Cigar Hustlers Podcast Episode 320: Legal Battles, Promotions, and Kangaroo Capers
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Oh look at you printed it and
everything.
It looks lovely, my dear friend
Don Patel at Cigars on The Ave.
Oh, yes.
Oh, I was.
Go ahead.
No, you go.
No, no, no, I'll stop.
No, no 'cause I did I I did.
I decided not to because I
didn't know.
So maybe this is not the same
thing.
So, oh, OK, he's he's up for a
vote.
It was the same thing.
With the PCA.
Oh, I didn't because there's a
link.
You have to have to vote.
I have the link.
OK, but I didn't know how to put
the link out.
So here's so, so hold on.
So listen, OK, so look for the I
was like, where is it?
It's over there.
So listen, Don Patel is a great
friend of mine for a long time,
a very long time.
He has a fantastic retail stop
shop over in Winter Park.
We go there all the time, or at
least I go there all the time I
try to go.
It's a great place.
Every few weeks he is up for
APCA, vote for a cigar bar.
Like yadda yadda right?
So like they have three
different categories, cigar bar,
cigar, wine and beer.
And then just regular cigar
store.
So they have three different
votes and he's in the category
for the cigar bar.
Is that like the highest one?
That's the.
That's the first.
One.
That's the first one.
So what I'm going to do is I'm
going to give the put the link
in the comments section of the
YouTube page.
The description, you can put it
in the description in the.
Description OK, it'll be in the
description of the show.
If you guys can go out and
support my friend, I would
greatly appreciate it.
You guys been a tremendous
mentor for me, a huge help in
the retail side of things, and I
know that he would greatly
appreciate it.
It's a amazing store.
It really is.
So do me a favor and just click
the link and vote for him.
The Cigars on the Avenue, My
boy, Don Patel.
It'll be in the audio and the
video description, so just in
case they.
Perfect.
One or the other.
Thank you so much guys in
advance.
Well, that's cool.
Yeah, man.
'Cause what was he classified as
before?
Just cigar.
Just.
I don't know how you get
submitted for this, but I saw it
too somewhere today.
Are you in this one yesterday?
No, no, no.
Other than him, I don't know who
else was any.
There's a couple of the shops
that I recognized.
I was there.
I'm just really close with him,
you know.
Right, right, right back.
So I want to support him.
So the last time we spoke, we
talked briefly about TB, but it
was still kind of going on,
right?
I have a guy who was there and
he is going to share with us if
he answers.
Hope it's not Justin Anders.
It's it's not.
Justin He doesn't answer the
phone.
Yeah, but he's on a plane to
Don, to Donna Lee or something,
so he's not going to answer the.
Phone.
Maybe it's Matt Booth.
No, this guy's.
He was.
He was probably.
There.
This guy's a go to.
He's an in source retailer.
He'll let you know what's.
Going on, oh, retail.
Who is it?
Oh, we talking Secreto.
No.
Oh.
Thank goodness.
Oh man, no.
Offense, Ronnie.
Hey, man, what's up?
Hey, Brett.
Brett from.
In the area that he the with the
aliens are the.
Yes, the Virginian kingpin.
There you go.
One of the tallest retailers
there is the.
Tallest.
Nowhere near, but I I appreciate
that being what you think about.
Things about how big you are.
So, so how you doing, buddy?
You doing all right?
Yeah man, I'm doing well.
OK, well I I know that we didn't
partake in the TPE event, but I
was I was hoping if you can give
us back some some info as to how
it was.
Was it busy?
Let me ask you that was was TPE
busy this year?
I mean I I guess no, in the
grand scheme of it did not
appear or seem that there was as
many people as as normal, but
that includes the the folks that
go for the head shop stuff, the
non premium.
Oh, there weren't many of those
people there either.
There's the difference.
Well, I'm not saying there were
many.
I'm just saying I don't think
there were as many as there have
been in the past.
Gotcha.
It was weird because there were
two floors, right?
So the 2nd floor was was vape
only, and then there was some
vape and the head shop stuff
downstairs with the cigars, but
the cigar, the cigar vendors in
particular seemed not as busy
this year.
Did it seem like less people
because they split it Because
normally it's all in one big
room?
I well that's that's what I'm
getting at it.
I think it may be because of
that because they split it.
Did you get laid this morning or
something, bro?
I like angry Brett.
This is not the Angry Brett
that.
Hey, how are you?
No, I would say it wasn't busy,
but it was kind of buzzer.
I've given it.
I've given a lot of thought.
Here's Here's my thoughts.
If you really want my thoughts,
which is why you're calling,
here's my thoughts.
All right.
I I think that even if you know
I'm.
I'm upset that TCA moved it to
the weekend.
Where it's the third largest
weekend in Vegas, March Madness,
Every Everybody's Booked, Every
dinner's Booked, and Wu Tang
Residency is releasing on the
21st.
I believe Wu Tang.
So it's it's it's a lot of
things going on.
We shouldn't be at that weekend,
but I think what that did is
that forced a people to decide
if I'm only going to Vegas for
one thing this year.
Right, right.
And I think a lot of people
decided, I'm hoping that they
decided to go to PCA.
As horrible as it's going to be.
That's what I believe.
However, I'll tell you this,
tell me because PTA made a quick
draw move to move away from
Vegas the same time they decided
to move it to the spring.
Both bad decisions in my
opinion.
I think that next year TP will
be larger really for the cigar
pose because I think there's a a
definitive amount of people that
still want to go to Vegas once a
year, excuse to go to Vegas once
a year.
I have a question just really
quickly, cuz I know there's
something that happened this
past weekend.
Okay.
So for the Super Bowl in Vegas,
they canceled everybody's
tickets to like the Sphere, all
the shows, everybody already had
tickets, bought all the dinners,
like everything, all the
reservations, everything.
And then they let you re reserve
stuff, rebuy tickets, and it was
like four times the amount of
what you originally purchased it
for.
There's.
A lot of.
People there, do you think they
could do that for March Madness?
No.
Of course.
Of course.
Of course they will.
Well, here's why.
Because they've already begun
selling sections of sports books
for groups of men to go there
and sit and drink all day and
watch games.
And then they'll all want to go
to go to dinner.
If you have not made dinner
reservations, you should.
You should make them
immediately.
I generally just go and pick up
chicken at Costco.
That's interesting of it.
And I get it.
And I grill it in it but.
But the majority of the industry
wines and Dimes.
The majority of the industry
wines and Dimes.
Yeah, I'm not built that way.
I'm built different.
I'm built.
Fucking different, buddy built.
And always the one.
So, so how high were you when
you came to the inclination that
TPE 2025 would probably be
busier because of the fact that
PCA would be in New Orleans at
the following year?
Well, here's the thing.
I think New Orleans is, is I I'm
not too high on New Orleans,
even though I'm excited to go
because I enjoy the the history
of that city because of the
smoking and and the fact that
well here here's a here's a
breakdown to you're you're
different because you literally
work and then go sleep.
Most people if you go, if you
go, if you go to the DP, if you
go to PCA by yourself, all
right.
And you're not a big account.
Vegas at least gives you a shot
at meeting up or hanging or
congregating with people.
It's not going to be that way in
New Orleans.
True.
So if you're small and you're
and you don't have people
wanting and dining, right, like
I'm relatively small.
I have one or two companies that
may Take Me Out for dinner,
you're kind of a big deal,
right?
Don't I wish, don't I wish if I
had 70s location, I was just
before I would give up, right.
