Cigar Hustlers Podcast Episode 294 - Premium Cigar Industry Triumphs: FDA Regulations Overturned!
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Welcome to the Cigar Hustlers
podcast, episode 294.
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Wow, that's very sweet of you.
You're welcome.
You want to introduce our guest?
Please go right.
Ahead No, you want to We have
the infamous Howard G in the
house.
From Howard G Cigars.
Yeah, the guy.
Listen, this is my second time
on the second podcast.
Three more, you get steak
knives.
OK.
Yeah.
Hey.
Let's put it in five.
Who's paying for that?
It's.
A5 thing?
Yeah, who's paying for that?
Who's getting the steak, Kirk?
A steak knife?
Yeah.
I mean, we just cross off Mike
and Mike on the hand.
For free.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
If we only carried Garka.
We buy a box of just, yeah.
Diesel will be Diesel Steak
Night from Justin.
It'll be fine.
It'll be fine.
You're you're not as loud as you
normally are with the outfit
today.
Well, last time I was, I was in
the cowboy jersey.
Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying
like when I have seen you, when
you have been rolling, like when
you're hitting your accounts and
shit for one PCA.
Crushed on every single shirt
you're you know and then when
you looped in here and and you
dropped off our order pretty
sure that one was and there's a
name brand for all of these.
I don't even know what that is.
What is the brand?
It's.
Robert Graham, that's thank you.
Thank.
That's my uniform.
If not, I'm gonna be in some
type of Howard G.
Boozy motherfucker apparel.
Nice.
He I mean, I don't understand,
why haven't you linked up with
Robert Graham yet to make a
cigar like, how is that not
happened?
So the way their system sets up
is you guys have $50,000 in in
clothing?
Oh yeah, And so I'm like maybe
like 8 grand away.
You're like 40.
You're 840-8999.
Two more Pca's.
Then I can make my own design
shirt.
Oh, really?
That's actually a thing.
Oh, that would be cool.
What sucks is there used to be
25,000.
So then I'm like, hey, I'm going
way past that.
And then I pulled it up, was
like, well, a couple years ago
they changed it to 50.
I was like, look at this shit.
Now when you get to 50, they go,
oh, we up to 75, yeah, you got.
To get 100.
Right.
Eventually.
Yeah, eventually.
And at that point, you just make
your own clothes anyway.
So we were at the Bucks game at
the same time.
Yeah, two different sections.
Yes.
Two completely, completely
different sections, yes.
I was so high.
There I was.
I literally was eye level to the
to the clouds.
Oh no.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He got to connect.
He's got to hook up for those
because, you know there's.
But he's really high.
Though, well, the Steelers.
Not that good the.
Steelers are playing.
Yeah, so, so.
He knows the guy.
Yeah, that guy.
He didn't look see, by the way.
That guy.
That guy was in the press box,
Yeah, with the GM and stuff.
And he was like, bro, I got
tickets, man.
I want you to go.
I'm like, alright, so the next
morning I have the ticket sent
to me.
I'm like, alright, cool.
I don't pay attention to it.
Then when I get there, you're
committed.
Steady going up.
You got the guy walking in your
seat.
He keeps going and going and.
Then I get another one.
And then they're like, no Sir,
you're right.
And as I.
See that goat, Sir?
You're up past the mountain
goat.
And then when I literally got
there, we were literally the
seat prior to the last.
Row, but you're still in the
lower bowl.
No, that was not upper bowl.
You were upper bowls, he.
Was by the clouds, by the.
Clouds actually call that
section.
The nose bleeds.
Are you sure?
I feel with the club level, were
you a club level?
No, no, no.
He was at no.
Bleed above the club.
So I was eye level with the the
clouds.
You know where the stadium
shakes, right?
The good thing about it is, at
least I wasn't next to the
cannon, Yeah.
That could have been worse.
I had seats there one time.
I was horrible.
I know I had seats during the
right.
Right under where the Canada was
in the end zone.
That was great seats.
They scored a lot like for.
The cowboy game.
The cowboy game when we retired
Tom Brady, that's been literally
dilemma that.
Was a highlight that was a
highlight of last year.
That was that was, I mean
because then it was over after
that because you know.
Like then we got smacked.
Yeah, we got the shit kicked out
of here.
Pretty much.
But when the running back book
is like I know is over it.
Are we concerned about Dak and
his interception problems during
OTA's?
We're concerned about Dak in
general, period.
I mean, I'm, I'm just going to
be honest with you.
It's like, you know, we're going
to put all the weapons around
you.
There's no excuse this year
that.
You think so?
I mean, listen, I saw what ESPN
was bragging about for Dallas to
acquire Okay.
So we got Brandon Cooks, right?
Speed demon.
Okay, he's 110.
Right, But he stretched the
field.
Ronald Jones didn't really do
much in Tampa.
Well, well, we just need.
OK, so with Dallas with one in
the ball.
And there was one other guy.
Who was the third person you
guys acquired?
They're like, yeah.
Oh, the cornerback.
Oh yeah, Stefan Gilmore.
Yeah, so you put him on.
Also 110.
He's not.
Yeah, man.
Still.
A pro.
He's still, so you put him on
one side with digs on the other
side.
Bella Technos want to get rid of
him, bro.
He was already in Carolina last
year.
Come on, Bella.
Chet knows when to get rid of
him.
You sure?
Oh, he wanted to get rid of Tom
Brady.
What happened with Tom Brady he
got rid of?
Him.
Well, you know.
He wanted, he wanted Garoppolo
over the goat on me and we see
where that.
Went, you know, you know, he was
thinking long term.
He's, I think that one thing.
He's in the hot seat.
You think so?
Let him mess around and don't
get over 500 this year.
You think he's done?
No Mr. Kraft.
Mr., Kraft said.
He.
He got out of the rub and tug
and he said hey look.
Well, let's look at it.
OK, Yeah, let's look Little
better check you're.
Doing your sports show.
Career record, right?
Yeah, over here, OK.
This is the new front.
You got 3 levels.
This is the new perfect round by
the way.
Look at this.
Wait, wait, go to go to this
one?
Which one?
This one right here?
Delicious.
It's got a Connecticut rapper
and a Cameroon, right?
No, no.
Habano.
Habano.
I'm gonna smoke Dominican
Republic, Connecticut Shade,
Dominican Republic, Sungro and
Habano.
I'm gonna smoke the Habano.
I just want to know I paid for
these.
OK, good.
Just so you know.
Thank you.
You give a shit.
Very nice.
Oh, it's such a good friend.
There's a good friend.
I'll let Boots know that I get
the.
Smoke this.
Yeah.
Let boots know.
OK, So go ahead, Continue
quickly.
We'll wrap up the sports section
real fast.
All I'm saying is this if.
We beat the FDA, but we'll just
go on with this.
That's fine.
Yeah, we.
So we beat, if you look at it.
You look at it like this, you
say, OK, that's.
A strong the strong you be
strong.
You see label on the planet.
So you you have.
OK, so with this one, you want
to peel from here.
Yeah.
And then you have a front nine.
So you know what?
Open.
Web.
They're different ones in here.
Yeah.
So I'll take a front nine so you
can keep it even you have a
front and a back.
Steven, I didn't even notice
that.
So it's a mixed box.
Yes.
So it's it's so it's the front,
it's 9 foot nines and 9:00.
Front nine and back nines the
perfect round.
The perfect round.
Now I will, I will, I will say
this, I will say this, that
nobody else knows about this.
So this is first on the this is
our hustler.
It's just then.
For retailers, I I do realize
that it would be better for me
to mix the switched boxes and So
what we're going to do is.
The next boxes that that's gonna
come out so the 1st 400 is like
this but the next one will be 18
and 18.
You retailers are fucking lazy.
Yeah.
All you gotta do is buy two
boxes and separate them if you
really want to.
Yeah, the fuck is the problem?
But you know, people aren't
going when it's mixed up.
You know, I did and I didn't see
that, you know?
And what's the cool thing about
it is we say, well, smoke the
front nine and smoke the back
nine, right?
They're twins.
They're inseparable, smoking
together.
Yeah, but then I really hear
people saying, Oh my God, I just
love that front line.
Yeah.
And then I have guys that man,
Oh my God, I just love that back
line.
