Cigar Hustlers Podcast 287 Joe Lotus
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Yes.
Do we so he's good.
Look at that.
I know it's amazing.
A professional feel still is so
fucked.
And watch the show.
He pays attention to what's
going on until you watch.
This is how my goodness, right?
Oh my goodness, real talent.
Real here at cigar houses
podcast today.
So Michael.
Yeah, it's Hi.
How are you?
How was your, how are you doing?
But I'm fine.
You want to show a little
package first?
Oh yeah.
Well you know we got a little
thing thing here.
The thing that makes said he
finally sent finally arrived.
Yeah it finally arrived and in
perfect fashion we have received
two two, not three, not one, but
two, Joe Rogan cigars.
So you and I will enjoy.
These are these are not, he's
going to be fantastic.
I'm very excited about these.
So my came through, he did Nick,
Nicholas mellowed delivered.
Delivered.
That was nice show.
Yesterday was pretty good show.
Yeah, I think we do a good job
buddy.
What information?
We're not intersect them cigar
Illuminati.
So yes, the hard question.
Yeah.
He released a lot of stuff that
somebody came out in the press
release this weekend, we're
ahead of the curve.
And Charlie, could not verify
the informations.
I have that to cover today.
Nice, try ladies.
When, you know, I know Joey, he
was going.
All right.
So wait, did you, did you
mention the White Lotus thing on
the show?
I don't know.
Maybe, alright, I watched all of
it.
Okay, here's what you're into
it.
It's like a car accident.
You gotta watch it to sit
stressful.
Yeah, even a You got sucked into
the last five episodes are four
episodes.
Yeah, as she walked in and I'm
like okay this guy's doing this
is guys doing that.
Yeah, but you couldn't leave
either, it's stressful man, but
it was so asking such a weird
show.
It is a very weird show, the
first one was better, I thought
the responder not better but
done where there was like, okay
this is going on.
This is how yeah something, the
first one was better but this
one stressful stressful for
Porsha.
I mean Which ones which ones
boys?
The assistant.
Oh she's going to be okay.
Yeah, but I mean she's like
sneaking out of the country
wearing funny hats and weird
sunglasses at the airport she's
gonna be a is she gonna be all
right, is he gonna be all right?
What's, but there was no real
conclusion to the show.
What are you talking about?
Well, normally where the show
you know it starts then there's
a story, The builds up.
Yeah something happens.
And then a sort of ends, you
know the finality to it or
conclusion to it at the end.
Okay.
Well the focal point is, you
know, sending for money is what
it is about.
Oh, was that it?
Yeah.
I didn't get that at all.
Yeah, so and so's loaded.
Right, well, there was a couple
people on the show that were
loaded right and how they act
right.
And what money and whatever and
lusts can do for you, whatever
sound like that you didn't get
that writing it.
Oh yeah that's what it was.
Oh I thought it was okay.
I enjoyed it.
You know like there hasn't been
anything good on TV lately.
I'm It's time.
It is that time of the year it's
the rear axle and stuff.
There's not anything good.
I turn on Black Mirror.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've seen some of those, that's
a Netflix show, right?
Yeah.
Well this season supposedly
really good quickly, lock that
door.
Look, there's a storm coming.
No, no, I think the door open it
could have been the sponsor
could we could be our sponsor
lurking.
So we need to make a guest
appearance on the show that we
don't want, am I?
So we punched out an episode of
black men?
Our, and that was pretty cool.
It was called, like, are these
New Windsor?
Is, this the original ones know?
This is 20, 20 30 sometimes.
I think I watched of Joanie's
awful.
Joanie Tony's on Tony's awful.
It was pretty good.
Yeah, I enjoyed it.
We still have Netflix yet.
Oh, hey guys, you know, well, we
pulled that.
We pull the trigger on it, we
require.
Yeah, we're negotiating we're
talking and we're just having a
back and forth.
It's like 10 bucks, bro?
I know it's get the fuck over
it.
All right.
Wait, are you trying to figure
out who's going to pay?
Pay for it.
Like you were 18.
If we really miss it by, not
having or not.
Because like I said, like, I
turned it on last night and it
went through and like, oh, look
look, wait, something's wrong.
We have it for the night.
So I hit play for the movies
like up.
You are not in when your home
area and indeed when we were
shut it down.
Yeah dude, give me a fucking
break.
I want to one of the others like
Hulu this time of year, we don't
use who because that's that's
new shoes.
You can still cheat on Hulu.
Let me cheat on her.
Oh yeah.
But it's my Hulu though.
But they will let you suspend so
you can suspend it for the
summer.
This is a, this is a hell of a
logistical approach for you.
I like what you have to deal
with, right is next.
Level, just hit the button, get
the fuck over it.
All right, I know.
It's only 10:00, we got the
Disney plus we got the Netflix
last.
We have, I did cancel Hulu so
now we steal it.
I mean allegedly allegedly you
still have it still works for?
Yeah it still works.
I mean you know that's only Hulu
only pops up for a Kardashian
whores and stuff like that.
So yeah.
