Cigar Hustlers Podcast Episode 274 All Saints Cigars

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Welcome to the cigar Hustlers.
Podcast.
Episode 274.
Or with your host, Michael the
kings that Von karajan, his
producer, Mike Beebe, Palmer,
and me I'm Phil your cameraman.
If I remember correctly, the
last time that I was someone's
type was, when I was donating
blood in the blood drive.
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So Ann Marie and John.
I've got butter.
I could but my Angry account
there in town.
Oh, oh nice.
And they want to wreck about,
and we walk to the garage and
they said, oh, this is the rack
about.
I said, yes, this is there.
A matter of fact, I like the
touch and they, like, look at
this thing.
It's fucking awesome.
I got, I know, I told you.
It's awesome.
So John's like, how much are
you?
How do I get?
How do I get?
The New York McGee, we can get
it to New York John, we can get,
I just a little shipping issues
and no problem, we got it there.
You're good to go.
You can put all kinds of things
on there.
So, stay tuned after the show.
We're having another special
with Mickey Peg from All Saints
cigars.
We have to do it that way.
Yeah.
Why don't we duel as we would
you let me get my booth Manuel.
It was only last week.
Yeah, I know, it seems like so
long ago.
It was just last week.
How was that one?
I haven't heard anything from
anybody comment on it.
Or what?
No, not really, very quiet.
Very quiet enough.
I feel like a lot of people
might have been on the old
spring break last week.
Maybe it'll catch up.
Yeah.
Well we still are you sure we're
on 274 the show?
Yes.
What are we doing for our
patreon?
I don't know.
What are we doing?
We are doing, give me this the
vi.
Hey, honey.
And hand grenade.
Kuro ho all carajo blessings.
Oh, now to say sorry crows out
Leaf.
I put these the, the shape is
pointy.
That's what it's pointing,
that's it, actually, whatever
for the description for cut it.
I thought I was trying to figure
out which end to cut this, so
these, which was really kind of
funny.
Is, this is always a condom
after.
Yeah.
It's a condom and know it's a
diaphragm, be reasonable.
You got to shove it up there?
Putting up in Natchez?
Yeah.
Oh, so that's why it slides on
our locator.
Yes.
Yeah, it's a bad.
You go nice.
So normally these are gone was
soon as I put them on the site.
Oh, but they weren't gone spring
break.
It could be, I don't give a
shit.
I'm gonna you.
No, I haven't smoked on it
forever.
So I'm excited to kind of smoke
this and we're going to do
special pricing for five packs
for on the patreon for patrons
of the patreon.
Yes, don't get bad, boys.
Do you need to put the foil on
the way?
It who gives?
We normally way with cellophane
on whatever another question,
what's going to?
What's the weight for pointy
fifteen point five grams.
I don't have pointy on my thing.
Exactly, I don't know, all these
specially.
I think a 654 last week we had a
weird shape too.
So there was no actual.
But I'm excited to focus when I
was there.
Was sitting there like, man,
fuck it was just go smoke these,
what was the way 15.5?
Excuse me, fifteen point.
Five grams, what's your
question?
Do you cut the end of it?
The smoke it, not the smoking,
sign the show.
We just had a whole discussion
over here, not the smoking sign.
You cut the rounded end, the cat
know this is, you know I mean
your draw a first should be
pretty rough but you don't need
to cut it.
No got it.
Oh there's a light in.
No no it's not be like with a
fuzzy foot see you're coming in
so aggressive on my guy.
I took the mask off, it made me
very upset, I'll put it back on.
Wait to see what the next one is
for April.
Oh, you already ordered it?
No, I need to do it today.
Did you see it?
So, you know what it is?
I know what we're getting.
I gotta be honest.
It's the highlight of the
fucking show.
I don't know.
I don't know why you get.
So that's what makes me.
So, just a joke that he did, you
set him up for and, you know,
the fact that he doesn't read it
before, I just love all - efface
now.
Yeah.
So you a stipend.
Was of was somebody needed my
blood.
Now that's about somebody's
type, I can't get blood.
You can't give you never
anybody's type that like because
you have AIDS.
No, I was in Europe during the
mad cow disease are and now
you're a mad cow.
No they don't know if you have
it until you have it.
That's what's wrong with it.
So you don't have it mad cow as
of, right?
This second I don't because what
happens when you have it you're
mad.
Start moving a lot.
What happens tomorrow?
Why are you dying?
Had it then he didn't Craig will
be usually die quickly.
Oh, it makes you crazy like
dementia.
Yeah, so I went on the show this
week Jake.
Yeah.
We hijacked the Facebook Lite
EVP of the mirror pool right
here.
Reinard ringer reinard, the
other three squirrels in your
pod.
We hijacked I like I like the
fact that I have a squad that
kind of just rolled, we're all
it in and take it over.
Kevin.
He like you're his biggest
mistake, was he started liking
our time?
Engaging oh, Green light.
Here we go gas on the fire.
We had to go get Jet Jet.
Come on rounded tip.
He's responding.
He's just wanna he just brought
his a good time, you know.
I'm gonna tell you.
That was a good.
It was a fun podcast.
It was, it was different.
Yeah.
You know, very very limited his
with the peoples that the watch
it.
Yeah.
And he's obviously educated.
Y'all need me most of them were.
Yeah, it was cool.
I had a good time, you know.
But I guess it makes a
difference to when you're
totally An honest all the time
because I'm fucking him, right.
I felt like they were gel and
because of that, well, I love
for the first hour because he
started, you know, tell us when
you were born, you know, the oh
he went way, way back.
So I was conceived back of a
Buick station wagon when a
quarterback you down here in the
back of a Corvette, how would
that work on it?
On it on it, on it on it.
Oh yeah, you're dead.
You're dead, father.
I blasted my mother and there, I
was wrong.
You're doing it wrong.
And there, I was I was going to
talk about something else, ma'am
out of fuel.
Damn.
I think this one is to wait,
incoming.
Look at that.
Phil johnny-on-the-spot.
Uh-huh, I'm not using this fuel
on My ASU the pond, by the way.
Please ignore.
Let me go to another camera,
please.
Ignore the man behind the
curtain.
He's not important, he's not,
he's not using it.
I'm using this lovely Espinoza
letter, her husband I'm using.
You can also fix your lipstick
in the orange St.
Du Pont fuel for my SUV.
I swear, I went boating over the
weekend say right now.
If I can send this thing in and
they said well we watched what's
0274?
You're fucked.
Oh.
So you watch us?
Yeah that's what happens
everywhere looking at.
Well that's great cause we like
talk about sponsorship.
I have something I have five
news.
Okay I've news.
Okay cameras on.
You know, I did those videos
your for now.
I did those videos for Adrian's
High School.
Yes.
Or our production.
Coming to the videos.
Radiance High School.
Yeah.
Well you write the HVAC guy.
Got an award last week and he
called The people, he goes, how
did I how did I win?
How did I how did I get this or?
I don't know who they were?
It was from, it was from, from
National HVAC, teacher
organization or something.
Well.
Okay, so he does a see, guys
zzi, they have an HVAC class at
Adrian's school.
They teach conditioning, they
have two of them.
One of the guys wanted to work,
they said, to be honest with
you, it was the videos on your
school's website that puts you
over the top above everybody
else.
And that was you, that was our
videos.
So what did you get a hand job
out of that one?
Nothing out.
Well, I got a lovely plant.
I thought the fucking plan
gotten a me.
Old sandwich, a bottle of booze
Scorpio.
What kind of booze?
Whoa, what kind of with a bottle
of rum?
I don't care what you like.
No, it went to sandwich.
They have a culinary class there
and ah they cook me up a
three-course two eggs, three
course dinner at 3:00, I don't
know what it was nice.
It was some type of meat and to
vegetables and some cornbread.
Well I thought we thought
everything was like split
though.
Where's my third of the Sim?
I did all the way you didn't get
anything and you didn't show up
for the three trips, I had to
take but now we could parlay
into To paying gigs at other
school.
Very nice.
I just want you to know that if
I got the sandwich and you
didn't do any of the work.
Yeah.
And it came with my product
wasn't a sandwich.
I would give you a third of the
size and just saying, what you
came to the house, whatever the
case, maybe I'll put in
tupperware on a broad.
See that.
You know what to have leftovers?
I'll bring it tomorrow.
Yeah, my wife has been coming.
Here, has been hard in the paint
for me as of late.
She was going to call him, but
she's, you know, obviously I'm
doing stuff with John Amery this
week, right?
But I'm going to tell you, let
me just recap that she had like
a list.
I just like jerk and everything
that I've said in the past.
The car will drove over the
cones.
That wasn't entirely me.
I am very sorry for that.
That was totally me.
But, you know, she feels that I
paint her in a bad light.
Like like, oh no.
Yes you do.
I do.
I don't think that I do.
I'm more scared of her than you
just so you should be, she's
nice.
But I will tell you that, you
know, I couldn't pay less.
I'm in a protein shake.
I couldn't tell you the last
time I had to do.
Handle my vitamins.
I mean, she, she stopped doing
worse.
Know she does, all these things
still she cooks my chicken for
my week, my meal prep.
This is recant.
I'm just saying that this
mending.
I had the best fucking wife on
the planet.
Your wife sucks in your wife
sucks in comparison.
It's just sighs.
I'm just saying what it is.
It's just it's just faster
script.
No, is it, you reading this off
your that out, I just want
everybody to know.
You're not be so much of my life
and my wife is amazing, read all
of this, my wife is amazing.
So she almost has like I'm going
to come in with John and Emery
stop in.