So then if it's if it's in there
together, sometimes they can
probably grab more than one of
that one and it doesn't keep it
the way I wanted it so.
So public service announcement
to any retailer that has
complained to the Howie about
the fucking cigars being in the
same box.
Just open up two boxes and
fucking separate them and what
the fuck are we doing here?
I enjoy.
I enjoyed.
I think it was cool.
It's something different I love.
To see, that's how you tell.
Them to go fuck themselves
'cause what's the?
Color two or three more years in
this industry you'll happily
look Man, I made it this way
because I wanted to.
Fuck off after he has his own
show, Robert.
Graham Let's see, this is my own
exclusive Robert Graham T-shirt.
And I fucking do what I want.
Yeah.
And you know, oh, you don't sell
the habandal as well as you do
the Connecticut well.
It sounds like a you problem and
a me problem.
So who?
I like having a box where you
get two different cigars.
I think it's cool.
Something different.
Yeah.
Geez, Palmer, have you smoked
any of these yet?
No, we just got them so.
I didn't go to the PCA I I got
to smoke both.
OK it is it is a nice boots got
to smoke both.
Sorry.
It is a nice set you know to
smoke one in the morning and and
he's obviously tailoring around
the golfer right.
So the morning time I didn't
catch that.
In the morning time when you're
teeing off at 7-8 AM you get the
light cigar and it does smoke
for a while.
You guys know I smoke cigar is
pretty quick, but it lasted a
while for me and then after that
you should be around whole 9.
It's probably 8 for me, but then
you get that back one and it's a
little bit more intense.
Is that is that boots's
breakdown?
Yeah, Boots' breakdown.
I'm gonna tell you that
Connecticut's pretty fucking
good, man.
I had that.
We'll have to review it on the
Patreon.
Clip.
Which one is that you talking
about the.
Front nine, That's the front
nine.
This is the back.
This is the back 9.
Noticed that he moved to the
front 9, Yes.
He said.
Because I wanted to keep it.
Even he said he's going to keep
it even, but I feel like he
likes the front 9 better than
the back 9.
He liked both.
Could be, honestly.
Because then he could have said
I'm going to join you guys and
have a back.
Yeah, I'm going to.
Keep it even the way I described
it I want, yeah.
That's what you're saying?
It says Phil has a front nine
and we're four people.
It's like we're going.
Oh, so we can trade halfway
through?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
We'll.
Switch off you I mean.
I was, which was Phil, you know?
He's bad.
Gotta switch the film.
Oh man.
Yeah.
Damn me, you're Mr. Cigar
International.
We don't know where it's been
over there.
Yeah, I mean, he did get caught,
that whole Jeep thing.
Yeah, middle of the jungle.
Oh shit, was Playboys and stuff.
Playgirls Who knows how I went
down?
Ready to get those gorillas off
of hater hater?
You know if you don't blow the
smoke right at the light over
there fell, it won't get to
smoke in your little corner over
there.
So you went to the game.
I thought for sure we're going
to meet up, man, I brought.
I was like, oh, you know, cuz
when I go like the trip to
Tampa.
Is an entourage.
It could be an hour and a half,
or it could be 3 fucking hours.
Exactly right.
So of course we were late to the
game.
I left at 4:00 and we were late
to the game.
We do and I bring a shit ton of
cigars.
So I'm like, oh, you know what?
I'll probably run into Howie,
and you don't run into Ike or
whatever.
Me bring some shit.
So I just I carried some stuff
kept in my pocket or.
Whatever I can him didn't get
together.
I no, no.
I was in the press box.
Yeah, but I thought, you know at
first what I thought that maybe
I could be on on the ground
level like on the field or?
Whatever, because you're down.
Then.
And then I'd yell, hey, I hey, I
it's me, Mike.
And then I would look awesome,
right?
You know what I mean?
Like your guess.
No big deal.
Are you the boys?
No.
And I brought somebody who's a
Pittsburgh Steelers fan.
Oh yeah, Mr. Baldwin No balls
on.
No, he's a bucks.
He's a Bucks fan.
He's like my standard.
I can bring him at anytime,
right?
It doesn't matter who they're
playing cuz he's a bucks.
Guy Gotcha.
Who's the Steelers fan that you
know?
Buddy of mine, His name is
Patrick.
Oh, so I brought him and I was
like.
You know what?
I'll see you, my friend, and
he'll.
Have so like the first hat.
So the first half of the guy.
I didn't say any of that.
No, no, you don't do that.
No, you don't do that because
then it does.
If it happens, you don't look as
cool.
Oh, right.
Gotcha.
You know you're just gonna wanna
buy and I.
Go oh, what's up?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wait, I could say hi to you
first.
I could.
I could probably look at me
like.
I think I know who you are.
Yeah.
Hey.
Who doesn't know Cigar Hustle?
Who doesn't know?
Right, Right.
Who doesn't know the muscle Man,
Right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's a thing.
The Polish White Hulk who
doesn't know the Polish White
Hulk?
Listen man, I've never seen him
without anything except the
white tea.
That is a new thing now, right?
That's.
The thing.
Yeah, that is, he read.
He read the only.
Person who wore more white teas
with him than him was Young
Jeezy, right?
Back in the day, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, he might have
thought you were young.
And you know he's doing.
Alright, hey, yeah, he's doing
about elevation.
Yeah, yeah, he's a.
Super super.
Yeah, he's doing well.
He said he had to leave some
people behind.
And I agree with that statement.
Sometimes you got to fucking.
You know what?
You know what?
You know what it's called.
You live and you learn and
you're growing.
You're mature.
That's it.
And instead of spending all the
extra money on chains and stuff,
he started realizing he can buy
up Atlanta and buy up all these
properties.
So you look at him now and the
guy has over 100 different
properties in Atlanta.
I think he sees it now.
He's traveling with his book.
That he came out with.
It's called Adversities for
Sale.
It's a memoir.
No shit.
No.
I turn on USA TODAY.
I see him.
I turn on the next day.
I see him.
I'm like, I love it.
I got to get the book.
I didn't know there's I got to
get the book and I got to get
him to sign it.
Yeah.
I got to get him to sign.
It, I mean, you got some Atlanta
hookups, right?
Yeah, well, you know, I met him,
came to see me, how he knows
everything.
The snowman.
Yeah, I'm not surprised.
Well, no, usually.
The fun guy knows everybody He.
Was pretty dope, dope when he
came to see me, Yeah.
Talking about cigars, he smoked,
he smoked three of those cigars.
Nice.
You know, that's.
Right, I remember that.
Yeah, so that's right.
You know, definitely a big fan
of the snowman, so.
When are you making a cigar for
him?
You know.
When he buys $50,000.
It's so much.
It's so much things we have
going on, like where we're just
constantly trying to lay.
The proper foundation, yeah.
With the company, I got to take
care of my, my, what we call day
ones, right.
That's that's that Leon and I.
Think how he broke that down.
Like, yeah, for the crude
layman's white people term.
You know, my day ones.
Well, I listen.
We are like Drake.
This is.
That was how me so I would
understand that.
This is by the way I called me
when I was on the way here and
he was like, damn.
I would have came if I would
have known you was going there.
I was like, bro, I don't know, I
thought you were still running
15 miles or something in the
rain, you know?
I didn't know.
So he was like, alright, well,
I'll link up with you.
But when I told him where I was
going, he was like, Oh yeah, we
got to run that back, bro.
That's what the back the the
private knowledge and stuff.
I said, yeah, I said.
Mike said you can do whatever
you want to do.
You can do private event, we can
do however he's like, yeah, well
let's set it up.
I said well we're going to have
to wait till the skillets give
you their schedule and it's
going to be a way game and we
can do something.
We'll set it up with Mike and
we'll do here.
He says his favorite thing is
say less, say less, Alright.
That's what I said done.
But.
So you got to take care of your
day once.
So this is what he said after
the show, after PCA, which is
what was our best show.
It was absolutely incredible.
We had a great time.
And afterwards it's myself, him,
Leon and and my wife Rachel.
And he said, you know, I got to
tell you this, Holly, I know
you're trying to bring on other
people and stuff like that.
I just want you to know me and
Leon, you burst us.
Anybody else is adopted?
I was like, Oh yeah.
