December 27, 2023· 51m

Cigar Hustlers Podcast Episode 313

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Welcome to the Cigar Hustlers

Podcast, Episode 313, The number

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Know.

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Excellent job, man, that whole

thing.

Hold on.

Let's do that one more time.

Close up.

I'm not doing it again.

Look over there, patient zero.

You're the only one that's 100.

Percent Yeah.

This motherfucker, Yeah.

You blew up the entire place.

That's like emergency.

You know what?

What's really kind of funny as

he's the culprit every fucking

time.

I was thinking that.

COVID.

Fucking him, I think You guys.

You know why?

Said that now.

Do you know why?

Why?

Because he goes out to these

fucking ridiculous dive bars all

the fucking time.

Dive bars.

I go to Jimmy's.

OK.

That's not that.

Dude, you were at a bar where

there was a pool and you jumped

in the fucking pool and swam.

Around This was like four or

five months ago, one time.

You go to bars all the time.

Yeah, you go to motherfucker.

Where did you go on fuck after

the customer appreciation night?

Did you go out to bars?

I went to.

Answer the question.

Jimmy's and then?

Did you go out?

Jimmy's in where?

Jimmy's in West End.

Did did you go out to bars?

West End.

It's not really.

Dive.

Exactly.

Thank you.

Yeah.

By the.

End of the night, that play's

pretty nasty.

Dave, it's just Bulldogs.

Dude, you hit all the fucking

dive bars in fucking Central

Florida.

Wow.

And that's why he's always got

some shit.

Right.

Why are you so hateful today?

And then you give it to us

'cause you about killed the

entire place.

Yeah, because, yeah, because you

decided to fucking blow

everybody up.

Britney's sick shit's.

Fucking Britney's sick, not hell

yeah.

What happened to all the other

people in the world?

You think I got them?

It's just you that fucking blows

us all up.

You blew us up.

You always get it first.

Yeah, you guys have never

interacted with anybody else

that was sick.

No.

No, no, we haven't.

This is a close circle of

friends here, yeah.

It's just you.

Anyways, I don't hang out with

anybody that's not here.

Yeah, you're the guy you need to

stop going to the bars.

Yeah, I'm going to the bars.

Go home.

You know, yeah.

Go home and take emergency and

got baths.

Read a book or.

Something wipe yourself down

with Purell.

Watch Housewives like the rest

of us.

I'm glad that we have nothing to

talk about other than getting on

me watch.

Housewives like the rest of us,

we got plenty to talk about.

We're going to.

Start there.

We're going to start there.

So you have a good Christmas.

I had a fantastic.

Christmas Did you have a nice

birthday party?

So you had a great birthday

party.

I missed everything because Phil

got me sick.

I know.

I'm sorry, I'm.

Sorry I missed everything.

Yeah, Santa Claus was sick as

well.

Oh yeah, sorry, I thought about

that.

So Santa Claus, Santa Claus.

He rang the doorbell and just

dropped some shit off.

Yeah, on Christmas Eve.

That's nice.

Yeah.

Well, you know, we had my boy

Tyrone shot the ghost on me.

He didn't show up on Christmas

Eve.

I don't know what that means.

He didn't show up.

Oh, he didn't show up.

He's not answering my calls.

Oh yeah, it's not my shit list.

So who's Tyrone?

Levi's dad.

Karen then Was he there for the

party?

He was there for the birthday

party and we invited him for

Christmas music.

All right, I'll see you guys

tomorrow.

Called him that day and then he

didn't show.

Oh, is are we concerned or is

this something that happens?

No, he's he's.

Legit in my in my customer in my

not my customer in my contact

list, right.

I have a the squirt gun and the

ghost next to his name.

Shots the ghost.

Yeah, because he shoots the

ghost all the time.

It doesn't show up.

I was sure it's why you

mentioned that, like, you know,

yeah, something happened or

something.

No, no, he just didn't show.

I talked to him in the mid

afternoon.

He's like, oh, I'm still buying

the Christmas shop.

I'm.

Running.

Oh, it's about 3:00.

Yeah, around 2/3.

Yeah, Yeah, mid afternoon, yeah,

mid afternoon exactly.

Everybody knows what time that.

Is you got to put, you got to

paint a bigger picture so.

So I was asked the vague

reference.

I was asked what time I was

going to be here and I said mid

afternoon today.

Because we've been trying to

schedule this.

It's obviously Wednesday, yeah.

It's been a it's been a rough,

been a rough go with things.

And Phil, in his infinite

wisdom, says So what time is

that?

So what time is mid afternoon

like noon?

That was at like 11.

Yeah.

So then you should be there now

because it's mid afternoon?

Mike Mikey's there now.

Like, no, not no, he's not.

We're not there.

So then we had to explain what

mid afternoon.

Was yeah.

Something going on with Phil?

Now he's all hurt over there,

apparently.

When he when he when he became

patient zero, he decided that he

lost his brain cells, I guess.

Time means nothing to the man

who was killing everyone.

Time means nothing to the man

who's killing everyone.

He's a angry Christmas tree.

Because now Jet's down with it.

And I hear that guy.

Yeah, Yeah.

Steve was like he wasn't here

last week.

And Phil's is killing everybody,

right?

It's a hot mess.

So yeah, Christmas went great.

Brittany worked her ass off.

The birthday party was the day

before.

Right, so he had a three day

event.

It was a trifecta.

I think the birthday party was

the best of the three.

Yeah, yeah, good.

It was good it.

Looked nice from the photos.

I will tell you what.

Those The food was delicious.

It's all we've been eating for

the last four days.

Oh, you got the food.

Yeah, that's right.

Good.

Yeah, I.

I found the Donuts last night.

Patient zero.

I keep finding new boxes.

Oh, good.

You know, the box with Donuts

and cookies?

Like, oh, that's the best one.