Yes.
Oh, you know, we were supposed
to watch come in to watch live
lessons.
Wanted to come in she hurt her
foot or something.
Yeah she's had has the fun.
She gets Maria has the fuck,
she's got any issues, but she's
feeling a little bit better.
Now it's the knee.
I thought last time it was the
foot now it's the knee.
Yeah, I don't know, but you're
making me feel like I'm a
terrible friend.
Now, for not verifying, put
anybody, but I'm pretty sure we
just need for if it's neat.
If it was the foot.
Now, it's Annie.
It's going up and it's gonna be
also, ensures is the Lancashire
was just knee.
Yeah, I thought it's a fight.
I thought you had like a boot
on.
Did you have a boot?
I thought, yeah, she did have a
futon last night.
Maybe she did it.
Yeah, you're right.
It was the foot first and now
it's the knee.
It's gonna be the hip and then I
don't know anybody like me, but
she wanted to come in today.
She be like a friend but you got
to get those new bionic chips.
Phil, no boot has the fake hips,
everybody.
Oh yeah, your film yeah.
Phil has the mad cow disease.
It's a matter of time before he
goes moo and then kills over
right.
Just goes crazy over it.
I feel like you could give
blood.
Now that's a question.
They ask say no you're fine.
Oh okay.
And then I kill someone or get.
Thanks a lot fellas.
Here we go.
Michael Mike production just
kill one person at a time.
Let's let's have you.
Not one of them?
What's your blood type?
You know, I don't even know.
I've never even know your
fucking idiot.
I know.
I know, I'm not the universal
one.
You know what?
You're not that important.
I bet.
Tia knows.
Yeah, Tia was surprised
motherfucker.
He's a B+, right?
You know what else did I do?
I do.
I had a pretty easy week.
It was kind of nice.
Super chill surprise.
My wife always goes.
What's my company doing?
Like oh I don't know.
That's because we invite you to
something sometimes and then you
guys don't show up.
It's true.
Yeah, that's why.
Yeah, what are we going to turn
down?
What are they doing?
Well, are you coming the baptism
thing?
No, because we gotta go to, I
can't say what it is, case.
They're watching.
I'll see you when I mean, oh,
that's right.
Yeah, that thing.
But here you go, there you go.
So getting your lovely gift just
like what?
Lovely, I'm not getting anything
over the children.
Okay, we've already worked it
out with your wife, she's
improved.
It, you give me popcorn.
No, I'm not Zach.
Jonna threatened to send
popcorn.
If he did, that doesn't arrive
in.
Time.
Tell me.
That's what he sent it.
I know he showed me.
Oh, no, he told me.
He said, take this out.
I said, oh, that's nice.
It was for the kids.
They're gonna have a, make a
mess your house.
Look at.
Okay.
What else?
If he doesn't send it in by a
fucking April 8 though, I'ma
tell you right now, I'm going to
we're gonna call him on the
show.
That's what we're gonna do.
We're gonna call on the show.
You're released, he's at the TA
this weekend because for the, he
berated me for my brother's
wedding and I had nothing to do
with that shit.
And then when he Grant runs into
Greg, what does he do?
Oh Greg, I love you so much.
You know, it's okay I wasn't
alone.
I was nothing nothing.
I do have a question.
Something that's been going on
social media.
We got one question.
Okay.
Why is how about that?
Cigar Coop bear and smoking
tobacco?
They're all just doing each
other shows lately.
Last, couple of weeks, it's all
about.
You see, then this week on, how
about calling us that?
That see, that's the other part.
Well, he's not calling me.
I mean, everybody calls you
coops not calling you.
He's he's not, he's not enough
used to acknowledge.
Oh, yes.
What?
He's really resented.
My media ranked number one, you
get.
Yeah guys.
We get To it the other day about
the number one, they did have a
back and forth he's mad cuz
we're number one.
Yeah, yeah basically it's what
he's saying that the he's saying
that it doesn't check out, don't
be mad join them right?
It does it doesn't check out
because the math doesn't work or
something.
Yes.
Anyone know how I got the
information to make us number
one?
It was not my website, I had
nothing to do with it.
Making us number one, right?
Right.
Could if you want, you should
just blast that I read.
Well, that's what it is.
He's you wanted to hang out when
he was a told you, right?
Yeah.
And there's gonna make it work.
I didn't Sunday years and I had
the right thing.
I don't think things.
Hey Wesley.
It must be time for Phil's
facts.
Are we had 16 after the show?
At 1600, got a notice.
He put the mask back on and he
got his views getting ready for.
All right, music for film funds,
fact.
I know what I need to do that.
Yeah.
Okay, I'll get it.
Hey, do you want to do music for
sorry?
Phil, get nervous.
Do you want a new intro and
stuff for for this show?
I mean, we've been the same
music since the day we started.
No.
Okay, just ask.
I like, I like music.
Okay.
Yeah.
Because you see the new intro I
did for the other show.
No, it's nice.
It's good.
Okay, that's why.
I just want to know if you
wanted us to have a new one to
go ahead, Phil Phil's fix.
All right, all right, fellas,
give it.
This is a long one.
Oh great.
You only have till 17 Justine
okay.
Giving a different meaning to
close but no cigar the CIA and
Cuban exile.
Group spent 50 years trying to
kill Fidel Castro.
They tried poison pills, hidden
and Cold Cream jars, they placed
explosive mollusks, painted in
Vivid colors, and one of
Castro's favorite diving spots.
The one that the one that
captures our attention, of
course, was the idea of having a
New York City.
Cop, give Castro exploding
cigars during a visit to United
Nations at sepsis in September
of 1960.
The idea some say, was that,
when the cigar exploded, And
Castro would be shamed, others
reliably report.
The cigar had enough power to
take Fidel's head off, never
happened.
Another idea. 1960 was to
contaminate a box of Fidel's.
Favorite cigars with poison, but
the cigars never reach.
Castro by one count Castor
survived.
More than 600 attempts on his
life.
That's it.
Are you saying?
That's where they got the close
but no cigar still.
Yes.
Where did you get that?
Did someone hand you that?
Or did you look that one up?
I look it up.
I don't think he's handing me.
I know I thought it came from
back in like the 20s when they
had like a county fair or
something, these give cigars
away as prizes and you know, you
throw the ball close.
But no.
Cigar that probably makes the
most sense.
Makes more sense not Fidel
exploding.
Yes, exactly.
Yeah, I did hear the exploding
cigar thing but none of the
multicolored painted Molly.
You know down in the water.
It sounded attempts.
What kind of half-ass fucking
operation.
That's embarrassing right?
You think we didn't get it done?
Six hundred times I feel like
they didn't want to get it done.
Yeah.
It was something they lined it
up so that you know, did you
like they ask the person who the
person is going to handle the
assassination plans?
They probably put crayons in
front of them and if they ate
the crayons and like, yeah, you
have your our guy or the guy.
You, okay, figure, this, you're
Expendable, you got to figure
this one out.
Kill Fidel.
Like what?
For Dale, I gotta kill for Dale.
Who's that?
Who's that?
Damn it.
Dad Feller.
Who's dating?
My aunt.
It's crazy.
How far technology has come.
I don't get it, I don't get it
either.
They don't use exploding cigars
attract kill people anymore.
Yeah well now we could just send
a tiny little rocket through the
window.
Right well he's dead now.
No I'm not talking about.
That was a Fidel.
That was 601.
They got him with the last.
Finally got him.
Finally got him.
No I'm saying like it's me a
bullet to size of this pain.
They can go through windows and
turn left and then up the stairs
and hit anybody in a toilet,
like the guardian.
Oh, ya just whistles!
Yeah, know what I started to do
this week, kill it out.
I'm done now.
Uh, I started kill his brother
to watch.
John Wicks over again.
Oh, well, for has you worried
for number four?
Yes, I started to watch them
with Jax and Brittany.
You are some with it with a kid.
I watched him jack.
Wow, Jax is.
Okay listen, just got it, really
like killing.
Yeah man, what's up?
It is nice that even gratuitous
or like really bloody and I'm
bringing you that I broke it
down.
I'm like look I'm like here's
what's really cool about this
Benelli.
You know, like this one has a
bullet on the side of the
shotgun and he's going to slide
it in while he's fucking working
through this entire room.
Just asking everybody, right?
And I'm like, you see it?
You see it, you see it.
And then like I see how it's
gone.
He was just Boop, and he's like,
okay as look.
So so we watch number one and he
almost walked away.
I lost him for a minute.
Yeah.
When did I lose him?
What it had the end of the
month, where you don't know, I
don't know, I don't know.
Quit during the movie.
He quit and walked away.
Jack's are generally Jacks.
Oh yeah, he quit.
Okay, it was just a bunch of
killing know they're like a
nudey scene or something know
when the dog died, right?
At the beginning, when the puppy
was killed, he said, okay, I
don't want to watch this and he
gets up and walks away.
I'm like, fuck, what did I just
do?
Like, that's the turning point
of the whole movie is about,
that's why I had to bring them
back.
And listen, this guy, this is up
the next 17 move.
I like this guy is about to go.
Ballistic on everybody because
they killed his fucking dog.
All right.
You can't if you walk away now
you're emotionally scarred for
the rest of your life.
Yeah, but you get some back
heat.
There is Redemption for Daisy
was the dog's name by the way.
Oh there is redemption.
What movie does?
He explain the dog.
Is that the first one?
Still number one?
Yeah, so here so I don't know
how this all that seen the other
day on Tick-Tock.
So I don't know how it all ties
in.