Oh, I still.
Gotta love your top to kid.
So yeah, you know, I mean you.
Don't love them as much as the
ones that you.
Make, but you don't tell them
that.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, I say you can say that,
but you know, I'm not going to
tell them that because.
Right.
Other heavy hitters on, yeah
thing.
I mean like, don't, you know,
But I understand.
Yeah.
I mean, you're doing a lot of
things right, bro.
You know, you fucking work your
ass off.
It's not like you, you know.
You have friends that are, you
know.
Celebrities or football talent?
You're like, hey, we're just
going to coast off of your name,
we're going to sell a couple
cigars and that'll be it, right?
No, I mean you're you're
grinding it out.
You're doing all the shit that
you got to do in order to be
successful as industry, man.
And it's a lot.
It is a fun ton.
Listen, I know we was talking
about that on that on the first
show we did together, yeah, but
boy.
From that time to now, you're
not lying.
And it is.
And I got to still crank it up
another notch.
So, but you know what?
When I'm, when I'm, when I'm
driving, you know, I was driving
here, you know, I.
And matter of fact, when I
turned off, on off of Deltona, I
turned off.
I saw that it was raining and I
saw those people standing in the
rain trying to hold a sign up to
tell you to wait real quick
because they were doing some
construction in the road, you
know?
But I'm not standing in the
rain.
I'm not.
We're not digging ditches here.
You know what I mean?
We're literally making money and
we're smoking cigars and we're
meeting people and we're talking
shit and hanging out and
creating more relationships.
So that worked for me.
Really, is not really work,
because how many people do, you
know, that just hangs out at the
cigar bar for eight or nine
hours and they're not making any
money in the actual industry.
They just want the relationship.
They want the camaraderie.
And so.
A lot of those guys have more
money than me anyways, though.
I mean, let's be honest.
Hang on, you know?
Honestly.
That's true too.
A lot of them don't.
A lot of them just it's kind of
like you know when you, I don't
know if you played sports heavy,
but when you when you played
football or you was a star or
you didn't or you was well on
the team, you always had people
that didn't play.
But they really want to just
hang around and be around the
crowd, be around the group, and
it's the same thing in the cigar
world.
You know, the guys that they
just, man, they're like, we got
something to come and we smoke
cigars.
They want to touch you a little.
Bit, Yeah.
So they want to hang around and
stuff like that.
And you know, yeah, they do want
to, you know, they want to get.
Touch them.
Hey, what?
What?
What you smoking?
I mean, what you smelling?
What are you, what are you
wearing?
That's what I know.
They're real close.
I guess what?
Kind of Cologne you gotta like
man, bro.
Nice.
What is that?
But now it's just, it's just
awesome, man.
And meeting great people across
the country been real fun for
us.
So this releases, I think has
gone very pretty well for you,
right, I'll think.
Absolutely presold over 350
boxes at the show.
That's great.
I'm only created 400 of them for
that particular one and then now
we're going to split them up
that way and.
You know, we we we're having a
great time, man.
Really, really having a great
time.
The the response honestly is
what's really cool to me because
I really wanted to get it out
there to my guys that are really
golfers and you know where we
live at here, how heavy golf is.
But I mean I got guys that man
out of 365 days in a year they
play golf 180 to 200 days.
That's to me, is absolutely
incredible.
Do you think you're going to
make like Robustos and call them
like the front drunk 9 and front
drunk Like you know someone's
fucking wasted and they're like
they can't really, you know they
can't really finish the holes
but they want to look cigar.
Listen, we I'm always open for
suggestions because I I think
like that like I like to.
We like to build our own
trajectory and and do it our way
that's exclusive to how we we
come out with things.
But before we do that we
supposed to do that that mixed
cigar together that was yeah
when you sent me that duck.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, The Howard.
Howard that.
That Howard, that yeah, that was
that still is like a limited
edition or something like that
will be super hot.
Yeah, yeah, dude, I think that
was cold.
Dude, let's let's do that, that
that picture and do a store
exclusive.
Yeah, store exclusive.
Only sold that hustler.
Yeah.
Store exclusive Sold that
Hustler, right, and you're.
Going to get an e-mail about
that one from somebody.
I just want to know like all
caps.
As per my previous e-mail.
OK, I think.
That would be great.
Yeah, we're down.
But it was designed from here,
so why not right?
The Howard G Duck.
Yeah, yeah.
Like the Howard the Duck I have.
Something on my mind when you
guys are talking about golf.
Yeah, you call it the perfect
approach.
The perfect oh.
That's it.
That's alright, it's perfect
approach is the perfect round.
Yeah, that is true.
Yeah, I feel like you need the
micro.
Dose a little bit close.
Yeah.
Well, you know, when you're
teeing off or something like
you're approaching Anyways, I
like the Howard G1.
That was great.
Yeah, The Howard Duck.
Yeah, that'd.
Be great, Yeah.
So, So what do you see moving
into like to Q4 because I mean
you're you're obviously busy as
shit.
These just dropped.
They just came out.
Yeah, you know, we're going to
put them on the site ASAP.
What's What's the next for you?
What are you thinking?
So now what we're working on now
is for the next show.
Because, I mean it's going to be
short, yeah.
So now we're going to, since
they're moving it up, you know,
we were going to focus more on
the the PCA now since there
doesn't make logical sense for a
month turnaround, you know, so
we're doing that.
But what we do have coming out
now for the beginning of the
year will be the the hummy
packs.
So the way we're doing the Hemi
packs is going to, we're going
to have the, the, the Black
Moses.
So what we're going to put is
just one of them in the one of
each Moses in the Hemi packs.
Second of all, we're doing the
same thing with the magic stick.
And then we have one called the
five rings that we're going to
do.
And so the five rings is 3 of
the little sources and two of
the Ike Taylor Connecticuts.
That's cool.
And then so in the back of it,
it we'll talk about Leon
Searches, three national
championships and Ike's 2 Super
Bowls.
And so those will be our Hemi
packs that we put out to start.
After that I'm I'm thinking
about because of the success of
this it might be cool to do a
perfect round Hemi pack with you
know two and two or we can do
three and three whatever makes
the most sense because there's
there's a lot of stores like the
ABC Liquors and the and the the
Total Wine and stuff like that
that they have the cigar side,
so the store and when you walk
in there if you notice most of
those customers are looking for
like value grab packs or
something like that.
So one of the things about that,
once I realized I had a
conversation with some of the
larger brands and they told me
the type of numbers that move
throughout the country just off
of Huey Packs, I was like Oh
yeah, that is something that we
need to to step into for us.
Call them Howie Packs.
Well, and a lot of people know
more about the Black Moses Lion,
the Magic stage and all those as
well.
And so when you look at the
humid pack, it's like they're
they're getting a deal because
if it's like 4 cigars and then
you're technically playing
paying for three or five as
you're pretty much paying for
four and stuff like that.
And so people like that that can
at least get them to smoke the
cigar.
I like the six because then you
know, if you have, if you're
playing with two other players
or two other people playing
golf, everybody's got. 22 Yeah.
So with that one, we can do the
perfect round.
We put it with six.
Yeah, 3 front nine and three
back nine.
Yeah, that'll give him a chance
to smoke it.
And if you got somebody like
smokes like Leon on Cersei, he
smokes like a like he got a
Hoover vacuum cleaner throat.
Yeah, I believe that.
So that he just he's a big guy.
You watch him smoke, bro.
You just.
You you watch it.
Just.
Burns up the second you just
watch it.
Yeah, so for him, this wouldn't
work.
Two nines, he would.
He needs a lot of breath for
that body.
He would probably need 4, right?
Yeah, he'll probably smoke 2 on
the front nine and two on the
back.
Nine for.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Dude, that dude is cool as fuck
he is.
Yeah, he has the best stories in
the world.
I'm gonna.
I'm gonna hit him up.
I want to go to a Jacksonville
game.
I'm gonna.
I got you.
Yeah, yeah, we're getting a
bunch of them.
We'll probably go probably get
10 tickets or so.
I gotta see what the line was.
That'd be fucking awesome.
Yeah, you'll definitely do it.
I got it.
It's got to be when I'm not
going to the Tampa game, that's
the thing.
We got to work that out so well.
You only go to the Tampa home
games.