Nice Patient zero What?

Patient zero dropped it off.

I thought Chet dropped it.

Off on the camera it was Chet

your car.

But Chet put it on the No it

wasn't.

Yes, it was.

It was Tia.

Oh, I'm going to tell you, said

that.

Look, I was feverish that day.

Yeah, he's very, very blurry.

Laying on the dying in the bed,

couldn't breathe, couldn't see

having diarrhea, chills.

It was terrible.

Christmas Day.

We just, I, I sat on the couch,

we opened presents, I sat on the

couch.

She sat in her recliners.

Because we're trying to keep a

distance.

We just watch Christmas movies

all day.

That sounds fantastic.

You know, that's what everybody

says.

And I told her.

Then they go, you know, I know

the kids haven't called because

their kids didn't even call her

bastards, but because this isn't

all bad.

Yeah, nice low key day.

Fucking kids didn't call.

No, her kids didn't call, so.

Shitty.

Yeah, so she's having a bad day

today, she vented.

They didn't.

The fucking call.

No.

The fuck is wrong.

Can I call?

Can I reach out to Tanner?

No.

Why not?

No.

No, because I'll get in trouble,

just like she doesn't listen to

the show.

How do you expect things to

change?

And no one's going to call us

out, call people out on their.

Bullshit.

She has already called both of

them out and.

What'd they say?

I don't want to get into it.

Then why would you mention it?

Be like, hey, because I because

I want them to maybe smile, say

something to them without being

specific.

I don't know.

We're just, we're just talking.

Might call them.

Hey, you remember when you guys

came out of that vajayjay?

Yeah, you're supposed to call

that person on holidays.

I mean, I don't even like my

mother, right?

And I would still.

Yeah, you still call.

You can do I make a phone call.

Hey, just a Merry Christmas.

Right.

Do you call your mom on

Christmas?

No, she's here and she's usually

making my life miserable.

I called my mother.

She was told to stay away.

Stay away.

You'll kill me if you come over

here.

Don't come.

Over J5J5 alive.

You'll kill me if come over.

Here, Jake called from the

Firehouse.

He was on duty.

Oh, so your kids called.

My kids called Jake always calls

birthdays and holidays, whether

he's working or not.

And that's nice.

Yeah, that's why he's a Golden

Boy.

Well, we haven't seen him in

probably a year.

What happened?

He's busy.

That's what I tell later.

He's got his life of his own.

That happens, man.

He's teaching classes.

He's fighting fires.

Yeah, this is life.

Banging us stewardess.

He's banging us stewardess,

right?

It's.

A lot worse sometimes.

He's got to bang a stewardess,

you know, when you're young and.

Get a lot of free free flights

and stuff.

Yeah, you know how old is Jake?

26, 27 He's got a little older.

He owns an own.

He owns a car.

He owns a condominium.

There you go.

Right what?

Life is good.

Got a decent job?

Makes.

Way more.

Too much money.

Way too much money.

Yeah, that's good.

That's good.

You got to turn yours over.

So yeah, so yeah, Christmas was

good.

Yeah.

We survived Christmas.

Didn't really feel like

Christmas this year.

Did you know it didn't in our

house either?

We just figure it's because of

the illness.

I'm threatening to elope.

Like I don't know what that

means.

That means it, right?

Like I want to fucking.

I want to go.

Like I want to go.

Somewhere to do that for years.

Yeah, I'm starting.

I started laying the groundwork

for this.

I'm getting the fuck out of

Dodge for.

Christmas, yeah.

Yeah, I'm leaving.

Where?

Do you want to go?

Taking the kids log cabin

somewhere.

Oh, wilderness.

I don't give a fuck if Britney

says hey.

I mean, Britney's a beach

person.

Britney says.

Hey, I want a vacation.

Let's go do Christmas on the

beach.

Done.

Right it.

Could be cold though.

Who cares?

Yeah, but I mean winter time.

How?

Cold.

Is it in the Bahamas?

Is it that fucking cold?

Don't think it's I had a

terrible storm go through there

at Christmas.

Oh yeah, can you see all the

cruise ships or?

No, I didn't see it.

Was terrible.

How cold is it in Mexico?

I don't.

Know I don't go to Mexico.

Get that cold.

Dangerous.

Thing No.

You remember what happened to

Greg.

You may not come back.

What happened to Greg?

He lost his passport.

He was in his back pocket.

Yeah, but one of those cartels

put it in his back.

Pocket.

That's right, after they made

copies, shoved it back in his

pocket.

And then he's never going to

know with his back.

There's now Greg L Stepkevich in

Mexico.

Gregorio L Stepkevich See Bueno

I'll go.

Wherever I'll go for whatever,

wherever.

What about Buffalo?

9 Going to Buffy, not going to

Buffalo.

Like, I want to get in a car.

I want to drive somewhere.

That's my that's my ideal

scenario.

Georgia.

You know, Tennessee?

Where?

He dresses up with the rubber

boobies.

Whatever, rubber boobies.

Follow me into the barn.

No, no, I've seen the.

Video Come on, touch him.

Come on, touch him.

No, you want to touch him.

They're so realistic and

lifelike all.

Right.

So you want to review this?

We're.

Going to do the our traditional

aficionado top 25, I'm I'll tell

you.

What I'm going to do too, Phil,

since you asked for this before,

yes, I'm going to put some

thought into what I think is the

top 10 cigars that came out.

I'm going to include my shit

too.

That's fine.

I mean, it is what it is.

But I'll go through it.

I'll go through it and I'll

review and I'll tell you what I

think is actually worth the shit

this year.

And then on the Patreon, I'm

going to tell you the ones that

I think are complete fucking

misses.

Yes, the bullshit, all right.

OK all.

Right.

So, Phil, are you familiar with

how we do this?

No, I'm not.

Tell me.