Just so we're clear, you're
like.
Estate Megalodon in the in the
Middle East.
No, I'm not.
I just.
I just do things the way they
want to, that's all.
But what is?
King of Virginia.
Oh yeah, you're the.
You're the fratello fucking.
Oh yeah, the Fratello
distributor.
Are you launching the thing too
with Omar?
The what?
Are you launching the castle
with Omar?
The castle, the rocket.
The.
Rocket the.
Little cardboard rocket.
He can't even.
Get a joke?
Do I Look, are Are we on?
Are we on Patreon or or a
podcast?
No, this is Patreon.
Patreon, this is.
Patreon.
No, it's not.
It's not.
All right.
Do I look like a freaking rocket
scientist?
No.
All right, barely got out of
high school anyway.
But all I'm saying is I think
PCI.
Even though PCA seemed dead or
less busy for our premium
industry this year, I do not
think that writing it off is
going to happen because I do
believe you will see a
resurgence once you move for the
next few years.
Because once you new PCA out of
Vegas, I think there's still a
lot of people who want to go to.
Vegas, Well, I think, I mean you
might be right to some degree
because you know, at the end of
the day, if I'm looking at TPE
next year and I'm thinking,
well, I could probably make
January Vegas, not because I'm
like whoa, who?
Who?
Vegas?
But you know, hey, New Orleans
isn't that far for me.
It's not as as big of a time
sucking as far as a commitment
is concerned, you know, whatever
the case may be as far as cost
and all those other things.
So I I might be able to swing
both.
Maybe.
Maybe.
But well, listen, I don't live
my life that far ahead, let's be
honest.
The whole point of TP though, is
for people to spend money with
the brands, right?
I mean the whole point of any
well, the.
Whole point of any shows, yeah.
So are you willing as a retailer
Brett, to spend money at TP and
then spend a whole bunch of
money at PCA or?
Well, but what you got to, but
what you're not considering the
industry because you don't you
because think about this, I have
to project, I have to project.
So I buy cigars for at least 1/4
at a time, right?
I have to.
So in theory, yes, I mean it's
OK for me to plan Q2 or even the
end of Q1 in January and going
there and buying and taking
advantage of the deal.
I might not buy the most
expensive tier they put out
there, but it does help me get
some form of deal, especially
with companies that don't offer
any deal when I order.
So there is some benefit for me
to go.
Now, do I have a ton of money in
the winter?
No.
But then why the freak are we
moving PCA to spring when I
don't when northern shops don't
have any money anyway, right?
So I have issue with it being
moved from summer to spring and
people are going well.
They can project and at least
the the people who run the the
Myrtle Beach shops and the shops
or now they can, they can have
the cigars ready if they order
them in the spring.
It's not a retailer issue.
The reason it got moved from
summer to spring, and it sucks
is because it was done for
manufacturers and that's who
really is running and paying for
PCA, right?
Because then they can plan
better and have cigars ready for
the prime time for these
retailers in summer rather than
just ordering them summer and
then having them in October.
But if they would have just in
my opinion, if they would have
just switched that on their own,
they could have done the thing
and they could have ordered and
shipped in the summer.
But rather than that they want
to, they want to, they want to
put it on a different time for
retailers.
And then it just so happens to
be a very poor time for many
retailers and really we're only
talking about new stuff.
So now you've got retailers
buying for Q, 2-3 and four in
Q1.
And then when they don't have a
lot of money because
everything's slow and at least
the north of Mason Dixon line
and it just doesn't work out
because they're still going to
have regular core line that
ships.
So now I got to decide who I can
support big when PCA is in the
spring rather than in the summer
when I got a little bit more
money and a little bit more
freedom to support larger for
these companies.
But again, I'm a small potato
comparative to the guys making
these decisions.
The guys making these decisions
are a lot bigger than than me.
Well, you might be a small
potato, but you're my favorite
potato.
Thank you, buddy.
I appreciate that.
Yeah.
Like a small potato, is that a
better flavor?
Mr. Potato Head Small Mr. Potato
Head.
So.
All right.
Well, hey, thank you so much,
Brett, for giving us the Intel
on the TPE did.
I get as angry as you wanted me
to get at the end I.
Mean.
Yeah.
I mean, I said yes a couple
times like yes.
So I was, I was happy.
You made me very happy.
I hope that that reflects on
someone that walks into your
store and you project that
energy moving forward.
Oh buddy, they know.
I'm I'm more ornery than angry
in the shops.
You know that.
Yeah, it's fun.
I get it.
All right, brother.
Well, thank you so much.
I appreciate you.
I appreciate you guys.
All right.
See you in a couple of weeks.
Go back.
Bye.
All right.
We'll.
See you in a few weeks.
Bye.
Brett Fry of Tabacology, a
regular on a Cigar Hustler's
podcast.
There's got to be people too
that don't go to TPE
manufacturers that you that if
you wanted to you could go,
well, I'll just hit all the guys
that do peace do TPE and then
I'll go to PCA and hit the guys
that weren't at TPI.
Mean there are even some
manufacturers that show up to
TPE and they don't write orders
to like we're here, we're just
here.
Oh, it's right.
I remember that.
Yeah, Yeah.
Fuente was like Fuente did that.
Fuente did that.
We have a booth.
Yeah, we just imagine.
Having so much Imagine having so
much money just to fucking put
up a booth.
Yeah, and not.
Give us just lean there and
smoke and go, huh?
We are awesome.
It's nice to see you.
Would you like cigar?
No, no samples today.
I'm sorry, we're not.
We're just here.
We're fresh out of samples.
Act like we're not here.
Yeah, just like not here, but
you appreciate the fact that we
supported TPE because some
reason you.
Did that.
Mike Tyson was at TPE.
Yes, we mentioned that last week
taking photos with everybody.
Yeah, I'm surprised they split
it, Split it into two floors.
It obviously got big.
Was that?
Big I.
Guess I guess the other the
other people, the the non cigar
people, the whole.
Pot thing's just blowing up.
You think that it can't sustain,
hold more money?
It's like, yeah, no, we got, we
got more money.
There's more people with vapes.
Was Tyson there for the cigars
or was he there because of the
weed?
He was there.
He's got his own weed thing,
right?
I'm sure everybody, everybody
has their own weed thing now.
Go see.
But I would go see Tyson.
I would love to meet Mike Tyson.
Are you kidding me?
That guy?
Michael, I'm here to see you.
Hello.
Well, maybe that's why
everybody's going to go to TV.
Next week, that guy is next.
Level.
He won't be there next.
Year.
Dude, he's a fucking conqueror,
man.
I mean, shit.
Yeah, you know, I'll hit.
You.
Want me to hit you?
I don't want him to hit me.
This is a hey, man.
It's an honor to meet you.
I'll.
Be hit by me too.
Watch this.
It sounds like John drew a
little.
Bit a little bit, but no, but
no, no accent.
Jonathan Drew Tyson.
The accent's still there, buddy.
Just barely.
Just barely.
So how was your weekend?
You hung out of the house.
I got a heavy bag to go into my
boxy Oh.
Look at you.
Oh, we're, we're ramping.
Up.
I hung that up on.
We got a sign.
I got it for Valentine's.
Day.
Oh, a little early Valentine's
Day.
Yes, because you know, there's
work.
You got to hang it up and stuff.
And she wanted me to pick it
out.
So I got the one I wanted.
Nice.
That is a lot more work, let me
tell you.
That's a little punching, the
lights on the wall.