That's my wife watches.
That too.
Yeah, they just came back out at
right now.
Can't get rid of him.
You know what, I got to be
honest.
I'm gonna tell you of all the
things that I watched as my
wife, the cardassians, not as
bad like what?
You know, what I that's what I
don't like to watch when I have.
You haven't gone through it.
Obviously, you haven't lived.
I've seen the other Seasons.
Okay.
So wait a second.
Wait a second.
Yes.
Are you going to tell me that
you watch Married at First
Sight?
No, we don't watch that.
Okay.
I don't even know what that is.
Have you seen 90 day fiancé?
And say no, we don't want any
okay?
Okay good.
We're just house.
Have you seen 90 day fiancé
beforehand or some shit?
It's called.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah man.
Yeah.
What do you get the watch?
Okay, so what's even funnier now
is britni knows when the fucking
look is coming.
There's somebody makes a really
stupid a statement on TV, right?
Like, I'm 48 years old, and I'm
a virgin.
And I'm now, I'm now meeting
with this person and let's pray
together, whatever, and she'll
see me, Turn to her like and see
and what she'll do if she does.
Like this Look Away thing, like
when he's like almost like doing
it like are you fucking serious?
You know, come on, come on.
SO I'ma tell you right now, if
you really want, if you go
through the abuse of some of
those shows, right?
Kardashians are Breeze man.
That would just seems so fake.
No, I don't think, I think in
some scenarios that it's real,
and these people are just really
fucking stupid.
Really fucking stupid.
So, we did watch the Duggar
conspiracy Audiology watching.
Yeah.
It was pretty funny.
Oh yeah, there's a whole cult
thing or some shit going on.
It's crazy.
She just watches all the
housewives.
Well, not all of me that she's
watching Jersey Beverly Hills
and or city I think.
Or how do you not watch it.
Lanolin is the best one, is the
best one because you're racist.
No, it's not.
So you are racing, but it's not
because of the one white person.
I don't think there's a white
one anymore.
Oh, really not at all.
Now, still see what this, what's
your name is cheating on her
husband.
Who's the one that you drew in
there?
No, no no.
They will the blond one.
Yeah, the blond with the wall.
I did get to go get a little
staycation last week.
My wife was at that conference,
then at the Omni.
Oh, yeah.
And I got to go down.
I States and Russia, they
Friday, it was nice.
I mean, he's very boozy breath.
Nice.
We did, we did the basketball.
We did, we did a little
Universal.
I saw you guys did the the water
and we were invited out yet.
The day before, the neighbor
invite the neighbors invited us
out to go.
On Saturday, the neighbors, the
neighbors, the ones, the ones we
like.
Yes.
So we did that, which was
awesome.
We got to either like the new
little minion place or whatever
this is very nice and then
Sunday, we did a little water
park thing.
We saw the flash, I Didn't Know
The Flash came out, I didn't
know.
Oh yeah I think came up Father's
Day weekend or some shit.
Yeah you went on I did.
And I'm will judge you on your
recommendations right now, but I
liked it.
I think that you're going to be
like yeah I'm probably yeah, I
liked it.
I thought was good.
Yeah you're not gonna like it.
You not so much.
Are we going to patreon these
Joe Rogan's?
I think we should do that.
We could we only have the two
though.
There is another thing that so
on your final, give him
something else.
You can just smoke something,
something else out of the bag.
All right.
Unless you had something else to
review the pillar, I don't have
anything.
The BB we go to the bdp.
I'm gonna tell you something
else that I'm gonna tell.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna review my
if you want.
We can do the road and we can
review it on Wednesday.
He wants on the patreon.
Huh?
The Patriot we review cigars on.
Oh, I know.
I know y'all do it on this one,
right.
I was saying we could do it on
the chat and Palmer show on
Wednesday.
Our views guys on its kind of
encroaching on my style but yeah
crossing a burn.
This place down the deal was.
I don't do cigars and listen.
Listen.
Okay.
So Phil's coming back now you
know.
All right well pill.
Yeah.
Hey man.
If you don't want a problem, I
don't want a problem.
If you want to probably one of
wrong.
If, you know, if you want a
problem, I said no problem.
That's some 50 Cent.
Shit right there, buddy.
I'm just doing Britney glad you
keep talking.
Oh my God, it was terrible.
So so that's when we decided to
turn on black mirrors.
When I got one of those episome
like listen, I just she's like,
I'm not really watching today.
Was my God.
Cool.
They got there.
There's an older one.
That got a lot of press when it
came out.
Did you watch that one?
You know, which one I'm talking
about?
No.
All right these two guys are
doing this virtual video game
thing.
Yeah these two friends but what
I am is a girl in the virtual
thing they find out they've been
fucking each other in the
virtual game, right?
But their friends in real life
and is kind of weird so that's
it's that kind of show, right?
Yeah, it's weird like that.
Yeah.
Huh.
A little weird?
Well you know I mean like you
there's a lot of things that you
can go like a dude with another
dude, you get along with right
things make sense, right?
