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March 28, 2023· 1h 21m

Cigar Hustlers Podcast Episode 274 All Saints Cigars

Cigar Hustlers Podcast Episode 274 All Saints Cigars

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In air.

Hmm, wait on you right now.

The man over there.

All right, and three, two, one,

three, two one bra!

Welcome to the cigar Hustlers.

Podcast.

Episode 274.

Or with your host, Michael the

kings that Von karajan, his

producer, Mike Beebe, Palmer,

and me I'm Phil your cameraman.

If I remember correctly, the

last time that I was someone's

type was, when I was donating

blood in the blood drive.

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People sent you love of God.

So Ann Marie and John.

I've got butter.

I could but my Angry account

there in town.

Oh, oh nice.

And they want to wreck about,

and we walk to the garage and

they said, oh, this is the rack

about.

I said, yes, this is there.

A matter of fact, I like the

touch and they, like, look at

this thing.

It's fucking awesome.

I got, I know, I told you.

It's awesome.

So John's like, how much are

you?

How do I get?

How do I get?

The New York McGee, we can get

it to New York John, we can get,

I just a little shipping issues

and no problem, we got it there.

You're good to go.

You can put all kinds of things

on there.

So, stay tuned after the show.

We're having another special

with Mickey Peg from All Saints

cigars.

We have to do it that way.

Yeah.

Why don't we duel as we would

you let me get my booth Manuel.

It was only last week.

Yeah, I know, it seems like so

long ago.

It was just last week.

How was that one?

I haven't heard anything from

anybody comment on it.

Or what?

No, not really, very quiet.

Very quiet enough.

I feel like a lot of people

might have been on the old

spring break last week.

Maybe it'll catch up.

Yeah.

Well we still are you sure we're

on 274 the show?

Yes.

What are we doing for our

patreon?

I don't know.

What are we doing?

We are doing, give me this the

vi.

Hey, honey.

And hand grenade.

Kuro ho all carajo blessings.

Oh, now to say sorry crows out

Leaf.

I put these the, the shape is

pointy.

That's what it's pointing,

that's it, actually, whatever

for the description for cut it.

I thought I was trying to figure

out which end to cut this, so

these, which was really kind of

funny.

Is, this is always a condom

after.

Yeah.

It's a condom and know it's a

diaphragm, be reasonable.

You got to shove it up there?

Putting up in Natchez?

Yeah.

Oh, so that's why it slides on

our locator.

Yes.

Yeah, it's a bad.

You go nice.

So normally these are gone was

soon as I put them on the site.

Oh, but they weren't gone spring

break.

It could be, I don't give a

shit.

I'm gonna you.

No, I haven't smoked on it

forever.

So I'm excited to kind of smoke

this and we're going to do

special pricing for five packs

for on the patreon for patrons

of the patreon.

Yes, don't get bad, boys.

Do you need to put the foil on

the way?

It who gives?

We normally way with cellophane

on whatever another question,

what's going to?

What's the weight for pointy

fifteen point five grams.

I don't have pointy on my thing.

Exactly, I don't know, all these

specially.

I think a 654 last week we had a

weird shape too.

So there was no actual.

But I'm excited to focus when I

was there.

Was sitting there like, man,

fuck it was just go smoke these,

what was the way 15.5?

Excuse me, fifteen point.

Five grams, what's your

question?

Do you cut the end of it?

The smoke it, not the smoking,

sign the show.

We just had a whole discussion

over here, not the smoking sign.

You cut the rounded end, the cat

know this is, you know I mean

your draw a first should be

pretty rough but you don't need

to cut it.

No got it.

Oh there's a light in.

No no it's not be like with a

fuzzy foot see you're coming in

so aggressive on my guy.

I took the mask off, it made me

very upset, I'll put it back on.

Wait to see what the next one is

for April.

Oh, you already ordered it?

No, I need to do it today.

Did you see it?

So, you know what it is?

I know what we're getting.

I gotta be honest.

It's the highlight of the

fucking show.

I don't know.

I don't know why you get.

So that's what makes me.

So, just a joke that he did, you

set him up for and, you know,

the fact that he doesn't read it

before, I just love all - efface

now.

Yeah.

So you a stipend.

Was of was somebody needed my

blood.

Now that's about somebody's

type, I can't get blood.

You can't give you never

anybody's type that like because

you have AIDS.

No, I was in Europe during the

mad cow disease are and now

you're a mad cow.

No they don't know if you have

it until you have it.

That's what's wrong with it.

So you don't have it mad cow as

of, right?

This second I don't because what

happens when you have it you're

mad.

Start moving a lot.

What happens tomorrow?

Why are you dying?

Had it then he didn't Craig will

be usually die quickly.

Oh, it makes you crazy like

dementia.

Yeah, so I went on the show this

week Jake.

Yeah.

We hijacked the Facebook Lite

EVP of the mirror pool right

here.

Reinard ringer reinard, the

other three squirrels in your

pod.

We hijacked I like I like the

fact that I have a squad that

kind of just rolled, we're all

it in and take it over.

Kevin.

He like you're his biggest

mistake, was he started liking

our time?

Engaging oh, Green light.

Here we go gas on the fire.

We had to go get Jet Jet.

Come on rounded tip.

He's responding.

He's just wanna he just brought

his a good time, you know.

I'm gonna tell you.

That was a good.

It was a fun podcast.

It was, it was different.

Yeah.

You know, very very limited his

with the peoples that the watch

it.

Yeah.

And he's obviously educated.

Y'all need me most of them were.

Yeah, it was cool.

I had a good time, you know.

But I guess it makes a

difference to when you're

totally An honest all the time

because I'm fucking him, right.

I felt like they were gel and

because of that, well, I love

for the first hour because he

started, you know, tell us when

you were born, you know, the oh

he went way, way back.

So I was conceived back of a

Buick station wagon when a

quarterback you down here in the

back of a Corvette, how would

that work on it?

On it on it, on it on it.

Oh yeah, you're dead.

You're dead, father.

I blasted my mother and there, I

was wrong.

You're doing it wrong.

And there, I was I was going to

talk about something else, ma'am

out of fuel.

Damn.

I think this one is to wait,

incoming.

Look at that.

Phil johnny-on-the-spot.

Uh-huh, I'm not using this fuel

on My ASU the pond, by the way.

Please ignore.

Let me go to another camera,

please.

Ignore the man behind the

curtain.

He's not important, he's not,

he's not using it.

I'm using this lovely Espinoza

letter, her husband I'm using.

You can also fix your lipstick

in the orange St.

Du Pont fuel for my SUV.

I swear, I went boating over the

weekend say right now.

If I can send this thing in and

they said well we watched what's

0274?

You're fucked.

Oh.

So you watch us?

Yeah that's what happens

everywhere looking at.

Well that's great cause we like

talk about sponsorship.

I have something I have five

news.

Okay I've news.

Okay cameras on.

You know, I did those videos

your for now.

I did those videos for Adrian's

High School.

Yes.

Or our production.

Coming to the videos.

Radiance High School.

Yeah.

Well you write the HVAC guy.

Got an award last week and he

called The people, he goes, how

did I how did I win?

How did I how did I get this or?

I don't know who they were?

It was from, it was from, from

National HVAC, teacher

organization or something.

Well.

Okay, so he does a see, guys

zzi, they have an HVAC class at

Adrian's school.

They teach conditioning, they

have two of them.

One of the guys wanted to work,

they said, to be honest with

you, it was the videos on your

school's website that puts you

over the top above everybody

else.

And that was you, that was our

videos.

So what did you get a hand job

out of that one?

Nothing out.

Well, I got a lovely plant.

I thought the fucking plan

gotten a me.

Old sandwich, a bottle of booze

Scorpio.

What kind of booze?

Whoa, what kind of with a bottle

of rum?

I don't care what you like.

No, it went to sandwich.

They have a culinary class there

and ah they cook me up a

three-course two eggs, three

course dinner at 3:00, I don't

know what it was nice.

It was some type of meat and to

vegetables and some cornbread.

Well I thought we thought

everything was like split

though.

Where's my third of the Sim?

I did all the way you didn't get

anything and you didn't show up

for the three trips, I had to

take but now we could parlay

into To paying gigs at other

school.

Very nice.

I just want you to know that if

I got the sandwich and you

didn't do any of the work.

Yeah.

And it came with my product

wasn't a sandwich.

I would give you a third of the

size and just saying, what you

came to the house, whatever the

case, maybe I'll put in

tupperware on a broad.

See that.

You know what to have leftovers?

I'll bring it tomorrow.

Yeah, my wife has been coming.

Here, has been hard in the paint

for me as of late.

She was going to call him, but

she's, you know, obviously I'm

doing stuff with John Amery this

week, right?

But I'm going to tell you, let

me just recap that she had like

a list.

I just like jerk and everything

that I've said in the past.

The car will drove over the

cones.

That wasn't entirely me.

I am very sorry for that.

That was totally me.

But, you know, she feels that I

paint her in a bad light.

Like like, oh no.

Yes you do.

I do.

I don't think that I do.

I'm more scared of her than you

just so you should be, she's

nice.

But I will tell you that, you

know, I couldn't pay less.

I'm in a protein shake.

I couldn't tell you the last

time I had to do.

Handle my vitamins.

I mean, she, she stopped doing

worse.

Know she does, all these things

still she cooks my chicken for

my week, my meal prep.

This is recant.

I'm just saying that this

mending.

I had the best fucking wife on

the planet.

Your wife sucks in your wife

sucks in comparison.

It's just sighs.

I'm just saying what it is.

It's just it's just faster

script.