But I feel like there's a lot of
things that are intertwined in
all of these movies, that kind
of lead up to the how this is,
Going to end up.
Oh probably, yeah.
Now is it over?
I did.
I don't think so they just did.
Another one didn't.
Yeah, it's a really sport.
So I'd like to go see number
four with at least Brittany and
Jax.
I don't know.
I'm gonna do the other two kids
but that's what he's saying.
Number for supposed to be the
end.
It's number four, the end.
That's what they're saying.
I can only end if they kill him.
Well, the money, he's got to get
the Mustang back, right?
And oh, and he doesn't kill
coming.
So I feel like common should
come back.
He might have asked for a lot of
money.
Oh yeah, you probably didn't go.
So you know, Like you start
picking up on all these little
nuances throughout the show.
Oh yeah.
Oh shit.
Oh, oh, oh, okay.
All right.
So, Yeah.
I mean I'm excited.
I want to get I got to get one
more out and you know, and then
I'd like to try and take them
this week to go.
See number four, I started
watching the night agent on
Friday, the night agent on
Netflix, okay?
It was really good.
And then last night, I was up to
130.
I watched episode 5 6 7 8 and 9
and then finally what like it's
1:30.
I got a I got a little bit and
then get up and finish 10 this
morning.
Hmm.
But at the end of your lips, I'm
like, who's in it?
People have never even seen
before, nobody important.
Now No, nobody pay.
Is it one of those like read the
word movies?
No, no show the key there.
Sutherlands in that looks like
24 but it's not 48.
Is it?
I've heard good things takes two
days.
Twice twice as long twice, as
long as they got more money and
20 episodes.
I heard a thing the other day he
that he is one of the worst
actors that anybody's ever
worked with either Sutherland.
Yep.
He's a prima donna and he likes
everything done his way and he
doesn't show up on time, green
Eminem's, goddamn it.
What about did you watch that
Luther yet on Netflix?
No.
Well, I did with the devil.
Yeah.
Good, right.
It was good.
It's a show.
It's a movie, it's a movie.
But it's a series of movies.
I can't find the other movies,
though.
I don't think they come out yet.
I think they're gonna really
been out before I thought that
has been wanting to out before,
because, I mean, they set that
up to go to the next level.
I don't know.
I've only seen that.
I don't watch Netflix that much
anymore, right?
Unless it's like burka, sure,
you know, some type of comedian
thing because they all come on
that.
He's got a movie coming out.
Yes, Did you see the Chris Rock?
Stand up on Netflix?
I've seen parts of it, I haven't
seen the light.
I saw the part where he slams,
what's his name?
That was the best part.
Yeah, well, yeah, well, that's
the best part, you know, I feel
like what happens?
These guys crush it with the
stand up and then they go over
and over and over again and I'm
just like all right, you're not.
It's just not from you're not
funny anymore.
Yeah you can't beat the dead
horse.
The only guy who I have seen
consistently show out.
That makes me fucking laugh over
and over again is Chappell.
Well, because this Original.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's not taking, he's a fucking
genius, you know.
But yeah, Chris Rock.
I'm like saw that one coming,
you know?
But the difference about
Chappelle to is like, having
hard to hide, its don't think
he's funny anymore.
No, because it's the same stuff.
Yeah.
It's the same thing over and
over.
Suppose those real though, it's
like what's going on right now,
right?
And it's all real.
Yeah.
Like one of the Kanye stand up
on SNL.
I fucking died.
I thought it was hilarious.
Like cancel me, I don't care.
Good luck, my ratings are fuck.
Going magnificent.
Yeah, somebody's gonna pay me
somewhere.
So yeah, just skip to the end
for the Chris Rock things like
us here, there was a couple
things you're funny but I'm just
not like, I'm still the number
one show, the number one Coop on
two different Services home,
never go anywhere, and we don't
know how they figured out.
We don't care, we don't ya?
We don't, we don't sweat the
details and we don't think tank.
All right, if you look at the
list, it shows us at the top.
But now we know, let's get
Rollin to some news buddy
because we already got a nose
ring.
They're about the TAA, nothing
to report.
I know we have some things.
I like, how Coop did this whole
thing of 39.
The what But to TA people have
to do what they have to do.
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If you heard it, I don't even
hurt.
Yeah, he's a big deal.
Oh, he's doing price.
Increase is a PG.
How much more can he?
I mean his cigar zurich's
percent across-the-board his
cigars are expensive as fuck to
begin are they?
Yeah well it's just I didn't do
the story.
Again same thing rising cost of
Labor raw materials baggage in
total the unforeseeable sir.
Yeah congrats 24.
It's not the Silicon Valley Bank
tanking.
That's not cigar 2024.
Yeah, the 2024, they're moving
it to March 22nd through 25th
but still in Vegas.
Yes, what happened to the other
spot.
Okay, here it still go to go to
number three real quick, listen
care.
Some inside baseball, shit that
you ain't got a fucking hear,
anybody else?
Because no one else is going to
say it, but they'll say it now,
cuz I'm gonna say the number one
show, that's why after Las
Vegas.
The next PCA it's going to be a
New Orleans, so that's 20 25.
Yeah, they haven't announced it
yet.
We're number one, your fucking
welcome.
Number one, I bet camerton.
Where did you get the
information?
I'm here?
I don't give up my fucking
sources.
Well, the head because we're
number one.
Yeah, we went back to.
Well, I'll tell you what.
If it happens you fucking know.
You heard it fucking know and I
told everybody before anybody
else knew, if it doesn't happen,
I'm a complete schmuck.
So there you go.
Happen right here, and that's
two years right away.
Orleans.
I don't know, just wait and see
premium cigar Association or at
least has announced at the 2024
PCA convention trade, show will
take place March 22nd through
25th at the Las Vegas Convention
Center, while the dates and
exhibition Centre is subject to
significant changes to Saturday,
through Tuesday, format of the
trade show Remains the Same.
It's a smart move.
You're moving in, on peace TP,
who really doesn't give a fuck
about us anyways, and Nobody
wants to be in Vegas in fucking
July.
Nobody so fucking hot.
It's hot.
It's the summer like as a
retailer.
You want to be in your store.
It doesn't work gonna miss the
summer league though.
What will be okay.
So I'm going to be all right,
you'll be fine.
Yeah, this marks a significant
change into PC, a convention
trade show, which historically
has been hosted during the
summer.
For most of the last decade the
event has been held in July last
year's trade show.
The PCA told the members, it was
considering two options of 2024,
New Orleans in April or Las
Vegas in July.
The other chose a different
path.
So they just went with July and
are the wind with April and
March and I was gonna say, they
decided to do March in Vegas.
When they're going to do now
Orleans with the move to March
the board really feels.
It is optimal time for the
industry as retailers.
We able to place orders before
the busy season hits and get the
new and exclusive products on
the shelves, when the demand is
the highest.
Now, if they come out, if they
do the show in April, you still
not getting stuff to the fall.
Look, man.
And they can say what they want.
But don't listen apparently.
Yes, you need like a ratio of
90% of the fucking people say,
can you move it out of the
summer?
And then they'll do something
different, which is great.
Now, look, I'm not totally
shitting on the PCA, they do a
lot of good things, they fight
for our rights and yada, yada
yada and all that's important.
Well that one guy on your show,
he really won guys, very very
Patty very passionate if he's
watching a tip look at the
camera when you know I like that
I like that.
You like that he saw his
forehead, he likes his anger, I
could I could feel it.
I mean I've so much to a point
where like I'm fucking thing.
I need to be on the PC a thing.
When that thing goes down, I
guess I should show up.
You send an email and go to the
thing right?
Yeah.
I was kind of, I was kind of
convinced he'll be there.
He brought you in.
What was his name?
I know it was a cool name Tom No
Fredo.
No brick.
No.
And there was actually really,
oh no Jim, I'll go back if l.
No no it can't he's not feeling
Richard mace mace.
I don't know.
I'm so confused with the names
and who is the lady that
breathes heavy?
I don't know.
Yeah, we don't know her name.
She just very she she'd read
really heavy.
He's making noise, I got to her.
She didn't say a word when I go
back home, right before the wind
would blow.
I wish we didn't really there's
only on the show.
That's good.
There's a good chance.
A Greg Zimmerman president of
PCA executive committee.
Plus we anticipate, the many
retailers who are not able to
attend the summer when business
is at its peak, will able to
attend the industry's largest
event.
This will Mark the first time
the trade show has been at the
Las Vegas Convention.
Since 2018 tradeshow best
remembered for the small fire
that broke out in the AJ.
Fernandez, the hard, the hard
part about it.
I've ever been.
I have anybody to give it.
Maybe that was pretty funny.
I don't think it was, you know,
the hard part is it always smell
like fire, you want to release?
You want to have the PCA when
winter is gone because the
entire north of the new Ooh,
world is not smoking.
It's fucking Frozen.
So you have to do it.
You can't bring it to January or
February.
So it doesn't make sense.
Well, February's, tpe.
Can't do it.
Then you could go after TP and
hit it.
I don't think they do it the
exact same time.
Well, they could be another city
looked EPA over.
It's a number doesn't TB.
Doesn't give a fuck about
cigars?
No, no.
They don't know where this big
in that in that whole Cog, just
kind of shifts of it.
So if it changes in March, then
you could say that everybody's
going to not going to I think
so.
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, that's what they're
playing.
That's why they moved it up.
Yeah, they it's TV push.
There's bags.
And then I push back a little
bit more and I'm like huh.
You want to fight?
Okay.
Fight.
And I think that we need some
type of dance-off between the
head of TP.