It's a heavy a lot.
More work.
It's a heavy bag.
Hanging on, hanging.
It was on you beam.
I put it on a beam.
In the garage.
On the garage.
Yeah, you putting gloves on?
Yeah, the the light one came
with gloves.
OK, Put gloves on.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
OK.
Yeah, don't do anything stupid.
And wrap my wrist too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Don't come in here.
Yeah, I'm hurting today though.
I mean, first time I did was
this morning.
Oh, really?
It's a lot more work.
Yeah, well.
That's good.
Look at.
Slug that thing and you're like,
oh Gee, that's hard, look at
you.
You're getting so fit.
I'm so proud of you.
Thank you.
I forgot the red light this
morning, but I did red light on
Saturday, so I got an.
Extra K you're still doing it.
You're kind of doing it now.
You're kind of.
You're still doing it, but it's
the wrong type of light bulb.
Proud of you?
I'm very proud of you.
Thank.
You keep it up.
Thank you.
I'm enjoying the hitting the
things.
Yeah, you take it out, you know,
and you put my face on there if
you'd like.
No, no.
You know what?
I.
Mean you're on the thing on the
wall with the lights.
Oh, OK, perfect.
There's five of them, so you
know, I may have all of you on
one.
Oh, good.
Different lights.
Oh, we all have a list.
You all have a spot.
How many?
How many lights is is industry
on three?
He's on three lights.
He's on three of the five.
Good.
Greg's on the other one.
He's on the top three, Greg's on
the bottom three.
Well, Keanu's on one too.
Must be 6, must be 6.
It's.
Gotta be 6.
Well, I can take him down now
because now he knows upstairs we
told him maybe he got the.
You're out of here, pal.
You're done.
You never come back in here.
The guy still couldn't show up
on time for a meeting, right?
Yeah.
So, well, he's kind of already
done well.
Yeah, well, I had football.
Oh.
He did.
Yes, I heard him upstairs
discussing.
Did he show up to both or did he
was?
He was able to talk about both,
so I guess he was at both.
He probably did both.
I had to.
They were close together, so I
had to leave halfway through the
Bucks game to go and take care
of the my Justices team, the
Pats.
Oh, gotcha.
OK, great games.
Well, I mean.
Oh, I thought you said you had
that fixed where you they didn't
have the games at the same time.
They weren't at the same time,
but they were still a little bit
of run, run together.
That's where I had to warm up
the kids.
So, but there was a there.
Jax's game was OK, they did OK
They made, they made a couple
mistakes and it cost them the
game.
Justice's team, they played
really well, man.
They played really, really well.
I was very proud of those kids.
You know, it's awesome because
all those kids work hard, right?
And the excuses are so minimal
at this point.
Oh, if they make a mistake or
something.
Yeah, it's, you know.
Did you mess that up?
Yep.
OK, good.
So, you know, how do all right.
How do we fix that?
Like I had a kid that he he
snapped the ball too high.
Cost us a downturn over on down,
like, oh, you just cost us a
touchdown.
Can I work on that?
Absolutely, dude.
You know, 'cause like, I'm don't
do it again.
He's like, I'm sorry.
And I'm like, I'm not, you know
Rule #1 is don't be sorry.
Be better.
I'm not mad.
I'm not where I've moved on.
You know.
You need over with now.
Yeah.
You got to fix it.
I'm not going to sit here.
I'm just not.
I'm not.
I'm not that.
Coached.
Throw my helmet, dude.
Fix it.
Just fix it, man.
You know enough.
Cut the shit.
I can't say that.
But you know, and and what's
cool is I don't have to say
that.
They're all they know.
I should cut my shit.
I'm sorry.
They know when the pressure's
coming.
You know, if you start messing
up.
Fuck me, coach.
I'm like.
I'm like, all right, who's the
next center?
This guy doesn't have his gloves
on.
All right, you're out of here.
You know?
Well, what?
What?
I'm like, be ready.
Oh, you know, you said it was
the exact same thing last night.
I know.
'Cause those are the, those are
my.
Experience.
I just listened to it yesterday,
so it's just fresh, yeah.
Sorry.
No, no, you're fine.
I'll shut up now.
No, no.
Saturday we did a little
universal.
Action.
Oh, we went to Torchy's Tacos on
Saturday.
Did you?
Yes.
How was it?
I'm glad he's not a sponsor.
Wow.
Wow.
I like it.
Why did you say that?
I don't know, I expected more,
something different, bigger,
better or.
Something because the hype was.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, the food was OK.
It's built into your head that
it was going to be something.
That's what I mean, yeah.
That's the problem.
Yeah.
And I'm sure I'm sure I
misordered the first time I've
been, yeah.
You have to remember that it is
TACOS.
Yeah, it's good tacos.
Yeah Yeah but like I got the
what the the trailer park, but I
added the the queso and
subtracted the trashy trashy.
But their queso's very spicy,
which they don't mention, so at
least it was to me.
It is.
It is a little spicy, yeah.
The queso's very spicy, so
Adrian got it with the salad
with the lettuce, and I got it
with the queso on mine.
I didn't like 'cause it's too
spicy.
It's too spicy.
I just think that's where you
messed up.
Well, yeah.
And then the the fajita Taco
thing.
The meat was OK, but it was just
meat.
It was nothing special.
I could have made that at home.
Gotcha.
So just misordered.
She like she got some green
chili things.
She liked that one.
She.
Said.
Did you get any of the drinks?
No, no, we just got soda.
Oh, I like it.
I like torches.
I like the place and we sat
outside.
It was a nice day and it was
very clean and stuff.
So I mean, wasn't anything
wrong?
I just think maybe I misordered.
You're right by my house.
I know I was.
But you don't.
You don't like the poppin?
It's true.
Yeah.
You don't like the poppin?
We did, Universal, we did a
little bit of Mardi Gras action
and oh, did you?
Yeah.
Oh, nice.
I lost goes for too.
Long though, so they gone.
Blast.
On which day?
Saturday.
Yeah, yeah, Kids had a good time
and Sunday was Super Bowl.
Yes, at the end of the day.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, we cleaned up the house
and stuff and then Sunday we'd.
Do this.
We cleaned up the the house
Sunday.
And you were harassing me with
your fucking texts, Yes.
And that was that was Taylor.
Cooler.
Swift.
I wouldn't say Taylor.
Hicks I would not engage.
It No, no, you didn't you.
Didn't I don't care.
I know you do.
I know you weren't gonna engage,
but I know you still saw it
every time I sent.
It I don't care, though.
I don't.
First of all, I don't.
Yeah, I know, but I was just
being annoying.
I got nothing against Taylor
Swift.
Being at the stadium like I
don't give a shit about I.
Thought you weren't seeing it?
I would send it to your wife.
You show this to your husband.
This is so ridiculous.
If he would have put the little
notifications or silence.
Right, right, right it look.
Like, oh, it's not delivered.
None of it was a surprise.
Notify anyway you.
Didn't I thought you didn't
expect them to win?
No, the juice are going to win
you.
Didn't even expect them to go to
the Super Bowl.
I didn't expect them to go to
the Super Bowl, so I.
Used to go to the Lions.
And you know what?
It was a good game, but I
watched the entire thing the
first time I'm thinking.
It was a fantastic, yeah.
It was a fantastic game.
It was a fantastic halftime
show.
Oh, I didn't like.
The head time.
Oh my God, the halftime show was
amazing.
You could.
Because you don't have, you
didn't have fucking John Denver
playing or.