No, is it, you reading this off

your that out, I just want

everybody to know.

You're not be so much of my life

and my wife is amazing, read all

of this, my wife is amazing.

So she almost has like I'm going

to come in with John and Emery

stop in.

Yes.

Oh, you know, we were supposed

to watch come in to watch live

lessons.

Wanted to come in she hurt her

foot or something.

Yeah she's had has the fun.

She gets Maria has the fuck,

she's got any issues, but she's

feeling a little bit better.

Now it's the knee.

I thought last time it was the

foot now it's the knee.

Yeah, I don't know, but you're

making me feel like I'm a

terrible friend.

Now, for not verifying, put

anybody, but I'm pretty sure we

just need for if it's neat.

If it was the foot.

Now, it's Annie.

It's going up and it's gonna be

also, ensures is the Lancashire

was just knee.

Yeah, I thought it's a fight.

I thought you had like a boot

on.

Did you have a boot?

I thought, yeah, she did have a

futon last night.

Maybe she did it.

Yeah, you're right.

It was the foot first and now

it's the knee.

It's gonna be the hip and then I

don't know anybody like me, but

she wanted to come in today.

She be like a friend but you got

to get those new bionic chips.

Phil, no boot has the fake hips,

everybody.

Oh yeah, your film yeah.

Phil has the mad cow disease.

It's a matter of time before he

goes moo and then kills over

right.

Just goes crazy over it.

I feel like you could give

blood.

Now that's a question.

They ask say no you're fine.

Oh okay.

And then I kill someone or get.

Thanks a lot fellas.

Here we go.

Michael Mike production just

kill one person at a time.

Let's let's have you.

Not one of them?

What's your blood type?

You know, I don't even know.

I've never even know your

fucking idiot.

I know.

I know, I'm not the universal

one.

You know what?

You're not that important.

I bet.

Tia knows.

Yeah, Tia was surprised

motherfucker.

He's a B+, right?

You know what else did I do?

I do.

I had a pretty easy week.

It was kind of nice.

Super chill surprise.

My wife always goes.

What's my company doing?

Like oh I don't know.

That's because we invite you to

something sometimes and then you

guys don't show up.

It's true.

Yeah, that's why.

Yeah, what are we going to turn

down?

What are they doing?

Well, are you coming the baptism

thing?

No, because we gotta go to, I

can't say what it is, case.

They're watching.

I'll see you when I mean, oh,

that's right.

Yeah, that thing.

But here you go, there you go.

So getting your lovely gift just

like what?

Lovely, I'm not getting anything

over the children.

Okay, we've already worked it

out with your wife, she's

improved.

It, you give me popcorn.

No, I'm not Zach.

Jonna threatened to send

popcorn.

If he did, that doesn't arrive

in.

Time.

Tell me.

That's what he sent it.

I know he showed me.

Oh, no, he told me.

He said, take this out.

I said, oh, that's nice.

It was for the kids.

They're gonna have a, make a

mess your house.

Look at.

Okay.

What else?

If he doesn't send it in by a

fucking April 8 though, I'ma

tell you right now, I'm going to

we're gonna call him on the

show.

That's what we're gonna do.

We're gonna call on the show.

You're released, he's at the TA

this weekend because for the, he

berated me for my brother's

wedding and I had nothing to do

with that shit.

And then when he Grant runs into

Greg, what does he do?

Oh Greg, I love you so much.

You know, it's okay I wasn't

alone.

I was nothing nothing.

I do have a question.

Something that's been going on

social media.

We got one question.

Okay.

Why is how about that?

Cigar Coop bear and smoking

tobacco?

They're all just doing each

other shows lately.

Last, couple of weeks, it's all

about.

You see, then this week on, how

about calling us that?

That see, that's the other part.

Well, he's not calling me.

I mean, everybody calls you

coops not calling you.

He's he's not, he's not enough

used to acknowledge.

Oh, yes.

What?

He's really resented.

My media ranked number one, you

get.

Yeah guys.

We get To it the other day about

the number one, they did have a

back and forth he's mad cuz

we're number one.

Yeah, yeah basically it's what

he's saying that the he's saying

that it doesn't check out, don't

be mad join them right?

It does it doesn't check out

because the math doesn't work or

something.

Yes.

Anyone know how I got the

information to make us number

one?

It was not my website, I had

nothing to do with it.

Making us number one, right?

Right.

Could if you want, you should

just blast that I read.

Well, that's what it is.

He's you wanted to hang out when

he was a told you, right?

Yeah.

And there's gonna make it work.

I didn't Sunday years and I had

the right thing.

I don't think things.

Hey Wesley.

It must be time for Phil's

facts.

Are we had 16 after the show?

At 1600, got a notice.

He put the mask back on and he

got his views getting ready for.

All right, music for film funds,

fact.

I know what I need to do that.

Yeah.

Okay, I'll get it.

Hey, do you want to do music for

sorry?

Phil, get nervous.

Do you want a new intro and

stuff for for this show?

I mean, we've been the same

music since the day we started.

No.

Okay, just ask.

I like, I like music.

Okay.

Yeah.

Because you see the new intro I

did for the other show.

No, it's nice.

It's good.

Okay, that's why.

I just want to know if you

wanted us to have a new one to

go ahead, Phil Phil's fix.

All right, all right, fellas,

give it.

This is a long one.

Oh great.

You only have till 17 Justine

okay.

Giving a different meaning to

close but no cigar the CIA and

Cuban exile.

Group spent 50 years trying to

kill Fidel Castro.

They tried poison pills, hidden

and Cold Cream jars, they placed

explosive mollusks, painted in

Vivid colors, and one of

Castro's favorite diving spots.

The one that the one that

captures our attention, of

course, was the idea of having a

New York City.

Cop, give Castro exploding

cigars during a visit to United

Nations at sepsis in September

of 1960.

The idea some say, was that,

when the cigar exploded, And

Castro would be shamed, others

reliably report.

The cigar had enough power to

take Fidel's head off, never

happened.

Another idea. 1960 was to

contaminate a box of Fidel's.

Favorite cigars with poison, but

the cigars never reach.

Castro by one count Castor

survived.

More than 600 attempts on his

life.

That's it.

Are you saying?

That's where they got the close

but no cigar still.

Yes.

Where did you get that?

Did someone hand you that?

Or did you look that one up?

I look it up.

I don't think he's handing me.

I know I thought it came from

back in like the 20s when they

had like a county fair or

something, these give cigars

away as prizes and you know, you

throw the ball close.

But no.

Cigar that probably makes the

most sense.

Makes more sense not Fidel

exploding.

Yes, exactly.

Yeah, I did hear the exploding

cigar thing but none of the

multicolored painted Molly.

You know down in the water.

It sounded attempts.

What kind of half-ass fucking

operation.

That's embarrassing right?

You think we didn't get it done?

Six hundred times I feel like

they didn't want to get it done.

Yeah.

It was something they lined it

up so that you know, did you

like they ask the person who the

person is going to handle the

assassination plans?

They probably put crayons in

front of them and if they ate

the crayons and like, yeah, you

have your our guy or the guy.

You, okay, figure, this, you're

Expendable, you got to figure

this one out.

Kill Fidel.

Like what?

For Dale, I gotta kill for Dale.

Who's that?

Who's that?

Damn it.

Dad Feller.

Who's dating?

My aunt.

It's crazy.

How far technology has come.

I don't get it, I don't get it

either.

They don't use exploding cigars

attract kill people anymore.

Yeah well now we could just send

a tiny little rocket through the

window.

Right well he's dead now.

No I'm not talking about.

That was a Fidel.

That was 601.

They got him with the last.

Finally got him.

Finally got him.

No I'm saying like it's me a

bullet to size of this pain.

They can go through windows and

turn left and then up the stairs

and hit anybody in a toilet,

like the guardian.

Oh, ya just whistles!

Yeah, know what I started to do

this week, kill it out.

I'm done now.

Uh, I started kill his brother

to watch.

John Wicks over again.

Oh, well, for has you worried

for number four?

Yes, I started to watch them

with Jax and Brittany.

You are some with it with a kid.

I watched him jack.

Wow, Jax is.

Okay listen, just got it, really

like killing.

Yeah man, what's up?

It is nice that even gratuitous

or like really bloody and I'm

bringing you that I broke it

down.

I'm like look I'm like here's

what's really cool about this

Benelli.

You know, like this one has a

bullet on the side of the

shotgun and he's going to slide

it in while he's fucking working

through this entire room.

Just asking everybody, right?

And I'm like, you see it?

You see it, you see it.

And then like I see how it's

gone.

He was just Boop, and he's like,

okay as look.

So so we watch number one and he

almost walked away.

I lost him for a minute.

Yeah.

When did I lose him?

What it had the end of the

month, where you don't know, I

don't know, I don't know.

Quit during the movie.

He quit and walked away.

Jack's are generally Jacks.

Oh yeah, he quit.

Okay, it was just a bunch of

killing know they're like a

nudey scene or something know

when the dog died, right?

At the beginning, when the puppy

was killed, he said, okay, I

don't want to watch this and he

gets up and walks away.

I'm like, fuck, what did I just

do?

Like, that's the turning point

of the whole movie is about,

that's why I had to bring them

back.

And listen, this guy, this is up

the next 17 move.

I like this guy is about to go.

Ballistic on everybody because

they killed his fucking dog.

All right.

You can't if you walk away now

you're emotionally scarred for

the rest of your life.

Yeah, but you get some back

heat.

There is Redemption for Daisy

was the dog's name by the way.

Oh there is redemption.

What movie does?

He explain the dog.