Yeah, yeah.
But I'm going to like half of
them, Yeah, because you got to
sell the other half of them.
Make sense.
Yeah.
But then again, you don't have
Tom Brady.
So is it going to really be
worth to sell?
I mean, it's going to be rough
year.
That's totally different.
Yeah, now you know there's.
Still, Florida.
Though, I mean there, like there
are still premier games, right?
Like Phillies coming to town,
you're not going to want to go
to that game.
I fucking hate Philly fans, bro.
But your stadium is totally
different, Philly whenever your
stadium compared to going to
Philly.
But those are those tickets.
Can I've?
Been I've been, I've been so
Philly, I've been to play
playoff games with Philly there.
I've gone to those games.
Oh, the one that y'all beat
them?
Yeah, the first year they had
hurts.
Yeah, I wonder.
The fans were really, like,
ridiculous.
No, I mean, you know, I think
that the worst fans that I've
experienced, to be honest, in
that stadium are the Saints
fans.
And I don't know if it's because
it's division or what was it?
Was it prior to Jamis or after
Jamis?
It was after Jamis.
It was Jamis on the The Saints.
No, I'm.
There were times where he was on
the Bucks and there were times
when he was on the Saints.
OK.
So you know, well, last year
when Evans, 11, leveled
Lattimore, I didn't bring my son
to the next game.
And I was like, you know,
listen, I just don't want to
bring you.
You know, because I don't know
how this is going to play out or
whatever the case may be.
And I'm glad that I didn't,
because there are these
extremely large fat dudes behind
me and dude and there.
Was nice and then just kind of
right in.
Yeah, there is complete
assholes.
They threw their box of popcorn
at the guy right next to me and
I'm like, oh man.
No.
Been even a worse situation with
a child there.
Yeah, so.
And so, like, here's an example
of what happens that this this
game, so.
You know, like what kind of what
I was saying upstairs?
I'm a big believer in that,
right?
Like, I'll reprimand my kid.
Don't worry, my kids not getting
off the hook for shit.
You don't get to reprimand my
kid, right?
So we sit down and my son likes
to stand there in the game the
whole game.
He's 10 years old, right?
He's excited about the game.
He likes to try and get beads.
And whatever the case may be, we
have great seats.
We're in the front, right next
to us is this family of Steelers
fans, right?
And we're at like the 30s, so
the game is kind of down this
way, right?
And this lady doesn't want to
stand up.
So she looks at my son and
she's.
Can you sit down?
I can't see.
So my son sits down.
I go, excuse me, I go, Why'd you
sit down?
Because she told me to.
And she looks at me and she
goes, well, you know, we can't
see.
I said, so stand up.
So stand up too.
You're perfectly able to stand
up.
Absolutely.
You can stand up and cheer on
your team.
She goes, well, I have a son
too.
And I'm like, he can stand up.
Too, he can also stand up.
If he can't see in this section,
right?
So I looked at my son, I said
you go right ahead and you stand
up.
And he stood up the whole
fucking time.
I was like, alright, cool.
Now there's a guy right behind
him and he was an older dude,
like he was an older guy.
So he tapped me on the shoulder,
said, hey listen, can you do me
a favor?
Is it okay if your son sits down
when they're just directly in
front of me because you know, I
struggle to stand.
I said absolutely man, no
problem, you know, happy to
accommodate you.
But if you're a lady or a kid or
something and you don't want to
fucking and you're going to a
sport game.
Exactly.
Stand the fuck up, Stand up or
watch it at home.
See, that's why I go to NBA
games.
I like you.
Sit down.
You sit down.
Yeah, that's much standing in
basketball.
Yeah, yeah, because there's like
1 breakaway crazy dunk or some
shit.
Oh, when they when they when
they coming down the lane and
you see the high rising, you
jump.
Right, You start to go a little
nuts, right?
He kept the mask on.
He put it back on.
It must be time for Phil's.
While he's getting there.
Getting ready, he took it off
the breathe a little bit.
Right.
Yeah, I have to breathe.
But Phil Never Room is a mask.
So yeah, no, Phil.
Always.
He keeps it on all.
So yeah, I mean fuck that guy.
You know, like and you know her
husband was next to him.
He didn't say shit to me.
And so as the game progresses,
you know Jax is he has it's an
art form as far as acquiring
shit from fucking the Bucks guy.
So he's got beads, he gets
shirts, he gets all this shit,
right.
So you get some beads.
And I said give it to that kid
see if the kid wants some
because he these kids are trying
to get some but they're ignoring
any Steelers fans.
So.
So my son goes to hand them to
him.
He goes, hey you want some?
And he looks at him and you
could tell that he didn't know
how to respond.
The kid didn't.
We're not supposed to like each.
Other.
Yeah.
And he's.
Like I can't like you.
So he stands.
Around like, I don't know, he's
worried that his mom would get
mad or some shit.
And he goes, no, I don't want
him like you, motherfucker.
You know you want these bees.
He fuckinged up.
Should have just held him out
and turned away like you take
him.
I won't look, dude.
Like, get over it.
Stand the like, I have no
problem with the comp, you know
what I mean?
Like, I don't mind saying to
you, dude, get your shit
together, stand the fuck up.
I'm not gonna sit here and you
know.
Gain some type of rage and be
upset about it.
Like I'm moving the fuck on.
If you want to continue to be
angry about it, you know, and
your family wants to be mad
because he's standing up, then
guy go right ahead.
Do you fucking.
But you just passed up on the
things that you were trying to
get.
Dummy.
Big dummy.
And if you're mad that someone's
sitting in front or standing in
front of you, you should about
those seats.
Right.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Sorry about your luck.
Yeah, exactly.
His teeth just hit the.
His teeth at the mic?
That's kind of hilarious.
Can we get this all the way?
Yeah, well.
We'll get into Phil's fun facts
and then how he will cover some
of the news and get your
opinions on some of these
things, I think.
That I didn't really pull much
news.
I figured we'd be talking to
Howie.
I've got two stories.
That's it.
That's it.
We'll talk.
We'll talk more to Howie Welcome
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I'm trying not to, all right?
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In Cuba, cigar smoking is a
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A professional sport is
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Probably the most popular team
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Yeah, very nice.
Thank you.
He sounds so much better all of
a sudden.
So weird.
He.
Stretches that mouth.
Well, I mean one of these
things, these new things I want
to talk about anyway, so.
When he's on the camera, it's.
The big one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
From the four quarters of the
world, All the cigar industry
news you could possibly need.
The Cigar Hustler Podcast report
with Mike too The big story of
the week Premium cigar industry
beats FDA in Court.
Regulations are vacated Premium
Cigar industry has won the
lawsuit against the FDA.
Judge Emmett P Mahatta of the US
District Court of the District
of Columbia has ruled in the
premium cigar industries favor
by vacating the US Food and Drug
Administration's deeming
regulations for premium cigars.
The ruling means that the
deeming regulations introduced
by the agency in 2016 do not
apply to any cigar that meets
the courts.
Definition of premium cigars,
meaning that those cigars are
unregulated by the FDA.
That what you want to talk
about, Michael?
I do, yeah.
Yeah.
Please.
Well, I think it was kind of
humorous to me about the whole
thing.
All I have now is what makes it
a premium cigar, but we've been
over that hundreds of.
That's the original judge from
2016.
Yeah, it's been sitting on this
thing for what, five years now?
Yeah, I mean, he kind of slammed
them, oh, a few years back and
said you guys have no, you're
right.
So that now it's confirmed,
right?
Everybody likes to take credit
for this shit.
Everybody, everybody.
Hey, first headlines I saw was
at the CRA.
Yeah, we did it.
Now the PCA saying this Look,
all this money we spent.
We did it and.
Rocky Patel was like, no, no, I
did.
We did it.
No, I did it.
Like, the real bad motherfuckers
are the ones that actually
contributed and focused on doing
this shit and asked for no
fucking whatsoever, right?
They're like, alright, cool, we
got more shit to cover, we got
more grounds to fight, right,
You know?
There's other things going on
now we.
Move on.
Like, let's celebrate.
You know, my boy Jerry.
And Jerry Catron.
He did like a these are the top
brands that you should be
thankful for.