And if you want to meet him to
have a man that would've been
amazing to walk around going
challenge.
I challenge clapping my hands
challenge challenge.
And then we'd have DJ Chet.
Just we can, we can we can we
can we, can we Busting it out.
Yeah.
I mean I would ask for a rap
battle between the to you but I
think that wasn't a god.
Well-known of been great.
So some type of dance off in the
oh great.
Right?
So determine who is the king of
all media cigar media, you know,
I mean, he can be the king.
I do want to be, we're just not
really be at my side thorn in
his side, right tan pants at the
white show, who does that.
Number two, is number two,
number two, number ones.
Number two, number twos are the
thorn in the side is that no,
number two is where.
Ten pants of the way.
Oh yeah.
We would not, we would wear
white white.
Why you have backup white.
In case our white for many
years, ain't your organization
and attendees have looked to
move the trade showed earlier
time of year to give retailers
more time to take advantage of
the traditional discounts
offered around the trade show to
make the trade show, more
attractive to attendees who
don't want to go to Las Vegas
during the summer.
But normally the trade show
discount deals and shit.
I mean you can get those without
knowing that happens a lot.
Yeah.
And a lot of them can get duped
into buying some stupid shit if
the discounts really good.
That's when you know, you're
about to get fucked.
This is what it is.
You're gonna be sitting on all
that stuff.
No one wants it.
There are also two competing
trade shows that take place in
q1, the TAA, which is going on
right now.
Haha, the top, the top and the
TB, then the to zoo.
And the freshly Zimmerman
mentioned that the tobacconist
Association of America, a
smaller retail organization will
be moving, its annual event,
which typically takes place in
late March them, and did not
mention the new ta, they also
got the TA to push those back.
Yeah, it's nice.
Everybody's everybody's playing
a lot.
It still doesn't make sense.
If you're going to teach TAA to
go, to pce PCA.
Oh, you don't think you need.
What about the PTR there?
Involving those are not PTA.
No, no no no FBI.
The FBI, the CIA.
The what about the FDA know?
They don't like it.
They don't like people, they had
a booth.
Well, they did questions.
Comments.
Nobody went there.
Why is there were throwing shit?
But there's another cigar
attitude.
No reason.
What's no scientific evidence.
So, do you think?
I think, okay, why this is 2023
now.
So the next year the TPP no
cigar people teepees cheaper to
go to, right?
I'm not go to but due to do you
know, I'ma tell you right now,
here's here's the way I stand.
If I'm going out to Vegas in
March and not July, I'm not
going out to Vegas in January or
February 4th, right?
Oh, I understand you.
Yeah, so okay.
But I'm looking At it from a
retailer standpoint.
All right.
That's why me retailer.
Not media coverage because God
knows we don't really cover
this, the to love to find out.
If they're going to to the
cigars, it came out and I have a
place to sit.
Well, we're not going TP.
It's true.
We won't go next.
Yeah, yeah.
So, what was your question?
That was it.
I think I remember.
Yeah, I was thinking there was
another year but before it
happened, but it's not.
It's next year because I think
it was with there be some
purring off, but they've already
had its own.
Oh, it's going to pull them and
they run.
Yeah, they just gonna just right
just go right out.
Nope, not going.
And we're done and TBE know if
everybody called TP and said,
hey we don't want to get our
booze and we're not going to go.
They'd be like okay well this
one of the blue carpet.
What happens to the people that
have already bought because some
people like the MTP had bought
for the next EP.
You know they're fucked, right?
No refunds, no, no, sorry sorry,
no co-star, you lose your
deposit but the real question.
The real question?
Yes.
Do the big four?
Go back to PCA has Drew Estate,
go back to PCA, I'll try because
now they go to TP e, dot dot
dot.
I think they should come back, I
think they should do baby come
back.
She don't do you can see how the
music we in trouble.
And this is where I got ended on
that.
Wasn't that wasn't a song.
That was that song?
I'm just talking It's too close
to three, you get three and
you're gone.
You're off the reservation,
change the name of the show
again and make it the background
and yellow.
Yeah.
Nowhere else to go houses
podcasts are not warped
podcasting are hustling
podcasts, and number 16, number
16, garnish, of Stella.
The number one podcast, cigar so
start with, uh, cigar.
So we get on that rating for The
Cigar show.
So a cigar Muffler because your
muscly Garma slur soccer
monsters podcast.
Right, I'll start working out
again, shit.
Yes, I got a Florida story.
Yeah, other than that, it was
all ta and I'm stuff in the news
of the 39th, a releases.
How many of you think people are
gonna be excited about?
And that's why didn't cover him.
We can't get them and I'm
reading won't see him.
I think maybe to which on, so
liked the Su named five and I'm
like, okay, mmm, like the
Espinosa Murcielago that came
out 48.
Yeah, the one.
Did you smoke that?
No, I haven't yet.
It!
Is it a different?
How did you not fucking smoke it
and the drawer for you to get
when I die?
Oh, perfect.
I'm gonna look at Eric and say
where the fuck is my ta a
Espinosa?
Because that way you'll think of
me every time you smoke one for
the week, I'll be very upset
about.
I'll cry low, you'll cry.
Little each time you like.
But is it a different Murcielago
or did you just put the gold
baton?
Are we getting inside baseball
on things now it really talk
about patreon?
Yes.
Yes.
I want to know how she's if it
would say.
Is it a special vitolo?
No, it's the same at all.
Yes, it's the Box.
Press with the band.
Probably changes the flavor.
Hey, what's going on?
Their cigars on the app.
Smoked one yesterday.
He had one motherfucker gets
everything he do.
You know what I mean?
Golly are you gonna tell me
whatever?
He's a sweetheart of a guy.
He is Hey, it's hard to start.
Here we go.
Floor.
Start loredana.
Florida is home to over 90 types
of mosquitoes.
Oh yeah.
But we have a new one.
Oh well there's 91 came in.
Okay, let's get the species of
mosquito.
Normally found in Central and
South America is now growing
population in Florida.
Species is known by scientific
name of kulaks lactate or Lot 8
or 88 or lactic Gil goes for the
milk.
Yes, we can milk the first
discovered in 2018 in southern
Miami-Dade County, but has since
been found in Collier and Lee
counties and And may have spread
elsewhere in the state.
According to the scientists, at
the University of Florida, can
we milk the mosquitoes?
I milked mosquitoes, I see a
whole Market coming in the
nipple.
You can note though.
I am nipples.
Greg, can you milk me scientists
say they've been enough research
about species to determine its
potential disease risk in
Florida?
Is home to about 90 mosquito
species, including as many as 17
non-native species, some of them
are disease.
Spreaders, pretty an illness,
like West Nile, Virus Eastern.
Equine, encephalitis, This
Dengue fever and all right, help
me out here.
Chicken ooga Wooga and others
uh, I see you in gu Nya that one
time said, no good.
I hate to have chicken number
one, go-to camera through real
quick.
It's gonna be a new Campbell
Soup.
Listen, chunky chicken nugget.
I just want you guys to know
Florida filled with chaos and
disease, death, so many
mosquitoes, it's so bad here,
please don't come, don't come We
are the redheaded stepchild of
the United States, that's for
sure.
You don't want to be around us.
It's not worth it.
I wear these too dangerous.
All right back.
All right.
Hey, let's finish this story.
Snake.
Scientists say, the curie's
python is part of the insect
group that transmits West, Nile,
Virus Halls, St.
Louis succesful itís.
This is gone.
Streamline some politis, no st.
Louis st.
Louis Encephalitis.
The st.
Louis version.
But it's not known whether to
come with us, like, Pacific Rim.
Style, as you bring.
These are probably I know I'm,
my wife might have him there
contribute to the spreading
those diseases in Florida.
They also say the detection of
non-native species of mosquitoes
is increasing with six of the 17
in Florida.
Being detected in the last five
years, they also say climate
change.
May be improving the chances of
more tropical mosquitoes global
warming that machine in Florida.
Also April first starts
alligator mating season.
Oh they start on April?
Yeah, they know when the data
they know the date, that's when
they start getting the same
result.
That's exciting.
Could I see your question?
Is there a god dinosaurs here?
Heart.
It's chaos dinosaurs by one of
my neighborhood.
Yeah, I know.
You told me, yeah.
Oh, they kill the dancer and
Amanda.
I've nominated him.
His alligator Wrangler for the
neighborhood.
We have, it's Philosoraptor.
Yeah, it's gaining popularity on
the face of the alligator
Wrangler.
Yeah, yeah.
I'll get a ring.
He's in charge of all
alligators.
Now becoming, you know, the
Tyrannosaurus Rex.
It's here in Florida.
It's what, you know.
It runs around.
He does have little hands Terry
them but they use on his belly.
Yeah, the alligator Wrangler.
No, no, the alligator.
Oh the last the transports Rexel
you did.
He bring the Lactaid mosquitoes
zone of lactate ever like
torque?
Yeah like tour like Tori and I
still liked or the Lactaid
likely the milk.
Yeah that's why.
That's why I said it like door
is the one that takes it.
That's why I say we can milk it.
No but he can milk you.
He's like 20.
You think there's a guy that
just follow these mosquitoes?
We have a Red.
Right?
I mean, they catch him.
It's got the one is that the one
about, you know, like the
Monopoly guy?
He's got the fuck man.
What is this is?
This is a GU likes lactate or
lactic door.
My wife is pregnant.
You'd like dating.
I thought it would colored liked
it or in the history books
forever.
Yes!
I am famous.
You like select it orbits Quito.