He's never done this with us

and.

I guess he hasn't.

Well.

Were you not on last Christmas?

Well, we did one last year, but

it was different, he said.

Did.

We have a celebrity last year.

No, I.

Don't know?

Nope.

I remember.

It was literally like it was a

quick read off of this list and

that was it.

And we're in and and because it

was all BS.

OK, we read the name.

We'd say the number #25, for

example, is the West Tampa Red

Robusto, if you had it, if you

liked it, and if you think it

deserves to be on the list.

OK.

What are you smoking over there,

Grunty Grunter?

We'll start in Connecticut every

day, baby.

No, I thought maybe it was

something.

Else delicious.

No, I heard something else has

maybe landed somewhere.

Yeah, it has.

I started smoking that the San

Andreas I.

Don't know what it is.

Yeah, I started.

Smoking it, I had to wait till

half wheel puts out the press

release that I write for you to

give them.

That's right.

All right, #25 W Tampa Red

Robusto.

Yes.

So here's what we're doing.

We're looking over the

aficionados Top 25 cigars and

we're going to tell you how we

feel about it.

See that?

I just see that.

Yes.

Are you sure?

Yes.

While you were over there

grunting and moaning and smoking

a cigar.

It's OK.

Delicious.

All right.

So for the third time.

We're going to read on the top

25 mission.

Phil, have you had the West

Tampa Red Robusto?

Is that black or white label?

It's the red.

One the red.

One Nope.

Jesus Christ.

Solid performance out of the

gate here.

Nope, have not had it.

Don't know if I recommend it.

The red robuto, is it black or

white?

No, it's.

It's red.

Yeah, it's red.

You see what happened?

You sheltered me to Cigar

Hustler here.

No, you're not sheltered and you

promise you've gone everywhere.

Else I've had, I've had, yeah,

probably.

You keep going everywhere else

and getting dirty.

Stuff and your brain cells are

gone.

You bring back here and kill us

all.

All right, I've had it.

What?

Do you think?

I didn't like it.

You had it.

I think I've had it.

You had?

It you.

Had the red one here.

No, no, it's only black or

white.

That's why I said.

I had the red one somewhere.

Yeah, maybe a Rep give it to me.

No 'cause he's got their own

reps.

This is so complicated.

Is that who is West Tampa?

Isn't that Ossinger?

No, no.

Oh, it's a Pretty Ricky,

formerly Cao.

Ricky Rodriguez.

Yeah, So he actually makes a lot

of stuff out of the.

I had it somewhere.

I'm going to call it the

Phosphoro Factory moving

forward.

Phosphoro Factory.

Nice shout out to my boy Jeff.

Jeff bought it.

Oh.

Did he buy a factory?

Yeah, he's a He's a yeah, he

owns it.

Yeah, it's his factory.

It's Jeff's factory.

Make sure is it?

Is it like block or is it wood?

Could it catch fire?

Yeah, it's like a block wood.

It's a wood block.

Nice.

I don't know.

Hopefully it.

Doesn't mud huts.

Yeah, a lot of mud huts.

So place for the hookers.

I haven't had this cigar, I

could tell you that.

What's what's fascinating about

this factory is, I think, that

they actually have good tobacco.

Right.

Now with that being said, I

haven't smoked a W Tampa that I.

It's kind of hard to cover your

mouth and hold the button and

turn away from the the other

person so you don't cough at

them.

I already got the same shit that

you got, buddy.

You never know, I might have had

a different variant I.

Don't think so.

Did you have the diarrhea?

I did have the diarrhea.

The sweats, the chills.

Yep, Yep.

Terrible body aches.

All right.

So they have good tobacco.

Yeah.

So they have good tobacco, but

if for whatever reason W Tampa

doesn't make good cigars, I

don't think that they're good.

Don't think they know how to put

them together.

So yeah, so the blending is bad.

Maybe Ricky's doing all the

blending I just.

Think that, you know, Look,

here's what happens in this

industry more often than not, as

people don't give a fuck.

They're like, Oh yeah, yeah,

let's do that.

Just want a cigar.

I don't know if that was a

scenario here, but I could tell

you.

Well, the red one was the third

one.

The black and white came out

first.

I thought the the black one was

good.

Don't remember liking any of

them.

All right.

So there you go.

All right.

So it probably doesn't belong a

lot.

Not on the list.

Redheaded stepchild, goodbye.

All right, #24 the Padilla Miami

Padilla B.

And is it 8:00 and 11:00 or B

and 11 Churchill?

I've never had it.

Is that the the brand with the

big lion head?

Yep.

I mean, I have had it then.

I don't remember it though.

Nope, never had.

Yeah, I don't hear much about

this brand at.

All I mean, aren't he such a

nice guy, too?

Yeah, he really is.

And he makes some good cigars.

I don't know, you know, he just

kind of fell off.

It's kind of weird.

Is this like a big box cigar?

Like only.

Like, yeah, it's probably more

mainstream with your with your

catalog brands and shit, right?

So I bet you it's a good cigar.

It probably is.

We'll say it's OK.

Yeah, even though I haven't had

it.

I bet you it's a good suit.

Alright, I'll give him that one.

#23 Rafael Gonzalez Corona de

Lonsdale.

No fucking idea what this?

Is I don't know who did Rafael

Gonzalez.

I don't like Corona.

It's the red one.

Is is this your new Stanley?

Did you get a Stanley?

Oh.

Yes, I got a Stanley Cup for

Christmas.

Look at you.

Yes, I'm.

I'm with the big boys now.

I got a big boy cup.

Welcome.

Thank you.

So fucking heavy.

Welcome.

And.

My boxing thing got delivered

today, but I can't put it up

here.

Yeah, there you go.

See.

Look, I saw problems.

Michael, thank you very much

because it's going out in the

garage and it'll be in the way

for the air conditioning.

