Cigar Hustlers Podcast 285 Wet Paint
Episode Summary
Episode 285 of A Cigar Hustler's Podcast opens with hosts Mike Szczepankiewicz ("The King") and Mike "Reverend BDP" Palmer calling up a listener who bought an A Rack Above garage storage system, then unboxing media T-shirts sent over by Aaron "Fishstick" Loomis of Developing Palates. From there the guys wade into the week's industry drama: "Paintgate," the controversy swirling around Brian at Privada Cigar Club and the feeling of being shut out of the Room 101 Daruma release. Rather than air the whole thing on the free feed, they tease a full breakdown — evidence and opinions included — for Patreon subscribers, while using the moment to talk honestly about allocation, favoritism, and how they personally prioritize West Coast retailers (Casper Cigars, Small Batch Cigar, 3-in-1 Cigars) because shipping takes longer.
The news segment runs through the wave of PCA 2023 announcements: Black Star Line Cigars' Rosewood 1923, a 6x48 Corona made at Fábrica Oveja Negra with a Mexican San Andrés wrapper, Ecuadorian binder and Dominican/Nicaraguan filler at $12.99, honoring the 100th anniversary of the Rosewood Massacre; Crowned Heads' La Pisier No. 2 as a PCA exclusive; Drunken Chicken Cigars' annual Homicidal Hen 2023 (5.5x50 Robusto Extra, Pennsylvania broadleaf wrapper, 5,000 cigars, $14 MSRP, shipping end of July); and Oscar Valladares' Leaf by Oscar 10th Anniversary Criollo plus a new Connecticut for The Oscar line. The hosts also revisit the still-unreleased Padrón/Fuente collaboration and the Powstanie–Padrón project, both of which dominated headlines and then went quiet, and note Foundation's Charter Oak Heartbreaker distribution news that the show broke the prior week.
Cigar talk centers on "the year of the Connecticut" — why Connecticut broadleaf is scarce (much of it going to blunt wrap and cannabis use) and why so many brands are filling out their mild-to-medium slots. Mike makes no secret of his confidence in the forthcoming Powstanie Connecticut, argues the Toro is the best vitola in the line, and praises the RoMa Craft Volstead (a Sumatra-wrapped blend he says doesn't taste like a Sumatra at all). They react to Halfwheel's 84-point review of the Powstanie Connecticut from Patrick Lagreid, joking about the outlet's recurring combustion-issue findings, and discuss the new Powstanie War Bear box-pressed Corona Gorda. The episode closes with a call to Tobacology (Shop of the Week) covering the Volstead, Skip Martin, PCA plans, and a Renaissance-costume dinner idea, plus Miguel Rocha as Listener of the Week and Florida's latest oddity: a black bear swimming at Destin beach.
In This Episode
- 01Sponsor call-in and listener shout-outThe hosts ring up "Sweet Pea" to congratulate her on buying an A Rack Above overhead garage storage system as a Father's Day gift.
- 02Developing Palates care packageAaron "Fishstick" Loomis sends the crew media T-shirts, prompting jokes about only two shirts for a three-person show.
- 03Paintgate and allocation politicsThe guys address the industry's "Paintgate" controversy involving Privada and the Room 101 Daruma, and talk candidly about favoritism and how they allocate their own releases.
- 04PCA 2023 release roundupNews on Black Star Line's Rosewood 1923, Crowned Heads' La Pisier No. 2, Drunken Chicken's Homicidal Hen 2023, and Oscar Valladares' Leaf by Oscar 10th Anniversary and Oscar Connecticut.
- 05The year of the ConnecticutWhy Connecticut broadleaf is scarce, why brands are chasing mild-to-medium blends, and Mike's confidence in the upcoming Powstanie Connecticut.
- 06Padrón/Fuente and Powstanie collaborationsA look at the big collaboration announcements that dominated last year's show and then vanished without a release.
- 07Halfwheel review reactionDiscussion of the 84-point Halfwheel review of the Powstanie Connecticut and the outlet's habit of finding combustion issues.
- 08Shop of the Week call: TobacologyA phone call covering the RoMa Craft Volstead, Skip Martin, PCA plans, and the difference between a dealer and a 'killer.'
Brands & Cigars Discussed
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Transcript
Welcome to the Cigar Hustlers Podcast, Episode 285, where we bring you the latest news and insights from the world of premium cigars. In this episode, we dive into the big stories of the week. We'll also discuss the latest cigar releases, trends, and hot topics in the cigar world, and share our thoughts and opinions on everything cigar-related. The King, Mike Szczevankewicz, and Reverend BDP, Mike Palmer are two dynamic individuals who co-host the Captivating Cigar Hustlers podcast.
With their unique perspectives and vast knowledge of the cigar industry, they offer a truly engaging and insightful experience for cigar enthusiasts and novices alike. And me, I'm Phil, your cameraman. So grab your favorite smoke, sit back, and join us for another exciting episode of the Cigar Hustlers podcast. All right, nice.
Yeah, that was nice. That was lovely. In front of a live studio audience. One, please.
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com. where you can now purchase through the website. Wow. So I would imagine pricing's on there too.
Are we going to call that person for that thing or no? Let's do it. We didn't set it up. I'm sure you could just ring ring.
You think so? Yeah. Okay. What is the person going to...
What happens if they're... What are they going to tell us? I now clicked and I bought one. Well, no, no, no.
Because there's the deal if you call in. What's the deal if you call in? " Right, he sees it. Oh, they still get the same thing that they ordered online?
Yeah, they have to order online. They can't call us an order. All right, well, let's call her. But if she's sitting home waiting on us to finish the purchase...
Uh-oh. I don't know how you say her real name. I'm not calling it Sweepy. Oh, okay.
Hello? Hello? Hello? Hello, Sweepy!
Hello. Uh oh, this sounds like trouble. Did you fall down? Don't let you fall down.
Is now a good time to talk to you real quickly? We are good. We're good to go. Quickly, quickly.
All right, so, Sweet Pea, congratulations on making your purchase. You're about, you know, you're making your purchase on A Rack Above. I heard it's gonna be a Father's Day present this upcoming weekend. Yes.
I already went online and took up the logo and put it on a piece of paper. But you didn't look hard. That is fantastic. " Yeah, we could totally work that out.
He's not even a dad, so he's got downtime. Oh, right! Not like he's busy. Oh, yeah, that's true.
Yeah. We should set that up. I don't think he owns any cats. He's not even a cat dad.
Not even a cat. A dog, a dog. Definitely doesn't have a dog. He has motorcycles.
He has a motorcycle. He can show up in the Arakabove 4Runner. So, because you're going to make this purchase, we are going to hook you up with some awesome And we also have some cigars as well. Nice.
I don't know, you don't have to include that in the Father's Day present. No, those can be for you. Yeah, they can be for you. Yeah, we're not going to show that part.
Yeah, that's fantastic. Okay, hopefully he doesn't listen. Hey, where are my cigars? Well, Sweet Pea, we just wanted to reach out.
I know that we've been threatening to do this for about three weeks, so I'm glad that we found the time. A lot of scheduling problems. Made it work out. Just wanted to say thank you so much for supporting A Rack Above and supporting the show as always.
And we truly appreciate you, and we're going to give you some goodies to show our appreciation. Well, I look forward to it, because right now my garage is very, very messy. Excellent. Oh, it's going to be all straightened out.
It's going to be a big different change, and then I don't have to run all the way up to the top to the attic to get stuff down. Right. It will be a little closer. Exactly.
I'm sure you take a picture before and after and send it to us, and we'll put it on the show. Yeah, absolutely. We'll do. All right, darling, sweet pea.
Thank you again. We love you. Okay. Bye, guys.
Bye, honey. Bye. Sweet pea. Sweet pea, buying a rack above.
People better hurry. He's going to get sold out. You should probably get yourself a rack above. Just saying.
Pronto. Now. Pronto. Yeah, now.
So. So, thank you for listening. This has been episode 285. Well, we got a couple things to address.
First of all... Uh-oh. Oh, we have a... I was on How About That Cigar last night, I mean, we record before, and I'm going to tell you right now, I said some shit, I addressed some things, I addressed some things, so I highly recommend if you didn't listen last night, you go back and you listen to How About That Cigar.
Was it being released today or was it released last night? They do it live. They go live Monday nights. Oh.
But then you can hear it afterwards. Yeah. Oh, okay. On all the major platforms, and I believe it's on YouTube.