May we will call it like the
door.
We have a shot with the week,
Michael.
Oh, why would time we have 41?
We're perfect.
Do you have a shower?
I have a listener of the week.
Oh, I don't have a shop of the
week.
Listen, our week is mr.
Adam, a curry, do the birthday
boy, the birthday boy.
Did you see his wife's lovely?
Post them and it's her best
friend and her lover.
Oh really?
Yes, I said, I know I said happy
birthday but he's just my
friend.
I put it up on Facebook, just my
friend.
We don't we're not having sex.
I'd like to bring that public
right now.
I'm not having so, are you sure?
I'm positive.
I'm positive.
I don't know about that.
I got questions.
Nope.
I'm pretty sure he's a handsome
man.
He is but that beard would be
rough.
You think so?
Yeah, a little rough.
No, not not, not not on my skin
is very delicate like a gentle.
Yeah.
Maybe caressed.
Yeah.
That's good to know.
You should know Michael.
Come on.
I know act like you don't know,
but I have a little bit beard.
Mmm.
Yeah, but it's not big like he's
very manly.
Yeah.
That big heavy equipment.
I have equipment very masculine
men.
Still not having sex with him.
This is why we're number one
says yeah.
I never heard Coupe.
Say he had sex with me, the hard
statements.
But a shop here.
Yeah, he shot.
Michael.
No, I'll just pop out cigars in
the cigars in the envelope
because he gets all the good
stuff.
I have one what all that gunk?
Blue Havana in Chicago.
Oh, no way.
We haven't talked about them in
years.
Oh, there was the man that came
to see you.
We could talk about him for a
minute now, who's that?
He came from Milwaukee and I
missed them.
Shu LZ was his last family.
Fortune was Paul Paul.
Solt Paul scholes, Souls Souls.
Souls is a very, he's very
excited.
He read about you in a magazine.
I'm not sure exactly what
Magazine asked quarterly.
Hmm.
I feel he doesn't get that uh
2023 Man of the Year, my stepmom
cabbage.
Well, but this is the guy the
post on years ago.
Oh not about you specifically
about your cigar.
Oh and he just got back from
Poland when he saw the Articles.
He's very excited.
Well, I'm sorry.
I missed you Paul your brother
was very entertaining but
whoever time yes.
Oh yeah, that's good.
Yeah, we don't let him out much.
So no.
We never praised him.
So stop saying he's a bitch.
Stop saying you like it, cigar
better mmh.
Which access to the website by
the way that shit went sideways?
Doesn't everybody likes Justin
website?
He got so angry.
What does?
No, I gave them back end and
then things got jar.
Build up.
Do you think it wasn't me?
It wasn't me.
I feel like it was you much, but
it's okay.
I'm not, I'm not mad because I'm
Meg cigars not getting enough
praise, he probably didn't, I'm
not mad.
Mitch only the combined Jose
caban.
Oh there's a Bradley feeling
good in me, but I'm gonna need
to see a boozer.
Habana purchase it from you
though it's all.
I'm Shane.
Oh, no.
No, that's it.
Okay.
Remember after the show today
we're going to make you pay gone
from All Saints cigars.
It's a nice little 30-minute
bumper, its it was a nice little
earner of you going in early cuz
we have that then.
Yeah.
Well, we're all right.
All right.
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Yeah, practically free.
Do it now, do it?
Do it now?
All right.
Let's go and we say who fill is
on the other show, too?
Yeah, we talked about what else
we gotta go back.
You want to do the intros,
welcome cigars or podcast
special edition today we're
sitting with Mickey beg from All
Saints cigars yes starts a All
Saints and Center sorry but I
would have been wrong.
Yeah I don't want I don't need
that phone call.
Hey looks like the fleur-de-lis
oh yeah.
It's a st.
James cross nice.
So so you're at tpe, right?
Yeah.
I saw you every time so I did
like a and you kept walking and
then I was like I'll just catch
you next time, then you walk by
again.
I was like, hey and then you
just kind of kept going with
that fucking whatever I was
talking to you guys.
I didn't talk to, you know, I'm
stocking stockings, hang on the
Espinosa but so very easy for
you.
Just for you just playing or
just kind of roaming or what?
No, no, we had a, we were in The
Pavilion.
So we've got you I think our
third year in the Pavilion so we
were just sitting in Espinoza
the most part.
Yeah.
Just Espinoza Room 101.
Yeah, it's weird.
Harass my booth and then walk.
That's probably why we always
saw him, right?
Yeah.
Been harassed Jack like he
didn't get enough at the end of
the trip.
And yeah.
Well Richie, yeah, you know, it
was really cool with Richie is,
he's very easygoing.
When will you see him?
If he knew the oh no, I'm
thinking.
Alfredo never mind.
When you see him at the shows
and stuff, he's always He-he's
very hey, what do you need?
Can I get you anything,
whatever, you know.
But when he when he gets into
business he's like, hey get the
fuck out of here.
I need the chairs, I need the
chair, I can take the pain out.
It's it's time to do something.
So what were your thoughts on
TV?
Let me ask you that.
Yeah.
So we had to push him like
little closer to him.
Yeah.
We such a deep voice.
It really, it doesn't carry as
well.
Ha well, no, I mean we with when
you talk about tonnage and
amount of dollars that we did,
we're very happy with it.
Yeah.
Good amount of or Is that I took
not so happy with, but where I
was really excited as a young
company as you guys know, is
that the people that were
putting in deep second and third
orders.
Yeah.
And some of those territories I
haven't really been to yet or
are done events with these
people yet.
So that's a force multiplier
that you got to do to keep the
stuff.
Going to get that second and
third turn.
We were very happy with.
So right, you can look at it, a
bunch of different ways.
Yeah.
So but would have liked to have
gotten more Orders.
I could tell you, like, people
from the East Coast where I'm
pretty much pretty dominant.
Yeah, there, there was a lot of
people there that weren't there
or I did follow up orders with
okay, so I was happy with our
numbers before.
I did those follow-up numbers
that we don't think we put into
tpe because we were happy with
those numbers, right?
So we'll just put those in
another kind of column for
organic March if that means
anything.
Yeah.
So you don't have a sales force
or anything or do you or know I
have Brokers.
So.
Okay, so you, I mean, that is
kind of a sales force.
It is a sales force, but just we
have a solution for Arizona
right now.
Yeah, working on something for
SoCal because that's a little
peculiar, you know,
California's, California and
then, you know what's?
My guys are.
So I got the flyover states
with, with the time of Klein was
Garrett.
Now, Andrew and Raul doing those
other states.
The other flyover states I have
My king, who's doing great for
it, Tom classes and great for
each time and King who's in the
Mid-Atlantic?
Who's your favorite broker?
Who's your favorite broker?
You gotta have all your
lightweight listen to us.
Yeah, this is not one podcast.
No, no, we're very low.
Yes, cool.
Yeah, my Patron.
Or my who your favorite is if
you thought for one second this
is going to be an easy.
Fucking podcast was with With
okay, between Tommy climb, it
really goes back and forth, so
whoever has the best numbers for
that month.
Yeah, those are pretty
consistent on a yearly because
you that one's your favorite.
Yeah, so you know when you're
paying your broker more than
you're paying yourself through
your little have those guys got
paid more than I did, I'm sure.
So yeah.
Welcome to running your own
business.
Right?
So Duty for so do you have
representation in Florida to or
no, I don't.
So I don't pick Alfredo because,
you know, I prayed o Cruise off
the firewall, wow.
The only guys I'd want to use.
I A capacity.
As you know I am I going to try
to talk to him in a couple days
down in West Palm.
Yeah I'm going a little bit of
schmoozing.
Yeah it's a little bittersweet
because right now I kind of
handle what I it's a weird kind
of map because you know it's the
old days.
Like Arizona's talk about
Arizona earlier.
Yeah I got a solution.
I didn't go there because I
didn't have a solution there,
right?
Okay.
I didn't want to go have to sell
it twice, right?
Hard enough to sell the first
time.
Let alone just like a second
time.
After yeah, it's like what we're
strategize about me.
Possibly Going in here.
It was like what's our plan?
And I love that.
So it's like when I go in with
somebody like a band, all these
guys, we lay out the 12 to
18-month plant.
You know what start saying, how
we going to coordinate these
things together and if
somebody's gonna bring all my
product in or good majority
where I have a great
representation, that 24 skews
has of a until is great.
A really good representation.
Yeah, that's huge.
We need to have a plan.
Like, what's the deal?
One of my coming in, right?
Can I, when are you coming back
again?
What am I gonna do?
Yes, it's normally what I do
when I have a broker territory.
Go in.
We make that sale and they're
going to support the brand, how
it's my opportunity now it's my
job to support them, right?
So first thing is a broker will
do like a soft pop or something
like that and then I'll come in
with a with an event follow that
up and then other things that
we're doing with social media
and those pieces like that will
do.
So if I don't, it's like the old
days when I was running CIO,
right?
If I fire somebody guess, whose
territory this is your judge.
Congratulations.
So New England is mine, okay?
Okay, Southeast Mid-Atlantic.
If you want to say it is.
Mine in Florida, is mine.
Okay?
So what I'm doing with Florida
is I this is not the route I
take as you know I was born and
raised in Daytona Beach to my
family.
My mom and stuff live there,
right?
But it's basically if he came
out of Tampa go across I-40 to
Daytona Beach, take 95 down to
West Palmer, Boynton Beach,
right?
And then go across Alligator
Alley over the Naples because
all my stuff is fulfilled out of
Naples right?
It's it all yourselves fulfilled
on tables.