I saw.

I saw you got your wife a

Jabberwocky mask.

Oh no, it's a red light there.

Yeah, that's nice.

She likes it, yeah.

Yeah, because she can watch TV

in the way she's doing it.

That's interesting.

I think I need to get one of

those.

It wasn't all.

I don't remember being terribly

expensive. 80 bucks, something

like that.

Yeah, it's rechargeable.

So I mean, there's not even a

cord.

Oh really?

So you can walk around the house

with it.

Oh.

This sounds amazing.

Yeah.

Think I'm going to get one of.

Those you just have to make sure

you clean it because of the, you

know, develop a well, I guess

you don't have makeup residue,

yeah.

Only for a show.

Right.

Only for the show, only for the

show.

Oh, we can all wear them on the

show.

No.

He's not like he gets makeup.

Oh yeah, just makeup.

Yeah, all right, so no idea what

the fuck?

Rafael Gonzalez is no idea who

he is and how he even got on the

list.

All right, 22 Ozinger family

cigars.

Bosphorus B52.

Oh, there you go.

That's from.

The Ozinger family had it.

Yeah, you're a fan of this one.

He's.

So excited.

I love it.

Yeah, Palmer.

Well, I've obviously had it too.

I don't.

I don't remember being bad, so I

guess it's far enough down the

list.

Seems like there should be

things that are better though.

I mean, we're we're in the top

25, we're still in the 20

through 5 list here.

We're not in like, you know, #1

or whatever.

Well, right.

Yeah, #22 so I mean.

I'm sure they'll be worse stuff

further along.

Yeah, I think he's a good cigar.

Yeah, yeah, I feel like this is

fine on the list.

Yeah.

OK, it makes sense to me to some

degree.

I It's nice that we actually got

to meet the guy bullshit with

him a little bit.

Oh yeah.

The smoke.

He came to the shop.

Oh, he's here.

Oh, was he?

Yeah.

Oh, you can with Miguel.

Oh, I wasn't here that day.

It was a little bit later in the

day, yeah.

Yeah, so he's all right.

I think he's making a decent

cigar.

Yeah.

All right, #21 oh. #21 La

Florida Dominicana Double Lajero

Lanzaro.

I have had it.

You have.

Yes, that's a good cigar.

It was good.

You've had it, Michael.

Yes.

And what'd you think?

I thought it was a good cigar.

You thought it was good.

Yeah, they're all strong, but I

like them.

Yeah, they are strong.

Full body.

It's the same, almost the same

dudes every year.

There are a couple of new ones

in here.

On this page, yeah, I mean, I

got no problem with LFD making

the list.

They make good cigars.

They have good tobacco.

Yeah, they should be somewhere

on here.

Yeah.

OK.

So, yeah.

So yes.

Yes.

All right, #20 olmec, Claro

Corona Gorda.

I think this one should be a

little higher.

I don't know.

Maybe Nick's got another.

Maybe Nick got two on the list.

Maybe.

Because this is a really good

cigar.

It got two on the list.

I said maybe, I think you got

another one.

Probably anything lately that's

just come out is too new to make

the list.

Well, I think you could

definitely place #7, but we'll

get to that one.

No, he's just got the one.

Yeah, yeah.

Look, man, I'm going to tell you

right now, this was a big hit

the the.

It was.

It was a good Everybody seems to

like it.

The Calaro, Corona, Gorda, I

think that that's the best size

and I do like it in the Calaro

over the Maduro, so it's kind of

weird to see them get this one

right, to be honest, because it

belongs on there.

Right.

It does belong, and I think it

should be a little higher.

At when we get to number, let's

say 13, we'll let him do Phil's

fun facts.

OK.

We have one today, OK. #19 #19

The Foreign Affair by Luciano's

Cigars.

How many hand jobs did it take

to get on?

Yeah, I really.

He promised checks to.

Yeah, I will take ad space.

I will take ad space.

You put me on a magazine.

I will pay that.

Dollar you bill me, right, you

bill me.

Descended, descended, Descended.

Again.

Don't Bill to Mike the Greek.

Oh my goodness, I have not had

the foreign affair of.

Paying tabs.

I have not had the foreign

affair, but I'm.

Not had the foreign affair.

But I'm sure it tastes like

somebody else's tobacco.

It tastes probably porn.

Made at my factory I just got to

take.

This is mine.

It used to be, Jeff mutates.

I heard.

It was Jeff's now I possess.

Now which is mine?

Jeff?

Bring me whore.

Well. #18 tetua Hey Miami Havana

Cazandores.

Cazadores.

No, it's a Casa.

Casa.

Do.

Do rez.

Rez Casa.

Do rez.

Cazadores, it is not how you say

it.

That's how you say it.

Oh, it's not.

Yeah.

It's not to tell you.

What me to say, Tetuaji?

Tetuaji, I know I miss those

days.

Me and my me, Amy.

Havana Casa do re.

Casa dores casadu re SI.

Come on, I'm.

Not sure if I had.

This one?

No, just move on.

I haven't had this one, I'm sure

it's qualifies, so I make some

decent stuff.

I've been smoking a couple

lately.

They're pretty.

They're pretty decent.

Yeah.

Alright #17 money Christo 1935

anniversary, you've.

Been smoking them because down

to her, it's all about fucking.

Yeah, you know, Thumb in the

asses, fucking Pete Johnson.

Thank goodness.

They just, you know, they have a

They would collect his semen and

put it in a jar.

Let's be honest, I think this is

Peach.

Steven I think this is Peach.

I think they have a jar of it

there.

It's very rare.

This is very rare.

I keep it up here on the shelf.

Just send them a jar of

mayonnaise.

Pete Semen.

You have to put this on your

dish, Carrie.

It's very rare.

Can't believe what cigars?

You know, how did they get this?