It's just that when it comes to
the whole sex thing, that's
where it's like, okay, there's a
line, you know what I mean?
It's like we can hang out with
smoke cigar, you know.
We like at the sport, we gotta
get boots to watch, white White
Lotus, he'll like that season.
Probably a lot of.
So listen.
First of all, so I went on coops
thing thing.
Which groups thing thing that
was on Coop this week?
You didn't say what a watch it.
Yeah.
I wasn't Coupe.
Was it past your bedtime?
It's 11:15.
Yeah, but I still have to watch
when you're it was 15 minutes.
Oh, so he doesn't know what he's
doing.
Everybody talks about the new
products and stuff like that and
Aaron Fish, dick Loomis was on
love, fistic sticks, the man,
did he talked very did a little
bit, little bit little bit very
briefly.
You know, and there's another
guy that I think was kind of
moving things along, but I don't
know who he was.
He seemed nice 20, but I have
some comments that I want to,
was it just the two of them
Coupe was around it.
And cool.
And Coupe was handling.
The whole thing was running
this, you know, the coop.
Oh, you know, I think it's his
birthday today, is it?
Yes, great.
Happy birthday saying, happy
birthday Steve is today.
Tomorrow, people worship and
birthday on Facebook today.
All right, happy birthday.
Steve my birthday.
If it's not then latest when it
plays tomorrow.
Yeah, you know.
So we're either later right on
time.
One of them.
Happy birthday.
Happy birthday.
So he's an avid fan and so
anyways.
I got some comments to say about
some people.
Oh, on the show.
There you go.
You got your camera underneath.
Look at this is I'm not doing
it.
I don't think I should do it
here.
Oh, that bad.
I think it's just talk about it.
I don't, you know, it's not bad
but I should talk about on the
patreon.
I feel like it valid, you know,
it's valid for patreon.
I can only hear Yeah, cool.
Okay.
I love the camera woman.
It's fantastic.
So professional and everything.
Kubas amazing is super nice.
You know very gracious.
Fishstick was oh you know fish
stick and I were Pals now.
We're close.
All right.
Yeah, we're tight.
Did you wear your shirt for me?
Show when you're?
That's what I wore my Lenny.
Smeagol, Lenny approved hat.
Oh, did you?
I did.
So, what was the other show this
on his shirt?
I couldn't remember today.
That cigar I was talking to my
friend from two guys.
And cigar.
Dude, I told you.
Dad.
And then I'll leave it.
No, he told me that there we can
talk about it more and more
editing.
Okay.
I'll just bleep you.
All right?
That's funny.
Yeah, just do that, right?
That's much better.
Make nice with a conflict and
then you're gonna ruin it again.
I'm here to start some shit, I
guess.
Okay, well hey, we got a we got
the Roma craft event coming up.
This Friday, very excited.
Mr. Rosales will be in the shop
and thinking about doing a sum,
like, event Samplers on the site
to so that should be fun.
Oh, yeah.
People partake.
Who aren't ya?
You cannot be here.
We want you to be part of this.
So Roma event.
We're gonna have Samplers just
for you, just for you.
So go ahead and check them out.
Don't hit the poop.
I peed thing.
No, no, he has a fact.
Here's a fun fact.
I was on the right screen for
the sound.
Okay, we're ready at 7:16.
Well, while we're on, there's a
lot of there's a lot of we not
doing the phone call, he hasn't
responded.
Okay, we're not doing a kind of
fuck.
That was a lot of snot really on
him.
It's more on me.
Yeah, there's a lot of PCA news
because there's a lot of stuff
coming out.
This is the last week before the
show.
So yeah, there's a lot going on.
There's a lot of announcements
actually to the point where I
just started doing headline.
Because I want to talk about
another cigar again.
You know what's funny is, I
don't think I got to get a moute
press release.
For the limit to that other day.
Yeah.
Well, are you handling those on
your own?
I'll let me text them last one
without me.
Well, you weren't here, buddy.
I told you Michael.
I'm out.
You don't have my phone number.
- yeah, I wasn't gonna text you.
When you're out, living your
best life.
I was in the pool all day by
myself, exactly.
Where you deserve to be quiet.
That sounds fantastic.
It was very quiet.
That sounds, fantastic.
Normally, I don't like that
stuff, you know?
It was kind of nice.
Okay, I get out with Nate.
Yeah back.
Yeah that sounds got out.
Went upstairs for a minute.
Watch TV.
A little bit came back then
wipes.
Shut up like oh hi honey, what's
in the pool?
Oh yeah, I haven't been there
today.
All right.
Well hey let's roll into be
dogs.
Fun facts.
Welcome to Cigar Hustlers
podcast feature.
Fills, fun facts.
Or be dogs from things.
He said, I just beat us roll
into it, just go.
All right.
There is a small country wedged
between Argentina and Chile
named for its tobacco and cigars
called lesson Tillis.
The tiny nation is only 30
square miles of land.
Making about Washington, d.c.
sighs.
Andy has he said I'm a white car
lashing tail, East Taylor, stir.
This little country is more than
just a cigar Haven Roll Tide.