Is that the first one?

Still number one?

Yeah, so here so I don't know

how this all that seen the other

day on Tick-Tock.

So I don't know how it all ties

in.

But I feel like there's a lot of

things that are intertwined in

all of these movies, that kind

of lead up to the how this is,

Going to end up.

Oh probably, yeah.

Now is it over?

I did.

I don't think so they just did.

Another one didn't.

Yeah, it's a really sport.

So I'd like to go see number

four with at least Brittany and

Jax.

I don't know.

I'm gonna do the other two kids

but that's what he's saying.

Number for supposed to be the

end.

It's number four, the end.

That's what they're saying.

I can only end if they kill him.

Well, the money, he's got to get

the Mustang back, right?

And oh, and he doesn't kill

coming.

So I feel like common should

come back.

He might have asked for a lot of

money.

Oh yeah, you probably didn't go.

So you know, Like you start

picking up on all these little

nuances throughout the show.

Oh yeah.

Oh shit.

Oh, oh, oh, okay.

All right.

So, Yeah.

I mean I'm excited.

I want to get I got to get one

more out and you know, and then

I'd like to try and take them

this week to go.

See number four, I started

watching the night agent on

Friday, the night agent on

Netflix, okay?

It was really good.

And then last night, I was up to

130.

I watched episode 5 6 7 8 and 9

and then finally what like it's

1:30.

I got a I got a little bit and

then get up and finish 10 this

morning.

Hmm.

But at the end of your lips, I'm

like, who's in it?

People have never even seen

before, nobody important.

Now No, nobody pay.

Is it one of those like read the

word movies?

No, no show the key there.

Sutherlands in that looks like

24 but it's not 48.

Is it?

I've heard good things takes two

days.

Twice twice as long twice, as

long as they got more money and

20 episodes.

I heard a thing the other day he

that he is one of the worst

actors that anybody's ever

worked with either Sutherland.

Yep.

He's a prima donna and he likes

everything done his way and he

doesn't show up on time, green

Eminem's, goddamn it.

What about did you watch that

Luther yet on Netflix?

No.

Well, I did with the devil.

Yeah.

Good, right.

It was good.

It's a show.

It's a movie, it's a movie.

But it's a series of movies.

I can't find the other movies,

though.

I don't think they come out yet.

I think they're gonna really

been out before I thought that

has been wanting to out before,

because, I mean, they set that

up to go to the next level.

I don't know.

I've only seen that.

I don't watch Netflix that much

anymore, right?

Unless it's like burka, sure,

you know, some type of comedian

thing because they all come on

that.

He's got a movie coming out.

Yes, Did you see the Chris Rock?

Stand up on Netflix?

I've seen parts of it, I haven't

seen the light.

I saw the part where he slams,

what's his name?

That was the best part.

Yeah, well, yeah, well, that's

the best part, you know, I feel

like what happens?

These guys crush it with the

stand up and then they go over

and over and over again and I'm

just like all right, you're not.

It's just not from you're not

funny anymore.

Yeah you can't beat the dead

horse.

The only guy who I have seen

consistently show out.

That makes me fucking laugh over

and over again is Chappell.

Well, because this Original.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He's not taking, he's a fucking

genius, you know.

But yeah, Chris Rock.

I'm like saw that one coming,

you know?

But the difference about

Chappelle to is like, having

hard to hide, its don't think

he's funny anymore.

No, because it's the same stuff.

Yeah.

It's the same thing over and

over.

Suppose those real though, it's

like what's going on right now,

right?

And it's all real.

Yeah.

Like one of the Kanye stand up

on SNL.

I fucking died.

I thought it was hilarious.

Like cancel me, I don't care.

Good luck, my ratings are fuck.

Going magnificent.

Yeah, somebody's gonna pay me

somewhere.

So yeah, just skip to the end

for the Chris Rock things like

us here, there was a couple

things you're funny but I'm just

not like, I'm still the number

one show, the number one Coop on

two different Services home,

never go anywhere, and we don't

know how they figured out.

We don't care, we don't ya?

We don't, we don't sweat the

details and we don't think tank.

All right, if you look at the

list, it shows us at the top.

But now we know, let's get

Rollin to some news buddy

because we already got a nose

ring.

They're about the TAA, nothing

to report.

I know we have some things.

I like, how Coop did this whole

thing of 39.

The what But to TA people have

to do what they have to do.

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Well, Garmin Sia cigars EG.

If you heard it, I don't even

hurt.

Yeah, he's a big deal.

Oh, he's doing price.

Increase is a PG.

How much more can he?

I mean his cigar zurich's

percent across-the-board his

cigars are expensive as fuck to

begin are they?

Yeah well it's just I didn't do

the story.

Again same thing rising cost of

Labor raw materials baggage in

total the unforeseeable sir.

Yeah congrats 24.

It's not the Silicon Valley Bank

tanking.

That's not cigar 2024.

Yeah, the 2024, they're moving

it to March 22nd through 25th

but still in Vegas.

Yes, what happened to the other

spot.

Okay, here it still go to go to

number three real quick, listen

care.

Some inside baseball, shit that

you ain't got a fucking hear,

anybody else?

Because no one else is going to

say it, but they'll say it now,

cuz I'm gonna say the number one

show, that's why after Las

Vegas.

The next PCA it's going to be a

New Orleans, so that's 20 25.

Yeah, they haven't announced it

yet.

We're number one, your fucking

welcome.

Number one, I bet camerton.

Where did you get the

information?

I'm here?

I don't give up my fucking

sources.

Well, the head because we're

number one.

Yeah, we went back to.

Well, I'll tell you what.

If it happens you fucking know.

You heard it fucking know and I

told everybody before anybody

else knew, if it doesn't happen,

I'm a complete schmuck.

So there you go.

Happen right here, and that's

two years right away.

Orleans.

I don't know, just wait and see

premium cigar Association or at

least has announced at the 2024

PCA convention trade, show will

take place March 22nd through

25th at the Las Vegas Convention

Center, while the dates and

exhibition Centre is subject to

significant changes to Saturday,

through Tuesday, format of the

trade show Remains the Same.

It's a smart move.

You're moving in, on peace TP,

who really doesn't give a fuck

about us anyways, and Nobody

wants to be in Vegas in fucking

July.

Nobody so fucking hot.

It's hot.

It's the summer like as a

retailer.

You want to be in your store.

It doesn't work gonna miss the

summer league though.

What will be okay.

So I'm going to be all right,

you'll be fine.

Yeah, this marks a significant

change into PC, a convention

trade show, which historically

has been hosted during the

summer.

For most of the last decade the

event has been held in July last

year's trade show.

The PCA told the members, it was

considering two options of 2024,

New Orleans in April or Las

Vegas in July.

The other chose a different

path.

So they just went with July and

are the wind with April and

March and I was gonna say, they

decided to do March in Vegas.

When they're going to do now

Orleans with the move to March

the board really feels.

It is optimal time for the

industry as retailers.

We able to place orders before

the busy season hits and get the

new and exclusive products on

the shelves, when the demand is

the highest.

Now, if they come out, if they

do the show in April, you still

not getting stuff to the fall.

Look, man.

And they can say what they want.

But don't listen apparently.

Yes, you need like a ratio of

90% of the fucking people say,

can you move it out of the

summer?

And then they'll do something

different, which is great.

Now, look, I'm not totally

shitting on the PCA, they do a

lot of good things, they fight

for our rights and yada, yada

yada and all that's important.

Well that one guy on your show,

he really won guys, very very

Patty very passionate if he's

watching a tip look at the

camera when you know I like that

I like that.

You like that he saw his

forehead, he likes his anger, I

could I could feel it.

I mean I've so much to a point

where like I'm fucking thing.

I need to be on the PC a thing.

When that thing goes down, I

guess I should show up.

You send an email and go to the

thing right?

Yeah.

I was kind of, I was kind of

convinced he'll be there.

He brought you in.

What was his name?

I know it was a cool name Tom No

Fredo.

No brick.

No.

And there was actually really,

oh no Jim, I'll go back if l.

No no it can't he's not feeling

Richard mace mace.

I don't know.

I'm so confused with the names

and who is the lady that

breathes heavy?

I don't know.

Yeah, we don't know her name.

She just very she she'd read

really heavy.

He's making noise, I got to her.

She didn't say a word when I go

back home, right before the wind

would blow.

I wish we didn't really there's

only on the show.

That's good.

There's a good chance.

A Greg Zimmerman president of

PCA executive committee.

Plus we anticipate, the many

retailers who are not able to

attend the summer when business

is at its peak, will able to

attend the industry's largest

event.

This will Mark the first time

the trade show has been at the

Las Vegas Convention.

Since 2018 tradeshow best

remembered for the small fire

that broke out in the AJ.

Fernandez, the hard, the hard

part about it.

I've ever been.

I have anybody to give it.

Maybe that was pretty funny.

I don't think it was, you know,

the hard part is it always smell

like fire, you want to release?

You want to have the PCA when

winter is gone because the

entire north of the new Ooh,

world is not smoking.

It's fucking Frozen.

So you have to do it.

You can't bring it to January or

February.

So it doesn't make sense.

Well, February's, tpe.

Can't do it.

Then you could go after TP and

hit it.

I don't think they do it the

exact same time.

Well, they could be another city

looked EPA over.

It's a number doesn't TB.

Doesn't give a fuck about

cigars?

No, no.

They don't know where this big

in that in that whole Cog, just

kind of shifts of it.

So if it changes in March, then

you could say that everybody's

going to not going to I think

so.

Yeah, I think so.

Yeah, that's what they're

playing.