Something.
No.
I knew everybody was singing
Alicia Keys.
She did a really good job.
I think they all sure had a mic
problem.
He couldn't.
You couldn't hear him well.
Oh, I thought he did fantastic.
It's like a high.
It's like our high school era.
Yeah, I thought it was.
I thought it was a great
presentation.
I thought it was fantastic.
Ludacris came out.
Yeah, listen, you don't have
Usher come out there without
Luda.
Ridiculous.
Some lady fell off a pole.
I didn't even notice.
I didn't see that either.
No, I saw it on somewhere else.
Damn.
And what's your name?
Who sang the American?
The national anthem.
I don't think she Reba Reba.
She didn't do a good job either.
She started too low.
I'm not.
I'm not big on Reba.
She's too old.
She can't hit those notes
anymore, I mean.
You're pretty hard on all those,
dude.
I do sound, Michael.
Four to five days a week, it's.
It's.
It's a thing.
Goodness.
Sound and video quality is like
my little thing now.
I mean, I can tell you couldn't
hear him.
He's singing and like, OK, well,
you can't really hear him till
he turns his head.
Oh my God.
That was a $10 million half so.
Realistically, Detroit, you
should have beat Kansas City.
Detroit just imploded.
All of a sudden they decided to
not catch balls, you know.
But realistically, as far as the
matchup was concerned, Kansas
City won that game.
I mean, they played fantastic.
They wanted it more.
Yeah, they, you know it.
It came out of the two plays,
the missed point after attempt
that was blocked.
Right.
Yeah, it wouldn't win in
overtime if they hit.
That right.
And then the the last play for
San Francisco on the drive there
at the 8 yard line or wherever
the fuck they were, and they he
did a botched throw because he
got rushed.
I don't understand.
That's the one thing I didn't
understand from San Francisco.
You didn't expect them to bring
the heat.
I mean, you know, like, OK,
everybody's coming.
Listen, San Francisco was doing
great, bro.
Yeah, they just didn't
understand that they gave
Mahomes too much time.
They were doing great until they
fucked up when it really
mattered.
This guy's won two Super Bowls.
This isn't his first time.
And it's not like he's a
quarterback.
That's Mr. Irrelevant, right?
He's been here before.
He's a 2 minute drill guy.
Yeah, he's gonna do his thing.
Yeah, he's giving that much
time.
When he finished, when they did
the field goal, I knew the
defense was done.
San Francisco wasn't coming out
there and saying, all right,
we're gonna crush him, right?
They just said fuck, they just
stopped us at the 8.
This is what Mahomes lives for.
I mean, it's like when Brady
used to get on the field.
If you saw two minutes on the
clock at the end, oh Lord.
Oh, look at all this time I've
got.
Yeah, shit, you can give him 30
seconds.
I've got a whole half a minute,
9 plays.
But I don't think that.
He almost started one before the
way.
The receiver was back.
The way the Romo was talking, if
the clock had wound down, it was
still their drive.
It didn't matter.
They would just went into the
second overtime.
Well, that was, yeah.
But I'm talking on the fourth
quarter, in the fourth quarter,
if San Francisco would have
managed that a little bit better
and got it down to at least a
minute or under a minute.
Yeah, they gave him back the
ball with too much time left.
Yeah, he had two minutes.
I mean, for my homes, that's an
eternity.
Maybe good game.
It was fun to watch.
They've.
Got to stop letting Kelsey talk
after a game.
Why?
He's just a he's.
A He's.
A nut ball.
You know who he reminds me?
Of he's one of the favorite
parts I look forward to.
He reminds.
Me.
I mean, could you like seeing
him just Viva Las Vegas?
He reminds.
They're saying.
Like he's Elvis.
Mr. Brad Fry.
Oh yeah, yeah.
He is kind of like Bradford.
Yeah, I mean, he's not the
better of the two brothers.
Jason Kelsey is way better.
Yeah, he had a costume change
through the through the game,
did he?
Yeah, are.
You talking about like for
talking?
Neither.
One of them should talk.
No, he changed his club.
I'm.
Saying in general, like when
I've, when I've looked at the,
I'm not talking about as an
athlete, I'm talking about as
some of the clips that I've seen
on Instagram and shit, I'm like
Jason's awesome.
Jason is more clean cut and hey.
He's not clean cut, no.
More than the other one, no.
Travis.
I enjoy Jason.
Travis is like a rambling man
type of dude.
They're great players, but I
mean, you know, I like them as.
People, they're fun with the
big.
Game The owner talks, my home
talks, and some lady thought she
was going to get to talk and she
didn't get to talk.
Nope.
You don't know you didn't.
Trophy to him.
I'm going to shit right in this
trophy now.
I'm going to take a big.
As much money as Taylor Swift
made them right in this past
little bit.
Oh yeah, and as much publicly as
she's been getting, the NFL
still did not change the rules
about allowing nobody but wives
and children family inside the
box.
Well, that's.
At the end.
She she walked his mother down
there.
No.
Yeah, but she's not allowed.
Yeah, no, she's not allowed up
on the.
Podium thing.
Whatever.
So what?
She should have just.
She should have paid have her
own.
Podium, I'm just saying she.
Should have had her Own Podium
brought in.
You.
Know what?
But hey.
Bring Bring My Pony.
You know what?
Fucking kudos for her for not
being a shit bag about it and
saying, well, hey, I'm gonna do
it.
Well, you know who I am or any
of that, whatever.
She's like, OK, I'm here.
She's very low key.
I'm here to support my guy.
Right, right.
Whatever.
They did have, right after the
game, news clipping on Facebook.
Not news clipping, but a blog
about how Taylor Swift was
drinking too much beer.
Did you guys see that?
No, no, I never saw now.
Swifties are mad.
That she drank too much that.
She drank beer.
She's.
Giving off the wrong perception
of.
Oh my God, I never saw her
drinking a beer.
I didn't either.
God forbid she should be
fucking.
She's 20 something years old.
Every time they showed her,
she's just cheering her on her
phone.
And she's having a good time.
Fuck man, people are so crazy.
People all over Facebook were,
you know, I can't believe
they're keep showing her on the
game and blah blah.
Blah Who cares?
I don't know why.
Why do you?
Why do people care?
Right.
I don't have the fucking
anything.
Because she.
Likes because she likes Biden.
I'm like, well, you can't.
Who gives a shit?
You can't come to football games
because you like Biden Fucking
politics.
I'm sure there's players that
like Biden too.
Should they not play?
You think Andy Reid's done,
we'll end this.
No, no, he's not done.
Is that the That's the coach,
right?
Yeah.
He's not.
No, he's not done.
He's only got 3.
Did you see the way Travis
yelled at him?
He took that so well.
He's not going anywhere.
Yeah.
He was pissed.
Give me the.
Well, he no, he wanted no, he
wanted Travis wanted to be in on
the play.
Oh yeah, yeah.
I get it.
And and Andy got it too.
He's like, OK, motherfucker.
I'm busy here.
He's like, I don't see the same
thing.
He's like, I don't have time to
deal with you.
I beat cancer.
You think I'm going to worry
about you?
What about you yelling?
I go on my arm.
That's the cancer arm.
Come yell at me if I lose.
Fucking what's?
Your favorite commercial?
The Reese's one, that was a good
one.
Yay.
And they fucking smashed the oh
and they destroyed themselves.
They jumped out the window.
I don't.
Remember the Reese it?