You know they gave it out with

the Monster series.

He's the Invisible Man.

Cherry Cherry.

This Monte Cristo one.

I have not had it.

Yeah, no, no.

Taste like all the other ones,

I'm sure, I'm sure.

It's complete shit.

Yeah, complete.

Shit.

It's like piece of shit.

You know it's a.

It's a Monte Cristo with a

darker band, the.

Dia Monte Grande.

You know the white bands

everybody's figured out.

Don't taste good.

Put a dark one on.

See if anyone knows.

Hey, let's mix it up.

So let's now the question is.

Let's throw a diamond on there.

Should it be on the list because

of the name?

No, no, but that's the only

reason it's on the list.

No.

Is that the real question?

Who smoked this a fishy or not?

There's like three people that

smoked it and they said, hey,

let's put on 17, I love like.

Feels like a #17.

I love how all this shit makes

no sense whatsoever.

Like well.

Here's what we do is we unbanned

all of them.

Like, oh, really?

Yeah.

That way we can't identify them.

So when the Andalusian bull

became number one, you realize

that that wasn't that cigar.

Because that's one of the only

fucking Solomons in the.

You know what I mean?

Like, come on, You had no idea.

You had no idea That was LFD.

One of these.

Yeah.

And then And then the cigars.

And then, hey, listen, the

cigars, you know, we picked them

up from local shops in New York.

You're like, really?

The Cubans?

You pick them up in the local

shops in New York?

Yes.

This makes so much sense.

Your rules and guidelines make

fucking.

Total sense.

It's delicious.

Every year I love that everybody

gets gassed up about this shit.

I don't, you know, the only time

I ever acknowledge this is this

fucking podcast that we do.

So then we just move on.

Just slam it and move.

All right, 17, No Bueno 16. 16's

a Cuban No Bueno Cohiba no Bueno

Cohiba.

Pyramid Extra?

Oh, it's a pyramid.

No, no, it's, it's Cohiba.

Cohiba Parameda Extra.

Yeah.

Perfect.

Thank you.

They pick these up in the local

stores and yeah.

They get this.

This is also found in a New York

retailer.

A Jamaican gentleman on the

corner.

They come in the glass box.

Yeah, they got a bobsled team

now.

Oh.

All right, #15 Ashton, Virgin

sun grown illusion.

Never had it.

It always the the VSG always

makes the list.

Somehow, there's always an

Ashton.

Always.

That one.

I don't know.

They only have the one band.

No, I don't know.

This is like the one cigar that

was a big deal 30 years ago, and

then it still just kind of sits

around lingering.

I mean, I can almost tell you,

when Ashton blew up and turned

to shit and that was when they

fired Rex and they did this

whole revamp of people.

The company's never been the

same, Never been the same.

Who is the little guy that you

should show up here?

Who was the Rep shirt tie?

Little Hispanic gentleman José

José Ortega?

Yeah, I liked him.

His his brother is the VP of

Sales for my father.

Oh, his name is also Jose

Ortega.

Oh, nice.

Yeah, his dad laid them all.

Jose Ortega.

There's like 11 of them.

No, 11 Jose Otega.

Hey, Jose.

Hey.

Two and Jose.

We will call this one Jose.

Like the boxer.

Yeah, 75 Jose's.

Right.

Nice.

All right, what is this next

one?

The Long live the Queen Ace of

hearts.

I don't know what.

The fuck is this?

That's the Gotta be a Caldwell,

right?

I think so, You would think with

the Long live the Queen.

I don't.

Never had it.

But why don't they say Caldwell

on the thing?

Yeah, I.

Don't know.

Well, because it took the band

off and they didn't know

there's.

Yeah, they had no idea.

They.

Had no idea they.

Had no idea.

What is this one?

I don't know.

They don't know who it's from.

Long.

Live the Queen.

I've never had it, but if it's

I've.

Never heard of it before.

If it's Caldwell.

It's Caldwell.

Does he?

It's.

Does he have a line of the Queen

cigars too now?

I would suppose so.

Either Long live the Jester or

Long live the Prince or.

Long live the portalit.

Long live everyone, everybody

live long.

We're all going to live long.

All right #13 my father la beju

1922 It's like 100 Anos le

corona Especial.

I have had it.

You had the LE Corona Limited

Edition.

Limited Edition 101. 100 You had

the La Bayou.

You had the La Bayou.

No, I had.

Carlos gave me one of these.

Oh yeah.

Yes, I had smoked one.

OK, I thought it was OK.

I'm not a real big my father

fan.

It wasn't something like.

I just wanted to know.

I will go on by.

What you just said contradicts

what you said before over here.

I said it was all right.

When you were talking about this

Tatwai thing?

What's that?

That's Cigar Tatwai.

Yeah, in Miami, you said.

Oh, it's good.

I like a lot of Tatwai.

No.

No, no, I said.

I've been smoking more Tatwai.

Because you liked Tatwai.

No, I said that it was not bad.

So you don't like Tatwai, but

you've been smoking more of it?

I have been trying more of it.

You've been smoking Tatwai some,

but you don't like it.

No, I mean kind of some of it.

So you do like it.

There was a long one that I

liked.

It was like I.

Have no idea what's going.

On Do you like this as do I?

Or do you not like this as do I

make up your mind?

Kind of.

OK.

So you kind of like, yeah.

Like 5050?

Well, it's made in the same

factory as a my father.

Oh, I wonder where this was

going.

Yeah.

Well, it doesn't taste the same.

Maybe it's a different blender?

Different blender.

It's a totally different, yeah,

it's the the ninja blender.

And he had a different Chekawara

or whatever.

That knife thing.

What's your Betta, Jabetta?

I was close with the Chekawari.

Should have let it go.

Yeah, everybody got named

Chakawari over there, getting

out that Tabaki.