That's why they moved it up.

Yeah, they it's TV push.

There's bags.

And then I push back a little

bit more and I'm like huh.

You want to fight?

Okay.

Fight.

And I think that we need some

type of dance-off between the

head of TP.

And if you want to meet him to

have a man that would've been

amazing to walk around going

challenge.

I challenge clapping my hands

challenge challenge.

And then we'd have DJ Chet.

Just we can, we can we can we

can we, can we Busting it out.

Yeah.

I mean I would ask for a rap

battle between the to you but I

think that wasn't a god.

Well-known of been great.

So some type of dance off in the

oh great.

Right?

So determine who is the king of

all media cigar media, you know,

I mean, he can be the king.

I do want to be, we're just not

really be at my side thorn in

his side, right tan pants at the

white show, who does that.

Number two, is number two,

number two, number ones.

Number two, number twos are the

thorn in the side is that no,

number two is where.

Ten pants of the way.

Oh yeah.

We would not, we would wear

white white.

Why you have backup white.

In case our white for many

years, ain't your organization

and attendees have looked to

move the trade showed earlier

time of year to give retailers

more time to take advantage of

the traditional discounts

offered around the trade show to

make the trade show, more

attractive to attendees who

don't want to go to Las Vegas

during the summer.

But normally the trade show

discount deals and shit.

I mean you can get those without

knowing that happens a lot.

Yeah.

And a lot of them can get duped

into buying some stupid shit if

the discounts really good.

That's when you know, you're

about to get fucked.

This is what it is.

You're gonna be sitting on all

that stuff.

No one wants it.

There are also two competing

trade shows that take place in

q1, the TAA, which is going on

right now.

Haha, the top, the top and the

TB, then the to zoo.

And the freshly Zimmerman

mentioned that the tobacconist

Association of America, a

smaller retail organization will

be moving, its annual event,

which typically takes place in

late March them, and did not

mention the new ta, they also

got the TA to push those back.

Yeah, it's nice.

Everybody's everybody's playing

a lot.

It still doesn't make sense.

If you're going to teach TAA to

go, to pce PCA.

Oh, you don't think you need.

What about the PTR there?

Involving those are not PTA.

No, no no no FBI.

The FBI, the CIA.

The what about the FDA know?

They don't like it.

They don't like people, they had

a booth.

Well, they did questions.

Comments.

Nobody went there.

Why is there were throwing shit?

But there's another cigar

attitude.

No reason.

What's no scientific evidence.

So, do you think?

I think, okay, why this is 2023

now.

So the next year the TPP no

cigar people teepees cheaper to

go to, right?

I'm not go to but due to do you

know, I'ma tell you right now,

here's here's the way I stand.

If I'm going out to Vegas in

March and not July, I'm not

going out to Vegas in January or

February 4th, right?

Oh, I understand you.

Yeah, so okay.

But I'm looking At it from a

retailer standpoint.

All right.

That's why me retailer.

Not media coverage because God

knows we don't really cover

this, the to love to find out.

If they're going to to the

cigars, it came out and I have a

place to sit.

Well, we're not going TP.

It's true.

We won't go next.

Yeah, yeah.

So, what was your question?

That was it.

I think I remember.

Yeah, I was thinking there was

another year but before it

happened, but it's not.

It's next year because I think

it was with there be some

purring off, but they've already

had its own.

Oh, it's going to pull them and

they run.

Yeah, they just gonna just right

just go right out.

Nope, not going.

And we're done and TBE know if

everybody called TP and said,

hey we don't want to get our

booze and we're not going to go.

They'd be like okay well this

one of the blue carpet.

What happens to the people that

have already bought because some

people like the MTP had bought

for the next EP.

You know they're fucked, right?

No refunds, no, no, sorry sorry,

no co-star, you lose your

deposit but the real question.

The real question?

Yes.

Do the big four?

Go back to PCA has Drew Estate,

go back to PCA, I'll try because

now they go to TP e, dot dot

dot.

I think they should come back, I

think they should do baby come

back.

She don't do you can see how the

music we in trouble.

And this is where I got ended on

that.

Wasn't that wasn't a song.

That was that song?

I'm just talking It's too close

to three, you get three and

you're gone.

You're off the reservation,

change the name of the show

again and make it the background

and yellow.

Yeah.

Nowhere else to go houses

podcasts are not warped

podcasting are hustling

podcasts, and number 16, number

16, garnish, of Stella.

The number one podcast, cigar so

start with, uh, cigar.

So we get on that rating for The

Cigar show.

So a cigar Muffler because your

muscly Garma slur soccer

monsters podcast.

Right, I'll start working out

again, shit.

Yes, I got a Florida story.

Yeah, other than that, it was

all ta and I'm stuff in the news

of the 39th, a releases.

How many of you think people are

gonna be excited about?

And that's why didn't cover him.

We can't get them and I'm

reading won't see him.

I think maybe to which on, so

liked the Su named five and I'm

like, okay, mmm, like the

Espinosa Murcielago that came

out 48.

Yeah, the one.

Did you smoke that?

No, I haven't yet.

It!

Is it a different?

How did you not fucking smoke it

and the drawer for you to get

when I die?

Oh, perfect.

I'm gonna look at Eric and say

where the fuck is my ta a

Espinosa?

Because that way you'll think of

me every time you smoke one for

the week, I'll be very upset

about.

I'll cry low, you'll cry.

Little each time you like.

But is it a different Murcielago

or did you just put the gold

baton?

Are we getting inside baseball

on things now it really talk

about patreon?

Yes.

Yes.

I want to know how she's if it

would say.

Is it a special vitolo?

No, it's the same at all.

Yes, it's the Box.

Press with the band.

Probably changes the flavor.

Hey, what's going on?

Their cigars on the app.

Smoked one yesterday.

He had one motherfucker gets

everything he do.

You know what I mean?

Golly are you gonna tell me

whatever?

He's a sweetheart of a guy.

He is Hey, it's hard to start.

Here we go.

Floor.

Start loredana.

Florida is home to over 90 types

of mosquitoes.

Oh yeah.

But we have a new one.

Oh well there's 91 came in.

Okay, let's get the species of

mosquito.

Normally found in Central and

South America is now growing

population in Florida.

Species is known by scientific

name of kulaks lactate or Lot 8

or 88 or lactic Gil goes for the

milk.

Yes, we can milk the first

discovered in 2018 in southern

Miami-Dade County, but has since

been found in Collier and Lee

counties and And may have spread

elsewhere in the state.

According to the scientists, at

the University of Florida, can

we milk the mosquitoes?

I milked mosquitoes, I see a

whole Market coming in the

nipple.

You can note though.

I am nipples.

Greg, can you milk me scientists

say they've been enough research

about species to determine its

potential disease risk in

Florida?

Is home to about 90 mosquito

species, including as many as 17

non-native species, some of them

are disease.

Spreaders, pretty an illness,

like West Nile, Virus Eastern.

Equine, encephalitis, This

Dengue fever and all right, help

me out here.

Chicken ooga Wooga and others

uh, I see you in gu Nya that one

time said, no good.

I hate to have chicken number

one, go-to camera through real

quick.

It's gonna be a new Campbell

Soup.

Listen, chunky chicken nugget.

I just want you guys to know

Florida filled with chaos and

disease, death, so many

mosquitoes, it's so bad here,

please don't come, don't come We

are the redheaded stepchild of

the United States, that's for

sure.

You don't want to be around us.

It's not worth it.

I wear these too dangerous.

All right back.

All right.

Hey, let's finish this story.

Snake.

Scientists say, the curie's

python is part of the insect

group that transmits West, Nile,

Virus Halls, St.

Louis succesful itís.

This is gone.

Streamline some politis, no st.

Louis st.

Louis Encephalitis.

The st.

Louis version.

But it's not known whether to

come with us, like, Pacific Rim.

Style, as you bring.

These are probably I know I'm,

my wife might have him there

contribute to the spreading

those diseases in Florida.

They also say the detection of

non-native species of mosquitoes

is increasing with six of the 17

in Florida.

Being detected in the last five

years, they also say climate

change.

May be improving the chances of

more tropical mosquitoes global

warming that machine in Florida.

Also April first starts

alligator mating season.

Oh they start on April?

Yeah, they know when the data

they know the date, that's when

they start getting the same

result.

That's exciting.

Could I see your question?

Is there a god dinosaurs here?

Heart.

It's chaos dinosaurs by one of

my neighborhood.

Yeah, I know.

You told me, yeah.

Oh, they kill the dancer and

Amanda.

I've nominated him.

His alligator Wrangler for the

neighborhood.

We have, it's Philosoraptor.

Yeah, it's gaining popularity on

the face of the alligator

Wrangler.

Yeah, yeah.

I'll get a ring.

He's in charge of all

alligators.

Now becoming, you know, the

Tyrannosaurus Rex.

It's here in Florida.

It's what, you know.

It runs around.

He does have little hands Terry

them but they use on his belly.

Yeah, the alligator Wrangler.

No, no, the alligator.

Oh the last the transports Rexel

you did.

He bring the Lactaid mosquitoes

zone of lactate ever like

torque?

Yeah like tour like Tori and I

still liked or the Lactaid

likely the milk.

Yeah that's why.

That's why I said it like door

is the one that takes it.

That's why I say we can milk it.

No but he can milk you.

He's like 20.

You think there's a guy that

just follow these mosquitoes?

We have a Red.

Right?

I mean, they catch him.

It's got the one is that the one

about, you know, like the

Monopoly guy?

He's got the fuck man.

What is this is?

This is a GU likes lactate or

lactic door.