Yeah, you can just skip over the sports jargon that they talk about at first. Yeah, the first 15, 20 minutes, it's a sports show. It's all about it. Are you going to talk a minute?
Do you know anything about Minnesota sports? And just ignore their sponsors, because they're all shit anyways. I mean, you know, they're not important, is what I'm saying. Right.
Well, it's that one, and then there's the other one, and the one we're still waiting on pricing from. Yeah. It's crazy. So we have a box.
Yes. You took the tag off. So, no, it's on this side. Oh, it looks like it tore up the top.
It's from Aaron Loomis. Ooh. Aaron Fishstick Loomis. Oh.
Developing palettes. And I'm sure the cigar surgeon as well, John McTavish. I'm sure John McTavish was the silent person making sure that this went down. Please.
I believe Phil got fucked though. Oh, did he? Please be. Of course, they did that last time too.
Oh, even the colors. Yeah. No, no, we haven't got anything from these guys before. Yeah.
So we have two colors. You were the blue one. I was the blue one. Yes.
Look at this. Ah, nice. Camera three. He's not going to turn.
He's going to turn the camera. How many shirts are there? Camera three. How many shirts?
There's two shirts. There's two shirts. I just stopped recording. Come on, come on.
We wear those next week. Ah, look at that. Nice. We are collecting media t-shirts at this point.
Unbelievable. Oh, you went black because everything with you is black. Yes. I was really going for the Fishtick, man.
So, Aaron Fishtick Loomis, thank you very much. We appreciate that. It took a little over two years. We're the only show that wears other shows clothes in our show.
Yeah. Free advertisement. That's right. Well, when you're number one, you spread around the love of love.
Yeah, you gotta show the support. You gotta support the boys, you know? We could do movie magic and just change real quick. Click.
Right. Yeah, and this show brought to you by... Developing Palates. Oh, no.
Oh, no. What? No, he was doing a thing. Oh, you were doing John McTavish.
Yeah, he was doing a thing. We haven't used that in a while. Yeah, where is that? Where is that?
That should have came on when he opened the box. There it is. Like, oh, no. Like, oh, no.
" To the PCA. Well, did you see? I purchased the ad space behind John McTavish. Right.
" Oh, I didn't understand. Yeah. So, I took care of that. Well, so there's a little bit of controversy going on in the cigar industry.
You know, I was completely oblivious until somebody brought it up to me, and now I know everything. Yeah, there's a whole thing. Controversy. There's a lot going on.
Two t-shirts, not three. It's crazy. Two t-shirts, not three. I believe there are three people on the show.
Hey, you know, it's tough. They're running a tough budget. As you already know, media doesn't pay well. You know what I mean?
I see why. I mean, look, we had to make your match this month. We couldn't even afford to buy one. -Yeah, it's tough.
-We can find developing palettes on his floor. -I'll put that on there with Sharpie for you. -I can put a vinyl on there. -Oh, it's fine for a vinyl.
-Oh, perfect. -So, there's a thing going around called Paintgate. -Yes, Paintgate. -Paintgate.
-Now, was it started by Privada, or did they just grab hold of it? -I don't know. I don't know where it began. -I don't know the origins?
-You know, and I'm gonna tell you right now, We'll address the full story, my entire opinion, your breakdown, and Phil's as well. Well, Phil's not on the Patreon. Or Boots is as well. We'll let Boots come in then.
Oh, this is going on the Patreon? We're going to put it on the Patreon. Oh, nice. Of course, we're going to really talk shit.
Evidence and all sorts of stuff. Yeah, we're going to need some support, so our Patreon listeners will get the full details. But I'm going to tell you this. com We recommend a Cigar Hustlers podcast.
$15, you get the video. Yeah. We would appreciate the support. We're very grateful for those that have supported us in the past and continue to support us.
And we hope that more of you join and care what we have to say. And with all the new cigars releasing at some point. Oh, yeah. We review cigars.
Review cigars. You give discounts on cigars? Yeah, we do give discounts. We do give discounts.
So, I'm going to tell you this. One of the things that really upset Brian at Privada, was that he felt that everybody had gotten this Room 101 Daruma cigar, and he was kind of shut out from it. Oh, because he didn't get them? Right.
Right. Well, he doesn't normally get that kind of stuff, does he? No, he does. He totally does.
Oh, does he? Yeah, you know. I thought he just peddled his stuff. No, he's got a website, and he promotes everybody else's stuff, and I'm sure that he- Does he carry our stuff?
He does. Oh, I didn't know that. So, thank you, Brian. Yeah.
Yeah. Thanks, Brian. So, you know, I feel like there's a little miscommunication there because I could tell you that I didn't get my Daruma stuff either. No, yeah, we don't have any.
You know, and I definitely ordered some. So, but I do, you know, is there, if you want to talk about, is there favoritism? Right. In the realm of the cigar industry?
Isn't there that with every big company? Yeah, it's a thing. It's a thing, man. You know, and I can't argue against that.
If somebody has been supporting Room 101 since the dawn of time. Right. I would understand that they got their shit. Really good friends with Matt Booth or used to be, I guess.
Yeah. Oh, so, you know, I get I understand that. Right. You know, right.
So if there wasn't your favorites as well that you ship first. Oh, no, you sure. I mean, you know what? I actually look at things from a logical standpoint.
They're in alphabetical order. Crazy alphabetical. So what I try to do is the I'll try my best to do is address the people on the west coast first. Oh, that's right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because the shipping is longer. Yeah, because it takes them longer to get the product. Right. So like Casper Cigars, Small Batch, those dudes, they're all the way out there.
Right. You know, 3-in-1, gotta give Ricky a shout out. I'm not familiar with 3-in-1. Rick Rodriguez?
Oh, Rick Rodriguez. Not Louis Rodriguez. Ricky in Tampa, Ricky? No, totally different Ricky.
Totally different Ricky. Totally different Ricky. Ricky, no. Sorry.
So, I mean, those guys are all good dudes, and if they order the product, I do my best to make sure that they get it first. That's true, we do do that, yes. Right, but you just don't ask somebody that you just ship to first. Yeah, I'm not like, hey, you're my dude, I try to make it as equal as I possibly can.
I mean, it's never gonna be perfect. All about the equal. Yeah. Right.
You're known for that. I'm Notorious. I'm Notorious, yeah. Oh, that'd be, we should do that.
do that? The Tori CGR. No, no. Draw a name from a hat.
Just start doing a Facebook Live of that. Throw a dart at the board, Facebook Live. There you go. Get a big map.
Who will get it first? Get a big map. Who gets it first? Wow.
You get a golden ticket and you, or whatever. You get the Connecticut's. Oh, there you go. The golden Connecticut's.
No, it's not me. No, it's not me. It was Phil. Fucking Phil.
I got this new watch and it freaking rings. It's the same watch you've always had. No, I got it yesterday. You got a sign with it.
What happened to the old ones? I traded it in. There's a silence option. Why did you trade it in?
What, did it stop telling time? They say the new one can read your blood pressure. Oh. So you want to take your blood pressure?
Of course. How much was the new one? Ballpark. It was $150 more.
It was like $4 a month. Oh, so you pay monthly. For less than $150, my watch tells my blood pressure. So you tell monthly.
You do monthly payments. Yes. Interesting. I got the two or something.
Whatever one was the first one that was waterproof? That's two. That's what my wife has two. That's what I got.
So I bought this. It's called the Series A. " And then I looked last night. There's an Ultimate.
Yeah. There's a newer one. " They all lie. They're like car salesmen.
Yeah. Ben from Luxury was showing me the Ultimate. " Yeah, it's huge. What's that one do?
Oh, really? Big? Yeah. Yeah, it's like 49 millimeters or something.
What's it do that the new one doesn't do? It tells time faster. Oh. Oh.
Yeah, before it clicks. Yeah. Oh! Exciting!
Well, I mean, you know, what's funny is sometimes this thing doesn't update for me, like I try and look at the screen, see what's going on, and I'm like, son of a bitch, just fucking work, but I'm not... Well, the new one also... It works enough, you know what I mean? It's like my shoes, they work enough.
You know how, like, on yours, you have to click, like, the little heart to see your heart rate? Yeah. Well, the new one is on your main screen now, and it tells you your heart rate, like, right now. " It could.
" You know, I've seen a lot of people lately have, they have like the needle plugged into the back of their arm so they can wing their phone and they can know their insulin levels and shit. That's cool. I don't know if I want it sticking in my arm. Yeah, I see it a lot.
