbing.

You boils, your woman is mine.

Hmm.

So yeah I don't know.

This is how I feel.

Well listen, you should be

happy.

You got the exclusive I am but I

am happy.

I am, you know what?

I'm happy that you're letting it

go and just kind of moving

forward because I was upset

that, you know, you weren't at

that last conversation that we

had one lesson 8.

There were a lot of factors in

it.

One of them being we're a guest

and somebody Cigar Lounge, I

mean, that's insane to pull

that.

That wasn't the place for me to

be confronted.

I mean, you want to State your

your case to me I don't know

why, right?

I don't care.

I like you know other than those

are my friends.

I don't give a shit right, that

wasn't the place at an Espinosa

event.

That wasn't the place to do it,

and then throwing a punch in

somebody's Lounge.

Yeah.

Oh, now this Week.

Here we are again.

We got them right now.

At Big Smoke next week.

I'm pretty sure they're with me

again at ug fast in Dallas.

Oh, oh wow.

What about Great Smoke?

I don't know if they're part of

Great Smoke.

Are you going to be there?

I'll be there will do I'll be

there in two 5-minute warning,

that is my five men and five

minute warning and then what.

So the funny thing is that my

phone is always on private,

right from 10 p.m. to 7 a.m., if

you call me and you're not on my

end and the only people, they're

my family.

There's four people that can

make a phone call to me at that

time.

So, if the phone rings at that

time, oh shit, it could be

trouble right when I was at and

at the tpe I get up about At

6:00 6:15 in the morning.

One of the times I was in line

at Starbucks and I missed

because it goes to private, a

text message from Eric, you

know, get me a cappuccino that

type of stuff I missed it

because and I said, fuck it.

I took it off a private.

I can't figure out how to put it

back on primary, so it's three

in the morning.

When Skipper, Chuck over here is

texting me, yeah, it was wide

awake at 3 wide awake at 3:00 in

the morning in the Day's Night,

right?

And not only three in the

morning because I responded to

his his text at 7:00 in the

morning and he responded right

away.

Yeah.

So he's just Started three.

Yeah.

So my this thing lights up my

room at 3:00 in the morning, my

wife, freaks out.

Somebody in the end I had to

tell her no, no, I took it off

Friday's 88.

Don't worry about it.

Don't worry about it's it's a

problem to know.

I'm nuts up there and San Juan

Del Sur the monkeys want to know

what's going on.

That's when, you know he's mine,

I'm not.

So you wouldn't raise all of our

how-to videos lately.

So I thought was invited to the

wedding, we're all members, he

wasn't, we're all member, he was

actually legitimately about

that.

It was that the weather all

members of the fan.

So we I'm not defending anybody.

I know.

I'm just fucking with Jack.

Ha ha.

Hey, listen about three minutes

and now let's give ha little

time.

Yeah, actually, I'm glad to be

here.

So tell us more about yourself.

Ha, ha ha, don't worry.

So what happened with Heckle and

Jeckle?

Let me ask you that Heckle and

Jeckle was a strictly covid

function codes over and me and

Jack being the smart guides that

we are.

I think, after one of our last

guest, was half tournament.

We better stop doing this.

Yeah, getting in trouble.

It's all inside.

Baseball.

Yeah.

Until it's not.

And then I got, you know, right.

Well, I feel like you guys kind

of broke up.

You went rogue for like the last

one?

No, no.

That was just so I was trying

to.

It was a brand thing.

I was just trying to do, but

it's just, you can't.

But it is he listened, like it

or not information flows.

Through ha office, we have

access to a lot of things that

are happening and one of us was

going to say something stupid on

that Heckle and Jeckle.

And one who says one of us, it

was going to be him, right?

Possibly, because judge, I don't

disagree.

That is a great and we know a

lot of people and a lot of

people have a lot of confidence

in those.

Yeah, and they said well who's

watching?

It's not how many people are

watching.

It's that one guy was watching,

right?

Because the Tipping Point who

knows everybody else and we were

just going to get jacked up.

So anyway, covid-19

When end of the day and the good

thing is, it's over, and I'm

glad that it's over.

You no longer get a start up

again tomorrow.

He's kidding, I'm coming, I see.

This is why her habitual line

stepper ritual.

It's what I do.

Yeah, don't do it being spoken.

My jacket are not to be taken

seriously or not.

This is way more on our show.

Don't worry go.

Yeah, yeah, but only protect you

two idiots.

The guest and the guest and the

guest, you obviously have one of

them is the one who says that's

fine.

Yeah, that's good.

It's in there.

It's in the third.

It's all in entertainment.

We're all here to just have a

good time.

Just relax.

Iron skillet.

Ashtrays are cute.

They are very they were sent to

us from a fan.

Yeah.

Because we say you can't fuck

with her pots and pans.

Yeah.

So he sent his pants and this

pants and you kept up with them,

can't fuck with them.

All right.

Well, I have to cut this.

Thank you so much for coming on

if you want to do.

The pantheon Pantry on, you

know, I'm an placenta I'm and we

can do that.

I just got to do a quick

reading, Rob names on that show.

All right, okay.

So let's, let's let me do my

meeting and then I don't know.

We could always dumb it down.

We can pull out, pull a Mike, if

we have to But let's just close

this and take his he didn't

hardly talk.

Yes anyway let's close this up I

don't want to say any on

Pantheon.

All right, thank you.

All right, thanks again, a cigar

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