Was like we're getting we're
changing Reese's Pieces, Reese's
Peanut Butter cups and everybody
like no, when they started,
everybody started destroying
themselves and smashing tables.
I didn't see like we're adding
caramel.
I was like yay.
And then everybody got excited.
I've seen.
You're still making the
original.
Well, that was that was at the
end.
I like the Dunkin' Donuts with
the.
Dunkings with Brady.
Yeah, the dunkings.
Yeah, with Brady that.
Ben Affleck Yeah, that was
pretty good.
I like at the.
Yeah, I was just like.
Brady, you can say.
Oh, I think he meant the thing.
He goes, you know what?
I said I'd help you with
anything.
That was anything.
Nothing else.
He goes, shut up.
They're making a drink after.
It was good.
Yeah, I know it was a good
trooper bowl.
I mean other than the the the
cheese one, but that's not
because of political influences.
Right, right.
Nobody won three in a row.
Is that the thing now?
Well, they didn't win three in a
row.
No, they've won two now, right?
Is that as many as anybody's
ever won?
In a row anybody's ever won
three I.
Think it's what they said last
night.
In a row, Yeah.
Oh no.
Nobody's ever won three in a
row.
Yeah, 'cause Brady only won
back-to-back.
I think they were.
It was was that with the perfect
season, they would have won
three at 2007.
Yeah, but they they lost it.
I remember that was the only
game.
That was the only game that I
well, there's actually the first
game I ever got mad at for
sports.
The the one after that, when
they put the Giants, I got mad
again.
I lost because I fucking can't
stand people that just come out
of the woodwork, that aren't
really fans, that just cheer on
Super Bowl and they're like,
yeah, in your face, Yeah, I'm
like, you don't even know the
fucking players.
You're not even fuck, you're not
nowhere near fucking invested.
I can't be around you 'cause I
may hurt you.
I have to go.
I have to leave for your own
protection.
How was the party you went to?
Great.
Good kids.
Had a great time.
We hung out on the patio.
It's quiet there.
On your patio.
No, we hung out on their patio.
Somebody else's patio.
Brittany and I hung out on their
patio.
Same thing you do at home.
Yeah, that's the same thing.
Yeah, smoked.
Do we have a baby update for
this week?
Baby's great, yeah.
Yep.
Baby's super chill.
All's well.
Good.
Has a baby visited you guys at
the house?
No, not yet.
Not yet.
Oh, I thought they were coming
over last week.
I don't know.
I don't they, I don't think they
have.
When Britney was here, maybe
they did and they just picked
something up.
Yeah, they came to pick.
Something they weren't hanging
out, though.
Maybe next time.
They have a lovely pool.
Wherever it is they'd live.
All the pictures now are by the
pool.
Yes.
Apartment living baby.
Yeah.
Somebody else's problem, right?
If you put your mask.
On we can do.
We can do Phil's fun facts.
You put your mask on.
If you're ready, sure.
Yeah, if you're ready over
there.
Welcome to Cigar Hustlers
podcast feature Phil's Fun
Facts.
There it is.
Hello people.
All right.
Did you know that an ancient
Rome, it was believed that
smoking cigar while riding a
chariot could improve your
chances of victory in battle?
Legend has it that Emperor Nero
himself would puff away on the
cigar before charging into
combat, claiming it sharpened
his focus and made his opponents
cough from the smoke, giving him
the upper hand.
However, historians suspect this
fact might just be smoke and
mirrors concocted by Nero's PR
team to make him seem more
formidable.
You know you sound really good
in that mask.
Well, 'cause it's not muffled.
Yeah, there's no muffling.
I didn't.
I wasn't listening.
Nero had APR, had PR people in
smoking in Roman times helped
you athletically.
Oh, nice.
Thank you.
It's a good, good fact to know
it helps me athletic as as well.
Doesn't, Yeah.
You don't smoke during the game
to the kids games.
No God, I wish I could holy.
Mold.
No smoking role.
Somebody would whip over there.
You're a bad influence.
I'm like.
Yeah, and put your vape back in
your pocket.
Listen.
Do you smoke before you go in
the gym?
No, I smoke after listen as as
they fucking as these parents
shit are fucking the nicotine
drunk and shit on the fucking
sidelines.
I know, yeah.
Vodka in your glass there, lady.
Nobody's fooling.
Listen, and you're Stanley.
I'm sure you pregamed.
Buddy, calm the fuck down.
That's why that's why Stanley is
so popular.
So much vodka.
But.
Nobody ever tailgated before
children's football games.
Are you kidding me?
I'm sure they do the fucking,
the the fights that it would be
insane.
I'm sure the people are drunk on
the sidelines without question.
I've looked at some some of
these parents that are friends
of mine and sometimes I'm.
Like.
You.
Want to ride you?
Want to tone that down a smidge?
Let me push that on my Bush
latte.
That was a great game.
I'm like, we haven't even played
yet.
Y'all have a What's the cup with
the button on the top that we
all used to use all the time.
Yeah, the shot thing.
Oh man.
They make new ones now the
button.
On the top, what are you
talking?
About Well, tell him he'll know
her secret.
He knows it was like, not
Stanley, but a smaller version
of the you could put.
It's called a shot in the top of
the glass.
You hit the button and it
releases a shot into your glass.
Flash cap.
Flash cap.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They send us a bunch of those
for the other show.
I do you fucking.
Degenerate.
And then we we called it the fun
button on the show, the fun
button.
So now they call it the fun
button.
Oh really?
Yeah, they call the fun button.
They call it the fun button now,
yeah.
Man, we used to have koozies
that were beer bongs.
Yeah, we had.
Toast.
That's right, I forgot about you
guys are out of control.
Back when we were younger.
We did have the Espinoza
cornhole tournament.
Oh, Drake.
Yeah, it was his birthday.
Koozie had a little Yeah, it was
Eric's birthday.
Happy birthday, I said.
I wished him happy birthday.
Happy birthday.
I didn't text him.
I didn't text him this year.
Everybody put the pictures of
him, so I went way back through
my photos and put up a picture
of me and him.
Yes all.
Right, well.
Seem to be the thing from the.
CB.
Was that T?
Was that?
TPTP.
From the four quarters of the
world, all the cigar industry
news you could possibly need.
The Cigar Hustler Podcast Report
with Mikey.
Pause please.
Hey, you're on the.
Hey, you're on the podcast.
Oh, OK, I found my ring.
Where was it?
As on the.
Patio.
I told you it was on the patio.
Did you look?
On the party.
Onto the lazy boy.
Under the Under the chair.
I.
Fucking knew it, those two.
Big, giant, lazy boys.
Yeah.
How are those?
How are those lazy boys,
Brittany?
They're amazing.
We fall asleep out there every
night.
It's a.
Nice, nice little nap.
Nice.
You should fall asleep in the
cheap chair.
Yeah, I mean, what's different?
For you, just more comfortable.
Wow, his head doesn't.
His head doesn't.
Well, congratulations.
I'm glad you found it.
Yeah.
Yeah, we were all on our way
over.
We were all just getting ready
to leave.
Oh wow, that's amazing because
it's been lost for a few days
now.
He just mentioned it today.
Yeah, we're planning.
Oh, oh, oh.
OK.
OK.
Yeah, right after the show, we
were on our way.
Perfect.
I love you.
Cancel the trip, guys.
Cancel the trip.
I have emptied.
I have.
I have unscrewed fucking sinks.
Oh, look at the trap thing.
Oh yeah.
Oh 'cause she didn't know where
she lost at all.