Yeah, I do see it a lot too. So anyways, does it just measure or does it give you the medicine too? No, measures. Just measures?
Yeah. You think that you just like put it on the back of your watch, it'll be stuck in your wrist when you put the watch? Ooh, God, that's gotta be uncomfortable. Why?
There's not a lot of fat here. Oh, I guess as you move. Okay, maybe that's why they don't do it. Yeah.
Maybe a microchip. Yeah, there you go. So, mine's got these lights behind it. So, what'd you do this weekend?
You hang out in your house and you cut your grass? Sunday, we went to Swamp House. Oh, I saw it. I did see a picture.
Yeah. Megan came over for the day. The girls sat outside for a little while, and then we went to Swamp House. Nice.
That's our summer place. We usually go there on Sundays in the summertime. The new Oasis is open up soon. Is that the place in Sanford?
At the marina, yeah. I think it is open now because they were going to go there, but I don't have good memories associated with that place. So it's completely redone. Yeah, she saw pictures of it online.
You don't have good memories. I want to know. No, it was a bad place. I want to know.
It was a bad place. Like rough crowds. Yeah. Did you get the shit kicked out of you?
It was like 2002 spring breaks today. It's like too spring break style. Yeah. Were you raped there?
No, no. Drunk people everywhere. Yeah. You notice nobody gets out of the pool all day long.
Oh, there's a pool. Oh, there's a pool. Outside. It's an outside bar pool.
There's a lot of pee in. Yeah, you're like, you know, nobody got out of the pool in the last six hours we were here. Yeah. There's a lot of beer consumed in that pool too.
A lot of beer in that pool. Yeah. I mean, the waitresses wait on you while you're in the pool. I mean, they bring the tray and they bend over and hand you the beer.
So they said they called it the pee pool. And the food, the food. You could. Bar foods, not even bar food, it's a little less than bar food.
Oh. Well, two guys from Miami bought it. Yeah. Did they?
Yeah. I thought you had a friend that used to own it or something. No, no, I had a friend that DJs there. Oh, that's what it was.
So, two guys from Miami bought it. They put over a million dollars in the renovation. I've asked already. Yeah.
They don't have a signed DJ yet. Oh. So, it was renovated like two years ago, too. Yeah.
So, those people, so what ended up happening is those people never pulled permits and it caught up to them. Oh. So then they had to sell because the fines were, like, increasing? That guy banned us one year.
Oh, really? Because it was a drunk lady there with her kids and we made a post on the thing because they just kept serving this lady shots and drinks and where kids are frog clean in the shallow end. And we made a post or something about it and so they banned us. Not like they would ever know who we were if we went back anyway.
You, sir, are not permitted back here. I went there one time at night when I used to ride my bike with another guy. You snuck in? No, no, no, this was before.
This was before the first renovation. Yeah. I mean, it was like naked whores jumping in and out of the pool, bikers, practically, you know, lighting things and throwing them up in the air and then it was really rough that night. So, yeah.
So, yeah, so I don't, I don't, I don't want to go there. You should retry it. It's, there's better food now. There's an actual chef there.
Yeah. And now they have like Miami style cabanas everywhere. So people are peeing in the cabanas now. Phil is all about the nightlife, man.
He's a... Well, it's daytime. No, it's daytime, bro. This is all about the daylight.
This is a daytime thing. It's all about... It's a great day drinking place. He gets a funny tan line from the mask, though.
Come on drinking. Right. Right. He's about that life.
We were gonna make the day drinking thing a yearly thing. We talked about that a couple of weeks ago, then we just sort of let it go. Amen. We did that one day drinking where his wife had to come save him.
Right. And I got in trouble because he put chips all over the floor. Oh. And I disappeared.
It was you eating the chips. I remember that much. My wife couldn't find me and I was passed out in the house. He does weird shit like that.
He's got a cigar left out front of my house. I just found it a couple days ago. How do you know it's me? Because I saw you put it down.
On your camera? No, I open the door. You put the cigar down on the ledge. You love cigars too a lot.
No, I throw them in the mulch. Yeah, he's got an area. I got a collection that I throw out. Okay.
If you walk up to the garage, it's to the left, around the side. Was it a Powstanie cigar? Yes, it was. They're always Powstanie cigars.
It could have been me. It was 100% you. Okay, it could have been me. If it was a liver cigar.
So he does that. And he'll leave glasses and shit. He does that here. Leave glasses?
Yeah, he leaves shit around all the place. Wow. It's either you or that Boots guy. We don't know which one it is.
I think it might be. It's more Boots. It might be Boots. It feels cleaner.
It feels a little more meticulous. Yeah, I think so. Boots isn't here to defend themselves. That's all right.
So, okay, so you went out. You had a good time. Yeah. I drank too much, but you know.
You drank too much? I had a lot of acid reflux last night. Oh boy. Do you need to take a Prilosec?
No. I forgot. I don't understand why people do that. Prilosecs?
If you know that the pill's gonna work, why don't you just take the pill? When you run out of them, then you don't think they'll go buy some more for a couple of days. I have that argument with Brittany, and I'll have her call in next week. She's like, oh, I got a headache.
I'm like, did you take any Advil? No, I will. I'm like, the fuck? They love to suffer.
I'm like, I don't understand what's going on here. Oh, my wife will do that. " It's got a little bit of relief. Nothing over the top.
You want the one? Well, I went to Brian McKnight. Boots invited me out for the concert. Yes, yes.
I'm sorry that you weren't there. That's all right. But, you know, maybe next time you come. Maybe next time you're included.
Maybe. Who knows? We'll see. we'll see where you stand on that but it was cool my ranking goes up or not yeah yeah you know I ran into my primary doctor along the way which was nice Chris Baldwin?
no no oh my legitimate oh your real doctor Dr. " Right, fine, I'll check you. We'll do a prostate check right here. God knows not the first time.
Honey, give me the lube out of your purse. Yeah. So I saw him. He's a good guy.
The show, the guy's pretty good. Yeah? For 54 years old. I don't know my name, but I saw some of the videos and I recognize the song.
Yeah, he's got a couple of songs that are pretty good hits. And then he busted out Whitney Houston. Whitney Houston. Oh, I have nothing if I don't have you.
Oh, I mean, he's saying it pretty good. Yeah. He skipped one, one part. He like, you stepped away from the mic, which was a good fucking move.
There's no way he nails it. Oh, he's not hitting that note. Yeah. The guy can hit, guy can sing.
Right. But I mean, Whitney Houston was special. You know what I mean? Right.
So it was all the crack. Well, hey, you know, I don't look, just show me the baby. I don't know. I don't care how we get there.
I don't care how we get there. Just show me the fucking baby. And she did. I mean, she was amazing.
And he did a great job of it, a great little rendition of it. It takes some balls to do one of her songs. I know. I mean, I said, is he fucking about to sing this song?
Is he gonna... Is this happening? Does he know about the note at the end? You know, and he did a pretty good job.
Oh, we have the fog rolling in now from London coming across the camera. No, it's Canada. Oh, it's Canada. Oh, Canada.
Oh, I saw that. It's terrible up in New York. Yeah, now they're all gonna move here. No, they're not.
Uh, yoga lights down to like two weeks or something. We have, no, no, we have meth and alligators. Oh, we have something new, we have a new Florida story. They could do that.
Who did we give, oh, did we give the alligator meth? No, no, no, there's something new at the beach you got to watch out for. The bear swimming. Yeah.
If you think for one second, alligators and meth is going to scare off New Yorkers. I think it will. Do you know that the, what was it, the, um, um, crap, very good, never mind. Some Scandinavian country used to give crack to their soldiers.
Really? Pharmaceutical grade. Makes them crazy. Was it cracker or was it methamphetamine?
It was meth, sorry, yeah, meth. Hell yeah, you ain't stopping a fucking squad of people on meth, that's not, I mean, they may shoot each other, but, you know, fuck yeah, you could fucking cut off their arm, they're still coming. It's a red soldier. Well, one guy, they gave it to one, the story was, they gave it to this one guy to carry 'cause he didn't want to take it, but he got lost, so he went to take it, but all the pills were stuck together 'cause they froze, so he just took all of 'em.
Oh, shit. And then he lost like three weeks worth of time, but in that three weeks he stepped on a landmine, blew off a foot, a door blew up in a cabin and threw him back, he laid there for a couple days, thought he was gonna die, then he just got up and hobbled back over. Wow. Superman.
Basically, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This guy was skiing around on one foot in the snow.
