February 27, 2024· 1h 6m

Cigar Hustlers Podcast Episode 322 Dress Code

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Welcome to the Cigar Hustlers

Podcast Episode 322.

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Here we are.

Here we are, we have the 2nd, we

have the second arm.

We have the second arm.

I just have to get it set up.

We have the team MU arm, I have

the team, yeah, the team we're.

Gonna go to camera one and look

at the team MU arm.

Team Team.

Way more inexpensive than the

luxurious.

And it looks and it looks just

in the box.

Between the box that came in it.

Looks way more inexpensive.

Was there a box?

Yeah, barely, barely a box.

Yeah, but I gotta fix the cord.

Sent in a bag.

It works, and it was a third of

the cost of that thing.

I like mine.

A third you?

Do a third easily 1/3.

Wow.

Maybe even less.

Well, so I had mine what a week

ago.

Years came last.

Week.

OK, well, we'll see which one

lasts longer.

Oh, that's.

Coming right.

You know, Yeah, these springs

seem a little precarious here.

And it's gone.

And it did it hit you in the

head.

Some camera does look a lot

cheaper.

Oh Yep, there it goes.

No longer.

And we're back.

And we're back And we're back.

Well, the iPad is nice and

clean.

That's not a problem this week.

How much was our Wi-Fi?

$12.00 as well.

Team with Wi-Fi.

The Wi-Fi is very expensive down

here.

When?

We start setting this up in the

in my garage we'll have perfect

Wi-Fi.

Nice.

That's where we're heading now.

You never know.

No, we just, you know, when we

go broke, we just don't pay

rent.

We just mutiny.

I'm not allowed back to Palmer's

garage.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, why not.

He had a drinking problem there

one time.

You fucked that up.

Well, it wasn't.

I had a drinking problem.

I'm still allowed in the garage.

It was a we.

I'm still allowed in the grouch.

That had to be early on in this

friendship.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, way in a bit.

Yeah way.

In a way, way, in the beginning

we guys are way more jaded

towards each other at this

point, you know.

It it by the end of the show I'm

going to keep.

Dude, you keep adjusting it I.

Mean well, because it keeps

going down.

I mean, it was a moment that's.

What you get for 12 bucks dum

dum.

Well, it lasted all about.

We didn't have another $80.00 at

the moment when I go. 3 minutes.

Struggle is real out here.

I was watching a a podcast on

Instagram.

Like, a quick clip.

Yeah, and let's listen to these

guys.

Am I with bigger budget?

Hold on.

I was, I was listening to these

guys and I'm thinking to myself,

man, you guys are just fucking

oblivious.

What you're talking about, it's

just fucking stupid.

There's a cigar show.

Yeah.

Cigar.

Yeah.

I mean, these guys, you know,

they're in the industry.

Oh, they should.

Know they should know.

But they don't.

It's just like they're just so

huffing on the Main St.

You put it way high then by the

end.

Of the show you go.

Can you?

I mean, you're kind of stressing

me out.

I'm not gonna lie.

There we go.

All right, There you go.

See if it goes OK.

Perfect.

But now it's covering my face

again.

It sort of defeats the same

thing.

Yeah.

I'm gonna give you the 80 bucks,

but we're gonna get you one of

these.

All right, I may be broke, but

fuck it.

I want you.

I want you to have a good time.

We'll be.

I'm having a good time.

I like playing with it.

It's it's a little novelty thing

and we rethink the rethink The

Advertiser not, not.

Advertising.

No, no.

We're rolling.

We're rolling this way.

This is how we roll.

So I watched them and I was

listening to them.

You know, I'm like, yeah,

there's just no, no, Nope, Nope.

No, nothing.

What they were saying was

stupid.

Yeah.

Was a sports, but man did they

look good.

They had good video.

They had good mic.

We sound really well.

Yeah, yeah, they had it was, it

was a good video on Instagram.

Like, man, that's nice.

Nice video.

Our video's OK.

Our video looks good, Nice,

clean and sharp.

You can't see who it is, he bad

mouthed.

Them do we know I.

Don't want to.

I'm not really bad mouthing.

I mean if I saw them I'd be.

I would say, hey man, your

videos are great.

You're like you guys just ride

the fucking mainstream Dick too

hard, man.

You know, like you just you just

so.

I'm in a couple of podcast

groups and this guy was wanting

help with his editing and he

went through this long list of

his stages of what he does when

he edits a show.

I had no idea what the fuck he

was talking about.

Oh yeah, we just had to know.