I saw this and I'm like, yeah,
what do you fucking wait, wait
there.
You fucking wake up angry is
like that's Is this a thing now,
you grumpy fuck?
Oh, I saw that when you posted.
Yeah, like, I don't get it, you
know, like I'm not bowing to
anybody, not take, you know,
like.
No, everybody had a piece of it.
So thank you.
Nobody.
A lot of people contributed to
it.
And I'm sure a lot of people
that contributed to it haven't
even been mentioned.
No.
Right.
And.
They don't fucking care if they
get mentioned or not.
No right And and there.
None of these guys did it for
me.
No, they did it for them.
They did it for themselves,
right?
We didn't.
They did it to protect
themselves so that they can
make.
I didn't do that.
I did it for you.
So that Rocky Patel can continue
on his Learjet video that I saw
with Kirk Kendall nice and on
his boats with Abe.
And you know, yeah, you know,
like.
And I'm not.
And I'm not shitting on the guy
for.
I mean, hell, dude, if I had
that much online, of course I
would do the same thing, right?
Sure.
But I'm also not saying hey.
We should come up with a press
release and we should say we did
it.
OK, we'd like to acknowledge all
of.
Our podcast would like all of
you to thank us for getting this
pushed.
Through for the unconfirmed
millions of dollars in which we
contributed.
Yes, millions.
Unconfirmed.
And personal meetings with Judge
Mahatta.
Yeah.
So I'm completely ignorant to
this case.
OK.
So what did it do?
Well, the FDA has been trying to
regulate premium cigars.
For since 2016.
Yeah, is this the flavored thing
or this is?
Everything.
So you know they worked, go
ahead.
They worked on these terms
called substantial equivalency,
stating that you know your cigar
had to meet the requirements of
every any single cigar that was
made from I think was like 2007
or something like that.
And you know, then they tried to
make it so that.
How would you break that down?
How you know?
Like how could you determine
the?
Soil samples from the factory.
What kind of water did you use?
Oh, you got to spend more money.
Yeah, well, not only that, but
it's it was it's impossible to
do.
It's a third world country.
They get the water from the
Creek Outback.
We get it from the Creek.
With the buckets.
Right, the buckets or you know,
bamboo.
What it Here's what it would
have eventually done.
What it eventually done was it
resulted in like 3 or 4 guys
making cigars for you.
And then nobody else would have
been able to compete.
You had to pay to have your
cigar tested.
So the little guys would die a.
Lot of little different went out
when they heard it was gonna
happen.
Yeah, they packed it in.
They packed it in.
I'm done.
I can't afford this.
Yeah, I'm not doing this.
So how do you feel about the FDA
when he's done what you got?
I mean, I agree with.
You Howard had a lot to do with
it.
He He helped.
He was a major contributor.
Major contributor to the.
Cause.
Thank you, Howard.
Thank you.
Thank you, Howard.
Listen, I don't need any thinks.
We're just looking out for each
other.
Such a nice guy.
I love how I mean, hey, so
humble for the for the people.
For the people.
Do you see all the billboards
that are going up against the
Morgan and Morgan?
I think you want on the rise
some of those.
Do you think it's against him or
you think it's him creating more
media?
It says fool the people on it.
Do you think maybe he's creating
more media?
I don't know it's possible.
It's possible either way.
Who has enough money just to?
Throw some up.
Bullshit.
He was smoking.
That marijuana he's been getting
legalized.
He's like, you know, be great
idea.
Put a fool hat on me on the
Billboard.
We did a reverse campaign.
As soon as you go to that
website and redirects you to
mine.
Click here For more information.
You'll see it driving home, OK?
It's like right before the
Longwood exit on the right hand
side, and it's Morgan and Morgan
and they dressed him up.
They painted a clown on them and
all types of shit.
Maybe it's damn.
Dan Newland, Dan Newland.
He's crushing it.
Yeah, well, he's got a couple
of.
Jets I feel like it's somebody
that got screwed over on a deal
and had enough A.
Lot of money to waste after
again screwed.
Dude, but you know there's this
whole realm of people that have
just fucking retarded money,
yeah?
That's true.
You know what I mean?
SPA thing, yeah.
So.
To be interesting.
If it wasn't something he did,
wouldn't you think he'd get an
injunction by now or something
to make him take him down or
something?
I don't think that you can.
I mean, it's freedom of speech.
Yeah, but it's.
Gotta be something.
He's a lawyer, for God's sake.
Yeah, there's some defamation of
character.
Yes, something he can do.
Maybe, but I feel like the
person who put it up is
obviously smart enough to do it.
Unless it's him.
Unless he did it himself.
Maybe it's bad.
I will mean it has him to do it
himself.
No, I wouldn't either, cause
he's the largest.
What is it?
He's got offices.
Everywhere.
In the world.
In the world.
In the.
Universe.
I saw that, Yeah, universe.
Yeah, Morgan and Morgan for the
People offices everywhere.
Right, basically what you'd say
now.
Yeah, pretty.
Much everywhere you go in
Florida that you see an office
somewhere.
Yeah, it's not just Florida.
It's.
Well, I know, but everywhere.
He lives in Lake Mary or some
shit on there.
Yeah, yeah, you hang out with
him.
He knows him.
I know, I know he.
Is you know, you know?
Does he know you?
He knows of me.
He knows.
He knows who you are.
He's they come out with a my my
attorney is what they both
graduated together.
OK, you play golf with them.
You've met him.
I've met him.
Yeah, nice.
But you get in your cups
together with him, a few drinks
or some shit.
He drinks a lot, yeah.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
You always throw.
Allegedly.
Allegedly, Yeah.
Allegedly.
Got you.
Yeah.
It could be apple juice, yeah.
Right, right.
It just.
Spoiled apple juice could.
Be.
Has he had the front 9 yet or
the back 9?
No, I haven't seen him come to
my event.
No, Yeah, I don't know.
We're not talking about.
Not a Steelers fan.
Not a Steelers fan.
I mean, maybe Jacksonville.
I don't know.
You got to ask the hard
questions, bro.
Let me see this guy.
I mean, come on.
I feel like I like talking to my
attorney.
My attorney is cool.
You know, right.
Anything I want to know about
him, I just ask my attorney
because they get the details.
He's the back channels.
I like it.
I like it.
Okay.
Okay, next story, yeah?
Mccalliff takes over All Saints
sales Mickey Pegg joins
Mccalliff.
Yes.
What is what?
A friend, Mickey Pegg, has been
consumed.
Mickey Pegg has been named the
President of Sales for Not Even
oh.
What's up?
Mickey Pegg can see PEG.
No, no other way around.
Oh, he found himself.
He fucked himself up and got
himself a job.
Which is happened.
And all those photos at home
with his family and All Saints
Cigars, a company Co owned by
PEG, will now be sold by
Mccalliff.
Sales team.
PEG will lead him.
CALIPH sales team that is 7
people in the field, 6 sales
representatives and PEG will
leave or we did it.
Andy Yaffe, National Sales
Director and will now sell
products from All Saints Press
release indicates that most
other operations, fulfillment
and invoice will remain
separate.
While PEG is joining McAuliffe,
the ownership structure of the
two companies has not changed,
and therefore the.
New companies remain separate
entities.
Oh, so they weren't consumed.
They run separate.
Yeah, but it sounds like he.
Got he?
Now he's president of sales for
McAuliffe.
No, we got a salary.
Yeah, no, no breaks all gas.
Right.
I'm thrilled to roll up my
sleeves and work hands on with a
dedicated Salesforce once again,
said Packet Pressure Lease
Oklahoma.
It's not gonna say that.
I'm transparent that All Saints
cigars is my Plan A and there's
no Plan B.
While implementing a strategy
with McAuliffe that I firmly
believe in, our decision
strengthens plans A yeah at
calling.
Ask how much he makes.
Michael, did you connect?
I think it's, I think it's only
80,000.
I don't know the answers for
McCall of.
That's bets, bets, bets, bets.
Huge.
Huge and with the client right
now, huge.
I thought it clicked.
That answer Do I give out his
number on the podcast?
Yes.
Remember how we did this last
time?
You Don't you breathe 50.
Peg, I'm not available right
now, but please leave your name
and a message or whatever I call
number except for the last two.
Have a great day.