My wife is pregnant.

You'd like dating.

I thought it would colored liked

it or in the history books

forever.

Yes!

I am famous.

You like select it orbits Quito.

May we will call it like the

door.

We have a shot with the week,

Michael.

Oh, why would time we have 41?

We're perfect.

Do you have a shower?

I have a listener of the week.

Oh, I don't have a shop of the

week.

Listen, our week is mr.

Adam, a curry, do the birthday

boy, the birthday boy.

Did you see his wife's lovely?

Post them and it's her best

friend and her lover.

Oh really?

Yes, I said, I know I said happy

birthday but he's just my

friend.

I put it up on Facebook, just my

friend.

We don't we're not having sex.

I'd like to bring that public

right now.

I'm not having so, are you sure?

I'm positive.

I'm positive.

I don't know about that.

I got questions.

Nope.

I'm pretty sure he's a handsome

man.

He is but that beard would be

rough.

You think so?

Yeah, a little rough.

No, not not, not not on my skin

is very delicate like a gentle.

Yeah.

Maybe caressed.

Yeah.

That's good to know.

You should know Michael.

Come on.

I know act like you don't know,

but I have a little bit beard.

Mmm.

Yeah, but it's not big like he's

very manly.

Yeah.

That big heavy equipment.

I have equipment very masculine

men.

Still not having sex with him.

This is why we're number one

says yeah.

I never heard Coupe.

Say he had sex with me, the hard

statements.

But a shop here.

Yeah, he shot.

Michael.

No, I'll just pop out cigars in

the cigars in the envelope

because he gets all the good

stuff.

I have one what all that gunk?

Blue Havana in Chicago.

Oh, no way.

We haven't talked about them in

years.

Oh, there was the man that came

to see you.

We could talk about him for a

minute now, who's that?

He came from Milwaukee and I

missed them.

Shu LZ was his last family.

Fortune was Paul Paul.

Solt Paul scholes, Souls Souls.

Souls is a very, he's very

excited.

He read about you in a magazine.

I'm not sure exactly what

Magazine asked quarterly.

Hmm.

I feel he doesn't get that uh

2023 Man of the Year, my stepmom

cabbage.

Well, but this is the guy the

post on years ago.

Oh not about you specifically

about your cigar.

Oh and he just got back from

Poland when he saw the Articles.

He's very excited.

Well, I'm sorry.

I missed you Paul your brother

was very entertaining but

whoever time yes.

Oh yeah, that's good.

Yeah, we don't let him out much.

So no.

We never praised him.

So stop saying he's a bitch.

Stop saying you like it, cigar

better mmh.

Which access to the website by

the way that shit went sideways?

Doesn't everybody likes Justin

website?

He got so angry.

What does?

No, I gave them back end and

then things got jar.

Build up.

Do you think it wasn't me?

It wasn't me.

I feel like it was you much, but

it's okay.

I'm not, I'm not mad because I'm

Meg cigars not getting enough

praise, he probably didn't, I'm

not mad.

Mitch only the combined Jose

caban.

Oh there's a Bradley feeling

good in me, but I'm gonna need

to see a boozer.

Habana purchase it from you

though it's all.

I'm Shane.

Oh, no.

No, that's it.

Okay.

Remember after the show today

we're going to make you pay gone

from All Saints cigars.

It's a nice little 30-minute

bumper, its it was a nice little

earner of you going in early cuz

we have that then.

Yeah.

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Do it now?

All right.

Let's go and we say who fill is

on the other show, too?

Yeah, we talked about what else

we gotta go back.

You want to do the intros,

welcome cigars or podcast

special edition today we're

sitting with Mickey beg from All

Saints cigars yes starts a All

Saints and Center sorry but I

would have been wrong.

Yeah I don't want I don't need

that phone call.

Hey looks like the fleur-de-lis

oh yeah.

It's a st.

James cross nice.

So so you're at tpe, right?

Yeah.

I saw you every time so I did

like a and you kept walking and

then I was like I'll just catch

you next time, then you walk by

again.

I was like, hey and then you

just kind of kept going with

that fucking whatever I was

talking to you guys.

I didn't talk to, you know, I'm

stocking stockings, hang on the

Espinosa but so very easy for

you.

Just for you just playing or

just kind of roaming or what?

No, no, we had a, we were in The

Pavilion.

So we've got you I think our

third year in the Pavilion so we

were just sitting in Espinoza

the most part.

Yeah.

Just Espinoza Room 101.

Yeah, it's weird.

Harass my booth and then walk.

That's probably why we always

saw him, right?

Yeah.

Been harassed Jack like he

didn't get enough at the end of

the trip.

And yeah.

Well Richie, yeah, you know, it

was really cool with Richie is,

he's very easygoing.

When will you see him?

If he knew the oh no, I'm

thinking.

Alfredo never mind.

When you see him at the shows

and stuff, he's always He-he's

very hey, what do you need?

Can I get you anything,

whatever, you know.

But when he when he gets into

business he's like, hey get the

fuck out of here.

I need the chairs, I need the

chair, I can take the pain out.

It's it's time to do something.

So what were your thoughts on

TV?

Let me ask you that.

Yeah.

So we had to push him like

little closer to him.

Yeah.

We such a deep voice.

It really, it doesn't carry as

well.

Ha well, no, I mean we with when

you talk about tonnage and

amount of dollars that we did,

we're very happy with it.

Yeah.

Good amount of or Is that I took

not so happy with, but where I

was really excited as a young

company as you guys know, is

that the people that were

putting in deep second and third

orders.

Yeah.

And some of those territories I

haven't really been to yet or

are done events with these

people yet.

So that's a force multiplier

that you got to do to keep the

stuff.

Going to get that second and

third turn.

We were very happy with.

So right, you can look at it, a

bunch of different ways.

Yeah.

So but would have liked to have

gotten more Orders.

I could tell you, like, people

from the East Coast where I'm

pretty much pretty dominant.

Yeah, there, there was a lot of

people there that weren't there

or I did follow up orders with

okay, so I was happy with our

numbers before.

I did those follow-up numbers

that we don't think we put into

tpe because we were happy with

those numbers, right?

So we'll just put those in

another kind of column for

organic March if that means

anything.

Yeah.

So you don't have a sales force

or anything or do you or know I

have Brokers.

So.

Okay, so you, I mean, that is

kind of a sales force.

It is a sales force, but just we

have a solution for Arizona

right now.

Yeah, working on something for

SoCal because that's a little

peculiar, you know,

California's, California and

then, you know what's?

My guys are.

So I got the flyover states

with, with the time of Klein was

Garrett.

Now, Andrew and Raul doing those

other states.

The other flyover states I have

My king, who's doing great for

it, Tom classes and great for

each time and King who's in the

Mid-Atlantic?

Who's your favorite broker?

Who's your favorite broker?

You gotta have all your

lightweight listen to us.

Yeah, this is not one podcast.

No, no, we're very low.

Yes, cool.

Yeah, my Patron.

Or my who your favorite is if

you thought for one second this

is going to be an easy.

Fucking podcast was with With

okay, between Tommy climb, it

really goes back and forth, so

whoever has the best numbers for

that month.

Yeah, those are pretty

consistent on a yearly because

you that one's your favorite.

Yeah, so you know when you're

paying your broker more than

you're paying yourself through

your little have those guys got

paid more than I did, I'm sure.

So yeah.

Welcome to running your own

business.

Right?

So Duty for so do you have

representation in Florida to or

no, I don't.

So I don't pick Alfredo because,

you know, I prayed o Cruise off

the firewall, wow.

The only guys I'd want to use.

I A capacity.

As you know I am I going to try

to talk to him in a couple days

down in West Palm.

Yeah I'm going a little bit of

schmoozing.

Yeah it's a little bittersweet

because right now I kind of

handle what I it's a weird kind

of map because you know it's the

old days.

Like Arizona's talk about

Arizona earlier.

Yeah I got a solution.

I didn't go there because I

didn't have a solution there,

right?

Okay.

I didn't want to go have to sell

it twice, right?

Hard enough to sell the first

time.

Let alone just like a second

time.

After yeah, it's like what we're

strategize about me.

Possibly Going in here.

It was like what's our plan?

And I love that.

So it's like when I go in with

somebody like a band, all these

guys, we lay out the 12 to

18-month plant.

You know what start saying, how

we going to coordinate these

things together and if

somebody's gonna bring all my

product in or good majority

where I have a great

representation, that 24 skews

has of a until is great.

A really good representation.

Yeah, that's huge.

We need to have a plan.

Like, what's the deal?

One of my coming in, right?

Can I, when are you coming back

again?

What am I gonna do?

Yes, it's normally what I do

when I have a broker territory.

Go in.

We make that sale and they're

going to support the brand, how

it's my opportunity now it's my

job to support them, right?

So first thing is a broker will

do like a soft pop or something

like that and then I'll come in

with a with an event follow that

up and then other things that

we're doing with social media

and those pieces like that will

do.

So if I don't, it's like the old

days when I was running CIO,

right?

If I fire somebody guess, whose

territory this is your judge.

Congratulations.

So New England is mine, okay?

Okay, Southeast Mid-Atlantic.

If you want to say it is.

Mine in Florida, is mine.

Okay?

So what I'm doing with Florida

is I this is not the route I

take as you know I was born and

raised in Daytona Beach to my

family.

My mom and stuff live there,

right?

But it's basically if he came

out of Tampa go across I-40 to

Daytona Beach, take 95 down to

West Palmer, Boynton Beach,

right?

And then go across Alligator

Alley over the Naples because

all my stuff is fulfilled out of

Naples right?