Yeah, like sometimes I have to

dub the sound in for the volume,

but other than that, it's pretty

much done when I get finished.

I think I were not having those

problems.

And he's going, I just there.

Should I move there?

Should.

Have a fade, but you know what

the difference to those do you?

You have this board really well

done.

Well, that's why he told him

too.

I go we have a Rd.

Caster board that adds all the

special effects as we go because

he goes back in and adds those

after.

The Oh, yeah, no, this guy's got

to be a pain in the.

Ass.

I mean, if we went, you know.

Just hit the button, right?

You just hit the button, then we

have a good laugh.

I laugh, He laughed.

The toaster laughed.

And shot the toaster.

Shot the toaster.

No.

I have something to play but I I

don't know where to put it in.

Here's a nice piece of shit, no?

No, no, no.

I have a new one.

So, you know, on the last

Patreon, we we we talked about

the new Pennsylvania.

Yes, I just, I just messaged

Skip.

He's probably still asleep.

Oh, but, like, I really feel

like we need to talk about this

cigar a little more.

Yeah.

Well, it's because we talked

about it all on the Patreon last

time.

Yeah, but I want to get.

On the regular.

Show Want to get Michael or Skip

on the phone?

Oh, I think lightweight, heavy

did a great job.

Yeah, I know.

I I understand that.

But that was for the Patreon.

I'd like to get one of the.

Oh, I got you.

OK, who's he calling?

He's calling Michael.

Yeah, he's probably doing push

ups or something.

Jumping rope.

Yeah, jumping rope.

Red lighting.

He jumps rope.

Sure he does, yeah.

Got a weighted jump rope.

Does all the tricks with a back

and forth lasso around his head

and everything.

Is this why he's making the

coffee?

No.

No, that's why he's red lighting

in his red light studio.

Well, you recently worked out

with Michael Rosales, he's.

Not taking your calls.

Anymore I'm.

I'm trying real hard.

Did he call you back after last

week?

No, he did.

He did.

It went on like Thursday and

you're like, there's no show on.

Thursday this guy let's.

See if you call Jamie.

So Rosales has a whole studio

now I'm.

Going to call skip.

He has a big red light thing.

Yeah.

Like on billions.

Probably.

He's got a cryo chamber.

Right, all that stuff.

Oh, be careful with you.

That gets locked up you freezes

up at night.

Well, better not piss off,

Jamie.

Right that thing out.

He's not answering either.

Wow call back.

Lightweight, heavy call.

Lightweight, heavy guy, the guy

answers.

I answered the phone on two

rings.

Hey, is Rosales said next to

you?

Can you see Rosales or Skip?

I want the damn phone.

Well, Skip did have that lasagna

last night.

He might be sleeping kind of

heavy.

Didn't see that, yes.

Yeah.

How does he have access to

anything he wants to make down

there?

There's got to be some kind of

problem getting certain things

you would think.

What are you talking about food

wise?

No skip.

What's your pro?

What?

What can?

I mean he he made a lasagna.

Can you get lasagna noodles in

Nicaragua?

Can you you can make lasagna?

Noodles I.

Don't think he makes from.

In San Juan del Sur, I'm sure

it's fairly expensive.

Oh, that's right.

He's not in and.

Now in Esta Lee right?

Right I.

Forgot he's in a major city now.

You.

Can find yourself on an

adventure Looking for Fritos?

Yeah.

Yeah, Fritos, that was.

That was that was rough, I mean.

I couldn't find lasagna noodles

in China anywhere.

I don't.

Think no, you're in China.

Well, he's in Nicaragua.

Not like you know, but Italian

mode.

No, but I would say that, you

know, he's in spots where it's,

you know.

Well, San Juan del Sur, I can

understand.

It's more of a metropolitan

area.

That's where rich people go to.

You can't.

Get lasagna in China.

You can't get the lasagna

noodles.

Not if you went to the grocery

store.

You can get a live frog.

You can't get lasagna noodles.

They make everything for us.

They don't make that.

Well, they might, but, you know,

not in their grocery store.

I'm really excited about the

scar, man.

It was, really.

It was good.

It was really good.

You know, I went back and smoked

a regular CRO mag, the exact

same cigar in the regular CRO

mag, Totally different.

It was totally different, but I

enjoyed it though, which

normally I don't like the CRO

mags.

It's edgier the the original.

Yeah, it.

Is edgier.

This one's going to cater to a

lot of people.

That's what you had said, yes.

You know, yeah, a little bit of

Patreon info there, I guess, but

I'm just really excited about

the scar and.