Sounds so happy at the town,
please record your message.
When you have finished recording
you may hang up or press one for
more options.
Hey Mickey, this is Mike from a
Cigar Houses podcast.
You're currently on the podcast
even though you couldn't answer
the phone, I.
Want to buy McCall of cigars?
We just have with a.
Guy, we have a couple of
questions here.
With this unification of sales
and to see that you're labeled
president, just kind of curious,
#1 is what the salary is and how
much you getting paid for
something like that.
So if you can give us a buzz
back, we're going to ask you
some seriously hard questions
and we'll see you later.
Huge.
That was that.
I was gangster.
That was gangster.
I gotta give it to you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Mccalliff has their own factory
and his fat His cigars are made
by Rocky Patel, right?
I'm gonna be honest.
Rocky.
That's one of the last cigars.
Yeah, I've never smoked a
McCallum cigar.
No, we don't carry him here.
We had that.
They had a young lady who was
their Rep for a while.
She came in here a couple of
times.
And she didn't smoke cigars.
It was really weird.
Is it Dominican or Nicaragua?
MCALEF is Nicaraguan you.
Gotta work on that still.
Working on one.
How you say Nicaragua?
Did I say it wrong again?
And Karaka sounds a little
racist.
How he was that racist, I don't
know.
Oh wow, I don't think so.
Thank you very much, my friend
Howie.
You're just lucky that he's so
sweet.
My friend Howie, he would know
if I was being racist.
He's pretty chill.
It's pretty chill talking about
putting the brother on the spot.
What the hell?
Is going on.
They say I'm racist all the
time.
I have, I have some others.
I have some other sources that
we're going to, we're going to
exploit.
Yeah, we're going to review
some, some of your comments
every once in a while.
Yeah, nice.
It'll be good.
Who else we going?
I don't want to tell you.
I'll let you know.
But yeah, alright, so no, no
answer on Mickey Pegg.
No answer.
Mickey Pegg.
The retro hell on this is
phenomenal by the way, if I
have.
To you know, it's really good.
I'm enjoying it.
The front nine is a fucking
banger.
Yeah, the the the retro island
is pretty hot.
A fucking banger.
But I like the back nine too.
But back to you.
I don't want to interrupt you.
No, that was the only two I
pulled.
I figured we'd talk to you more.
That's not a bad choice.
I'd like to know one question
about your cigar.
What?
How did you come up with a box?
Like why the?
It's golf, so it's green.
Well, no, I understand the
color, but why the crisscross of
the clubs with the ball and
stuff?
It's kind.
Of like a skull and bones thing.
Yeah.
Is that, is that what you're
going for or well, well, no.
So if you look at it, if it's
designed for golf, right,
there's also two different
sticks in there.
I might as well put two
different types of golf sticks.
Also these are two.
Two, there's a driver and
there's an iron or something.
Well, no, I'm just saying
there's two sticks.
OK, right.
So but there's two different
types of sticks.
So if it was just one complete
blend in there, you know, I
probably could have stayed with
that 1G stick thing, but I
wanted to make it.
And then it'd be the magic
stick.
And now we're going a totally
different direction.
Absolutely, yeah, That magic
stick.
No, I really enjoy.
When it comes to like your your
boxes and stuff like that, you
know, when I'm looking at A at a
cigar, like you know, you see
the same wooden boxes, you're
just kind of like, you know,
nothing's really going on with
it.
Yours are, yours are different.
You just go around.
Yeah, you just kind of look at
the box, I mean.
Well, the the the other ones are
more traditionally Nicaraguan or
Dominican looking.
What about that one?
What about that one?
Do you hear him say that one?
What do you think?
Oh my God.
Lord, he just has a little
accent when he has to say
Nicaraguan.
Yeah, he's gotta, he's gotta
work on it though.
Don't be sorry.
Be better, man.
It's that's.
Thanks Ally.
It's OK.
You smell very nice, by the way.
Yeah, Thank you, man.
What is what?
Is that Mel Palmer's nervous?
Nugget letter Nuggets to his
neck a little bit.
What is that is that it's
amazing.
So did you do this on yourself?
No.
So I have a marketing team, so I
pretty much have a conversation.
Tell them what I want, you know,
then, then then just start
sending stuff.
And then either Rachel look at
it and then find out what she
likes and then send it to me and
then I'll I give a pretty much
the final gotcha.
Or if I want to add something to
it, I just want to give it that
golf theme, design it towards
that.
But I also want to have it
stayed and you understand with
the, with the, the core value of
the brand and the lookage, how
we look with the, you know, the
the Howard G stamp on the top
and everything.
That way I was gonna do a
different type of box.
And then I was like, you know,
I'd rather keep it simple, keep
it clean and keep it right
looking the way we we.
Got a Magnum on there too.
Yeah, that's nice.
No, I noticed, I noticed in the
logo.
Are you were established in 85
or that's when you were 83?
That's when you were born.
Me personally, I was established
in 83.
OK.
So that's established.
Yeah.
OK.
How old did you think?
Poor how he was.
Yeah.
Making cigars for the last 40-5
years.
How long do you think he wants
Phil?
My father was 40s.
Oh, sorry.
Well, I mean, he's getting
there.
Yeah, but you know, like, I
listened to his stories and
stuff all the time.
I think he's a little older
than.
He's only older than me by a
little bit.
Well.
If he was established in 83, I
mean technically this year he is
going to be 40.
If he hasn't turned 40 already,
no I'll be flooded in November.
What are we doing Nice.
What kind of party are we
invited to?
Or we're just invited?
I mean, that's the Big Four.
Oh.
Now we're inviting ourselves.
And will your lawyer be there?
Look, I have to see.
Honestly, I don't even know.
What You know.
Gotta contact.
You know what?
I don't want to nitpick.
I don't want to get ahead of
ourselves.
His wife does everything, so
we'll contact.
I don't.
Want to get ahead of myself
here, but did you invite Howie
to your birthday party?
No, no, we haven't had it yet.
You invited.
We haven't had it yet this year.
OK, I'm just saying.
Well, you might want to lock
that in, because I invited Howie
to my birthday.
Is first.
Well, OK, first of all, normally
we have our birthday party here.
Yeah, Hustler, OK.
But that there's a lot of things
that have happened to where that
I don't know if that's
happening.
Oh, you're saying cuz I trumped
that cuz I did my.
Can't do the same thing.
I won't be here for my birthday.
Oh, where are you gonna be?
At Tanner's wedding is the day
before my birthday.
So then what about you?
Yeah.
I mean, I'm in.
We'd like to come to my son's
wedding.
It's in Missouri.
See, he's not inviting him to a
birthday party, so I just.
Haven't put it together, we'll
be.
Having a birthday party.
You don't have to really include
him, that's all I'm saying.
Thank you.
Yeah, well, you know, I could
throw a party here too.
Man, that's party.
Hey, that's right.
There you go.
It's a snap of a finger.
I could have a party.
Yeah, it could be several
things, you know, He could do
like a whole week of this. 40 is
big, that is 40 is party here.
Yeah, yeah.
We won't go to the other place.
We've declined that invitation.
I mean, yeah, the way you work
it out that we don't want us to
show is you have it there like
oh sorry guys, we will have one
here as well.
Nice.
The consolation party will be
here.
Hey, the better party.
Yeah, that's true.
But you can invite him to come
here if you want.
He won't come here, but this,
this, this, this one, we'll have
a, like you said, at the private
lives that'll be we'll do
something like that and only the
it'll be invite only.
Only if I can get Merryweather
yelling fucking penalties in the
background like you did last
time calling shit.
He's definitely going to come.
That shit was amazing.
If if he doesn't get, if he
doesn't get invited, it'll
really be a problem.
Yeah, you know, ain't know at
this point.
It's at this stage of life, even
though we're the same age, he's
had, you know, 572 more
concussions in his career than I
ever had, right?
Right.
And so it's not even worth it.
You know just put a guy on the
list because if he's not a list
he's going to be mad and since
all kind of racial text messages
to That's nice.
I thought we were M effing boys.
You in Word.
I like dude.
Yeah, I'm a huge brand of fan.
I love Mary.
Well, he sees with me we're
we're, Tim is.
Guy is my speed, about 3-3 about
three nights a week.