That's why it's best to shoot meth heads in the head. You know, that's why we call them meth heads. Yeah. You gotta take them out like zombies.
You know what I mean? Right. He thought he attacked a Wolverine and turned out to be a log. He tried to stab it with his compass and broke his compass, so then he couldn't find his way back.
Oh, man. Jeez. Meth. That's a hell of a joke.
The problems they used to have. Right. They saw him take it, so they're like, oh, quick, take all his bullets. So he's fighting, click, click, click, thinking he's shooting bad guys.
Oh, wait, they were watching him in this adventure. Right. They were just bored. Take the meth.
Take the meth. Watch that. The war is over. Keep going.
You must take all the meth. Take all of it now. all right well before we get to the news do we have any phil fun facts or anything something not racist by any chance yeah the god oh i meant to do i gotta do music for phil's fun yeah i want the american gladiator thing it's in my head oh really something close to it so we're doing so we don't get sued yeah yeah yeah hello peoples peoples all right so this one is titled smoking Mocking cigars might be healthier than smoking cigarettes. Oh, that's obvious.
Everybody knows that. While cigar smoking certainly isn't part of any health program, the American Cancer Society states that cigars have much fewer toxins than cigarettes. Yeah, no shit. Meaning that cigar smokers might enjoy their nicotine fixes without worrying about lung cancer.
Huh. I'm not reading the second part. Is it racist? No.
Oh. No, I didn't do this one. No, I didn't do this one. No, I didn't do this one.
Balance is the key, people. He's going to leave their ass apart. Balance is the key. Don't do too many of them.
Well, I was reading like over the weekend, like, 'cause I always like research things about me dying or something. Oh, you went down that rabbit hole. Yeah, yeah. He's on WebMD too.
Okay. So, they say like... I mean, I can set up an appointment with Dr. John.
Yeah, call him right now. Yeah. Meet him on the bridge, he'll give you the... Yeah, that's how he finds out if you've smoked too many cigars.
Right. Everybody knows it makes your prostate swell. No, they say if you only smoke like one to three a day, you're fine, but if you smoke more than three a day. Yeah.
Does it have to be like several days in a row? Because like Saturday, I had four, but Sunday I had one. I'm going to tell you right now, you're full of shit, but go ahead. They say it increases your chances by 2%.
Okay. Eh. I like those. Yeah, I'll roll the dice here.
Who did this research? Yeah, well, so like, I'm kind of curious. I'd like to see the, the scientific data, like the page of the research that they actually took that actually shows where they tracked people that consume more than three a day and what actually triggered the belief of some of either heart condition or whatever, you know, I think it was lung cancer. So how do you track that?
How do you track in a research platform? Oh, here's, I mean, did you scan them for a tumor? Well, the other thing is, like, how do you know about, like, what's their family history? Yeah, right, there's a lot of factors.
Maybe it works in an asbestos factor. I mean, from a, from a logical standpoint, if you have, even if you have unhealthy blood, but you exercise on a regular basis, you still have a better chance of living than a person that has really good blood and doesn't exercise. Right. Right?
Right. So... What are you trying to say? I'm slated to outlive both of you.
Probably. Hopefully, Boots works out, but Phil doesn't. No. Yeah.
No. Yeah. So there's that. But genetically, I'm a fucking mess.
Oh, there you go then. Yeah, but they say everything skips a generation. Well, it didn't skip this generation. That's not true.
Yeah, no. My grandmother lost her mind, dad lost his, now mom's losing hers, so I'm pretty much on the way. I'm doing these games- You gotta start doing the red light therapy, man. Oh yeah, I'm doing these games on my phone at night, brain things.
Yeah. Trying to keep- Honestly, dude, you should go look into this red light therapy. It's just red light therapy shit. Yeah, you mentioned, I meant to look that up.
It's not that expensive, it's maybe a couple hundred bucks for a decent one, and I'm gonna tell you, if you do it, it relaxes you and it'll put you to sleep. You know, they do say too, though, that people with high anxiety normally don't have a lot of health issues later on in life. Oh, great. Well, that's great, you have high anxiety.
I know, but I would rather not have that. Does he have, you have high anxiety? What? What?
I don't think you really have high anxiety. Yeah, he does. Well, people with high anxiety can focus super well on something. Yeah.
People with high anxiety do a lot of different things at one time. Oh, I have, what's that new disease I found out I had from the guy on the TV show? ADHD. Yeah, I have ADHD.
Do you? I have all the symptoms. I don't... Super focused.
Well, everybody had all the symptoms of COVID, too, but I don't... I had that twice. Two and a half times. I don't buy that for a second.
I don't buy that for a second. All right, ready for the news? Yeah. From the four corners of the world, all the cigar industry news you could possibly need.
Here comes the Cigar Hustler Podcast Report with Mike Toon. As we're getting closer to the PCA, more releases are being announced. This week's PCA announcements. Black Starline Cigars is releasing Rosewood 1923.
Excited about that one. I like Eric. He's doing the other one too. It's a firefighter one.
A smoke eater or some shit like that. Yeah, that looks good too. It's good too. Black Starlight Cigars is turning to Fabrica Oveja Negra for its newest line, which honors the 100th anniversary of the Rosewood Massacre.
Rosewood 1923 is a new line that will debut a 6x48 Corona. 6x48? Yes. It uses a Mexican San Andres wrapper over an Ecuadorian binder and fillers from the Dominican Republic and Nicaragua.
99, and it's a regular production item that will be offered in boxes and bundles of 20 cigars. You know, so look, I think that that's fantastic. It's got, Erik's got story behind his product. Right.
He's a fucking go-getter. He works his ass off. Right. So, you know, his feet are doing much better too.
He's working on his bunions. Firefighter feet. Yeah. Firefighter feet's doing much better.
So, I'm excited. I think that this could be, both of these cigars could be. It's his year. Let's not get crazy.
It's the year of Postana, Connecticut. Without fucking question. There's a lot of Connecticut's coming out. Yeah.
And I'm gonna tell you right now that none of them are gonna fucking taste like mine. I have a question about that. Not even close. I'm just a, you know...
Novice? Yeah. Ninja Turtle? Lost in this world?
So my question is... Tell me. Was there like an abundance of Connecticut tobacco where everybody was like... We actually had this chat a couple of weeks ago.
There was a lack of something else, with the Broadleaf? Yeah, so Broadleaf is missing, and there isn't a ton of it right now in market. Mm-hmm. So, I think that realistically, you know, what really kind of happens is, one, that, right, and two, you, as you're kind of going about building a brand, you look for something that you're kind of missing.
So, if you're missing that mild to medium cigar. Which a lot of brands do. They go with the bigger, heavier stuff first. Yeah, they do your San Andreas, they do your Broadleaf or something like that.
So, I'm sorry. Go ahead. So are the farms controlling the industry or are the brands? Is the tail wagging the dog?
Is that what you're saying? Good question. Well, here's what's happening with the Connecticut Broadleaf. A lot of that stuff is actually being sold to marijuana companies and shit.
Blunt wraps and stuff. They've moved around. Oh, I get you. Yeah, that's been a problem for a while now.
And, you know, weed is way more socially acceptable at this point than cigars. We're the black sheep of the industry. Right. Unless you're a successful celebrity or athlete who has just won the NBA finals because we'll see the cigars there.
Right. Or, you know, um, you can't buy these anywhere else, but they have them. Yeah. No, I mean, you know, it's, it's so funny because I do see the cigars there.
Right. Or, you know, um, you can't buy these anywhere else, but they have them. Yeah. No, I mean, you know, it's, it's so funny because I do I do it every year.
Whenever somebody wins a thing, I'm always staring at what are they smoking? You know, like, oh, oh, you know, sometimes it's Padrones. If it was, if Miami wins, it'll be Padrones. Because they're in Miami.
Fuck yeah, without question. They will be there. You know what I mean? Somebody in the Padrone family will make sure that they get set up with something dope, right?
I know that when New England won, they were smoking Padrones. They had a beautiful, uh, Patriot. Well, I think they have a, uh, yeah, they have that cigar bar inside the stadium, don't they? I have no idea.
In Foxboro? I thought they did. I didn't see that there. I could tell you that the one that really kind of fucked with me was the year of the bubble.
2020, when LeBron won, I'm sure that you didn't have access to a lot of shit. They were smoking in Undercrown shades. I almost fell out of my fucking chair. I'm like, holy shit, what is going on?
We couldn't smuggle something else into the bubble? This was the epitome of championship caliber? That's what they were selling at the Publix. The closest I don't think is you couldn't get out.