Actually, I'm a roll tide.
Fan are you in fact, have you
slept with your sister?
I don't have a sister but if you
if you had one would you have in
fact it's named for after its
tobacco Fields were found during
the 16th century because of
Lawson T has a similar sized
area Nicaraguan was named
Santiago de los Caballeros
Caballeros, Caballeros, St.
James of the Kings to Earth, St.
James of the knights, to avoid
confusion between the two
regions.
Oh, really?
How many camera bouncing, an
amazingly?
What an amazing.
Fun fact, right?
That was good.
That was something else.
I was just fun fact.
I love my post on to
Connecticut, but I'm really
excited about this cigar.
I really want to like this bad
boy up, I can't stop smoking
nonstop from the four corners of
the world.
All Cigar industry news, you
could possibly need the cigar
Hustler podcast report, it might
take a good one.
There we go, atv/mc a releasing,
The Navigators a TV.
It says 80.
We had the, I don't think they
say the word, I think it's a
DMV.
I call him Advil, and the
Navigator Ponce de Leon La
Llorona Corona.
De PCA, 2012 de Lyon in search
of a TV.
BC a convention and strayed
show.
Both of which are new sizes for
an existing line sighs.
We're Not Gonna read you more
than what does the well?
No, I mean I don't even know
whose add adventure adventure of
the Navigator lying.
I know Adventurer.
Yeah, but they say ADV have ad
and then the next paragraph they
have ads Ventura do it.
Navigator line will be adding a
Ponce de Leon, 6x6 Igor.
Do that comes with an MSRP of
$13 per Guys offered in the 20
count box.
Let's see.
Also getting a new size as the
La Llorona line.
A limited production line that
only available to the company's
Fleet retailer Milo Rona.
No, 644 Corona.
That will be priced at $16 per
second.
Well, $60, if you going for
tobacco, get the bigger when
it's $3 chamber.
Well, this one's special slim.
It is cuz I say it's limited the
buddy, come on the La Llorona
legal limit Debuted in 2022.
Initially offered a five by 50
reboost over Tola it gets its
name from a character in Latin
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Oh, Like, work Studio, dart,
poison dart, sorry.
Oh, where's the studio?
Poison dart to be PC, a 23-3
exclusive release like label
traded companies.
Given retailers, who attend the
2023 trade show, the opportunity
to pick up an exclusive cigar,
everybody's exclusive cigar.
I mean, you know, I gotta admit.
Well, first of all I like the
fact that people are doing the
exclusive PC a scores that's all
so long as they hold it to be a
yeah you got to be a good person
to do the right fucking thing,
right?
Not to say well, we might do
money.
So here to go some right there
was one they overly stated, it
was peace in silos of the guys
went.
Well it's goes up as long as
homo right Somali by.
I mean not like works.
We have no problems with it, you
know.
Yeah, I know here but you know,
I've been kind of what I don't
want to having her on her
Facebook.
Even have a nice lovely for
healthy that we have.
You know what I mean?
Yeah but I don't know if I'd
call anything.
Poison anything that I'm about
to ingest.
Oh you can put in your mouth.
Yeah, just kind of scary.
Yeah.
What did we call this?
One.
Death.
Black works.
This will kill you is because
there's like the Bumblebee, the
Hornet things of things.
Those are all cool sting you.
Those are all cool.
You can put him out against
thing.
Yeah.
I like those.
It's think those sound cool.
Yeah, no that's cool.
It's not called Well, poison
dart in that a frog.
Yeah, yeah, the poison dart
frogs writes a frog but it's
this point.
I don't know, makes me nervous.
It has a Brazilian model Fina
rapper like my own - so like as
a marketing Ploy I would
encourage everybody to like do a
post.
Yeah.
Like if I owned black works but
all right here.
Listen, when you get the cigar,
I'ma need you to take a few
drawers of it and then like,
give us your best convulsion
where, you know, Keel over and
whoever does the best like died
thing.
Yeah, we'll get a free.
You like to sponsor a gun?
Test.
No, I can't.
I can't make anybody mad.
They having a shorter.
Busto, a Corona Gorda That they
only had an egg restore factory,
but I'm just filled with all
these great ideas men's crazy,
you know.
It's because I don't drink that
much of a lot of brain cells.
Yeah, that Nation muthappa
Foundation, Ewing at the PGA
2023.
We take the CEO Dimension last
week on this show Charlie.
So it's been verified.
We verified that we verified
very much.
They see our company is often
times turned to Nicaraguan
historical figures as an
inspiration, for its cigar
lined, and the one of the
company's new its lines would
continue that trend.
It next month, 2023 PC.
A convention, a tradeshow
foundation Foundation.
We ship Paseo, do you see if
this scenario would be subtle
sealed in The Meta?
Meta top, Ameri met at a, at a
table, a cigar inspired by Ruben
Dario Dario, if Fame Nicaraguan
poet.
As, for the cigar line Ecuador
in Sumatra wrapper, over
Connecticut, broadly binder and
filler is from Nicaragua Which
one is it?