It's it all yourselves fulfilled

on tables.

Yeah.

Ah, Polly only does my phone?

They do my filming.

I like to call.

I'm in charge of the

distribution, right?

Right.

So it's called Booty.

Had That Old Situation where

they kind of did a little bit of

both, right?

So I didn't lie, deleting the

eight, you know, there's

distribution that's fulfilling.

So they didn't fulfill my, we

got to film a contract with

them, right?

Very similar with Nick, that did

with Alec gosh, Bradley or Alan

room, so, or Ralph, like, Tara

more or so, right?

So, it looks like I was going to

have to pay attention to that

little route from Tampa down to

Naples now on the other side.

Yeah, side.

So it's a little bit about what

I like to be in Jacksonville.

Absolutely.

Well I like to be in some of

these other kind of Suburbia

shtuff that kind of fall off

that route.

Absolutely.

But I got enough to write gonna

keep you busy because I want to

guarantee that I'm going to be

in those territories right now

which is Never Enough you never

enough but right no yeah that's

true.

Three turns a year.

Like that was part of my with a

band or two guys are those?

That they're going to see me at

least three times a year, right?

And we're going to do something.

We're going to do an event or

whatever we want to do and try

to Do something unique and

special and we're growing into

the uniqueness right right now.

You know.

So you're heading down the Great

Smoke.

Yeah.

Okay, so I'm going to go down

either late Thursday night or

first thing Friday morning.

So that's Friday mornings gonna

be a little bit easier or I

mean, Yeah.

Friday morning.

Right?

Well you guys are going on sack.

We're going Saturday morning.

Yeah it's there and back.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

But it's you know after after

our night with movie and Justin,

good luck.

Well we did last year.

Yeah.

Yeah we did it.

We do you know the boofie of new

is not the same boofie of old

you know I mean where he would

fucking get blackout drunk and

disappear or whatever and then

you'd have to go manage them or

whatever.

Yeah.

We're gonna look at a car or

something.

Yeah, you know like oh here's a

guy locally that he likes who

brings a car here now.

Okay.

Yeah.

Uncle Johnny.

Yeah he did that somewhere in

the midwest it was pretty funny

sales call him and all of a

sudden I'm getting ready to make

the sale and movie shows up with

some car.

No shit.

Another car fanatic one of

those.

It was Arkansas somewhere in

Arkansas, Fayetteville one of

the first podcast we did with

him Oklahoma's he disappeared in

New Orleans and he lost his

wallet and some other shit and I

was like, what the fuck

happened?

Then he actually broke the whole

thing down.

So, you know, I think that, that

guy's kind of in the past, he's

not, He's a father now, and as a

little.

Yeah, he's grown up a little bit

on up stairs.

Going up a little bit, you know,

get the helicopter.

You gotta and now he's got the

helicopter.

He's got the, he's got that STG

money.

Right some so, you did see a.

Oh yep.

That must have been fun.

Yeah, it was, it was great.

You know, before that I started

toward Sean Tobacco Washington

DC, and that was a great

experience at all.

It still looks the same as it

did when I worked there.

I started there in 1989.

There were really weren't that

many Tobacco shop.

How old are you 1989?

Yeah, well, I was I graduated

college and well, I was class of

91, who's all those little.

There's probably about same a

cooler if I'm 54.

Oh, I'm older than I'm 50.

You are the older ones?

Sometimes I say I'm 52 but it's

not like I'm hiding my age.

I, you know that covid York?

Am I watching?

Here is my football number in

college so I'm like, oh yeah,

fine, I'm 55 Let me finish over

the next three years.

So you did that when you were

young.

Yeah.

So yeah.

I was chasing dreams of working

on Capitol Hill and then, you

know, just real quick.

You know, I love telling the

origin store more than skip does

is that I had a chance to go to

dab it off.

And that we were going from a

broker to a drug sales force

that are going through some

changes and I was the new guy

and I didn't say no.

And I traveled.

Yeah, I can travel to what I you

know wasn't political Arena and

I I did have Florida.

That's how I met Dave, right?

And then I started doing all the

important Merchant trips and

then this guy, Raymond sure

who's the global brand

ambassador in the last close

friend of Zeno before he passed

away.

So, I had to do the Dominican

trip.

So, that's how I got a little

bit of national exposure.

I got you.

Okay, and then, you know, then I

had a short stint with flipper

goryeo and then Tim came in from

C a0 and brought me in as

national sales manager and then

I became vice president sales

and then they sold your later.

I was gone you're after that.

Everybody else was gone, feel

the girls here.

The girl in the group

filmography.

Yeah.

And then I went to I was already

doing the weekend warrior

program University of

Pennsylvania because John I was

paying for that Tim's dad.

And I finished that took about

two years finished, that I've

got all my registrations all

that stuff and sold, mutual

funds for Lincoln Financial and

finally, I'm like, am I going to

work all these hours?

I'm gonna do something.

I love so around 2017, got into

the point of me and Frank.

Leo my partner, put in the money

together.

Do you know the name up?

Too easy.

It was a secret investor, hear

about his Mark or way the guy

actually, let's just act like he

didn't give up, and this is why

the origin story gets really

old.

And that the fact that I've

concise it down this TV, David

up to e.

So who are those who are those

guys?

So, frankly, you get a lot of,

you know, Freddy that's Rocky,

Mountain, cigar fest with me,

he's gonna do The Great Smoke.

This is the first time we

actually have a booth at the

Great Smoke.

I went for the last two years, I

was one of the original Yeah,

well, when I was at CIO is one

of the original.

Okay.

Look guys.

How long has All Saints?

Been in smoking and smoking?

I want to say a year and a half.

Okay, so still fairly new.

So I wanted to the warehouse

first before the new warehouse

and then shortly after we got

into the stores.

So, okay, so that's the only in

the warehouses that just online.

So, what it's going to do.

Okay.

So yeah, so you can virtually

get anything any of our skews

from them because of that.

At and then not all skews are

represented in the stores,

right?

Obviously the way they he runs

is customer service so that's

been a big Force multiplier for

us in who's actually the first

show?

I was on.

Oh he shh his show is my ass

radio came and it was still in

the I harm.

Excuse me.

It was still in the old Studio.

Yeah, we were, I was leaving, I

did that once.

Yeah, I did it twice.

Fuck you.

He's 55.

So what time did you said you're

a big deal.

Vented iHeartRadio right before

that.

It was I stomach, you know,

somebody terrible idea.

Go further north, you know,

somebody commented on the

podcast about like one of the

listeners.

Yeah, they made a comment that

cigar Hustlers.

Had a foot fetish thing going on

and I'm like, well, that was

bomber, that was not however

that somebody reached out to me,

please remove your shoes.

If you feel my foot go over,

just a cigar, just relax, this

is gonna be.

Okay, we have a black leather

couch in the front row Um, we we

need to just sit there

afterwards as well.

Just heard some photos.

Where's the Press poll?

That's for a couple of pics.

So well now we know who is

private investors.

Are there goes my whole so who

we don't really care?

Is there another one?

I mean well there's two you have

another one who I was.

Don't know those bastards were

Partners.

What was it?

You're listed as having an

anonymous partner.

I think so yeah.

Did you feel that it's on there.

Michael has the wording flip

that paper, know your people who

said it out of it.

We have never offered with an

anonymous partner, right?

That's online somewhere.

That's yes.

Today is on the interweb.

So it's got to be true.

Love each other, why I often

tell my children like, when we

go to, do something cultural and

you see these big benefactors

and says, Anonymous is saying,

yeah, that's that's not a great

thing.

I'm glad I don't want to brag.

I don't like to brag the anybody

else, but the anonymous guy he's

me.

Yeah, it's me.

Do you have any other names?

We can guess, is he?

So, how did you meet those guys

about in the financial world?

No, no.

So Martin and I go way back to

college.

Okay, came really close friends

like a brother to me.

Yeah.

Because when I went off to

college, I, you know, I went to

Lopez twice because I got kicked

out once so I can have a college

once.

So then went off to college and

then we became really close

with.

Matter of fact, he's the

Godfather of my oldest daughter

and the only Godparent in our

family.

That's not blood.

So, right?

And he's that whole thing is

hard, bro.

Yeah, it's a lot.

Like, you know, you pick one.

I picked.

And then, you know, one time I

picked my brother and he goes

I'm not ready yet because I'm

going back to church and well, I

got Godfather, let's just do it.

Yeah, and we're pretty tight in

the Catholic Church.

You didn't have to have all that

stuff done to do it and right.

So yeah and we and that's how I

mean, it's a pain in the ass and

that's how I met Frank through

him.

And matter of fact, when I left,

she a oh we were trying to put

something together, then I was

just be honest with you.

I've talked about it before the

black dog was on my lap so bad.

Like I didn't have a Dubai Dia.

I didn't have any motivation.

A black dog?

Yeah.

Churchill used to call the black

dog.

The bad days.

Were the Black Dog, gotcha.

You know, back, you know, it's

and I'm young.

I'm, and I'm very stupid.

I've been, I've been the cigar

industry for too long, and I,

it's an old Churchill saying

that I kind of went to church.

It was big during World War Two.

So, I've heard of him, I thought

it was just a cigar.

No, no, no.

This is the carts.

I think it's real good or what?

Sizes, six, seven, eight.

We never know how big this

great.

Yeah.

Right.

So And I'm glad we didn't do it

then because we would have had a

lot more Hands-On, our pocket.

So you know me and Frank were

the most visible.

I'm honest, I'm obviously the

most visible right of 3 Martin,

you don't really hear about too

much.