You weren't allowed to leave. You had to, there was the bubble. They sent the runner. He's the runner.
They were leaving, remember? Don't you remember the scandal? No, man, when somebody left, they got... Yeah, somebody had some.
If somebody left, they got fucked, man. Does Disney sell cigars? On certain hotel properties, they do. Well, maybe that's what it was.
Yeah, or at least they used to. I don't know, maybe recently, maybe they don't, but... Yeah, after the bubble. They used to.
After they showed the cigars on TV. Oh. Ugh. Triggered.
Hurt my fucking feelings. There was a guy... Shut it down. " It's probably just a house blend.
You could have said whatever you wanted. Yeah, that's where you fucking sell it. Probably Cuban, just ask the guy. No, no, he's just, yeah, it's some old dude on a very expensive boat.
I have a friend that flies down to Cuba and he brings me these, probably. I had somebody say that to me this weekend. Well, you know what fucking aggravates the shit out of me on Facebook? And I don't know why the fuck this is happening, but I've gotten a lot of friend requests Of people peddling fucking Cuban cigars.
That's going around. I'm like, holy shit. They're joining the groups and trying to sell them too. I gave it one or two a day somebody's reporting, somebody's fucked.
Oh my fucking God. It's so obnoxious. There's one guy in the weasel group that every time seven people go in, he tells me five of them are fake and that they're trying to sell Cuban cigars. Really?
He goes, it's all the same people. I'm like, how do you know? He goes, I run a couple other groups. I always see them.
Do you just delete them? I was until like the fourth week in a row and the guys were like, you know what? I'll just wait, see if he tries to sell. Peddling his wares.
I've had a lot like on contact as well. So fucking obnoxious. I'm like, yeah, I get a lot of them on Instagram. And then some of these people have a lot of the same mutual friends that I have.
So, right, but I look, suckering them in, but I look, yeah, and I look, they look legit. And I'm like, okay, but as soon as you get the first scroll, the first photo is fucking some Cuban shit. And I'm like, fuck, a lot of them take the money and they don't send you cigars. Oh, scam artists.
Yeah, they're just scams. I didn't even have one. I mean, you can get a picture online. Huh.
But it sucks for me, because I like working with retailers. So then, you know, I'm like, oh, maybe they're a retailer. No, they're not. They're some jerk-off fucking...
Wasn't there supposed to be... Is that on Instagram? You're supposed to have, like, a verified thing, or is that Twitter? I tried it.
Twitter has it, and they do it on Instagram, too. I tried to do the Instagram one. They said that my profile picture didn't match my driver's license, but they kept billing me anyways. Oh, yeah, I was gonna say, I tried it on Instagram, but they wanted money.
But they wanted money, I was like, ah, I don't want that. I don't care, I'll give you the 15 bucks, I don't give a shit, that's fine, give me that blue check, I think it looks nice, it looks lovely. But they said that my picture didn't match, and my picture's kind of old, but still. So, I disputed the charge, give me my $45.
Like, why don't I have my blue check yet? Oh, it don't match. Oh, but we're gonna charge you. Yeah, but we're gonna keep billing you.
Keep billing you anyway, because it's close. Oh, my audio came back. See, there's a short, there's a short somewhere in the connection. Click.
Crownheads adds La Pissier, how did we show you that? La Pissier. La Pissier, number two, a PCA exclusive. Oh.
Crownheads are releasing a new size of La Pissier, and the only way to retailers to get it is to place the order next month at the 2023 PCA convention at trade show, unless they don't sell enough, and then you can buy it after. I love how that works. Yes, that's usually how it goes. You can only get it here.
You can only get it here. Are you interested in the number two? Well, I wasn't on the show. Well, you know, if somebody asked, tell him he went.
You know, Padrón does it right. Padrón does it right. Oh, yeah, he comes over, he goes, yeah, I'd like to buy the show special. He goes, okay, then he walks away, nobody ever comes back.
Then he disappears. No, no, you, if you place the show. You see him 20 minutes later with his bottle of rum going. If you place the show for the order for whatever their PCA cigar is.
Right. Then they make that many. Right, oh, I see what you're saying. Makes sense.
Yeah, where the other, a lot of the other people make it. Right. Oh, we didn't sell all of them. Oh yeah, we're projecting 10,000 cigar sales.
Oh, we only sold 5,000. Might as well open them up. I'll open it up then, it'll be fine. I never heard anything again on that Fuente Padron.
Yeah, isn't that something? How about that? They fucking took the entire focal point of that show. Right.
Of this Fuente Padron fucking docking thing where they got together. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then it just fucking fizzled. Biggest news story of the year.
It was huge. And then nothing. And nothing. Nobody's got it.
Nothing. Nobody. Did you guys order it? I said, who's releasing it?
Well, we have a standard set up as a tier group, and then this guy can get it. Well, the number one question was, do I buy it from Fuente or do I buy it from Padron? Yes. Right, yeah.
And that's pretty much the answer that you get. Pretty much the answer, right. Depends on who you asked. What about the guy with the rum glass?
The real response to that question would have been like, you mean like in 2023 or like when? In 2027? No, no, no. We released these in 2050.
We made 20 of these. Holy shit. You fucking consumed the entire show. Right.
You made this thing that everybody was excited about. And then you turned around. John Oliva's gonna call me. And then you turned around and you fucking didn't even release it.
Right. What are you not... Were they housed in the fucking... They must have been housed in the fucking building that sat on fire.
Oh, yeah. Can he call him and ask him about where these cigars are? No, we can't put him on the spot. I like him too much.
We'll never get point days again. He's a good guy. I was wondering about that, though, because I thought that was a cool concept. We should announce a collaboration with somebody for next year.
Yeah, and get everybody around. Get everybody around. Fucking drop some confetti. Right.
And then just not release shit. We just need a bunch of those cannons. Yeah. And shoot them off in the corner.
SCG and Postaña. What really got the major attention was the Powstanie-Padrón collaboration. Yeah, that, you know, but there's been minimal information about it. They showed them, they displayed them, and now we don't know what's going on with them.
Oh, here's the company we should deal with. Got it. Drunk Chicken Homicidal Hand Returns at PCA 2013, the Powstanie-Drunk Chicken Collaboration. Oh my goodness.
At the 2023 PCA Convention at Trade Show next month, Drunk Chicken Cigars. The booze doesn't like the bands, the bands are too shiny. Aw, they're very nice people. He likes the people.
We'll release the newest incarnation of Homicidal Hen, the company's limited edition cigar that is released annually. 5x50 Robusto Extra Vitola. The blend will also remain the same as the three previous releases, specifically a Pennsylvania broadleaf wrapper covering an Ecuadorian binder, Nicaraguan fillers. So it's the same cigar we released the last three years, we just called it number three.
Well, you know, hey, you, I will say this, at least maybe they're keeping true to the fact that you can only buy it at the show. It could be, they only make so many a year. Like, hey, we made this cigar, we still had some afterwards, so, you know, we'll release it again at PCA. Oh, in fact it is.
The production of 2023 Incarnation mirrors the production from the year before. Only 5,000 cigars will be released, packaged in 20 count boxes. So it's 250 boxes. Right.
The Homicidal Hen debuted in 2020. Since then, the company has released the same cigar once a year. Okay. According to Desiree Silver, owner of Drunken Chicken, the MSRP of Homicidal Hen 2023 will be $14 per cigar, and the cigars are scheduled to ship to retailers at the end of July.
So you don't want SBC prices almost. A BDP price. A BDP price. But it's a Robusto, though.
Okay. Go ahead. So they're consistent, though. Right, yeah.
Every year, the same amount of cigars, and apparently the same cigar. I had never heard of them. Drunken Chicken? Yeah, until that one year.
Oh, the one year. I've never smoked anything from them, but I see them on Instagram all the time. Yeah. Cool.
Sorry. That's where we got a lot of your original cigar facts. Yeah. From Drunken Chicken?
Yeah, they put one out every week. Oh, nice. Until they started getting really long. We need like a 20 minute segment for him to read the cigar facts.
Cigar stories, not facts. It's not facts. Right, yeah, they become stories. Oscar Valladares is adding Leaf by Oscar, 10th Anniversary, Criojo, in 2012 by Oscar, wait, and a 2012 Oscar Sumatra at the PCA 2023.
Mmm. I'll tell you the Sumatra I'm fucking excited about. Right. The Volstead.
Yeah, it was good. Oh yeah, that was good. That was good. I was shocked that it's a Sumatra.