What was there?
A go ahead, Ecuador and Sumatra
wrapper and it's over a, what?
Connecticut, broadly binder and
filler is from Nicaragua.
He told us all this on the show,
they say.
Yeah, but that was it.
I don't remember that.
I was last week, like many
foundations other cigars that we
made by AJ Fernandez and
Nicaragua, there are four
regular production sizes planned
each box pressed.
This isn't a softbox?
No no that's the oh come on a
soft box.
Press Charter.
Okay yeah and with Penelope or
whatever it's called, yes I'm
here.
Until the end until it and that
was until her independent owner
Toro and a double Corona 1550
14, 15, 16 15, 18 dollars
respectively.
The new line would leave you
weird sit down and let's say
it's a tribute to the poetic
soul of Nicaragua.
It said, Nicholas Malala,
founder of foundation and owner
of a what sound of the
underground bunker in
Connecticut and Connecticut, the
press release the Oh Castle.
Ruben Dario is Iconic.
His know he has Highclere Castle
signs.
He does not have a castle.
Oh I get those two mixed up.
It's okay.
Sorry.
All right, GTO makes Thirty
Three Oaks.
Connecticut Toro.
Elegant GTO the.
So the so the Pontiacs are
they're getting involved in this
groans.
Yes, yes, okay.
Stare GTO cigars that a new size
to its 33.
Oaks Brandon be purchased at the
2023.
PC, a convention at Trader Joe's
clue Civ, exclusive exclusive.
The 3305 getting sorrow Elegante
is a six-and-a-half, it for Toro
extra, a new size for the line
that debuted last year.
Uses a Connecticut shade wrapper
grown.
In Connecticut over Dominican
tobacco grown on the company's
farm and the Dominican.
I'm guessing the GTOs.
Is it the cigars your age for
total of 12 Years?
Do which happens, it's bent in
Bourbon barrels.
Also 12 years.
Oh, 12 years, but two of those
years are in Bourbon Barrel, two
years bourbon, 12 years total.
Yes.
Which pile of must be made of
American White Oak.
Does it come with a backpack?
No, no, no.
I get some knives.
No, okay, well I got a cigar
production is limited to 1000
boxes of 24.
Cigar GTO says, it will only
sell the cigars to retailers a
place orders.
During the 2023, the rescue will
be Iron or sell them after.
This is Q is something.
This is the one where I thought
they made quite a point there
Jay.
London cigars.
The Ripper getting official
related to PCA 2023.
The Ripper is a official
release.
That means already been released
before.
But this is would be official.
I think this is the one where
they said they had released it
before.
Maybe Oh no.
That was having down there.
Never mind after getting in a
preview at the.
Oh no, this is it.
After going to preview at the
tpe February and making some
appearances at other events
where they probably just didn't
sell as well.
So they're going to carry it
over to the next one.
Well no, I mean, you try and
build a little bit of hype.
I can see.
I understand that.
I understand that logic.
You get a ripper at the teepee.
I did not.
It's Jay London, the ones who
make the phone booth.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, you know, we tried
carrying in the store, it just
isn't working.
Yeah.
So, you know, I mean I'm not
saying no, I'm just saying, you
know, didn't happen right now,
you picked them up last year.
Was it last year show?
Yeah, yeah, like the guy?
Yeah.
Very nice.
Yeah, the cigars, a five and a
quarter by 50 robusto the uses
an Ecuadorian carajo rapper,
Ecuadorian Habano binder fillers
from the Dominican Republic.
In Nicaragua, the cigars are ten
count box with bands with
individual cigars project at
1299 not $13 1299.
Oh, Bit less than originally
announced price of 1380.
Let's kill the back.
Yes, one thing hasn't changed
its tpes that one cigar box will
come with a custom tobacco
artwork on it. 01 box.
Is that once again, yalom only
the one, only the one,
specifically a dagger, and some
drops of blood cut from a darker
Leaf of tobacco.
And then a fixed into the cigars
or a, oh, you know, be cool.
If they all came in Tombstone,
boxes can do that.
Coffin as coffins can't do that,
we found that out cigars are
produced by Martinez cigars,
which headquartered in New York
City because all the good cigars
come to New York City, New York.
City and produces cigars, both
in Manhattan and in the
Dominican Republic, I don't
know.
Probably some Dominicans out of
some make sense.
Yeah, male dies, topes topaz l/d
ratio, PS dopes, topes tops.
Tops has COPD you at the 0ps
topaz is a Spanish word.
Tapas.
Not definite.
A, not a oh, that's the muscles.
Like some people.
They like to tell.
This is the Tempest, we get
naps.
No apps will be a new regular
production size for the middle
deist line coming.
I think we're sort of just
dragging them LDS out as long as
it can.
I don't know man.
I don't know what they're doing.
All knew when they you know they
got the whole Luciano thing that
way that's mentioned.
I'm sorry.
Imagine it ground has is that a
new regular production but Toula
for the line that beaudin 2020,
Melody is tops tops.