Apparently I saw your your your

long post on his Facebook with

all the users.

He's obviously using the AI now

too.

By the way, you didn't notice

all those?

I'm just going to Photoshop that

painting.

Yeah, I was going to grab that

one with these drawing and I was

going to do like a stick figure

with Skip's head on it.

That's a good idea.

That's kind of where my head

goes, I don't, you know.

You know what's funny is there's

there been a lot of PCA posts.

Yes.

And there was one where Tony

Gomez got proposed to his

girlfriend.

Yeah, I didn't see them.

Yeah.

And he's like, oh, crazy things

happened to PCA, blah blah blah.

And like, everybody went nuts

and whatever.

And there's 75,000.

Congratulations, right?

And I wrote in the comment

section I never thought John

Wick would love again because he

fucking looks like John Wick to

me.

Oh.

So I'm Tony Gomez.

Yeah, he does look like, yeah.

And I got some likes and some

laughs.

Like, like that's I'm just.

I don't know, I'm retarded.

No, I think about all that

stupid shit.

You know I'm well.

Shirtless Mike put a picture of

him and AJ Fernandez.

Yeah, and I commented on it.

I go right when you walked away,

he said in Spanish.

Why he don't wear shirt?

Why?

And I've got like 9 likes in.

No camisa, right?

Why he not wear shirt?

Why he not be Chinese?

He's Chinese, yeah.

Well, I said.

I said in Spanish.

In Spanish, right?

You know where?

Sure.

Why?

You know where?

Sure.

Why?

He know where sure why?

He know where.

Oh, big nipples.

The pepperoni.

Boy, nowhere.

Sure.

Grande in the police.

So and now like the now half

wheels covering the fact that

they're fucking just doling out

these $25,000 fucking humidors

that they're auctioning away.

Oh, I saw that, yeah.

And I didn't.

Read that story I saw.

That I start commenting on them

like like on Wi-Fi about Wi-Fi.

Oh wait, the big no.

You're trolling.

Yeah, yeah.

Welcome Mother Mike, and welcome

to the party.

Out of just sheer board and I'm

like, fucking all right?

25 GS for a fucking humidor.

They raised a lot of money at

well, is it pro Sabor or pro

cigar?

There's two different names or

Sabor cigar in Dominican.

Pero Sabor right and pro cigar.

Isn't that the same thing?

No one's Dr., One's Nicaragua.

Oh, so which one?

Just roast cigars.

The one that just happened?

Mm hmm.

Oh, OK, good.

Then I have that correct.

That is, you are correct, Sir.

Are they ratchings?

Ratchings.

What kind of what kind of human

what?

Do you mean ratchings?

It would El Septimo or

something.

I don't.

Know no.

Like so Monte Cristo does one.

Oh yeah, somebody's doing the

Year of the Dragon. 10 chi does

one.

Oh, yeah, yeah, they're they're

they're trying.

Well, it's not a They're trying

to stop them.

Not a cigar, though.

It's not a cigar.

Trying to cease them.

Cease them to cease.

I think I saw Kai.

Said.

I'm surprised Abe didn't get to

see some decisions.

I'm pretty sure Kaisa just took

the took the stage when when the

You're the Dragon service by

humor came out, he's like stop.

He's not there.

Yeah.

You know, like they're.

Foreign He's probably not there.

He doesn't like them.

He.

Doesn't like those type of

peoples.

Oh my goodness, so.

Is your ad running tonight on?

How about that cigar?

Are you keeping the same ad?

Yeah, the ad's the same.

Right now.

The ad's the same.

Gotcha.

I'm curious.

No, no, we talked about it last

week.

I was just.

Curious.

I'll change it.

I did have a conversation with

Garrett over the weekend.

Did.

You.

Oh, Oh, yeah.

This is Garrett Robinson,

formerly of How about that

cigar?

And my list this year would have

included a Pastani, without a

doubt, he said.

Matt, we used to not let it.

Wouldn't let him.

Oh really?

So yeah, now he is free.

So his list would include a

Pastan.

He was.

His hands were tied, yes.

Well, I can't believe Matt would

do that.

I just wanted, Garrett told me.

We were talking is.

That the workout guy.

Garrett, you know.

No, Matt.

Matt Ty, the guy that runs the

show.

How about that cigar?

Yeah, the ball had one.

No, no.

Oh, that's.

The other one?

No, That's Billy Blanks.

That's Tae Bo.

Get it right.

What?

Are you doing the black guy?

Boxing is the black.

Guy oh, Matt Ty is the one that

had the birthday.