He does a lot of stuff behind

the scenes and you know we do

have investors and the whole

thing that we got investors now

they own about maybe six point

eight percent of the company is

the cap of about eight.

We didn't want another boss,

right?

Yeah.

And so, you know, Frank and I

are always haven't In

conversations, Martin's not in

any of the lanes and no

disrespect to him.

He just, you know, he says, not

as things.

It's not, it doesn't put his

body up and we put our money up

and, you know, it's not as thick

as well.

We will hopefully get some

marketing stuff out of him.

He's starting to do that.

So, you know, so from there, the

whole Theory with getting the

investors were listen, it was

the old Tom Sawyer, he pay me

ten bucks, I'll let you pay my

fence right.

Well, bunch of old Cooks, the

rattled sorry Lenny, they are

many doesn't want.

Yeah.

Letty.

Listens and so did many like And

subscribe?

God damn it.

Yeah, become a patron, letting

the 50 dollar level, know what

we got to do is guilt our

investors into being patrons.

Yeah, exactly.

They won't.

Let me in the store.

And told everybody, we're going

to be members of the private

Lounge.

I mean, this is crazy.

We put that thing on Fred

Brewery that one time.

Did we, where you had to come to

the shop, like, 17 times where

you buy his cigar?

Oh, yeah.

That he's fucking solo.

That's like, almost any shop.

Not like crazy.

You know, excuse, there's a

light.

We kept count.

This is my fourth.

Visit to Cigar Hustler is the

fourth, the fourth, and the

second time that I did, my

flight arrangements around my

trip.

I appreciate the efforts that

you're almost, you're getting

very much.

You want to December got

canceled, so I had to change my

flight.

What a fucking bummer, dude.

No.

But I mean, it's like, you know,

I'm going to tell you something,

because we're totally candid

with you.

I'm very, we're very open.

I mean, I've had only like a,

I've only had a couple

conversations with you but I

don't know.

I just feel like you kind of get

it.

You understand a lot about the

industry like, you understand

when Bullshit being sent to you

through a retailer and then

someone just kind of being

totally grand opening.

There's always time for growth

so I could tell you that I will

give the bullshit to other

people and I have.

And like there have been times

where they'll counter back to me

and be like, oh well that's odd

because blah blah blah blah.

And then I want to fucking

counter back to them.

Say okay, well, here's the real

breakdown, right?

Like your product sucks your

fucking over price.

You don't know how to Mark, like

I could say all of these things.

But instead I'm just saying I'm

a past with you, right?

But you know, with you I'm like,

Hey listen.

The the time and you just

fucking off, you know, that was

conversation, right.

That then that's open and honest

with.

Well, the funny thing is I'm

down drinking nuts.

So I had the same appetite as

skip I like except I don't see

like to order five meals and try

a little bit of everything.

Yeah, I can't consume the amount

of protein.

Yeah.

I just I call him the protein

guy, right?

Especially beef that he can.

And, but a lot of the things

that Frank or not Frank, that

that skip like I like right.

And so we're down there and

we're drinking our Florida

Connie and Mexican Coke with the

ice up to a certain level.

Then the Mexican, the Florida

court has got a certain level in

the tumbler than the, the

Mexican Coke comes in or well

Nicaraguan cook down there, and

he goes, I thought you were

supposed to be in Florida this

week, like, well, let me tell

you a little story if your boys

fuck me, that's happened.

So, I changed my trip before

dried Sage of the Nicaragua,

because I had some stuff out of

work out before we close out the

air.

And I knew I was gonna be back

there in January, but you know,

those are I typically like to be

there before the factories

closed and there after they

open, right?

Okay.

Take over the out of it.

Just to make sure, you know,

these conversations that we are.

Remember I talked about before

and they don't review.

Yeah.

No, no no.

But you know, being a squeaky

wheel gets the grease, right?

Yeah.

And that helps especially when

you're an absentee owner, right?

Of a brand.

You know, I'm a brand owner.

Oh yeah.

Or it's like I skipped.

What's a designer?

Whatever you want to call me.

That's what I am.

But you know I want to have as

much hand And to have a Kusa

gives me that ability to do

that, I couldn't have that with

some of these other people that

make cigars true, like, you've

dealt with skip, you know, who

idea what, they're almost almost

the same way.

Like, I call it blending bowling

with your kids, you know, you

took your kids, bowling, they

guard rails up.

Yeah.

Right.

So the ball doesn't go in the

gutter, right?

Amica helps in Amica and Herbert

make sure that my ball doesn't

go in the gutter where were

working on, right?

Yeah.

So that's cool.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I like that.

I like, that's a good.

Good analogy.

Gee, you know, Skip always on

me.

I'll throw you in the pool, but

I'll make sure you have the

floaties, right?

Okay, or to each other.

Well, that's how I learned.

How to swim here in the ocean.

It's Timmy.

The ocean.

My uncle's made me go back and

forth and get a breath of air

notional.

You learn how to swim.

But yeah.

So so what do you got in the

pipe?

What are you working on

something?

New or you know, the most recent

thing that really kind of came

to Market was in two of our

lines.

The finally the miter bitola

came out which is like a

bellicose is type torpedo and I

call them Writers and all four

lines is because kind of Pope's

hat.

I got that from a buddy of mine

that works wouldn't Indian and

then there's all the stuff is

supposed to ship in October and

The Vespers welcome to Sky and

is she all right?

And so in a vest words just now

started shipping, which the best

where is of a toll on its a four

and a half by 44 that we're

calling those that were total of

Vesper and all four of our lines

worst-kept.

Secret is we're doing solamente

23 which Was a small run that we

did in the very beginning, which

was an accidental, run will be

at the show, try to get the best

person for five packs.

Debating that right now because

the price point What's the price

point at about 960 retail?

So it's up there, you know,

starts getting around that will

boost wrote or especially when

you're a brand owner, right?

And you're trying to keep your

not as linear as you'd like to

be.

So you know, there's a couple

components as, you know, and the

price of a scar is the tobacco

or the amount of tobacco the

bow.

Time and all that stuff.

And the other thing, you know,

when you talk about the amount

of time, it's amount of time,

the tobacco's Aged, and then the

amount of time before you roll,

it just a lot of different

factors in time.

But the most important is the

time it takes to roll it.

So and tortured order to do what

they do.

So it's a harder role than it

takes a little bit more time

than its this one little more

finesse.

Yeah, it takes a little bit

more, you know.

It's got one, less blind are in

it.

All my cigars have two binders.

Typical Nicaraguan Cuban ask,

you know, that kind of basic

architecture architecture.

Right.

But you know, in order to make

that work had to you know, when

you do that shape, or that size

that bitola you bring take one

the binders out.

Gotcha.

So and then we did the

firecracker with United that's

sold out and it was, I guess

it's sold on the streets.

That's what I'm hearing.

I always ask me.

I, you know, I didn't have a

list, I ship them all, 300 boxes

to United and that was that.

So that was a great example of

For us was there's a lot of

people that were experiencing

the firecracker for the first

time.

Well, I'll say it's for the

final section of our site for

the first time.

So yeah.

So yeah.

So it's kind of like

double-edged though.

It's good as a like, marketing

as well, right?

Yeah.

There was, there was no profit

margin that.

Yeah, but, you know, at the end

of the day, what it did with the

doors that it's already open for

us, right?

Great with the right people,

mostly all the right people.

So right, we want to be with so.

So what's been the hardest

thing?

That you've done that you like

fuck, I didn't really see that

coming.

There's the Strenuous of so far

of.

No.

So in this I just got asked that

question.

Did you was it on a podcast?

Because if it was I don't know.

I want to I don't know.

I want the answer.

No no.

Did I know everything that's hit

us?

We knew it was going to hit us

one way or another.

Right.

What I will say this I'd say

there is that that firecrackers

a lot more work?

Yeah.

Then you anticipated?

Yep.

Just because I'll have to do

with the kid dollar, right?

Oh how to do that?

That came to Allah.

We Had it, we didn't have it.

We got this and this wasn't what

they showed us on the quality.

And, you know, and then they're

like, Oh I thought you wanted to

make you know three million of

these three.

Yeah, no not three.

Oh yeah.

So you only need a half of bills

would be the bail so we're like

all right so we committed to

buying a male they're like

alright well we'll just so you

have a bell.

We got somebody else that wants

the other half in and worked out

in the quality was there.

So right I think it worked out

again so always there's always

fuck.

Yeah and then I want to make

sure that the Work, right?

Because it was based on a Saint

Francis plan.

We kind of amped it up a little

bit.

And how do you make a cake?

That would smell it.

Taste, good remove the Candela.

When the hell are the killer

it's ometepe seemed like just

put a bunch of other stuff in

there.

So you know what up, what up?

Let s we got one other special

project that were that we would

like to get launched this year.

Yeah that we're talking to some

fun people about yeah.

Okay I can't really talk yet, I

can't guess.

Can all guess guess.

Now I should have said that off

here but no, yeah, so why?

That's a I just don't want to do

a lot of Ellie's.

I don't want to do a lot of that

stuff.

It's just there's a lot of

people that there's a perception

about how big our brand is on

the market right now, and it's

very good and I'll take it,

right?

But the reality is in somebody,

like, you would understand.

And even other retailers, when I

had that conversation, they

understand that the perception

of our brand is a lot bigger.

There really is from this people

of the driving.

Verses on social media.

So a lot of people have to

experience our core line first,

right?

And I don't want to have it, you

know, we're simplistic in the

way.

There's four lines of cigars,

right?

And there's 64 dollars and

that's it.