Yeah.
Ah, Polly only does my phone?
They do my filming.
I like to call.
I'm in charge of the
distribution, right?
Right.
So it's called Booty.
Had That Old Situation where
they kind of did a little bit of
both, right?
So I didn't lie, deleting the
eight, you know, there's
distribution that's fulfilling.
So they didn't fulfill my, we
got to film a contract with
them, right?
Very similar with Nick, that did
with Alec gosh, Bradley or Alan
room, so, or Ralph, like, Tara
more or so, right?
So, it looks like I was going to
have to pay attention to that
little route from Tampa down to
Naples now on the other side.
Yeah, side.
So it's a little bit about what
I like to be in Jacksonville.
Absolutely.
Well I like to be in some of
these other kind of Suburbia
shtuff that kind of fall off
that route.
Absolutely.
But I got enough to write gonna
keep you busy because I want to
guarantee that I'm going to be
in those territories right now
which is Never Enough you never
enough but right no yeah that's
true.
Three turns a year.
Like that was part of my with a
band or two guys are those?
That they're going to see me at
least three times a year, right?
And we're going to do something.
We're going to do an event or
whatever we want to do and try
to Do something unique and
special and we're growing into
the uniqueness right right now.
You know.
So you're heading down the Great
Smoke.
Yeah.
Okay, so I'm going to go down
either late Thursday night or
first thing Friday morning.
So that's Friday mornings gonna
be a little bit easier or I
mean, Yeah.
Friday morning.
Right?
Well you guys are going on sack.
We're going Saturday morning.
Yeah it's there and back.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
But it's you know after after
our night with movie and Justin,
good luck.
Well we did last year.
Yeah.
Yeah we did it.
We do you know the boofie of new
is not the same boofie of old
you know I mean where he would
fucking get blackout drunk and
disappear or whatever and then
you'd have to go manage them or
whatever.
Yeah.
We're gonna look at a car or
something.
Yeah, you know like oh here's a
guy locally that he likes who
brings a car here now.
Okay.
Yeah.
Uncle Johnny.
Yeah he did that somewhere in
the midwest it was pretty funny
sales call him and all of a
sudden I'm getting ready to make
the sale and movie shows up with
some car.
No shit.
Another car fanatic one of
those.
It was Arkansas somewhere in
Arkansas, Fayetteville one of
the first podcast we did with
him Oklahoma's he disappeared in
New Orleans and he lost his
wallet and some other shit and I
was like, what the fuck
happened?
Then he actually broke the whole
thing down.
So, you know, I think that, that
guy's kind of in the past, he's
not, He's a father now, and as a
little.
Yeah, he's grown up a little bit
on up stairs.
Going up a little bit, you know,
get the helicopter.
You gotta and now he's got the
helicopter.
He's got the, he's got that STG
money.
Right some so, you did see a.
Oh yep.
That must have been fun.
Yeah, it was, it was great.
You know, before that I started
toward Sean Tobacco Washington
DC, and that was a great
experience at all.
It still looks the same as it
did when I worked there.
I started there in 1989.
There were really weren't that
many Tobacco shop.
How old are you 1989?
Yeah, well, I was I graduated
college and well, I was class of
91, who's all those little.
There's probably about same a
cooler if I'm 54.
Oh, I'm older than I'm 50.
You are the older ones?
Sometimes I say I'm 52 but it's
not like I'm hiding my age.
I, you know that covid York?
Am I watching?
Here is my football number in
college so I'm like, oh yeah,
fine, I'm 55 Let me finish over
the next three years.
So you did that when you were
young.
Yeah.
So yeah.
I was chasing dreams of working
on Capitol Hill and then, you
know, just real quick.
You know, I love telling the
origin store more than skip does
is that I had a chance to go to
dab it off.
And that we were going from a
broker to a drug sales force
that are going through some
changes and I was the new guy
and I didn't say no.
And I traveled.
Yeah, I can travel to what I you
know wasn't political Arena and
I I did have Florida.
That's how I met Dave, right?
And then I started doing all the
important Merchant trips and
then this guy, Raymond sure
who's the global brand
ambassador in the last close
friend of Zeno before he passed
away.
So, I had to do the Dominican
trip.
So, that's how I got a little
bit of national exposure.
I got you.
Okay, and then, you know, then I
had a short stint with flipper
goryeo and then Tim came in from
C a0 and brought me in as
national sales manager and then
I became vice president sales
and then they sold your later.
I was gone you're after that.
Everybody else was gone, feel
the girls here.
The girl in the group
filmography.
Yeah.
And then I went to I was already
doing the weekend warrior
program University of
Pennsylvania because John I was
paying for that Tim's dad.
And I finished that took about
two years finished, that I've
got all my registrations all
that stuff and sold, mutual
funds for Lincoln Financial and
finally, I'm like, am I going to
work all these hours?
I'm gonna do something.
I love so around 2017, got into
the point of me and Frank.
Leo my partner, put in the money
together.
Do you know the name up?
Too easy.
It was a secret investor, hear
about his Mark or way the guy
actually, let's just act like he
didn't give up, and this is why
the origin story gets really
old.
And that the fact that I've
concise it down this TV, David
up to e.
So who are those who are those
guys?
So, frankly, you get a lot of,
you know, Freddy that's Rocky,
Mountain, cigar fest with me,
he's gonna do The Great Smoke.
This is the first time we
actually have a booth at the
Great Smoke.
I went for the last two years, I
was one of the original Yeah,
well, when I was at CIO is one
of the original.
Okay.
Look guys.
How long has All Saints?
Been in smoking and smoking?
I want to say a year and a half.
Okay, so still fairly new.
So I wanted to the warehouse
first before the new warehouse
and then shortly after we got
into the stores.
So, okay, so that's the only in
the warehouses that just online.
So, what it's going to do.
Okay.
So yeah, so you can virtually
get anything any of our skews
from them because of that.
At and then not all skews are
represented in the stores,
right?
Obviously the way they he runs
is customer service so that's
been a big Force multiplier for
us in who's actually the first
show?
I was on.
Oh he shh his show is my ass
radio came and it was still in
the I harm.
Excuse me.
It was still in the old Studio.
Yeah, we were, I was leaving, I
did that once.
Yeah, I did it twice.
Fuck you.
He's 55.
So what time did you said you're
a big deal.
Vented iHeartRadio right before
that.
It was I stomach, you know,
somebody terrible idea.
Go further north, you know,
somebody commented on the
podcast about like one of the
listeners.
Yeah, they made a comment that
cigar Hustlers.
Had a foot fetish thing going on
and I'm like, well, that was
bomber, that was not however
that somebody reached out to me,
please remove your shoes.
If you feel my foot go over,
just a cigar, just relax, this
is gonna be.
Okay, we have a black leather
couch in the front row Um, we we
need to just sit there
afterwards as well.
Just heard some photos.
Where's the Press poll?
That's for a couple of pics.
So well now we know who is
private investors.
Are there goes my whole so who
we don't really care?
Is there another one?
I mean well there's two you have
another one who I was.
Don't know those bastards were
Partners.
What was it?
You're listed as having an
anonymous partner.
I think so yeah.
Did you feel that it's on there.
Michael has the wording flip
that paper, know your people who
said it out of it.
We have never offered with an
anonymous partner, right?
That's online somewhere.
That's yes.
Today is on the interweb.
So it's got to be true.
Love each other, why I often
tell my children like, when we
go to, do something cultural and
you see these big benefactors
and says, Anonymous is saying,
yeah, that's that's not a great
thing.
I'm glad I don't want to brag.
I don't like to brag the anybody
else, but the anonymous guy he's
me.
Yeah, it's me.
Do you have any other names?
We can guess, is he?
So, how did you meet those guys
about in the financial world?
No, no.
So Martin and I go way back to
college.
Okay, came really close friends
like a brother to me.
Yeah.
Because when I went off to
college, I, you know, I went to
Lopez twice because I got kicked
out once so I can have a college
once.
So then went off to college and
then we became really close
with.
Matter of fact, he's the
Godfather of my oldest daughter
and the only Godparent in our
family.
That's not blood.
So, right?
And he's that whole thing is
hard, bro.
Yeah, it's a lot.
Like, you know, you pick one.
I picked.
And then, you know, one time I
picked my brother and he goes
I'm not ready yet because I'm
going back to church and well, I
got Godfather, let's just do it.
Yeah, and we're pretty tight in
the Catholic Church.
You didn't have to have all that
stuff done to do it and right.
So yeah and we and that's how I
mean, it's a pain in the ass and
that's how I met Frank through
him.
And matter of fact, when I left,
she a oh we were trying to put
something together, then I was
just be honest with you.
I've talked about it before the
black dog was on my lap so bad.
Like I didn't have a Dubai Dia.
I didn't have any motivation.
A black dog?
Yeah.
Churchill used to call the black
dog.
The bad days.
Were the Black Dog, gotcha.
You know, back, you know, it's
and I'm young.
I'm, and I'm very stupid.
I've been, I've been the cigar
industry for too long, and I,
it's an old Churchill saying
that I kind of went to church.
It was big during World War Two.
So, I've heard of him, I thought
it was just a cigar.
No, no, no.
This is the carts.
I think it's real good or what?
Sizes, six, seven, eight.
We never know how big this
great.
Yeah.
Right.
So And I'm glad we didn't do it
then because we would have had a
lot more Hands-On, our pocket.
So you know me and Frank were
the most visible.
I'm honest, I'm obviously the
most visible right of 3 Martin,
you don't really hear about too
much.