Do you have I I don't think I
ever accept the kitchen.
I guess the bathrooms that
wouldn't fit.
Yeah, I didn't think it would
either, but you know.
You gotta look anyway, just
again.
If you always knew it was under
the chair, why is it days later
now and you're just looking
under the chair?
I don't know why she, you know,
it was.
I knew it was under the chair.
It's been lost for a week and
it's.
Probably under the, I said.
It's probably under the chair,
right?
And I don't know why we didn't
look there.
I because when she said this is
how this is my process, right?
I take it off at the bed or at
the bathroom, so it would be
here.
One of those two locations.
Like maybe it's on the pipe.
Why did she take it off I?
Don't know.
My wife never takes herself.
Sometimes some woman's fingers
swell, yeah.
Could be my.
Wife never does.
I only take mine off in the
shower.
Yeah, because I saw pictures and
videos of people's old guys in
their hands have grown like over
the ring.
Really.
Yeah.
So I want to at least take it
off, you know, 1520 minutes a
day.
Well, this is Robert.
But it was a silicone.
It won't happen to that mine's.
Starting to rip?
That would move.
Starting to lose the old Super
S?
Well, where's your When's your
birthday again?
Because that's when you got it
last year.
Was it last year?
Yeah, I got a four year birthday
last year.
I thought it was the year before
that.
Might have been.
I don't.
You're right.
It was last year.
Yeah, can't remember what I got
you last year.
It wasn't.
That was.
It last year.
Oh yeah.
Because, yeah.
Yeah.
The year before that was a
helicopter.
Right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Back when we were, you know.
One upping.
One upping unlimited meat.
You gave me meat for a year.
Yeah, yeah.
You had meat for a year,
delivered every month.
He knew.
Amazing.
That was the year you got me the
phone.
Yes.
Yeah, that's right.
And now it's still covering and
I think I got AT shirt, so
that's right.
No, the red light.
We've walked it.
Back.
I got the red light.
Oh, yeah.
The red light was nice.
Yeah, that was nice.
That was nice.
All right.
News.
News.
Yes, from the four corners of
the world, all the cigar
industry news you could possibly
need.
The Cigar Hustler Podcast Report
with Mike too.
Lead story Brittany Stefan
Cabbage finds her missing ring.
Whoa.
It was under the.
Chair, as Mike always said.
I didn't always say that.
Oh.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
He said that.
Allegedly, Espinoza Premium
Cigars would like to announce
the hiring of Chrissy Stratman
as their new in house Southwest
Territory Manager for the states
of Arizona, Nevada, Colorado and
New Mexico.
Tyler is now only the number one
salesman in Florida and the rest
of the country that was not
already mentioned.
Chrissy entered the cigar
industry in 2015 working for
Hoffman Sales where she brokered
for Drew Estate, Cle Zikar and
Rocky Patel, later becoming the
in House Rep for Rocky Patel in
the southwest region.
In 2018, Eric Espinoza was
quoted.
Insane bro.
This is just another positive
sign of growth for Espinoza
Cigars.
Chrissy has worked.
It's hard to do a long quote
with him.
Hertz Chrissy was working with
some of the most recognized
brands in our industry.
We are happy to have her and we
are just going to.
We would like Eric to have
shorter quotes, please, going
forward please.
Just a bro.
Chrissy comes to us with a
wealth of experience and
knowledge, bringing Chrissy on
board.
Oh, this is Jack.
Sorry.
Do the Jack voice.
I can't do the Jack.
Can you do the Jack voice?
No, I can't do the Jack voice.
No, it's so it's it's just a
regular voice.
There's not like, you know it's.
A little deeper.
Well, it's just it's a little
quieter because he's so tall,
he.
Kind of laughs at me on those,
you know.
Right, let's see.
After a brief hiatus, returning
to this is Chrissy.
I have no idea what she sounds
like after brief hiatus
returning to.
You could do like a kind of like
AI, don't know, maybe like a job
with a Hut.
What do you think she we.
Don't know if she does, Jabba.
Who knows?
No, that might be insulting.
We're going to see we're not.
Insulting her we're.
Going to see her in a couple of
weeks I would imagine.
Do a voice you think she'd have.
I have no idea.
Yeah, let's all welcome Chrissy
to the Lozona family.
Oh.
That's her voice.
Oh.
Nice moving on, huh?
Yeah, he's moving on.
That was just released today.
I didn't have time to prepare.
Super happy.
I told Hector we would cover it
because we cover all press
releases on personnel in the
cigar industry, not like some
people.
Are we the only show that does
that?
We're the other one that does
all the personnel.
Changes nice.
Yes, OK, dab it off escort to
dismiss Gurkha's dragon lawsuit.
Dab it off Well, and who?
Dab it off.
Yes, ask the court to dismiss.
Please dismiss.
Please dismiss Gurkha's Dragon
lawsuit.
In December, Gurkha filed a
lawsuit against Davidoff over
the Davidoff Limited Edition
2024 Year of the Dragon.
Gurkha claims that Davidoff's
Year of the Dragon Cigar
violates various trademarks at
Gurkha, and the license is the
licensee of.
We own Dragon.
Now Davidoff has reported to the
responded sorry, not reported
responded to the lawsuit asking
a judge to throw it out.
Yeah, what are you guys pointing
at over there?
The lawsuit itself is the second
act of dispute, November 2022.
What's that guy's name that owns
Gherkin Hen?
Kaizade Kaizade.
Oh, we'll just go with the
Kaizade Company, Inc Filled
filed for a trademark on Year of
the Dragon for cigars Dabidoff
and dabidoff Company opposed.
A trademark, as much as a
particular trademark, is listed
as opposition pending.
The dispute has gone into detail
about other questions, such as
whether Davidoff has previously
sold the cigar called Gear the
Dragon, and whether the term
should be something that can be
trademarked.
Gurkha is owned by Kaizod.
The company said it is the
exclusive license holder for
various Kaizod owned trademarks,
such as Dragon Dragon, Fire
Dragon, Lord Dragon Slayer
Imperial Dragon, Red Dragon, and
Royal Dragon.
Also listed are Enter the
Dragon, Dragon, Ass, Year of the
Sex, Dragon, Grand Wizard,
Dragon, We are Dragons, and the
Pirate money.
Oh We are Dragons.
Oh, and the pirate money
referred to as Dragoons.
Wow.
Davidoff's has asked is that?
Last part real.
It's all real.
It's the news.
Davidoff is as Judge William P
Dittromolitus, Greek man
obviously of the US Dixture
Court of Southern District of
Florida, dismissed Gurkha Cigar
Group.
Dab it off.
Dismiss the lawsuit.
These are the two points I put.
Was Davidoff.
Wait, was that Davidoff was
actually a decent cigar and
Gurkha cigars were terrible
anyway, and it comes with steak
knives, backpack, coffee mugs,
and a dartboard.
Are they really selling cigars
at this point?
Wow.
The filing also reiterates some
of the arguments that have been
made as part of the TTAB
opposition, such as Davidoff
arguing that Year of the Dragon
is a reference to the to the
year that the cigars were
released.
So it'd be like trade marking
2024.
I I think we should trademark
dragon backpacks and then go
after Gurga.
Gurga.
Violation of the of the
trademark.
Additional names on their list
of enemies General Cigar, Haban,
Jose Say, Oliva, La Galleria,
Placencia, Rocky Patel, United
Cigars, The N Double, ACP and
DLA.