I'm using with.
Brad Yeah, yeah, that guy is
hilarious, man.
Dude, we were watching the game,
We're watching the UFSU game
and.
I I didn't know what the hell
the penalty was when we were in
the private lounge all of a
sudden in the background like
you forgot he's there.
He's just kind of quiet and you
hear illegal motion and then the
and I don't think the announcers
knew.
I don't know what the penalty is
for and.
Then we saw it, yeah.
And I'm like, that was fucking,
that was fucking amazing right
there.
That was fucking amazing.
But you know what?
It's always cool when you when
you're actually watching games
with with guys like Brandon and
especially Ike.
Especially definitely Ike
because of the way their.
Eyes, Right.
How they read the Yeah, they see
it differently.
We look at, we look at it
totally different than they look
at it.
Yeah, you're being entertained
where they're more looking for
what's going on.
We're.
Watching from the cheap seats,
you know, we're like, what is
this should?
Give them their own flags and
see if they can get it out
before the ref.
Right penalty.
Penalty.
You know or they call who it's
going to, you know.
That was number 76, bro.
He How did you see that?
Right.
I was watching the. 76 Even on
the field, I didn't even see him
right, but that kind of stuff
happens.
There was like, did you see the
penalty for Pittsburgh with too
many men on the field or you see
that?
What was that fourth quarter?
Yeah, I was gonna.
You already left.
Yeah, we were left.
Did you guys all drive together?
Yeah, he left early too.
Yeah.
It's a long walk from way up
high.
No, I excuse me to text.
Hey, yo, I'm in the truck.
Oh, really?
You give us no warning.
No, no, I'm leaving.
Or, you know, we're going to go
in 10 or so.
I told my buddy with me.
I said, man, I said ice in the
truck.
He's old.
Let's go.
I was like, you gotta say
nothing to me.
I think I sent you a text.
Oh, no, you text me who's
already.
I told you we already.
I was like, where, yeah, we're
going to meet up.
You're like, shit, I'm already
on I-4.
I'm like, yeah, we were in
Lakeland by that time, bro.
Like, God damn.
No, no, You sent me a text
saying we got him right where we
want.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I'm like, well, if I left the
game it was 27 to 7, you must
score the touchdown.
So then I look at my phone like,
oh bucket is scored ten more
points.
So instead of my ass whipping,
you lost respectively.
Hey, you know what, man?
By 10, dude, I just like to go
and have a good time and I'm
gonna stay the bitter end, you
know what I mean?
I'm fucking.
We're riding this out.
I want to see some shit, you
know?
And you know what was sad
though, is sometimes like you
saw, I saw one guy, he was a
cornerback, he was covering a
player.
He came down on his foot the
wrong way.
And I'm pretty sure he blew out
his ACL, man.
And you could see the tears in
this guy's eyes.
I'm like, fuck, you know what?
This is week one.
You know, when you think about
it, it was Week 1 or?
No, this is pretty with that
game that is the week one of
preseason.
Where's preseason?
Right.
And this happened in the first
quarter or later?
It happened towards the end, so
it's so obviously it's not a,
it's not a starter, right.
So it's not somebody that's
made.
For a spot, it's not the direct
backup if you're in the fourth
quarter.
So now it's one of those 90
percentile that's trying to make
it to the 53 men Roster A.
Unicorn.
And so now he injures itself.
So what?
You can cancel Christmas.
Right.
It's over.
It's over.
Even if he made minimum, which
is probably, what, half a
million a year or some shit,
Hell no.
How much you make for minimum?
I mean, I think minimum is like
you don't make 180 or something.
No, if you don't make the team,
yeah, but I'm saying you go to,
you go to like the guys that get
cut, that don't make the team,
but they still want you around.
You go to the practice private
school.
Yeah, those guys make like 8090
thousand.
You know I'm saying, but if you
made the team.
Thing is like 100 and 80 or 160
something like that.
Come on, man, it's gotta be more
than that.
But you.
But check this out.
You don't mean to tell me?
I'll take 100 and I'll take A.
I'll take $1.60 to sit on the
bench, but sixty, you don't get
the chance to sit on the bench.
Yeah, and but if you would if
you were third string.
I'll be tenth string.
No, there's no such thing you.
Mean to carry all the helmets
I'm.
In I'm in the water.
The other practice dummy.
No, I know.
So it's like it's a strap.
You to the sled and they just
like, I played running back,
right?
And I was on the practice squad
on the Cowboys.
I got to go up against the
Cowboys starting defense and I
got to play the running back
from the opposition team and run
their plays.
So make sure my jerseys red.
I got to run towards Michael
Parsons, who's about to probably
next year or the year after set
the whole market in the whole
industry that's you know.
There's might be some practice
squad guys up.
You're just getting hit, but I'm
gonna get hit.
I'm gonna get leveled by this
guy every time for them $80,000.
So many to raise and this guy is
going to be making 8 million a
game.
You know what I'm saying?
Like exactly like 8,000,000
every month or something, right?
And I'm getting $80,000 for the
season.
But you do have some good
tickets.
Apparently not.
I mean, he's got the connect
with like and he was over there.
Fucking yeah.
But what not that was different
that that that was.
That was first of all, the away
game is pretty so.
You wrote like to the game,
Yeah, Yeah.
So then when you get there, he's
like, I'm going to press box
you.
Pretty much, yeah.
Yeah, you guys.
Are up there I mean.
That's how that works.
I'll see you after the game.
Alright guys, he's a scout.
Well, no, no, I understand what
you said.
He's going with the GM.
It was a casual flex on his
boys.
Yeah, of course.
But you would think if he's
taking you with, you're going to
sit.
No, he's like in the game he
wants to go to.
He's going to give you tickets.
Now when I go to Pittsburgh,
it's not the same Pittsburgh.
They're now on the field.
You should have just kept
walking with him until somebody
put their arm in front of you.
No, no, no.
That's more.
Embarrassing, you know?
And then I have somebody.
It was, it was one of my, our
top brand ambassadors with us
anyways.
So yeah, it was it was cool.
I just didn't know it was going
to be that high, is what I was
saying.
Right, right.
And the same text message.
I said I got sent you.
That's why you were laughing,
because I was like, bro, really
dying.
I said, I swear to God, I almost
touched the blimp.
We.
Had to duck with.
Him all over.
The Other cool thing that
fucking happened to that game
for me was #19 on Pittsburgh.
Last name?
Awesome.
They caught that bomb.
Yeah.
His dad was behind.
You right behind me, dude.
And he was going nuts and he was
so excited and like, God, that's
got to be such a fucking good
feeling because.
He actually got hurt last
season.
He never made the field, broke
his foot or something.
So, you know, to see his kid
come around, I'm like, damn,
that kids pretty talented and
he's only like 5-9, you know, So
it's like there's hope for
people that are my height.
Yeah, you know, Yeah, exactly.
You know, I'm saying, so, you
know.
And he wanted the football.
Yeah.
So he's like he was, he was
yelling for you call this on
Bebe because I guess he's the
second or third or whatever.
They all the same name and he's
old.
Bebe, Bebe, give me the ball.
So then a guy goes out, picks up
the ball and runs it over.
I hand it to his dad.
His dad's going, yeah.
And like, everybody's going
nuts.
That travel.
Yeah, that's cool.
Yeah, that was a cool feeling.
You get touched.
The ball I.
Touched it.
I touched it.
Oh, you.
Just stopped and taking a
picture and then handed.
It.
Yeah, Hold on one second.
Just relax.
Tell your kid to come back.
Calm down, man.
You'll get the ball.
I'll get to get it for you.
I want to get.
In the photo with me.
Come on.
Take a picture of me in the
ball.
Handy.
You the ball.
All right, thanks.
Back down photo on my lap.
How then you would made the
news?
How do you piss off an entire
crowd of Pittsburgh Steeler fans
you know?
Like what?
What the guy handed it?
Gave it to me.
There was a lot of Steeler fans
there, especially with bro, it
being a preseason.
Game Well, they haven't been.
In Tampa, I think in like 20
years or something especially,
yeah, no, they, you know, they
should have got a chance to plan
when they had Tom Brady.
I think they did in Pittsburgh.
Yep.
It was in Pittsburgh, yeah.