They're all basically used the

same molds.

Will get a little crafty here

and there, but I want to do some

more projects but I don't want

it to be the bane of our

existence, right?

It's got to be.

I want people to All Saints.

So a great example is back home

where I live.

A lot of people are buying my

cigars.

And they were saying, Mickey pag

cigar one, Mickey Peg cigar or

people know me and right?

Yeah.

Now they're coming in like

wouldn't Indians like, oh,

they're coming in.

They're asking for All Saints,

right?

And I'm like, that's cool.

Yeah, that's what that means.

We're getting some brand

identification.

Right?

You know what was funny, was our

first container came on time,

and I know, I share those with

Mike and Greg are first.

Container came in and February

20 2008, and we are very

excited.

Also st.

Patrick's Day we're going to do

this big press release.

Well, you know, It hit so I kind

of freaked out a little bit and

I said I'm not going to sell

direct to Consumer, right?

So what I did is I loaded up my

car with igloos right delivered,

cigars had about 40 accounts in

the closest account to that

person there.

I gave that credit card to that

retailer to run it.

They're like so, wait a minute.

Oh yeah, yeah, do you do not

deliver?

You're not delivering cigars to

me, right?

You're giving me the credit card

number.

Then your invoicing me

afterwards.

I'm like, yeah, I'm not going to

send you 40 invoice like when

the aliens like a perfect

example, I'm not gonna send you

40, we'll put it on.

They're right.

Yes.

But I trust you you're going to

give me a check.

I don't want to credit card

right?

I live one mile from you right?

Right.

I can find you if I need to

there's a handful of retailers.

Good faith out of that.

Was I chasing good faith?

No, was I happy that it worked?

Yes, my keep doing that.

Yes.

When I put this like the blue

ocean, Terry, I want to put that

in the model from the beginning

but I was just trying not to go

crazy.

Right?

Because we didn't overspend,

during that time we already knew

what was going to cost us to

exist that year and There's a

lot of costs that we didn't take

on because of that, I slept in

friends houses because you

couldn't get in hotels, and they

were so excited.

So, on a Thursday or Friday

night, whether I was in North

Carolina, Florida.

Where a task, you know, a pet,

you know, 500 smoking, a cigar,

and some food and, oh, wow.

I was a lousy little bit of the

entertainment.

So, my buddies could show off

anybody's got a cigar and that

kind of doubt, and and I notice

there's no covid and Florida.

So I start spent a lot of time.

Yeah, we didn't have it here, we

still.

Yeah, North Carolina down.

Yeah.

So for the most part so how many

producing now and how many do

you what's the goal?

We think we just do like 400,000

scars.

Last year's pretty good man.

Yeah I like I like to hit that

million million stick marking

the are probably like 20. 25

would be nice.

Toy 26 with the reality of that

that's very hard.

The big hairy audacious goal.

You know, right?

Is that in place?

Where we're at what we're doing

in the facilities that were

using that capability?

Should be able to happen.

There there's certain Backhoes

that I am using because most of

that comes from the library of

what Rocky has access to, right?

So the 27 million cigars about

six of them came out.

Six million came out of the tap

of couse a factory that's as

Boutique Factory.

And then I obviously have to

Source tobacco here.

And there, there's certain

tobacco's that I'm using in

certain cigars, that are like we

can keep up with the growth of

this cigar, but don't plan on

using that and you're someone's

right?

Right, yeah.

So I'm working on 2024, my plan

for 2024 is one I'm working on

right now.

So that's what's going to be

different different or line.

So, it's different but I'm also

working with some fun to back

us, right?

And then I have this other

opportunity that I was alluding

to earlier that there will be a

lot of tobacco is that I don't

have access to directly.

I mean, I can probably get

right.

You can find them, right?

SDG&E.

And when you're friends with the

CG right unless they know, I'm

really good.

Justin.

Yeah, I get a lot of great ideas

from those guys.

Yeah, we can hell, is it you

fucking walked it back?

Did you see that?

He won't answer the phone?

No, there's no way.

Probably not, there's no

animosity.

There, there's a lot.

There's yeah, yeah.

God damn it.

We all had it almost.

It's okay.

It's alright.

You just go ahead and that's

what we got to do this.

The last call today when I got

Birds go get some Somebody's

quick on the draw.

I got a hit on the street.

We can get them to come and get

you.

Yeah, of course, I do.

They have.

And I Vega drop.

Yeah, they have a vast.

Yeah.

See that's exactly what the

hotel tonight.

Yeah.

All these things in my locker,

next door.

So the other thing that you're

working on is not affiliated

with the fact that you're

working with currently, Yes or

no?

Yes and no yes or no.

Who can I confirm nor deny, huh?

Interesting.

Very interesting.

Is it with one of these names on

Palmer's list not so with not is

an oxidant.

Is it knocks?

Uh I mean you know there's only

know everybody thinks I'm

working with knocks really time

we skip maybe it's good that I

would I would know about it

would hurt.

That's the that's the other

words kept secret.

We're trying something weird.

I mean I had a conversation with

him last week, you know?

Yeah.

You know what's?

But again you guys would be the

first to know about that too.

So yeah he wasn't them.

Yeah definitely you guys would

be the first ones.

We talk to ya if we you know

we're getting their legs under

that conversation.

Absolutely.

Okay or we on time you got an

idea.

We have 30 perfect.

Like we've done this before.

It's so crazy.

So weird.

Well is there anything else you

want to add before we let you

off the hook and and you know

damn we were so close but no I

think the only thing is I was

hopefully we could have a

conversation about me coming in

and when I could come in and you

kind of have that conversation

with well with well, it's

getting late,

we don't want to become a swag

company, right?

We're going to do something.

We got to do.

Our swag is not unique right

now, right?

But when we do get to that

point, we want to have that, you

know, we're spending all our

time and money on Tobacco,

right?

Yeah, my broker's.

Then me right.

Well, my travel gets paid first

before I get paid.

So we got to pay for my travel.

Yeah.

So that's that's where we're at,

so right?

We want to grow into it.

But also, you know, when you're

somebody that is exciting and so

much of a force multiplier in

the industry for a brand making

kind of situation.

When if something comes up With

a unique idea, right?

Like some of the conversations

we've had, that's where you get

excited.

Like, we'll figure out a way to

pay for that.

We could pay for that, right?

It's a way and if it grows and

we like it then maybe we take it

off the market.

But you guys do a little bit,

you do little bit more

grandiose.

Oh thanks.

Right.

So we can afford to do something

like that with you guys.

Yeah, of course the order or the

right customer push hard.

Lenny Lenny Melanie's got plenty

of houses in Portia's, 00.

Give us wonder how the money

will take a house.

What we want those guys to get

on the internet and like post

social media, right?

They didn't do it except one

guy.

I went to college with or two

guys went to college was the

other guys are just from a

business Acumen from the

background.

These are like CEOs CFOs of the

large companies that sold right

and they're all mostly in the VC

area.

Right?

So that you know, Looking at her

books and looking at the

business infrastructure of our

company a banana.

Yeah.

Yeah, you're always looking at

the evidence I was looking at

the EPS.

Yeah.

Well, nobody had what everybody

was looking at it three weeks

ago or two weeks ago.

Oh, that's so many to Millie

want to come and get mushy and

getting shit.

But, you know, I mean so that

that we're getting that we

thought we were getting this.

But we got something else in the

the people would pay especially

for my old, you know, grad

school days to pay a lot of

money to have these.

I'll serve on boards and write

and give them Direction and the

things to think about when

you're building something, you

know, even from something, you

know, from your PLU, no right to

you know your colleagues you

know?

Whatever the whole thing.

Yeah.

All right.

Yeah.

I mean we definitely have to

establish a game plan to bring

you on.

You know, obviously what our

plans were originally didn't

work out so we have to figure it

out for sure if you know.

But with that being said,

anything else to add mr.

Palmer.

I know what?

Appreciate you doing a little

schedule change?

Yeah, thank you guys.

Thanks for having me.

I because this is well, we are

the number one show.

So yeah, we are number one,

number one, show boots and I

mean Phil Phil.

And now he's boots today.

Oh yeah, but it's okay.

The shirt I boots.

Hey, you know, I don't know

nothing that.

What about if you ever supposed

to post Anya?

Yeah.

You know what?

I smoked my first one last year.

The Great Smoke.

Yeah.

He was in the booth with Luffy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well I was being a fan boy that

day so they've said come in and

take see which put your best

foot forward.

If you make it make the cut next

year.

So I was going out taking

pictures with everybody.

So we got sucked into Free

Labor.

Yeah, not this time, pal here.

Now with STG money.

I'm not fucking lifted a single

thing.

You better have a goddamn

Salesforce that's always nice

tablecloth and everything for

him last year.

That's it exactly.

That will make you.

Thank you so much for coming on.

Check, appreciate it.

Thank you.

Check out All Saints cigars.

If you guys, well, is going to

be on after the great smoke but,

you know, we'll be at the Great

Smoke and so we'll make Q.

So make sure you check them out,

right?

Will be on next week.

Beautiful.

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Show Notes

On this week's episode of The Cigar Hustlers Podcast, we bring you the latest news in the cigar industry, including the big story about the PCA 2024 expo moving to March. We discuss what this means for cigar enthusiasts and manufacturers alike, and speculate on what new developments we can expect to see at the event.

We also have a special interview with Micky Pegg from All Saints Cigars. Micky shares with us his journey in the cigar industry, how he got started making cigars, and what sets All Saints Cigars apart from other brands.

Tune in to this episode for all this and more, and don't forget to light up your favorite cigar while you listen.

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