He does a lot of stuff behind
the scenes and you know we do
have investors and the whole
thing that we got investors now
they own about maybe six point
eight percent of the company is
the cap of about eight.
We didn't want another boss,
right?
Yeah.
And so, you know, Frank and I
are always haven't In
conversations, Martin's not in
any of the lanes and no
disrespect to him.
He just, you know, he says, not
as things.
It's not, it doesn't put his
body up and we put our money up
and, you know, it's not as thick
as well.
We will hopefully get some
marketing stuff out of him.
He's starting to do that.
So, you know, so from there, the
whole Theory with getting the
investors were listen, it was
the old Tom Sawyer, he pay me
ten bucks, I'll let you pay my
fence right.
Well, bunch of old Cooks, the
rattled sorry Lenny, they are
many doesn't want.
Yeah.
Letty.
Listens and so did many like And
subscribe?
God damn it.
Yeah, become a patron, letting
the 50 dollar level, know what
we got to do is guilt our
investors into being patrons.
Yeah, exactly.
They won't.
Let me in the store.
And told everybody, we're going
to be members of the private
Lounge.
I mean, this is crazy.
We put that thing on Fred
Brewery that one time.
Did we, where you had to come to
the shop, like, 17 times where
you buy his cigar?
Oh, yeah.
That he's fucking solo.
That's like, almost any shop.
Not like crazy.
You know, excuse, there's a
light.
We kept count.
This is my fourth.
Visit to Cigar Hustler is the
fourth, the fourth, and the
second time that I did, my
flight arrangements around my
trip.
I appreciate the efforts that
you're almost, you're getting
very much.
You want to December got
canceled, so I had to change my
flight.
What a fucking bummer, dude.
No.
But I mean, it's like, you know,
I'm going to tell you something,
because we're totally candid
with you.
I'm very, we're very open.
I mean, I've had only like a,
I've only had a couple
conversations with you but I
don't know.
I just feel like you kind of get
it.
You understand a lot about the
industry like, you understand
when Bullshit being sent to you
through a retailer and then
someone just kind of being
totally grand opening.
There's always time for growth
so I could tell you that I will
give the bullshit to other
people and I have.
And like there have been times
where they'll counter back to me
and be like, oh well that's odd
because blah blah blah blah.
And then I want to fucking
counter back to them.
Say okay, well, here's the real
breakdown, right?
Like your product sucks your
fucking over price.
You don't know how to Mark, like
I could say all of these things.
But instead I'm just saying I'm
a past with you, right?
But you know, with you I'm like,
Hey listen.
The the time and you just
fucking off, you know, that was
conversation, right.
That then that's open and honest
with.
Well, the funny thing is I'm
down drinking nuts.
So I had the same appetite as
skip I like except I don't see
like to order five meals and try
a little bit of everything.
Yeah, I can't consume the amount
of protein.
Yeah.
I just I call him the protein
guy, right?
Especially beef that he can.
And, but a lot of the things
that Frank or not Frank, that
that skip like I like right.
And so we're down there and
we're drinking our Florida
Connie and Mexican Coke with the
ice up to a certain level.
Then the Mexican, the Florida
court has got a certain level in
the tumbler than the, the
Mexican Coke comes in or well
Nicaraguan cook down there, and
he goes, I thought you were
supposed to be in Florida this
week, like, well, let me tell
you a little story if your boys
fuck me, that's happened.
So, I changed my trip before
dried Sage of the Nicaragua,
because I had some stuff out of
work out before we close out the
air.
And I knew I was gonna be back
there in January, but you know,
those are I typically like to be
there before the factories
closed and there after they
open, right?
Okay.
Take over the out of it.
Just to make sure, you know,
these conversations that we are.
Remember I talked about before
and they don't review.
Yeah.
No, no no.
But you know, being a squeaky
wheel gets the grease, right?
Yeah.
And that helps especially when
you're an absentee owner, right?
Of a brand.
You know, I'm a brand owner.
Oh yeah.
Or it's like I skipped.
What's a designer?
Whatever you want to call me.
That's what I am.
But you know I want to have as
much hand And to have a Kusa
gives me that ability to do
that, I couldn't have that with
some of these other people that
make cigars true, like, you've
dealt with skip, you know, who
idea what, they're almost almost
the same way.
Like, I call it blending bowling
with your kids, you know, you
took your kids, bowling, they
guard rails up.
Yeah.
Right.
So the ball doesn't go in the
gutter, right?
Amica helps in Amica and Herbert
make sure that my ball doesn't
go in the gutter where were
working on, right?
Yeah.
So that's cool.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like that.
I like, that's a good.
Good analogy.
Gee, you know, Skip always on
me.
I'll throw you in the pool, but
I'll make sure you have the
floaties, right?
Okay, or to each other.
Well, that's how I learned.
How to swim here in the ocean.
It's Timmy.
The ocean.
My uncle's made me go back and
forth and get a breath of air
notional.
You learn how to swim.
But yeah.
So so what do you got in the
pipe?
What are you working on
something?
New or you know, the most recent
thing that really kind of came
to Market was in two of our
lines.
The finally the miter bitola
came out which is like a
bellicose is type torpedo and I
call them Writers and all four
lines is because kind of Pope's
hat.
I got that from a buddy of mine
that works wouldn't Indian and
then there's all the stuff is
supposed to ship in October and
The Vespers welcome to Sky and
is she all right?
And so in a vest words just now
started shipping, which the best
where is of a toll on its a four
and a half by 44 that we're
calling those that were total of
Vesper and all four of our lines
worst-kept.
Secret is we're doing solamente
23 which Was a small run that we
did in the very beginning, which
was an accidental, run will be
at the show, try to get the best
person for five packs.
Debating that right now because
the price point What's the price
point at about 960 retail?
So it's up there, you know,
starts getting around that will
boost wrote or especially when
you're a brand owner, right?
And you're trying to keep your
not as linear as you'd like to
be.
So you know, there's a couple
components as, you know, and the
price of a scar is the tobacco
or the amount of tobacco the
bow.
Time and all that stuff.
And the other thing, you know,
when you talk about the amount
of time, it's amount of time,
the tobacco's Aged, and then the
amount of time before you roll,
it just a lot of different
factors in time.
But the most important is the
time it takes to roll it.
So and tortured order to do what
they do.
So it's a harder role than it
takes a little bit more time
than its this one little more
finesse.
Yeah, it takes a little bit
more, you know.
It's got one, less blind are in
it.
All my cigars have two binders.
Typical Nicaraguan Cuban ask,
you know, that kind of basic
architecture architecture.
Right.
But you know, in order to make
that work had to you know, when
you do that shape, or that size
that bitola you bring take one
the binders out.
Gotcha.
So and then we did the
firecracker with United that's
sold out and it was, I guess
it's sold on the streets.
That's what I'm hearing.
I always ask me.
I, you know, I didn't have a
list, I ship them all, 300 boxes
to United and that was that.
So that was a great example of
For us was there's a lot of
people that were experiencing
the firecracker for the first
time.
Well, I'll say it's for the
final section of our site for
the first time.
So yeah.
So yeah.
So it's kind of like
double-edged though.
It's good as a like, marketing
as well, right?
Yeah.
There was, there was no profit
margin that.
Yeah, but, you know, at the end
of the day, what it did with the
doors that it's already open for
us, right?
Great with the right people,
mostly all the right people.
So right, we want to be with so.
So what's been the hardest
thing?
That you've done that you like
fuck, I didn't really see that
coming.
There's the Strenuous of so far
of.
No.
So in this I just got asked that
question.
Did you was it on a podcast?
Because if it was I don't know.
I want to I don't know.
I want the answer.
No no.
Did I know everything that's hit
us?
We knew it was going to hit us
one way or another.
Right.
What I will say this I'd say
there is that that firecrackers
a lot more work?
Yeah.
Then you anticipated?
Yep.
Just because I'll have to do
with the kid dollar, right?
Oh how to do that?
That came to Allah.
We Had it, we didn't have it.
We got this and this wasn't what
they showed us on the quality.
And, you know, and then they're
like, Oh I thought you wanted to
make you know three million of
these three.
Yeah, no not three.
Oh yeah.
So you only need a half of bills
would be the bail so we're like
all right so we committed to
buying a male they're like
alright well we'll just so you
have a bell.
We got somebody else that wants
the other half in and worked out
in the quality was there.
So right I think it worked out
again so always there's always
fuck.
Yeah and then I want to make
sure that the Work, right?
Because it was based on a Saint
Francis plan.
We kind of amped it up a little
bit.
And how do you make a cake?
That would smell it.
Taste, good remove the Candela.
When the hell are the killer
it's ometepe seemed like just
put a bunch of other stuff in
there.
So you know what up, what up?
Let s we got one other special
project that were that we would
like to get launched this year.
Yeah that we're talking to some
fun people about yeah.
Okay I can't really talk yet, I
can't guess.
Can all guess guess.
Now I should have said that off
here but no, yeah, so why?
That's a I just don't want to do
a lot of Ellie's.
I don't want to do a lot of that
stuff.
It's just there's a lot of
people that there's a perception
about how big our brand is on
the market right now, and it's
very good and I'll take it,
right?
But the reality is in somebody,
like, you would understand.
And even other retailers, when I
had that conversation, they
understand that the perception
of our brand is a lot bigger.
There really is from this people
of the driving.
Verses on social media.
So a lot of people have to
experience our core line first,
right?
And I don't want to have it, you
know, we're simplistic in the
way.
There's four lines of cigars,
right?
And there's 64 dollars and
that's it.