Yeah, because Brady has beat
everything.
But I will say I was at the game
last year when they had Brady
when the Bucks were down.
Then it might have been down 10
or something and people were
leaving.
I was like, now I'm not leaving.
That's Tom Brady.
There's one guy 2.
Minutes on the clock, bro.
We got a chance.
That was the Saints game.
That wasn't.
It looks like Kamara like just
fell out. 20 seconds on the
clock, got the ball back and he
drove it down.
Yeah, and I am not gonna lie, I
got fired up then because I was
able to witness to go.
Give me goosebumps.
One of those last things, man.
You should have seen me talking,
those two fat people behind me.
At that point.
I was like, what?
What do you say now?
I was fucking ready to go.
I'm like, let's go.
Yeah.
That that fire you up?
Yeah.
That was a good game.
Now that game, I had club seats.
Yeah, yeah, that game.
That wasn't an I Connect.
No, no, no, no.
That was one of my buddies that
had season tickets there.
Yeah, yeah, that was that.
This is my first time ever in my
life in the nose.
Bleak.
How he's a, you know, he's a man
of, you know, he knows
everybody.
Yeah, he's got the connect.
I text, I said.
Man, I gotta just so you know,
bro, I'm so high up.
I got toilet paper I had just in
case, my nose.
So now he understands that he
can't put you that high again.
And he says he said I can't with
you.
He was laughing.
I was like man, I thought you
was going to be on the field.
I thought I was going to be like
right behind you, right?
So first row or something.
I'm like we we we.
The complete opposite of the
front row man.
I was looking at the park.
I'll even take the cannon seats.
Lights.
So wait, now where did you get
to park?
We parked at you didn't get a
hookup where you could pull
right up to the stadium or
something.
No, by the time we got there, it
was already after the mid, yeah,
first quarter or something.
Yeah, but I didn't know there
was like, you know.
You gotta be early.
Gotcha.
So you So you had to walk a
little bit?
Yeah, I think I got my steps in
bro, you got your steps.
Yeah, look, cardio.
There's a There's a little cubby
hole.
Then I'll tell you about where
you can I.
Got as good as planned out.
Well, you should.
I got as much.
As you go there, yeah, yeah, I
know.
I found the spot.
I'm like this is this is the
spot.
This is what, yeah.
So so with this perfect round
out, is this your new favorite
cigar of your line?
I'll be honest with you, this is
my first Dominican line and I'm
really seeing the, the response
from the the, the, the different
blends.
And so it's it's doing a really
good job.
I'm really excited.
So I'm going to be adding some
more things from the Dominican
line.
So who'd you work with it for
this?
This one I worked with MJ Fleus,
my buddy Chris, been knowing him
for so long and super proud of
what he's been able to do and
makes a he makes a ton of
cigars, ton of cigars.
And you know, the cool thing is
when you work with people that
you actually know.
They want to give you the best
tobacco, you know, and that's
what happened with me, with my,
with my first line, You know,
there's different levels of
tobacco.
And I kind of say, listen, man,
for me to do this, I'm going to
need, you know, this top tier
and he's like, okay, let's make
it happen.
I was like okay, cool.
You know, a lot of times, a lot
of times people go and they try
to get with larger brands that
are really not really.
Making the cigar, they're just
their name is on it because some
of the brand names you mentioned
earlier, they don't own a
factory, right?
Right.
They get theirs made by some
other people like it's
placencia, you know what I mean?
Right.
Right.
But they just add some premium
to it.
So, but from these guys, those
personal relationship?
When they come to, you're like,
man, bro, I'm telling you, man,
we got to do something together,
man.
You know?
And then I'm like, all right,
well, let me check out some
things.
And once they start to show me,
I'm like, all right, well, let's
do this.
And then, you know, I take a
while because I do take a while
and and then I get it out to
certain guys and then like you,
you was able to try it before
everybody else too.
And I literally look for the
feedback from guys.
I look at it from like this if I
give 100 sticks out.
And of each one and I'm getting
feedback like 85 to 88 are
saying it's fire and then I'm
getting let's say like 92 to 94
saying it was really good.
I think we got action because if
I can do that with 100 then that
means 1000 people.
That's the same ratio, which
means 10,000 would be the same
ratio.
All I have to do is get that
stick in their hand.
And so it's kind of like that's
kind of research.
I really look at people that
really respect who I know really
smoke and also not want to, you
know, tell me what they think I
want to hear, right?
Tell me the truth, not
surrounded by yes people.
Yeah, I don't like that at all,
you know, So I always say smoke
the first round and then smoke
the back line.
I mean the front line in the
back 9.
And even if you smoke the back
nine, first follow it with the
front nine, right?
And then tell me what you think.
Because right now both of them
are on your palate.
So now you're able to say, man,
you know what?
Well, this one, this one, I
liked it better because I want
to know which one you like
better.
I never, I don't think I've ever
seen a me personally a paired
cigar like that.
No.
This is the first time you've
seen, I mean like I've seen them
in like coffins or something
like that.
You know, it's just two together
like LFD did a Diadema duo or
some shit, some of the things
like that.
But see, I like the way I did it
and I understand I'm gonna do it
again with something else,
right?
But I want but I'll do.
This many boxes is going to come
in the pair, but for the
retailers, I will also do the
the majority of the masses.
Everybody's not as cool as Mike,
right?
That's true.
You know, everybody's not as
cool as Mike.
What Mike just said makes a lot
of damn sense, you know, and
especially if people got you
know or you know 1520 and 30
boxes, it's not hard to take
open it up and then take
yourselves rubs and split them.
That's cool.
But at the same time.
It does make it easier for us to
also say, hey, it's holiday
season and if for you guys
looking to grab gifts and stuff
like that, we also have already.
Already mixed.
Already mixed for you, or you
can just buy two boxes however
that.
Way I like how it goes every
other two.
Yeah, I told them I wanted every
other so they can just grab them
two by two like that.
It's not like one side of the
box or the other side of the.
That was the the plan.
Well, thank you so much for
coming on, Sir.
Appreciate you.
So please check out Howard G
Cigars.
This is now officially shipping,
right.
So we are, we are in business
and they're open.
Check out the perfect round
available where at you know.
Your local retailer?
Yeah, check it is.
It's available at
cigarhustler.com.
Yeah, Cigar hustler.com.
God damn it.
So, all right, thanks, man.
That's good.
Always, guys.
I'm good.
I'm good, all right.
Bye.
OK.
Bye.
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Show Notes
Description: On this week's episode of the Cigar Hustlers Podcast, we're thrilled to deliver some fantastic news from the premium cigar industry. In a groundbreaking turn of events, the premium cigar industry emerges victorious as it beats FDA regulations in court, leading to the vacating of stringent restrictions that have loomed over the industry for far too long. This monumental win sets the stage for a new era of innovation and growth, and we're here to unpack all the details.
But that's not all – get ready for some exciting business moves in the world of cigars. Micallef Cigars takes a bold step by acquiring All Saints Sales, making waves and expanding their presence in the market. Additionally, the talented Micky Pegg makes his mark by joining forces with Micallef, setting the stage for a partnership that promises exciting new developments.
And wait, there's more! We're honored to have a special guest on air – none other than Howard G from Howard G Cigars. A true visionary in the industry, Howard G joins us to share insights about his latest creation, "Howard G The Perfect Round." Inspired by the spirit of sportsmanship, this cigar brings a unique twist to the table. Featuring an 18-count box, each containing a combination of The Front Nine and The Back Nine cigars, it's a delightful journey through two different Dominican puros. The Front Nine boasts a Connecticut shade wrapper, while The Back Nine blends in a sun-grown habano wrapper, both bound together with Dominican excellence.
Cigar Details:
Wrapper: Dominican Republic (Connecticut Shade) / Dominican Republic (Sun-Grown Habano)
Binder: Dominican Republic
Filler: Dominican Republic
The Front Nine/The Back Nine (7 x 52) — $16 (Box of 18, $288)
Production: Regular Production
Release Date: August 2023
Join us as we explore the intricacies of these premium cigars, the industry's legal triumph, and the exciting new partnerships shaping the cigar landscape. So grab your favorite cigar, settle in, and tune in to another informative and entertaining episode of the Cigar Hustlers Podcast!