Tibbets is a four and seven,
eighths by 56 per a ho with a
pigtail, like the rest of the
middle is line uses in Ecuador
in Habana.
A rapper / Nicaraguan binder
Miller's from Costa Rica
Nicaragua and Peru.
So it's the same cigars,
different size changes things.
Yes, yes, yes, yeah.
Have an MSRP of 1225 / cigar and
we'll come in boxes of 20.
When I begin shipping and stores
in August, We felt the timing
was right to expand the
melodious range and this will be
the largest ring gauge to date
in the brand to John.
Huber, co-founder of crown
heads, in a press release, we
found the larger ring gauge.
When combined with a shorter
length, really allowed the blend
to open up and express itself.
Emphasizing the unique floral
notes and sweetened green tones
at the melodious become known
for.
Well this might be the first new
regular production size for the
movie is the company is
released.
Five different melodious has
wow.
Let me date additions over the
years.
Most recently the Mary Otto's
Mary Otto's Which began which
began shipping in April of note,
the two Marriott those limited
editions have used in Ecuador in
Sumatra wrapper, instead of the
Hub, and only found on the
normal.
Cigar LDS of produced at taka
Nixon EXA.
Talking mixer.
That's all one.
Word.com Nixa.
Yeah.
Not the next day you're
thinking.
I don't think that EXA not Nexus
Factory.
Led by a Rowdy oppa, charred,
though the chardo.
Look at it and saying, building
this debacle are Pichardo.
The fact it made melodious when
the line debuted factories name
change is likely related to a
split between crowned heads, and
Luciano cigars formerly known as
Ace Prime.
But the winds made cigars at
debacle are Pichardo and
September.
It's hard to keep track of all
these couple honor and Nixa.
Since September, twenty twenty
two.
The two companies separately
announced a distribution
agreement that saw Crown heads
distribute.
H Prime will come to an end and
October.
Previously Luciano announced he
received in production to its
own Factory, in announced a
secondary factor in esteli that
he will take by force the names
Spanish, 4,000 Days, running out
of time.
The past between, when debacle
are Pichardo Factory, gave some
samples allegedly allegedly to
That's terrible.
So funny gave samples to Luciano
the crowned, heads of the mill
Diaz as all just kills where we
don't know what's got confusing.
See, Wildfire is getting away
know as Pichardo is not in jail.
Yeah, but charge was not in
jail.
Apparently, he's fine, right?
And he's making cigars, or
chronic you were.
Yeah.
Did we day viewers?
Very happy with a viewer?
They've Huber Dave.
Huber, it has name is Dave, I
don't know, it's not Dave.
No, it's not Dave.
Just Whether it's his brother,
it's John's brother.
Dave, John's brother, Dave dad's
brother is Jo and John, so it's
tailings.
Dam wildfires getting a new
cigar at the PCA burn ago,
Nitros at the PCA stole his
Wildfire, making it out of hoyo
or no.
Do you know how?
I don't know.
I just said that I got tired
after those four pages of
releases for PC.
Next week I'll be worse.
Yeah, stolen Throne debut and
Yorktown Fleet at the PCA
without us, but now The
Oktoberfest again but it's
really weird-looking sighs.
It's like fat on wondering than
skinning and fat again.
You know, the one like a dumbo
kind of a 1 its 1 in fatter than
the other.
Not hugely fad but bigger than
you know like a goddamn bow.
Yeah like that dumbbell.
It's not even on both sides.
Yeah.
That just sort of lifting of
this way.
Yeah, makes sense.
And finally Not very well press
release.
I roam a press release, most
tiny Connecticut to debuting at
the party.
And I'm very well.
Press release little wordy.
Michael, really flowery, you
didn't use the right website.
I did.
I use the chat GPT, the a cafe
them fed him the wrong
information.
Well, you know what, next time,
don't go on vacation, the new
long-awaited puts tiny
Connecticut, will be on hand at
the next month. 2023 PC, a
convention and trade, ya buddy
don't have to be, had to buy.
It will use any, yeah, at first.
But yeah, everybody can have it
all the good retailers use an
Ecuadorian Connecticut over
Pennsylvania, broadly binders,
and fillers from Nicaragua.
Like the other post on your
cigars is being made of fábrica
De tobacco's, Nicholas, sueno?
Yep.
And Nicaragua it is, the First
new regular production Bostonia
since 2015, the company's first
year of business wow will be
four sizes a Toro for $12 or
boost over 11:20.
Make do for 11:20 and a
bellicose.
So for $11.40 that Toro man.
Hold we are shit brailled to
whenever you want to read your
own quote though.
So it's in your voice.
I want to know, I want you to do
it.
Oh, we are thrilled to announce
a tiny Connecticut.
Blend to the market said Mike
step on cabbage co-owner, post
Anya and a press release.
Indeed team has dedicated
extensive time and expertise to
craft a cigar that exemplifies
our commitment to Excellence.
The Connecticut shade rapper
adds a touch of refinement to
the and providing a smooth and
delightful bold, smoking
experience.
We are confident that our loyal
customers in new enthusiasm
enthusiasm alike will find the
post 90 Connecticut.