I'm like, damn, man, this does not. Really? Does that taste like one to you? It does not taste like, no, it does not taste like a Sumatra.
Not even close. What does it taste like? It was kind of meaty tasting, like full flavored. Yeah.
Yeah. But you could smoke more than one of them. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, if I had another one, I could have went right to it.
Yeah. Yeah. That's fantastic. Oscar's also debuting the Connecticut at the 2023.
Oscar Valladares' signature of the Oscar line is getting a new Connecticut version that will debut at next month's Premium Cigar Association Convention to Trade Show. It's the year of the Connecticut. Yeah, that's what I was saying. I'm going to tell you right now.
I love and respect every one of you guys that are making a Connecticut. My Connecticut's going to fuck yours up. Not even close. We're not even in the same fucking realm.
It's just this cigar is. It's different. This cigar is fucking amazing. Right.
It's going to eclipse the Habero and Broadleaf sales. Like by a fucking long shot. I've never made anything so fucking amazing and completely different. Also the year of the war chicken.
Yeah, well, but, you know, I have a lot of the Connecticut's, so I'm going to tell you right now, the fucking Connecticut is amazing. It is, it is good. I had your new War Bear this morning. Did you?
It was really strong for a Corona. It's a little powerhouse. It is. Yeah.
It's very strong. That's a Corona or a Corona Gordo? It's a Box Press. It's a Corona Gordo.
Box Press, Corona Gordo. Five and a half by five. So I've noticed like, your cigars, they change a lot with that size. And they're good though.
That's the geek size, man. The Corona Gorda is the geek size. So any, if, say like, Drunken Chicken, if they were to make a Corona Gorda size, do you think it would make their cigar better because that size just packs the most punch? I think the answer to that question is, it depends.
Okay. The Justice is the Corona Gorda of Connecticut, right? Correct. All right, I haven't had that one yet.
Yeah. I'm going to tell you right now, in the Connecticut, the Toro is the fucking best. I like the Corona Gordo, the Toro is the fucking, I smoke the most Toro, excuse me, it's fucking amazing. It is, I'm smoking it right now, I can smoke whatever the fuck I want, and I'm smoking that cigar.
What size is the SBC? Five and a half by 46. What is that? Corona Gordo.
Corona Gordo. Yes. There have always been Corona Gordas. Correct.
Never mind. Go ahead. No, I'll ask you later. The Villager Miami 2023 debut.
What? I may or may not answer. I don't have to answer. Just tell me.
No, I don't want to because they ask the question. It might be information that you don't want. And I'll say that's information I'm not giving out. Well, yeah, but by asking the question, the information.
I hate to edit it. I heard you didn't blend the 2023. I did not. I did not blend the SPC.
That's why it was so different. That's why it's totally different. Right. When I found out who blended it, you could taste it.
The guy. Yeah, the guy. Yeah, Uncle Skip. The one.
So you could taste. He said, I want to blend it. I said, all right, fuck it. You know what I mean?
I just found that out today. It's like Mario. Oh, that makes sense. It's like Mario Andretti saying, I want to drive your car.
I'm like, no, no, no. Fuck that. No, no, no, no. You know what I mean?
Of course. Of course you could do it. Yeah, but that's like, what's another NASCAR guy? Tony Stewart.
It's like Tony Stewart asking to drive your car. I'd let him. Right. Fuck yeah.
Drive it. It's not like, you know, some guy who never drove a car before has to drive a car. Yeah, yeah. You know?
Yeah, what if it was the car in last place that nobody knows? Look, the guy has taken, listen, the guy has taken a year. What if Robbie Doyle has to drive your car? It's taken over a year for the Quinn Paganero, whatever the fuck.
Why does he pick names nobody can type? You know, I like the Qui-Gon Jim. Yes. Yeah, the, so you know.
Sorry. You fuckin' know that there was thought into every step of the blend. Of course. Right.
" First of all, it's called "Surrounded by Champions", right? Right. So it fits the whole scenario. Right, you're like another one of the champions today.
Like, fuck yeah, man. You know what? Me and Phil would like to blend next year's. No.
No, no, no, no, BDP and Boots. BDP and Boots. Phil will sit this one out. I would say that's probably not gonna happen.
I mean, let's be real. Well, if we go over there and do it with Uncle Skip. Still no. Wow.
Wow. Know where that line is. That's the line, yeah. No concert and no cigars.
Not even wait for me. Hey, I didn't say no cigars. I just said you're not going to blend an SPC. Well, right.
I already have a cigar. If you went into Nico Sueño and he said, "Okay, we could do a fucking limited fucking Postana," I'd be okay with that. We could do that. Let's do it.
It's not going to mean that. We'll take it. First of all, you got to get Skip to agree to it, so good luck with that. All right, he's agreeing.
Oh, he'll agree. He loves me. He loves me, Uncle Skip. He's a grand.
You better be ready to set some time aside due to some San Juan del Sur swimming as well as Esteli time. And get him on the show to agree. Oh, you get me? I'm not going to the house with the monkeys?
I'm going to the house with the monkeys. You're going to the monkeys. And we've got to stay up all night until the monkeys wake up, apparently. That's all that the other day.
And you get to hang out with the dog. Oh, yeah, with Buster. Little Buster. Yeah.
Steals towels now. Buster gets to sleep. How come we don't get to sleep? You get to sleep.
If you want to go to sleep. Yeah, you get to sleep in the daytime. You got to bring one of those masks. Well, no, there's two things that you have to do.
Number one is you fall asleep when you guys are watching TV, right? You angle yourself so that you can nap and it looks like you're watching TV and you fall asleep. Well, that's easy. I could do that.
Or you can't see your eyeballs. It's a great technique. " Will we get one of those LED masks where it looks like we're still awake? Yeah.
And then the other thing, the other thing that you need to do is when you're really fucking tired, you just got to look at them saying, "Listen, man, I'm fucking going to sleep. I'm going to sleep. I'm tired. I've got that part down.
I'm tired. I'm sorry. I'm a failure for a friend, and I'm going to sleep. If you could get on his schedule, it would be okay.
You just got to fight that first day, and then you sleep till noon, and then you're okay, once you get on his schedule. There's still other shit that you can do, though, if you woke up at a regular time. Well, right, but he'll be sleeping. Yeah.
So what? The factory's still there. Oh. Yeah.
I can't get to the factory. You know what, you sleep, Skip, me and Palmer will go there, we'll direct everything. Let everybody dance in while they're rolling cigars. You're like a fucking Willy Wonka chocolate factory.
Don't smoke that! Boots is all inflated over on the side. These guys are great. I'm drowning in the tobacco river.
Yeah, these guys are great, they fucking created 20 cigars today, Skip. Look at all these, we're just making them like crazy. Hey, we're going to have to call a Step on Cabbage Brothers, let them know that there's fucking 200,000 cigars coming through. Just need some more money.
Master blenders. Just master blenders. Oh, we've experienced. All right, we've got to keep moving, we've got two more stories.
Oh, we have three more stories. Okay. All right. Well, we can skip the one.
Choke, we announce, is Heartbreaker 2 distribution returns to Poetry. Yeah! We lived that last week. We broke that release.
As heard last week on the show. Who released that one? What camera were you just on? I was on Palmer.
Oh. Oh. Because he's reading the news. I thought you were on you.
It's almost like this is the first time we've done this. Don't have your mask on. Yeah, so yeah, we broke that news. And you know what?
Charlie was very nice. He included Cigar Hustlers podcast on the news. Nice. You know?
Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, that's where he pulled the story from. Yeah. Yeah.
Oh. He did. Wow. Yeah, he just doesn't like to do Instagram handles, that's all.
He's like, I've never done that. In addition to the new distribution deal on a recent episode of Cigar Hustlers podcast, a show that ties to Poshik... Oh, it doesn't tie to Poshik. It does tie to Poshik.
Poshik ties to it. Two completely different industries. I can assure you that one of those companies makes way more money than the other one. Which one is more popular the more people have heard of?
I would say Poshik. No. I don't know what we're talking about right now. Phil, spell Poshik.
P-O-P. Phil, spell a Cigar Hustlers podcast. A-C-I-Gar, Hustlers. There you go, see?
Halfway review of the Phosphoro Connecticut, Michael. I know. Oh, so you're already looking at it? No, I talked to Jeff.
Oh, Patrick did the review, you always like to know who did the review. Yeah, Patrick did the review, yeah. The Phosphoro Connecticut seemingly has all the makings of a very good cigar. Yeah, it came a little aggressive on it.