Maybe they're just bored.
I I think they just have a lot
of free time with it.
Well, Kaisa's not really working
anymore, so he's got all this
time he's not allowed to all
this time.
EP Coriglio promotes Wayne
Stoner to National Sales
Manager.
Wayne.
Wayne EP Corlio has announced
that has promoted Wayne Stoner
to the role of national sales
manager.
Stoner joined the company in
2020 as territory manager,
covering Texas, Missouri,
Kansas, Oklahoma and Arkansas.
Now he will lead the company's
sales team, which according to a
press release, has had no
turnovers in the last four
years.
Wow.
Wow.
Ike Taylor?
No.
No.
Ike KARIPIDES.
Say it again.
KARKARIP IPIDESI can't invite
you.
Every.
Name of Smith Carr Carr IP IP IP
EIDS Days Carr IP Days Wait Carr
Carr IP a Days Carr IP a days.
I carry A at the end of the
year, not fuel the growth.
Possibly fuel the growth.
No, they said he didn't.
That wasn't the reason that he
was retired.
Maybe it's time for you to
retire.
Maybe Is there a sex?
Scandal or something.
Good old sex.
Scandal.
It'll probably come out later.
Or maybe maybe next week.
I don't think it'll come out.
What camera?
Oh, like I looked.
All the cameras were off.
I didn't know what was going on.
None of you guys were going back
and.
Forth, it was switching probably
from 1:00.
Of the I don't think that there.
I don't think it'll ever come
out.
If there was, it might.
Have done this show.
We cover.
All the personnel stuff.
Maybe, maybe on the Patreon?
Ike has amassed deep expertise
in the various facets of the
premium cigar industry during
his 28 year career, said Glenn
Wolfson, CEO of Drew Estate, in
a press release.
You think Ike's doing it for
less money?
That probably.
I would have called Davidson.
How much are you making Budden?
Yeah, I didn't know.
Where you at where?
What's your number?
Where are you at here?
I know what what's his name was
making when he left?
So what are you making?
Right, it was time at Druid
states Cara Ripadies worked at
Nat Sherman International as the
Executive Director of Premium
Cigar Sales.
Well, his career also includes
stops at Barclay, Rex Cousin,
Cigars, House of Oxford and
Miami Cigar and Company.
Oxford.
Oxford.
I feel like I can get a job in
any of these places.
I've never heard of any of these
places.
That's why all these weeks,
there's another one here too.
You've been in with this company
right away.
Are these Are these places
trademarked?
Give me a the dragon.
Just Dragons.
Big number.
No Dragons than anything A.
Huge.
Number Allison Trainer departs
Hooton Young Omar Fernandez to
consult on Cigar Division.
Really.
Hooton Young has announced a
change in personnel for Cigar
Division as Allison Trainer has
departed the company and Omar
Fernandez will be providing the
console.
The consultant services to the
company in her place.
So they have not hired him,
they're just paying him a lot.
Of money.
You still there?
That's what you want to be my
you?
Want to be a consultant?
You want.
To be a consultant.
I'll do it for a consulting.
Fee.
No real commitment, but they pay
you, right?
Perfect.
Right.
And I'll sit here at home.
Right.
I'll sit here at home and call
in ideas.
Let's.
Take a cake consulting.
Job.
You can zoom once a week with
them.
We can consult.
About that I'll see Fernandez is
currently the national sales
manager for premium tobacco at
Integra Boost, and he will fill
Trainer's role via a consulting
agreement with the Hooton Young
while still maintaining his
position at Integra Boots.
So he's double dipping.
I like it.
I like the hustle.
He will be focusing largely on
helping Hooton Young continue to
grow the sales, OK.
You know, Palmer, you could give
Mikey a job you just put in the
news.
Yeah.
Who do you want to work for
here?
Next week's lead story?
I don't.
Know Big one, Big one.
We could make up a
circumference.
Nobody checks this stuff.
The Davidoff who and Young drew
a state division.
That's.
Right.
I love it.
You could be in charge of the
Dragons at Gerkin.
I can run the Dragons.
The director of all Dragons.
Give me a consulting fee for the
dragon.
I am the dragon guy.
I'm the dragon.
I'm the dragon.
Guy.
That dragon.
Guy, this is going.
To get a little weird two
Dragons.
Christoph has announced 2
products in a redesigned
existing line that will be
showing off at the 2024 PCA
Convention and Trade show in
late March.
The Hug.
Now that the TPE is over, the
PCA announcements are coming
out.
Headlining the new release is a
Kristoff 20th Anniversary, which
is a blend that uses Brazilian
at a Baraka rapper, an
Indonesian binder, and fillers
from Nicaragua and Pennsylvania
being offered in four sizes,
blah blah blah.
See, the Kristoff 20th
Anniversary is being added as a
regular production line, and
it's slated to begin shipping in
April.
The company will also be
offering an exclusive cigar for
retailers who attend the trade
show, the Kristoff PCA 2024
Signature Series, formerly
called the TPE 2024 Signature
Series.
Oh.
Mexican San Andreas Rapper
Tapping Indigene Binder
Nicaraguan Fillers 6 1/2 by 54,
blah blah blah blah blah blah
blah.
Finally, oh, we're running out
of time.
Lucion PCA Exclusive The 2020
Lucion release.
The Lucion PCA 2020 exclusive
only.
There was no trade show in PCA
2020, so the cigar is now the
2024 PCA exclusive.
Oh, it's aged well.
Yes, it's aged well.
It's a habato, right?
While there was APCA 2021
convention trade show, there was
no exclusive cigar.
There.
I bet it's a habato.
Let's see available retailers
when the cigar was announced.
Oh, when the cigar was
announced, it was 1 aspect that
stood out.
The cigars made at RAL Races,
races, races, races.
Cubanas, a cigar factory in
Honduras that was once home to
Delusion Product.
However, over the last decade,
Illusion has moved nearly all
its production line from Race E
to Agronosus, Factory and
Estelle, where they pay more.
Will you pay a premium?
All right, this week's price
increases.
OK.
This week's This week's Patina
cigars.
I thought I got a news break.
I just came on my phone.
Patina Cigars don't believe
price increase from the core
lines.
Patina Cigars have been a price
increase of four of its core
lines.
I thought that was and the
change is going to effect
February 1st.
Patina Connecticut and Patina
Bano lines are both going up.
5%.
Oh right on the no Ding, Ding
Ding, while the Patina Maduro
and Patina Sumatra lines are
seeing a smaller increase of. 3%
two Damn 5050 I was.
Reading fast to get to the the
main story of the day, Luciano
Cigars, now underrated, line
shipping today.
What?
Was it underrated?
That's what it's called.
I didn't make that up.
That's what it's called.
Luciano cigars begin shipping
Underrated, its newest cigar
line that the company says a
result of creating the
unexpected from other people's
stuff.
Underrated uses a Mexican San
Andreas rapper, Nicaraguan
binder, and someone else's.
I mean unique filler that
contains Connecticut broadleaf
and Ecuadorian HVA leaves, both
of which are more commonly used
as rappers.
Then there's a meteo tempo.
It's got so much in it.
Medio tempo for Nicaraguans,
Pueblo, Nuebo region.
The leaves that come leaves that
come from the very top of the
tobacco plant are known for its
distinctive flavor profile, but
the Medio Tempo is unique in its
own right, as it came from the
2020-2021 crop.
So it's aged.
Year, which is Hanford by heavy
rains and forced the tobacco to
come out in the earlier plan.