Blend to be one of a kind as
well as the it is, and how to
get released at this year's
show.
Yeah, so what I said, got very
bold statement.
So what I said it is the best
Connecticut cigar at the show.
Fuck, everybody else will begin
shipping in Late July or early
August.
Yeah, what I did including that
is the question of one Secreto
wants to do the red leather
expecting change.
Yeah, Tinderbox.
International was suing a former
franchise in Maryland.
Uh-oh, this is interesting so
you're going after Tinderbox
Maryland.
Yes.
What Tender Box International
the franchisor of The Tinderbox
brand is suing one of its former
franchisees.
Yeah.
For trademark infringement,
breach of contract.
Raj.
You're to pay royalties and
missile misappropriation of
Trade Secrets.
What Trey, it's the cigar and
she was right.
That do I did Tracy had to
redefine the Trade Secrets.
The store is the Box Waldorf,
which is now called a business.
That was part of The Tinderbox
franchise Network.
For 25 years.
In February of the stories,
franchise licensing agreement
came to an end and the owners of
the store listed as raj SI NG H
sing.
Yep.
And Sumit Gupta.
Sumit group decided not to renew
the franchise agreement.
Yeah.
Tinderbox Lockwood's.
You broken up the four basic
parts.
There's no benefit to it.
So the first well you know these
gentlemen getting Raj.
Yeah, you're good dude man.
Alright, the first trademarks
were lightweight.
Heavy came from.
It's pretty all that's right.
Yeah.
I know the name.
Yeah.
It's pretty straightforward.
Tender Box.
International claims that the
store rebranded itself as the
Box Waldorf Maryland.
Yeah.
Which Tender Box says, is a
trademark violation, it has
produced evidence showing that
in. some indices the store just
covered the tender portion of
Tender Box and replaced it with
the I saw the graphic.
That's not a very good job.
Raj, got to do it right, man.
We'll do it.
Come on.
There's also a variety of claims
and storage continue to use.
The Tender Box name on signage
branded goods and bags of loose
cars.
We gotta get rid of that shit.
Got get rid of it.
I doesn't know what the fuck.
Right as of June. 23rd, the
stores Facebook page still uses
Tinderbox name in various
places.
Some, I just lazy and oh my God,
didn't give me a fucking break
and you go through it.
You had 25 years of fucking
pillaging of fucking retail
store for no reason.
Take the W and move the fuck on.
Taking the name off his Facebook
page okay but whatever, you know
what I mean?
You know what?
Like this?
It's worth suing over say, hey,
just met.
Hey, there is some purpose of
the lawsuit.
I think some of the things they
just added to be frivolous but
the most part part of the case
that there's a variety of claims
stork NATO where Reddit arguably
the most important part of the
case, is the third count.
Breach of contract.
The Tender Box International
claims that the franchisee, the
franchise agreement contained a
non-compete clause.
It prevents a former franchise
owner from operating a business
within a 25-mile radius of the
former franchise is sell similar
products.
It specifically mentions tobacco
coffee, expresso products, pipe
smokers accessories, and
supplies for one year, after the
franchise agreement comes to an
end.
So there's that.
What the fuck?
Ever?
Hold on.
It's just so ridiculous.
Your bike turns also claims that
the defendant failed to pay
Tender Box.
International its royalty for
percent of gross sales for
February 20, 20 30, it's only 9
days.
Come on, guys, fucking February
11th of 2023.
Tinderbox internet for nine, ten
days 4% 4% for 10 days.
Dude, I thought it was like a
whole last year I didn't show
you.
The Tinderbox is just so fucking
irrelevant.
It also claims that it's
entitled to liquidated damages,
which would be 6 percent of the
gross sales for each month, when
the franchise agreement is being
violated.
There's also a count pertaining
to the misappropriation of Trade
Secrets.
This is interesting.
Tell me the secrets I want to
know.
He can't tell us all the
secrets.
Let's call rajan's and short
tenure.
Claims that the defendants
continue to use Tinderbox
International systems.
There are systems that you're
using the training, The
Tinderbox provides to its
franchisees the training.
The fucking truth.
You're kidding me.
Systems are using their systems,
the training.
How can you prove they're using
the training you?
Come on, we need you to sit down
and watch this video.
Don't pay attention to the name
on the front.
It's not, this is learning to
love Tinder Box, right?
I mean, holy shit, I need to
love.
Make sure you say, Ox, make sure
you say hello to your customers,
greet them with a smile 1928.
The first centralized location
was opened in California by Ed
Koch.
Flynn in 1959, Copeland began
franchising.
The Tender Box named Andrew to
be at its peak.
The large, especially tobacco
retailer in the USA Today.
Yeah, peaked in high school.
It's over, man.
It's over your fucking, you just
do it now.
You're just doing yourself a
disservice.
There are 23 locations listed on
The Tender Box International
website, one of which is the
retailer and question.
So they're still listed as a
anymore still listed as a
website.
Good luck with that, dude.
Okay, how does that play out?
You suit.
Okay.