Yet, at the same time, didn't seem to get everything in the right place in order to allow the cigar to reach its full potential. The first half of the cigar is very enjoyable, whether a bit lighter than peanut butter or a bit heavier, richer with earth and coffee, the second half of the cigar finds itself marred with combustion issues. Yeah, Patrick's like... They have a lot of combustion issues.
Could that be user error, I'm thinking? Listen, it's very possible. They have a lot of problems. What is a combustion issue?
It didn't burn right for them, or it went out, or it burned crooked. It's very possible. Yes. It is very possible.
I don't think I've ever had an issue. I never have either. Yeah, I've never had an issue with the Foss Rue. No.
What is it, leave his cigars outside? I feel like it's the right to passage through Half Wheel, because I think that the first one that they ever reviewed was mine, one of the Postonies that said that they had burn issues. They had burn issues, right. Yeah, so I made shirts that says I have burn issues.
And you burned his, you lit a cigar with his business cards. Yeah, because I had burn issues. Right. Yeah.
So, I mean, maybe that's like a, it's like an initiation thing. It's just their thing. Yeah, yeah. It's like a paddle swapping, you know.
Oh, yeah. You got to be hazed into the... Oh, hazed into the cigar company, right. Yeah.
So I'm like... So I talked to Jeff and said, hey, look. It doesn't matter. As long as they're talking about you.
That's all that fucking matters. That's all that matters. Remember, Jeff, you're the worst pirate I've ever heard of. But you have heard of me.
And I actually said that to him. Oh, did you? Yeah. Yeah.
You've got to be the worst pirate I've ever heard of. Well, who's the guy that reviews it? But you have heard of me. Patrick, Patrick did.
Patrick who? Patrick at Half Wheel. I don't remember him. He's the bald guy.
Which is funny, because that's the best chance you have. Yeah, Patrick's the nicer of the two. Yeah, he's, well, he's the three, Brooks. Oh, Brooks, I forgot about Brooks.
Yeah, and then Brian kind of circulates in every once in a while. Right, for the shows. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I like Brooks.
How come he didn't interview you? Like, if Charlie gives you an 88, that's probably a perfect cigar. It's probably worth a hundred. You know what I mean?
Like, it's gotta be a 97 or above. They gave it an 84. Yeah. The Phosphorus?
But that's not a Charlie 84. That's a Patrick 84. And it was, I don't think that they, you know, that's not a qualifying number. Well again, it's not.
It's a good cigar. It is a good cigar. Just like the cigars and cigarettes. You know, there's a lot of factors that go down to this.
You know, where were you smoking at? Yeah. What kind of lighter were you using? Were you fighting with your wife?
Yes. How many times did you breathe in between puffs? How many breaths? Yeah.
We want to know. All right, our Florida story. So we have alligator, sharks, and pythons at the beach, Michael. Now in Destin, Florida.
A bear. The bear swimming. Three words to crowd a Florida beach goer didn't expect to hear it during their Sunday in the sun. It's a bear.
Caught on camera, a bear was spotted splashing through the Gulf of Mexico before running up. He was fucking having a great time. He did. He was swimming around.
Before running up the Destin shore just before noon, according to CNN, And new sources, swimmers and beach goers in and near the water at the city of the Florida's panhandle can be seen near the bear. Yeah, they were very close to the bear. Yeah. Frolicking in the water before running off into a nearby sand dune, according to the person who captured the video, animals on video.
Look, man. So come on down here. Everything's trying to kill you. Look, black bears, they want nothing to do with you.
No. If you shouted at that bear, he'd be like, fuck, and he'd probably just run away. Well, the people were very close. That's probably why he scurried off.
" He just wanted to swim. Oh, this was a real bear. Oh, yeah, a real black bear. Oh, I thought it was a joke, man.
He's not huge, about the size of my biggest dog. Oh. He's not a huge black bear. He looked like in the video.
I feel like he's probably a little bigger than that. Well, fatter probably, but I meant size-wise, height and length and stuff. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I mean, that guy saw a body of water and possible meat.
Well, now's the season where they all kind of come out. Yeah, he was hot, he took a little swim, and then he ran back into the beach. You know what you are seeing a lot more of, though? In their society.
It's because we're encroaching on the habitat. They're running out of places to go. That's been going on forever. Right, but the longer it goes, the less space they have.
Yeah, but maybe you heard like, okay, in a heavily wooded neighborhood, there was a bear that came to the garbage can. Dude, I've seen bears in my neighborhood since I moved in. I don't know how that's possible. Yeah, for years, where are they hiding?
Yeah. I don't know. But they all sleep under one tent? I don't know.
And we have a bear in my neighborhood, but there's a big wooded area over in the corner. You just got to wrestle them. You got to wrestle bear. You know, he's got to take them on.
We have bears, coyotes, bobcats, and alligators in my neighborhood. There you go. It was always, oh, they're going to get the dogs. They're going to get the dogs.
They don't come to where the dogs are. You're fenced in. Right. Yeah.
Somebody's going to break in the back door if you don't lock it. Okay, first we have dogs. We have three massive dogs. We have three dogs.
Well, two massive, one little one. But we have dogs. Oh, that's right. And there's only one gate on the fence.
They don't like one way out, one way in, one way out playing bad guys. Methods? Yeah, because he escapes them. " Yeah, yeah.
And the back door. Right. Yeah. They're coming through the front door.
Right. It's like bubbles. " Right, exactly. I am not.
I'm not even taking chances. Even Butt Sniffer, they don't want to mess with him either. Butt Sniffer. Hey, Tom, does that one have a dog over there?
El Chapo. Does that one have a dog? That one got a house? I hear no barking.
The house next door looks nicer, and they don't have animals, let's go there. Well, you walk by the house, and Bubbles wants to eat you. You're like, argh, argh, argh, argh. Yeah, my dogs are in the window.
Right. He's like, nah. No, I'll skip that one. Yeah.
Well, let's go to Kenny's house. You don't know. Yeah, let's go to Kenny. He doesn't have a dog.
He's got a nice pool. Right, he's got a nice above-ground pool. Yeah, he's got it. He's living it up.
We've got to be cashing that house. Right. All right, that's all I got. That's all you got?
That's all I got. Okay. You got a Listener of the Week? No, not this week.
I have a Listener of the Week. Who's Listener of the Week, Michael? Miguel Rocha. Miguel Rocha, Listener of the Week.
Yes. Shop of the Week? Do I have a Shop of the Week? Oh, come on.
You want a Shop of the Week? No, come on. Where are we going? You ain't got a Shop of the Week?
What about the one in Sarasota? Which one's in Sarasota? We haven't been there yet, have we? Did you go to...
Heritage? Yeah, Heritage. I thought we mentioned them recently. I think we have.
Oh. What about Jimmy's? No, we don't know. Jimmy's got some sneaky stuff going on.
We're not sure. He's got the Celery City Cigar. He's got his own cigar now. What?
It came out yesterday. Yeah. It's called the Jimmy? It's called the Celery City Cigar.
There's three blends. Oh, they're house cigars. He hasn't said a word. Uh-oh.
Yeah, I didn't know. We fucking go there, we bust in, and we say what the fuck's going on. I'm not touching that cigar. I want to try it.
Do you? - Let's try it. - I'm just curious. - You think it's gonna have combustion issues?
- Probably. - They all do, obviously. - They all have combustion issues. - All have combustion issues.
- I'll be Patrick, he's Brutes, and you can be the Asian girl. - I'm gonna skip the shop of the week. - Tobacology. - What, what?
- Tobacology. - Tobacology. - He hasn't been listening lately. - What?
- What? - Yeah. - Call him right now. - All right, all right.
Shop of the Week's Tobacology. I can't prove. Wow. P.
Yeah, he said he's been busy. Oh, he's been busy. Yeah. How about that?
Yeah. You want me to call him? Yeah, call him. I'll call him right there.
Yeah, we need to know something. Are you supplying the three cigars of Jay? He's not going to answer. He's going to think I'm going to want money or something.
I'm in a meeting, I'll call you right back. I got a customer. I'll be back in a minute. Click.
How the hell are you? You're on the podcast, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, we noticed that you haven't been listening lately, and we're not happy about it, we heard that you were behind. We heard you have not been listening, no, I haven't been listening to the Patreon, I've been listening to the podcast, oh, why not the Patreon, that's perfect, that's fine, just keep sending the money, that's acceptable. Don't cancel.