Oh, my mother's home safe, just

in case.

Oh, thank God.

I'm so worried.

All right, now we can breathe.

Got to see her for four hours

she was up here.

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Trinidad and Esperitu series #1

balacoso Why does one of these

always show up on the list?

This is this is shit.

I never.

I don't think I smoked to

Trinidad.

Everybody has smoked one

somewhere and they're all

terrible.

Do they give these out the the

great smoke?

Trinidad's I.

Don't know, maybe I.

Don't know.

Who would?

Probably.

Who would be there from the

company?

Altidis, I think that was.

I don't think Altidis is there.

I'm sure that I.

Don't know.

They're kind of big.

They give out something else.

They give out Trinidad.

'S all right, but they're no

good.

No Bueno, no.

Bueno Want Want.

Romeo E Juliet for the 11 Vieta

Linea Well, this got to go.

To Publix and buy all the

cigars.

On the Legos.

I've never had it, but I'm sure.

It's not good.

It's got to be Cuban.

It's got to be the whole thing's

Spanish.

Yeah, got to be a Cuban.

I'm sure it's terrible.

We've.

Never had this one.

No #10 El pupo El pupo anacosto

Grande.

No idea what the El Pupo is.

I mean, where'd that come from?

Where'd these guys buy this

girl?

Is that a?

El Pupo is that an octopus on

the band?

It is Never heard of that before

either.

It's one of those cigars where

the person's out front putting

the bands on.

I guess, yeah.

Like El Hefe, I didn't.

Say the band.

That El Hefe cigar they're

putting their own band on.

El pupo.

All right #9.

San Andreas.

Some people have bought El Pupil

oh, have they?

It's on B and BS, it's on

Atlantic.

Oh, it's.

Very popular.

We should carry it.

Said Oakland Tobacconist.

It is the number 10 cigar.

It is the number 10 cigar. 2023

Michael.

It's the El pupil.

We could we could run with it

and make it the number one.

Mardo has it.

You could buy all the next 10

and we can have a top 10.

Dude, I look at a Listen, if

you're going to use an octopus

as a logo and it doesn't say

Hydra on it, I'm not interested

all.

Right.

Good point.

It's got to be Hydra.

How much were they?

Just curious.

I just looking at pictures. 699.

All right, Leo Romo.

I'll tell you, I'm not that

good, Mardo.

You think we should buy those

top 10s and?

Just make a top ten sampler.

It's $15.

No, we're not buying them.

God.

Jesus.

It's $15.

It's out of stock.

Oh.

Here it is.

It's top ten.

Everybody's buying them.

I don't think so.

I think that they're like.

It was a 10 stick run.

It's.

Really. 10 sticks.

Only for these guys.

Aficionado bought up six of.

Them so.

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Right #9.

El pulpo.

I feel like this is like a

classic.

La Roma de Cuba MI amore Bella

coso la.

Roma de Cuba.

I feel I've had that.

Maybe not this one, but when I

had one, what?

Do you think of this one?

Phil I've had it a long time

ago, yeah.

And it's, I mean, it's like a

big box cigar.

It is, would you say I?

Think I got it off a cigar bit a

long time ago.

So what do you think is better

this or the my father?

Or the tatwahe.

I'm sorry.

What do you think is better this

or the my father?

I'd probably say my father.

Yeah, you think of my father was

was better than the my father.

This chotuahi is better than my

father.

Or what do you think?

I think they're about this.

They're close.

Chotuahi is better than Chotuahi

and my father about the same.

But I think I've only smoked

regular Chotuahi's.

Yeah, I've never.

So there's a twain and my father

the same, but this one, this

aromatic cube is different.

Why they all made?

The same 'cause they're also

made the same.

Is this one complete shit?

Well, I know when I smoked this

one a long time ago and it felt

cheap.

Oh, oh, OK all.

Right.

I mean, it's top 10.

Can't be that cheap.

Well, again, I mean the.

Pool is.

Like 15 bucks.

Yeah.

Is it just like something that

somebody always ends up smoking

through the Hydra cigar

experience?

Ail hydra.

All right, number six, 87889582.

I'm going the wrong way, Alec

Bradley.

Alec and Bradley.

Renziado torpedo.

I don't know how you don't look

at this.

Listen, just.

Fucking I know how is it?

This is that.

Used to that was once a Cigar of

the year, by the way.

Was it really?

Yeah So it just rotates in here

this.

Should be called the CI top 25.

These guys are just assholes.

They're fucking.

It's like Hunger Games, they

bring back all the old winners.

Well, well, OK, don't worry.

Have you had it Let's go back

put some shit in from last year.

We're.

Tired of smoking?

Things just bring some.

Else in Who cares?

Can't wait to see the Olmec just

go off the less nice year.

I mean, there's just.

So many.

Great.

I would just, look, if I'm like,

I bet you there's probably a

room of guys that get together

and they're like, how much

bullshit do they even get away

with?

And then they get away with it

that year and they're like,

we're going to have to up the

ante.

See how far we can push this

maybe?

We can do some more bullshit.

You want to know what we should

do?

Let's throw the blackened on

there.

Yeah, that's.

I mean, after #8, they're just

really going to piss you.

Off that's number seven, the

blackened cigar everyone by Drew

Estate Corona.

Look, this is where oldest

should have definitely.

Been if you like the cigar.

I'm sorry, I don't know what's.

Wrong.

It's on a lot of people's list.

Yeah, a lot of people really

like the cigar.

Maybe we got a bad batch.

It's terrible.

It was so bad.

I've never tasted a cigar that

tasted so bad.

Yeah, it was God awful.

And it wasn't that it had no

flavor.

It had bad.

Flavor.

Yeah, yeah.

I agree with what you're saying,

Michael.

It was gross.

I don't know.

I don't know how you guys got

there.

If you like it, good for you, I

mean, I guess.