So like you sue, let's say you
win.
Now we're bankrupt.
I mean we like to see how much
that was not mentioned in the
story.
So ridiculous.
But they usually have four
percent for nine days.
You give me a hand fuck.
All right here's the seven
dollars will give me.
Give me a fucking break.
It's the trade secrets.
I'm sure the most has got to be
the Trade Secrets, right?
Secret the systems and the
trainings.
You like to send this that we
would like to implement the
train entered cigar has learned.
See if it would help the fuck I
would I appreciate the way that
we our systems we might have.
We man our Trade Secrets, maybe
while you're gone, maybe we
happen to come across some of
that blue.
He's like a little snippet of
what it looks like.
Is something from the HR
department or something.
Get something from a jar.
Keep your hands to yourself, do
not touch the surrounded by Men.
Please do not, please do not
grow other moves, sundress thing
going on upstairs.
Right now, you need to watch
this video.
I need you to tie up only, you
know, I make eye contacts.
And finally this week later, I
received a text message from
Hunter row, who runs Riverside
cigars.
You did.
Yes.
Oh, apparently from Karate Kid
Fame, mr.
Martin Over better known as mr.
Cobra, Kai, John Kris is in the
shop, and join a bdp cigars
sweep.
The leg Johnny, it's right.
So, Martin, if you're watching
or listening, I like to
personally, welcome you to Team
B DP.
Thank you very much.
That's fantastic at this photo.
I'm excited for you and that was
that it was a nice.
I'm like why is Hunter texting
me little 10:00 at night?
That's cool.
Yeah.
Was it was I was glad he did I
thank them for doing it.
Yeah, it's cool that you know,
you know what as much as I love
Jeff and I love Jeff.
I really love Jeff.
Yes, if you don't know how much
I love you.
Having Hunter run.
This store is like breathing
fresh supplies, and, and he's
active on social media.
He's engaging with people, not
only in the store, but outside
on the interwebs, a semi
somebody out that posted the
picture.
I sent you was somebody else's.
That's amazing that they tag
match, Cigar Bar it.
That's and it's got to be hard
with the, you know, raising the
baby right, you know, baby,
right?
They they Martin moute combo.
Collaboration and collaborate
Clan, you Nation Nation, the
nation.
The clan new nation.
I'll get my speech.
Is where it off.
When you think, I just had a
stroke.
I have a listener week in the
shop of the week, I should have
weighed this.
I guess you can't throw away
years.
Yeah, you have a listener of the
week and the shop of the week.
Yes I do.
Okay, this is loose, that's bad.
All right.
Listen to week is Hunter row,
it's very nice and I wonder who
I I'll cannot let me, let me
guess.
Let me guess, let me guess.
Good job of the week is
Riverside.
Cigars match. 22 sir.
Is that the the right next to
each other Max is like the
bourbon or whatever.
Yes, where is it?
Do you know where it is?
It's in Kentucky.
No it's not you fuck.
Oh try to cross the line.
That's right.
Close it's a completely
different state Jeffersonville
Indiana.
Yeah I was gonna jam it, get it.
No no no.
I never knew never been.
I've never bleep place here.
It's why they just redid the
patio outside out back.
Oh yeah over thing overhangs and
nice long Turf Hunters idea.
I'm sure Jeff was threatening
about it a couple years ago,
right.
I'm sure that in the process
Hunter, heard him mention it and
I will help torch in your face,
right, please, Tony Hunter
without question Jeff's busy
with the cocaine with the horse
and yeah - the coke.
Remember oh yeah.
No comes out.
Hey just hey.
Hey, no Coke a there's still
cooking can't get good cocaine
in the garage.
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
You know.
Need it the PCA you don't wanna
get in trouble with drugs.
What did you have talked to
Michael?
Will you discovered last week
who has the good Coke at the
PCA?
I don't know what's a good Coke.
Nicholas know the rap.
Oh Alfredo that's great.
So is your connect for Coke?
Yes.
At the BC, allegedly, allegedly.
I'm not sure, that's really,
that's okay.
Every once in a while.
All right, so this has been
episode.
I'm sorry.
Do you have anything else?
Michael?
We had a phone call scheduled
for today, but it didn't work
out because somebody dropped the
ball.
I kind of fucked that up.
I can't do everything.
I feel like you should though.
It was your interview.
You said it up.
B-dog do you have anything bad?
No, I do not.
We appreciate the excellent
work.
Mr. Dog.
And we might want to talk to you
about Contracting you for the
rest of the season.
Yeah, be fantastic.
So yeah, guys, that's it.
All right.
Spit episode 287 in the cigars
or pocket.
Next week will be our big PC a
show.
PCA.
Is it?
Yeah, cuz it's the third Monday
is the third I believe.
Yeah.
But I'd fly on the seventh,
right?
So it's four days later so you
flat-out the end of that week.
So that would be the last show
before the PCA I got it.
Got you.
All right guys, we gotta go
catch us on patreon Michaels
gonna talk some shit about maybe
you can talk some shit.
Alright guys, bye bye.
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