This is Harvard, said blah blah
blah.
The company calls the profile
medium full in strength with a
robust body that captivates
without overwhelming, while the
flavor has a bold richness as
well as the sweetness referred
to as candied.
So it's a strong, it's a strong.
Medium light fill that that's
got a full very full flavor
that's very sweet and fruity
it's.
Kind of good.
It's nice.
From other people.
From other people, the story of
Underrated is about surprise.
Hey, this is mine.
Now the unexpected pleasure
discovering something remarkable
where one least expects it, said
Luciano Morales, president and
founder of Luciano's Cigars, in
a press release.
Underrate is offering four
sizes, all of which are priced
under $9.
The company said this price was
ceiling challenges, the essence
of value and it's designed to be
an affordable luxury cigar which
is easy to do when you using
someone elses tobacco After
months of seeing, I don't care
about the months, ingenious
lifestyle, blah blah blah.
The cigars are produced in
Luciano cigar factorously
Nicaragua, the Luciano Cigar
factory in Dominican Republic
and Luciano Cigar Factory in
Donnelly, Honduras.
That was a full page of a news.
It was very not a Florida story.
Alright, good.
Wrap this up.
The call came at 4:27 AM
Thursday from a Tampa apartment
complex.
There's a kangaroo in my
apartment complex in Residential
911.
We've had a kangaroo before.
Yeah, all the time.
I don't marry a kangaroo, but we
have everything here.
I love Florida.
According to the Hillsborough
County Sheriff's Office, the
kangaroo was first spotted near
Fowler Ave. and the 56th St. and
Temple Terrace by the time
deputies arrived.
The seven-year old kangaroo
named Hopper.
What else did you call a
kangaroo?
I mean had made his way to Arbor
Point Circle about a mile away.
Around 5:00 AM, the patrol
deputies, K9 and aviation units
attempted to get the kangaroo
and doing a closed pool area so
they could usher him into a
trailer about 45 minutes later,
put up a good flight.
Hopper was secure from there.
The Sheriff's Office said Hopper
was inspected while the Florida
Fish and Wildlife Conservation
Commission tried to track down
the kangaroo's owners.
He had no collar on.
A spokesman for the Sheriff's
Office was enabled to provide
the name of the kangaroo's
owners but said they had been
propped.
They had the proper paperwork
for him and that they even have
a second kangaroo sometimes.
Kangaroos break out.
Sometimes, or they could jump.
They jump over to fence hoppers.
The wildlife Commission requires
Floridians to obtain a permit to
keep wildlife as a personal pet.
The personal The personal permit
allows the pet owner to keep the
pet at a specific address,
travel and take it with him to
the vet.
The kangaroo has been fed and
cared for by our deputies.
Bump it up and up it up.
The owners are driving to a
range right now to retrieve
their kangaroo.
I watched Aladdin with Teddy.
Which one?
The original.
There's no other Latin.
Oh, the cartoony one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And she had said to me, I want a
tiger.
Wow.
And I'm thinking how can I make
this work?
Oh, you can buy a tiger.
Yeah, Greg was getting one
several years ago.
Greg wanted a tiger.
He's looking at the Tigers.
We found a place that sells
tigers.
Yeah, you just have to have a
certain enclosed area in your
backyard.
Oh yeah, he's qualified because
he has a bigger backyard.
I don't think he's just too
small.
Well, you have the vinyl fence
and the tiger just.
Let's knock that down.
Just keep it.
What?
You need to get is this dog.
It's.
I saw it the other day.
It's called an alibi dog.
ALBI.
That's the the the breed name.
Yeah things huge, weighs over
200 lbs.
Really.
It looks like a Great Pyrenees,
the white ones.
But you can ride it.
It's huge, but it loves children
and it's good with families.
I like that.
Does it look like a tiger?
No, but they showed it with a
tiger.
They That's what it was bred to
fight tigers and bears.
Oh really?
Yes.
Oh, Alibi.
The tiger walked up to it and it
smacked it, and the tiger turned
away and went the other way.
You know what?
I'm good.
I'm good.
I think I'm fine.
You're very big.
My mother told me about dogs
like you.
You're quite.
Right.
Tanner lost his dog.
It was gone for 2 1/2 days.
Yeah, he found it last night and
like, right before the Super
Bowl went off.
Really.
Yeah.
Where was it?
It was with the.
Kangaroo.
No, no.
It had gotten loose and ran
away.
He doesn't know where it was,
but he just.
He spent all day yesterday at
this elementary school where the
dog had disappeared from when he
was walking it, and eventually
it came back.
What he needs to do is put an
air tag on the dog's collar.
Oh, I didn't think about an air
tag.
Air tag.
How far can an air tag go are?
You kidding me?
It goes forever.
Does it?
Yeah, I didn't know it.
Yeah, you know, oh.
Can it really?
So like if I had an air tag on
my luggage and it was lost, went
to another country, it would
show me it's.
A.
It's over here.
Oh, I put an air tag on my kids
sweatshirt.
Well, they're children.
And I was like, you fucking left
it at school again.
Oh.
Thank.
You, so you're leaving it all
because?
They make, they make dog collars
where their tag places on them,
I'm sure.
I'm sure.
Yeah, I'll have to mention that
there.
You go.
You're welcome.
Thank you.
All right.
This concludes episode number.
320, we're going into Patreon
320.
That's right.
Right now works so well.
All right, we got to go.
Bye, bye.
Thank you.
I have time guys.
You want to do it another day?
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Show Notes
On this week's episode of A Cigar Hustlers Podcast (Episode 320), we dive into the world of cigars, exploring legal disputes, industry promotions, and an unexpected kangaroo encounter in Florida.
Davidoff vs. Gurkha Legal Battle: We discuss Davidoff's move to dismiss Gurkha's Dragon lawsuit, unraveling the legal intricacies of this high-stakes dispute.
E.P. Carrillo's Promotion: Wayne Stoner's elevation to National Sales Manager at E.P. Carrillo is under the spotlight as we analyze its potential impact on the cigar industry.
Drew Estate's Sales Shake-up: Explore the recent shift at Drew Estate as Ike Karipides steps in to replace David Lazarus as the Senior Vice President of Sales.
Changes at Hooten Young: Allison Trainer's departure from Hooten Young and Omar Fernandez's role as a consultant in the cigar division are dissected, shedding light on the evolving landscape of the industry.
Kristoff's Triple Release: Kristoff's plans to launch the Twentieth Anniversary blend, a new PCA exclusive, and revamped Vengeance packaging at PCA 2024 are explored, offering a glimpse into the brand's future.
Illusione PCA Exclusive 2023: Get the insider's scoop on Illusione's exclusive offering for PCA 2023, uncovering the unique elements that make it a must-try for cigar enthusiasts.
Price Increases at Patina Cigars: We break down the recent price adjustments at Patina Cigars, delving into the percentage changes on core lines and discussing the potential implications for consumers.
Luciano Cigars' Underrated Line: Discover the latest release from Luciano Cigars, as their new Underrated Line hits the market, promising a unique and captivating smoking experience.
Florida's Kangaroo Caper: In a bizarre twist, we share a captivating story from Florida, where a kangaroo named Hopper creates a stir in a Tampa apartment complex. Join us as we unravel the events leading to Hopper's secure capture and the hunt for his mysterious owners.
Tune in for an episode packed with industry insights, legal drama, and a dash of unexpected wildlife adventure. A must-listen for cigar aficionados and enthusiasts alike
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