They're all basically used the
same molds.
Will get a little crafty here
and there, but I want to do some
more projects but I don't want
it to be the bane of our
existence, right?
It's got to be.
I want people to All Saints.
So a great example is back home
where I live.
A lot of people are buying my
cigars.
And they were saying, Mickey pag
cigar one, Mickey Peg cigar or
people know me and right?
Yeah.
Now they're coming in like
wouldn't Indians like, oh,
they're coming in.
They're asking for All Saints,
right?
And I'm like, that's cool.
Yeah, that's what that means.
We're getting some brand
identification.
Right?
You know what was funny, was our
first container came on time,
and I know, I share those with
Mike and Greg are first.
Container came in and February
20 2008, and we are very
excited.
Also st.
Patrick's Day we're going to do
this big press release.
Well, you know, It hit so I kind
of freaked out a little bit and
I said I'm not going to sell
direct to Consumer, right?
So what I did is I loaded up my
car with igloos right delivered,
cigars had about 40 accounts in
the closest account to that
person there.
I gave that credit card to that
retailer to run it.
They're like so, wait a minute.
Oh yeah, yeah, do you do not
deliver?
You're not delivering cigars to
me, right?
You're giving me the credit card
number.
Then your invoicing me
afterwards.
I'm like, yeah, I'm not going to
send you 40 invoice like when
the aliens like a perfect
example, I'm not gonna send you
40, we'll put it on.
They're right.
Yes.
But I trust you you're going to
give me a check.
I don't want to credit card
right?
I live one mile from you right?
Right.
I can find you if I need to
there's a handful of retailers.
Good faith out of that.
Was I chasing good faith?
No, was I happy that it worked?
Yes, my keep doing that.
Yes.
When I put this like the blue
ocean, Terry, I want to put that
in the model from the beginning
but I was just trying not to go
crazy.
Right?
Because we didn't overspend,
during that time we already knew
what was going to cost us to
exist that year and There's a
lot of costs that we didn't take
on because of that, I slept in
friends houses because you
couldn't get in hotels, and they
were so excited.
So, on a Thursday or Friday
night, whether I was in North
Carolina, Florida.
Where a task, you know, a pet,
you know, 500 smoking, a cigar,
and some food and, oh, wow.
I was a lousy little bit of the
entertainment.
So, my buddies could show off
anybody's got a cigar and that
kind of doubt, and and I notice
there's no covid and Florida.
So I start spent a lot of time.
Yeah, we didn't have it here, we
still.
Yeah, North Carolina down.
Yeah.
So for the most part so how many
producing now and how many do
you what's the goal?
We think we just do like 400,000
scars.
Last year's pretty good man.
Yeah I like I like to hit that
million million stick marking
the are probably like 20. 25
would be nice.
Toy 26 with the reality of that
that's very hard.
The big hairy audacious goal.
You know, right?
Is that in place?
Where we're at what we're doing
in the facilities that were
using that capability?
Should be able to happen.
There there's certain Backhoes
that I am using because most of
that comes from the library of
what Rocky has access to, right?
So the 27 million cigars about
six of them came out.
Six million came out of the tap
of couse a factory that's as
Boutique Factory.
And then I obviously have to
Source tobacco here.
And there, there's certain
tobacco's that I'm using in
certain cigars, that are like we
can keep up with the growth of
this cigar, but don't plan on
using that and you're someone's
right?
Right, yeah.
So I'm working on 2024, my plan
for 2024 is one I'm working on
right now.
So that's what's going to be
different different or line.
So, it's different but I'm also
working with some fun to back
us, right?
And then I have this other
opportunity that I was alluding
to earlier that there will be a
lot of tobacco is that I don't
have access to directly.
I mean, I can probably get
right.
You can find them, right?
SDG&E.
And when you're friends with the
CG right unless they know, I'm
really good.
Justin.
Yeah, I get a lot of great ideas
from those guys.
Yeah, we can hell, is it you
fucking walked it back?
Did you see that?
He won't answer the phone?
No, there's no way.
Probably not, there's no
animosity.
There, there's a lot.
There's yeah, yeah.
God damn it.
We all had it almost.
It's okay.
It's alright.
You just go ahead and that's
what we got to do this.
The last call today when I got
Birds go get some Somebody's
quick on the draw.
I got a hit on the street.
We can get them to come and get
you.
Yeah, of course, I do.
They have.
And I Vega drop.
Yeah, they have a vast.
Yeah.
See that's exactly what the
hotel tonight.
Yeah.
All these things in my locker,
next door.
So the other thing that you're
working on is not affiliated
with the fact that you're
working with currently, Yes or
no?
Yes and no yes or no.
Who can I confirm nor deny, huh?
Interesting.
Very interesting.
Is it with one of these names on
Palmer's list not so with not is
an oxidant.
Is it knocks?
Uh I mean you know there's only
know everybody thinks I'm
working with knocks really time
we skip maybe it's good that I
would I would know about it
would hurt.
That's the that's the other
words kept secret.
We're trying something weird.
I mean I had a conversation with
him last week, you know?
Yeah.
You know what's?
But again you guys would be the
first to know about that too.
So yeah he wasn't them.
Yeah definitely you guys would
be the first ones.
We talk to ya if we you know
we're getting their legs under
that conversation.
Absolutely.
Okay or we on time you got an
idea.
We have 30 perfect.
Like we've done this before.
It's so crazy.
So weird.
Well is there anything else you
want to add before we let you
off the hook and and you know
damn we were so close but no I
think the only thing is I was
hopefully we could have a
conversation about me coming in
and when I could come in and you
kind of have that conversation
with well with well, it's
getting late,
we don't want to become a swag
company, right?
We're going to do something.
We got to do.
Our swag is not unique right
now, right?
But when we do get to that
point, we want to have that, you
know, we're spending all our
time and money on Tobacco,
right?
Yeah, my broker's.
Then me right.
Well, my travel gets paid first
before I get paid.
So we got to pay for my travel.
Yeah.
So that's that's where we're at,
so right?
We want to grow into it.
But also, you know, when you're
somebody that is exciting and so
much of a force multiplier in
the industry for a brand making
kind of situation.
When if something comes up With
a unique idea, right?
Like some of the conversations
we've had, that's where you get
excited.
Like, we'll figure out a way to
pay for that.
We could pay for that, right?
It's a way and if it grows and
we like it then maybe we take it
off the market.
But you guys do a little bit,
you do little bit more
grandiose.
Oh thanks.
Right.
So we can afford to do something
like that with you guys.
Yeah, of course the order or the
right customer push hard.
Lenny Lenny Melanie's got plenty
of houses in Portia's, 00.
Give us wonder how the money
will take a house.
What we want those guys to get
on the internet and like post
social media, right?
They didn't do it except one
guy.
I went to college with or two
guys went to college was the
other guys are just from a
business Acumen from the
background.
These are like CEOs CFOs of the
large companies that sold right
and they're all mostly in the VC
area.
Right?
So that you know, Looking at her
books and looking at the
business infrastructure of our
company a banana.
Yeah.
Yeah, you're always looking at
the evidence I was looking at
the EPS.
Yeah.
Well, nobody had what everybody
was looking at it three weeks
ago or two weeks ago.
Oh, that's so many to Millie
want to come and get mushy and
getting shit.
But, you know, I mean so that
that we're getting that we
thought we were getting this.
But we got something else in the
the people would pay especially
for my old, you know, grad
school days to pay a lot of
money to have these.
I'll serve on boards and write
and give them Direction and the
things to think about when
you're building something, you
know, even from something, you
know, from your PLU, no right to
you know your colleagues you
know?
Whatever the whole thing.
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah.
I mean we definitely have to
establish a game plan to bring
you on.
You know, obviously what our
plans were originally didn't
work out so we have to figure it
out for sure if you know.
But with that being said,
anything else to add mr.
Palmer.
I know what?
Appreciate you doing a little
schedule change?
Yeah, thank you guys.
Thanks for having me.
I because this is well, we are
the number one show.
So yeah, we are number one,
number one, show boots and I
mean Phil Phil.
And now he's boots today.
Oh yeah, but it's okay.
The shirt I boots.
Hey, you know, I don't know
nothing that.
What about if you ever supposed
to post Anya?
Yeah.
You know what?
I smoked my first one last year.
The Great Smoke.
Yeah.
He was in the booth with Luffy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well I was being a fan boy that
day so they've said come in and
take see which put your best
foot forward.
If you make it make the cut next
year.
So I was going out taking
pictures with everybody.
So we got sucked into Free
Labor.
Yeah, not this time, pal here.
Now with STG money.
I'm not fucking lifted a single
thing.
You better have a goddamn
Salesforce that's always nice
tablecloth and everything for
him last year.
That's it exactly.
That will make you.
Thank you so much for coming on.
Check, appreciate it.
Thank you.
Check out All Saints cigars.
If you guys, well, is going to
be on after the great smoke but,
you know, we'll be at the Great
Smoke and so we'll make Q.
So make sure you check them out,
right?
Will be on next week.
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Show Notes
On this week's episode of The Cigar Hustlers Podcast, we bring you the latest news in the cigar industry, including the big story about the PCA 2024 expo moving to March. We discuss what this means for cigar enthusiasts and manufacturers alike, and speculate on what new developments we can expect to see at the event.
We also have a special interview with Micky Pegg from All Saints Cigars. Micky shares with us his journey in the cigar industry, how he got started making cigars, and what sets All Saints Cigars apart from other brands.
Tune in to this episode for all this and more, and don't forget to light up your favorite cigar while you listen.
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