Just don't cancel. What's up, buddy? What's up? There's your boy, your boy Industries here.
Oh, it's Phil, it's Phil. Oh, Phil, sorry, Phil's here. Phil's here. Yeah, I don't know.
Are you going to the show? Yeah, I'm going to the show. Of course I'm going to the show. Okay.
He's got to save that old man in case he passes out again. Yeah, the guy goes down again. The guy that goes down. Oh, that's right.
We saw that. I don't know. Can we talk about that? Because we didn't do anything.
Oh my gosh. Don't say that on here. We were not present at this place at this time. I like that you stepped in.
You were ready to go. You were popping a breath, man, getting ready to walk over there. Turn and rub. Turn and rub.
Listen, any chance I get to kiss me, I mean, wait. I mean, any, ah, got me. Anyway. Any chance to hang out with a half-dead old man?
What's going on? When's the Virginia thing? I don't know. When's the Virginia thing?
For what? The Connecticut, he's never gonna make your Connecticut, you know that. It's just, he just says he's going to, and then he will just wait a year and a half. It's a unicorn?
No, no, the Connecticut's, the Connecticut's coming out, it's not gonna be like the Padrón Fuente thing, it's gonna be like the Connecticut thing. Yeah, it's happening. You said Padrón Fuente. No comment.
You're such a pussy. You're the number one cigar podcast, I can't talk about things like that. He's still over and he's gonna get some. I got live shops, I gotta keep going here guys, come on.
I'm more a Patreon caller, you know that. If you'd like to hang up and call me back in a few minutes. I feel like I gotta give you something to beep out. Fuck, fuck, fuck!
Yeah, we don't beep out, fuck. There ain't no boobing. Anyway, what are we talking about? No, no, we were just checking in.
We're just checking in, we haven't heard from you. They haven't heard from you. Yeah, I figured I had a 50/50 shot of you answering, so you answered and you came through and I appreciate it. Shop of the week.
You're the shop of the week. Hey, sales never fails. Sales never fails. Oh, I'm shop of the week.
Nice. Yeah. I feel special. All five locations.
Hey, listen, have you had the Volstead yet? What do you think? I think it's fantastic. It's very good.
What do you think? Listen, well, here's what I think. Let me tell you something, all right? I smoke it and it feels like, if you've ever sat with Skip Martin on a back porch in Nicaragua with me, It feels like the smoke is going to weight you down into a chair, right?
But the cigar is not actually that heavy, right? I would classify it as a medium, maybe a medium full, but goddamn, the smoke feels like you're smoking on the end of the one. The first one, I wasn't sure, the second one, I really, really began to enjoy it. But what I would say is, if you've only smoked one, shame on you, get some real friends who have them already, and smoke more than one.
Because I really, really, really enjoyed it. You know what? I think we need to do it on the Patreon today. Okay.
Okay. Oh, nice. We're going to do it on the Patreon. Oh, we have a good friend.
Nice. Nice. You fucking do have a good friend. Yeah.
Yeah. It's really good. I really enjoy it. I'm excited for different sizes.
So, Brett, if you can mail us some. What's the deal, Mike? You can mail us some. Yeah, don't start with me.
You have the inside track. What is the deal with the rapper? Is the rapper going to be a different rapper on it? What's the thought process behind that?
What's your thought process behind all that? I don't think so, buddy. Okay. I honestly have no idea.
Okay. All right. I have no fucking idea. Here's, you know, like, here's what I do.
I'm a fucking killer. So the reality is that you put it in front of me, and it's going to be put in the right hands. And that's all I give a shit about. I know that they're going to deliver, it's going to be an amazing cigar, and they have my support, right?
So, in our world, you're not a killer, you're a dealer, right? So, you gotta, you kinda, stop using the word killer when you mean to use dealer, right? Because what you described is exactly what dealer is, right? We deal.
We deal. But I feel like there's levels of dealers. There's levels of dealers, right? You have your quintessential corner kid, you know what I mean?
Who's kind of scouting in fear of, you know what I mean? Yeah. And then you have like, you know, your kind of mid-level dude, and he's probably like a cooler. You know what I mean?
He does all right. He moves in product, but it's, you know, it's not impressive. And then, and then, top tier is your straight fucking killers. The guys, we're taking no fucking prisoners.
You know what I mean? And that's where I fall. Oh, awesome. Well, I'm just a regular dealer.
You're just a standard, you're a corner guy? Yeah, I'm just a, I'm just, well, not really a corner. No, man. I can't do the corner anymore.
I'm not the corner guy anymore. I don't know, you're pretty high up. I guess I'm mid-level. I'm mid-level.
I feel like you're higher than mid. Don't you sell yourself short. Don't you sell. Well.
Did you schedule dinner yet? Read the back of the cover, Phil. Humility's where it's at, right? Humility's where it's at.
Yeah. I don't know. Did you schedule dinner yet? " Come find out.
Listen. Phil, I'm trying to do a real dinner here with Knight. He wants to do a renaissance dinner at PCA. Where we go, where we go get costumes, we go to a costume store, and we get real costumes, and we go represent and get shitty, shitty drunk.
Maybe we can get this killer to do some drinking. That's probably not gonna happen. Yeah, I've yet to see that really come out. Because he's a killer.
That's my point. Well, we're gonna miss the show. Alright, well, we're gonna let you go. Thank you so much for answering.
Yes. And congratulations on being the Shop of the Week. And congratulations on being the Shop of the Week. Thank you, boys.
Thank you so much to me. We appreciate your insight. I feel like my acceptance speech is being cut off here, but okay. Did you get your AC fixed?
Yeah, I got the AC fixed, man. Absolutely. I have to. It's like 91 here.
I feel like I'm in Florida. Oh, Jesus Christ. I know. I know.
Minus the meth and the alligators? And the bears now. And the bears. Bears at the beach.
I know. I know. But there are druggies if you look in the right place. You just gotta look around.
I mean, we were at, where are we at, Denny's, there's definitely dragons at Denny's. Yeah, there's a F1, there's a genie. Oh, the F1? Yeah, but I can't wait to get to come up here.
All right, get back into your show. Me and Palmer, we'll be looking for your box. All right, brother. I got a special box for you.
Oh, my God. All right, boys, I love you. All right, see you later, bud. All right, see you.
All right. There you go. All right, that's it. I like sliding in a caldea.
You heard it right here. We have a box coming. It's official. The important thing is that we have a box coming.
That's it. All right, guys, we gotta go. It's been episode 285. Don't forget to join the Patreon.
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Show Notes
Join us on this episode of the Cigar Hustlers Podcast as we delve into the latest releases that have the cigar community buzzing. We start off by discussing PCA Releases Black Starline Cigars' newest creation, aptly named The Rosewood. We'll explore the unique characteristics and flavor profiles of this highly anticipated release, which is sure to captivate aficionados and newcomers alike.
Next up, we turn our attention to Crown Heads and their newest addition to the La Patissier series, the La Patissier No 2 Cigar. We'll examine how this delectable smoke showcases the artistry of blending flavors, taking inspiration from the world of pastries. Get ready to tantalize your taste buds as we discuss the intricate flavor notes and luxurious smoking experience that awaits.
In the realm of intriguing names, we have the Homicidal Hen Cigar from Drunk Chicken. We'll dive into the story behind this peculiarly named smoke and explore how it has garnered attention within the cigar community. From its intriguing blend to the captivating backstory, this cigar promises to leave a lasting impression.
Last but certainly not least, we'll uncover the details surrounding Chogui's latest release, the Heart Breaker 2.0 Cigars. We'll explore how Chogui has refined and enhanced the original Heart Breaker blend to create an even more extraordinary smoking experience. From the construction to the flavor profile, we'll provide insights into what makes this cigar a must-try for enthusiasts seeking a bold and memorable smoke.
Also in this episode of the Cigar Hustlers Podcast, we dive into a controversial issue that has been making waves in the cigar industry - the "Paint Gate" scandal involving Room 101 and STG (Scandinavian Tobacco Group). Join us as we unravel the details surrounding this heated controversy and discuss its implications for both companies and the wider cigar community.
Tune in as we discuss these exciting releases, share our thoughts, and provide insider perspectives on the cigars that have recently hit the market. Whether you're a seasoned aficionado or just starting your journey into the world of cigars, this episode is sure to offer valuable insights and leave you eager to explore these new offerings. Don't miss out on the latest buzz in the cigar industry - join us on the Cigar Hustlers Podcast!