I guess if you if burnt hair it

was.

Where were you?

Where were you when I smoked?

This, I don't know crack.

Liquid Crack Oh.

Man, Liquid Crack might have

tasted better.

It was terrible, man.

It was.

I'm sorry, guys.

I don't know what you're doing.

Smelled bad look.

I don't know what to say.

Look.

Up the studio.

It was so bad.

And you like it.

OK, man, I.

Look me in the eye and tell me

this.

Is a good cigar hey.

Show me the check they wrote you

before you did the review.

Listen.

Because I want one.

Then I'll say it's good too.

I don't care so.

You hit me a lot of cool swag.

That's.

Right.

I got a lot of that booze.

That's really good too.

I don't know if it tastes like

the cigar teach.

If you guys like the cigar you

like, look, it's entirely

subjective.

All I'm saying is you might be

eating fucking fetus.

Is this subjective?

I mean the three of us here.

I just think that you're easy.

Well, three of us hate it.

The rest of the world loves.

It.

I think that people are easily

convinced, man.

It's good, right?

Yeah.

It's Metallica.

It's really good.

He has Metallica.

It's like rock'n'roll.

It's like rock'n'roll, yeah.

OK all.

Right number six, the party is

series P #2.

That's got to be.

That's got to be a Cuban, right?

Yeah, that's a Cuban.

Yeah, another cigar.

You just pick up anywhere in the

New York area.

Yeah, I.

Don't think I've ever had that.

One EP.

Corilio Allegiance Confident.

Yeah.

It looks familiar I.

Haven't had to, probably had it.

Which one looks familiar?

The EP Korea.

Oh, they came out with a lot of

those Allegiant Pledge of

Allegiance and everything this

year.

All right, well, he's going to

make the list in one way or

another.

Rocky Patel ALR second edition.

The poor.

Guy is always a fucking

bridesmaid.

I have had this.

One has yet to be #1.

Just give him #1 already, for

fuck's sake.

It's a joke as is, guys.

Let's fucking throw that throw,

man.

Give him the One. 4th best.

You know, I want to see

conviction at #1, the $100 cigar

next year.

I want that to be number 10.

That's right, the $100 guy.

Very rare.

How did none of those make the

list?

What you talking about they?

Can't buy them what?

The $100 one.

Any of them.

Well, the the most of them came

out too recently.

Well, like the NFTS, Well, you

can't get them at those spots.

You have to be.

They have.

I mean, they're getting Cubans.

They have no, no, no.

That's different.

It's totally different.

Don't be ridiculous, NFT.

What's his name about NFT?

That's totally that's different.

Yeah, it's again same scenario,

different.

Different, Yeah.

So the top.

Sorry, Rocky, the top five are.

Hey, Cuban, you're not a cigar

maker.

You just assembled tobacco, EP

Carlio.

Wait, wait.

We gotta go to three first.

You're jumping.

No, no, I'm going backwards.

No, he's jumping.

Oh.

It's like the who's who of cigar

makers here these last five.

Yeah, this is just a big, you

know?

Oh, look.

What?

Look what's on the list.

Oliva series V Milanio Toro.

No.

I'm not gonna lie.

I mean I have had this and it is

good.

Isn't that the one we had we

hated couple of weeks ago?

No, I don't think that was that

one.

No, that was a different that

was a totally different, totally

different Loanio Loanio series V

that was a that was a 25th year

assumption.

Oh.

Wow, exact same thing.

Very rare, very, very expensive.

How do anybody respect us?

I mean, like, I can't believe

people look at us and say hi.

Still not one Espinoza on here.

I mean, what the fuck?

That's right, no.

Nothing.

No.

Room One O 1?

No.

Room one O 1.

No Pastania.

That's.

Yeah, that's no Roma, they.

Never made the.

Roma, yeah.

I mean, I would even put HVC

before all these.

John Barton's not allowed to be

on here.

Which he explained to every he

explains every year.

Every year, he explains why he's

never on the.

List.

You know what?

You know what I'm going to do is

I'm going to copy and paste his

and then I'm going to just

replace it with Postania.

Say hey, listen, thank you for

everybody, for our age and

reaching out.

But This is why I'm not on the

list this.

Is why I'm not on this list.

No, I agree on #2 to be in the

top five.

It's always going to be in the

there's.

Always going to be a Padrone in

there.

It's going to be in the top

three.

I agree on that one.

Why is it always different

number no.

The 48 this year is.

Better they call on the phone,

George, which one you want this

year?

You know, we got a lot of the

40.

Eights got a lot of the 48 to

get there, so it'd be nice if we

can move those.

Not a problem Sir.

Number.

Two, I don't think that George

gives a fuck.

I do not agree with #1.

Founti founti opus X reserva de

Chateau this.

Is the one where the guy on

Weasel Team six got big on it.

What guy?

Robbie.

No, his name's Tony or something

like that.

It was somebody I'd never heard

of before, but he put on there

like the Cigar of the Year.

Oh, I saw that, but I don't know

who it was.

And he put this in and then

Robbie chimed in.

I'm like, come on guys, who?

First of all, who the fuck put

this on here?

Second of all, Robbie, you know

that this is not the best cigar

of the year.

Yes, but it increases the value

of it.

So Robbie likes it that it's

there, yeah.

And now he can con people with

all his other opuses he has and

convention.

That's the one that was on the

list.

This is the one.

Come on.

It's very rare.

It's got the red X.

Number one.

This is a horrible list.

It is every year, buddy.

Yeah, it's a joke every year.

So there you have it.

So the the top so this.

Really drives cigar prices.

No, it really, I mean,

realistically, all it does is it

really creates some demand for

the number one cigar and the

rest of them are kind of moot.

What's kind of funny?

Though unless you're a smaller

guy like Vanessa Mendoza would

have made the list, it would

have been a big deal to that

they would have.

Don't get me wrong, I would love

to make this list, you know?

It's like exposure is exposure,

you know?

But that would never happen.

Are they not smoking it?

No, they're not smoking my

cigars.

They're just smoking cigar.

Look at.

Where they're smoking, they're

smoking the foreign affair.

Well, how did Olmec get in

there?

I I don't know how you don't

acknowledge Olmec.

He always, He always seems to

have one on the list too.

Lately.

Yeah.

Last three years, I think.

Is he in CI?

Probably.

Probably There's a lot of people

in CIO that that aren't on the

list.

And this literally looks like

that type of list.

Oh.

God, I know what's going on with

my jaw.

It's driving me nuts.

TMJ.

Yeah, a little.

A little.

Demanding yesterday.

I apologize.

Wow, you're not demanding at all

in your condition, Sir.

Made me feel better.

Unbelievable.

Well, I guess I can send your

seaman with the Pete Johnson

seaman to the boy down to her.

Place there you go.

Send it all in one big jar.

This.

Is Palmer Seaman?

I know it's not a lot, but you

know he's not.

He's not left.

He's not in his prime.

Very potent.

Oh, so the voting ends soon for

the top top cigar or whatever.

What?

I don't know the general

consensus.

Was it half wheel?

Oh, half wheel yeah thing when

they start collecting

consensuses.

I think so.

Oh yeah, the way to go.

I saw coops doing a little.

He's been doing a video every

afternoon of one cigar.

Oh really?

Today's #22 Cigar of the Year.

I have not seen Postani yet, but

he's only like the 16.

Hey, we could be up there.

Who knows?

You got to get him to the

devotion to do it though.

I mean, every day, a little

video.

It's a lot of work.

Yeah, he works hard, man.

It's hard to be.

Just not on the the news of the.

And he listens to our show.

Everybody listen to the show,

Michael.

That's what's so stupid about

all.

This.

We're a bunch of idiots just

sitting here slamming other

people's.

What's?

Funny is, we're not we're

actually not idiots.

That's the funny part.

Right.

Oh well, I guess you could look

at it that way.

Because I've listened to some of

these other podcasts.

Oh, they're terrible.

And I'm like, and I'm not

talking about the top tier guys,

but some of these other guys.

Of course, the top tier guys.

And I'm just like, my God, you

sound stupid.

You sound really dumb.

I can't listen to some of the

lower level shows.

The the ones that are beneath

you, Michael.

They're not beneath me.

They're beneath.

You that is true, I have.

Quality issues.

If it doesn't sound good, I

can't listen.

Oh yeah, that's a big deal too.

I'm a sound snob.

Now, apparently it's.

A sound.

Kind of.

Stuff the whole show no.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Yeah, no, I'm done.

I'm out of here.

I'm in gibberish about cigars

tonight because I listened to

other podcasts.

OK, listen, I don't have a

listener of the week, I don't

have a shop of the week, and I'm

not doing the Roma.

I'm not announcing the.

Person Wow.

Just let us down all over the

place.

Look, man.

We're here.

Who's the big winner upstairs at

the thing?

There wasn't a big winner.

That wasn't.

No.

OK.

Leave it alone.

Yeah.

All right.

No big winner, OK.

So when will you be announcing?

I'll do it on Instagram probably

tomorrow.

Oh, nice.

OK, oh, just completely cut us

out.

Yeah.

No, I'll do it with you guys.

Oh, OK.

Oh, perfect.

Well, with you.

Well, I'll be Tomorrow's

Thursday, tomorrow's.

Thursday.

So then I'll be doing it without

you.

So I'll do it with you, Phil.

Oh, perfect.

Yeah.

By default.

How exciting.

You can FaceTime me and

videotape it.

FaceTime you go in.

Yeah, just screen record screen.

OK, I'll do that.

Oh, we'll have Mom in it.

We'll have Mom do that.

Can't you just do like the the

can't Facebook like put it as a

conference Oh I.

Don't know, I guess.

Yeah, if you do Facebook Live, I

know Instagram.

Can we can FaceTime in?

I can say that I'm her husband.

She won't know.

She'll believe it.

Hey, where you been?

Why did you leave?

Wow, I moved out.

I moved out.

Great.

You're too.

You're too crazy.

Your Alzheimer's is roaring.

Anybody got anything else?

Oh, we're just bad matching my

mother.

No, that's it.

All right.

Well.

Until next week.

Until next week, everybody.

Are we gonna?

Hey, Happy New Year.

Happy New Year.

Oh yeah, everybody have a.

Happy New Year.

Smoke a lot of cigars.

Post on your cigars.

Hey, we'll see you next year,

but.

Maybe maybe you can get a hold

of a Red Robusto.

Not the black or the white.

Black or the white but the red

one.

Yeah, the red, the red.

Sounds amazing.

Or the one with the octopus.

Maybe get that one though.

That's nice too.

Or any of the other cigars

besides the Olmec or the Pedro.

I can't wait for the hate mail

for the black and just kidding.

Oh wow.

Hey man, I really like that

cigar.

I was like, oh, well, good for

you.

Let's talk about that.

Let us help you.

Right.

We can help you put that down

and walk away, yeah.

And how did that make you feel?

Yeah.

All right.

All right guys, we got to go.

Bye bye.

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Show Notes

In Episode 313 of the Cigar Hustlers Podcast, join the boys as they delve into the world of premium cigars. This week, they're dissecting the top-rated cigars by Cigar Aficionado, uncovering the secrets behind what earns a spot on that coveted list. From flavor profiles to construction, the hosts share their unfiltered opinions and insights on what truly makes a cigar stand out and gain recognition in the industry. Tune in for an in-depth discussion that goes beyond the ratings, exploring the craftsmanship and nuances that elevate these cigars to the top.