Oh yeah, everybody, everybody.

Has birthday.

Once a year, if they're alive.

Oh no, Michael had a birthday at

No, that was PCA last year.

Yeah, Garrett sang to.

Garrett's the one that used to

that went to work for Don

Dortea.

Yeah, Garrett sang to Matt Tye.

OK, yeah.

Oh, did he?

Yeah.

Oh, I'll try it.

It was his birthday last.

Year.

Yeah, in an awkward fashion.

It was awkward.

There should have been.

Was there a cake?

There should have been.

Some I don't remember seeing any

Didn't see any footage of this.

Thing together?

Yeah, strange.

Well, what a birthday at Don

Dorte, huh?

Garrett and Matt, OK.

I got to tell you here.

It's no longer there, so

birthdays have ceased.

You know, if I don't know if I

would have been capable of

mentally handling it if the scar

got cigar the year across the

board the way that I thought it

would.

Why?

At that would have been too

much.

Yeah, I think that.

He doesn't take praise well I.

Couldn't have handled that.

Maybe.

Maybe now, maybe this year, I'll

I'll be better at it. 02024

yeah.

Will it be counted in 2024?

'Cause I have the new release.

Oh, the new one you meant, not

an old one.

A new one.

Yes, yes.

I was thinking the old cigars.

Aha.

Right.

Well, I just did.

Well, you released it so early,

though it might.

By the time we get to the end,

they're like they don't forget

what it is.

Moved on, right.

I'll send, I'll send.

Refresh your emails.

Let's let us not forget to the

video.

That's right.

Let us let me remind all of you.

But the cigar that came out in

the first quarter of the year,

that never gets any appraise or

affection.

We had to contact that one guy.

The one was the one guy.

He's so good at this, that one

guy.

Is he the guy that?

Is he the one with the birthday?

The one with the.

Birthday.

The one with the birthday was

about asking if he talked to

him.

The guy who the.

Guy, the guy that charged us

$400.00 for the review.

Yeah, that guy.

The guy charged the party.

What was his name?

Was it like Wong Charm?

We never, we never said his

name.

Yeah, wasn't that on Patreon?

Yes.

Yeah, yeah.

You guys should all get on this

Patreon so we can start talking

about all the he.

Needs.

He needs a red light too, I

think.

Over there.

He needs a red light.

Somebody needs a nap.

Nap.

So football was kind of messy

this week.

Got rained down on one, we lost

the other game.

Yeah, wouldn't.

Did it rain over the weekend?

It did.

It didn't.

Out here.

Yeah, it.

Didn't rain over here, Didn't.

No, it didn't rain over.

Here.

Oh, it was like a swell.

He shut everything down at 7:00.

Oh, at night.

It might have rained at night.

I don't know once.

It gets dark.

And then yeah, you know, I'm

dark.

You're asleep.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, I'm in the house.

Past your bedtime.

Most certainly, yeah.

And then you go keep going on

these Facebook rants and how

you're getting up at 2:00 in the

morning and.

All the one day I did get up at

2:00 in the morning, but I

didn't go.

To bed because you go to sleep.

Early.

No, I we go to bed.

But I don't usually go to sleep

till midnight.

At least it's somewhere between

10 and midnight.

So you got a solid 2.

Yes, solid 2 hours at night.

Yeah, right.

My ass was dragging all up

there.

I can tell when he goes to

sleep, all the comments stop on

Facebook.

Nice.

Well, Saturday for me was I

didn't know what the fuck I did.

You said basketball.

We had basketball.

Yeah, we did basketball.

And then we went and saw a

couple of the like we saw Levi

play baseball and we watched

Rayu play my, my, my kids

friends play basketball and

stuff.

You know, that's nice of you.

Support them a little bit,

right?

You there for the friends?

Sure, it's nice of you.

Are you still cold punching?

Yeah.

He's got a freezer in his

garage.

What else he can do with it?

Put meat in it.

I don't know.

I mean, sometimes these things

fade away.

Well, yeah, I mean, yeah, but

he's bought something huge for

that.

We'd hear that it was for sale

first.

Well, just how it works.

Like the rowing machine, the

murder bike.

I have the motorbikes though.

Oh, do you?

Yeah, Oh, the squat rack.

I never got a squat rack.

I thought you had one during

COVID.

No, I had AI.

Mean.

Technically, he's got a squat

rack in the garage.

I do Rack, yeah.

You could You could put a a

weight system on it.

On the rack above.

Yeah, it's supposed to hold it.

That guy's dead to me.

Yeah, I haven't even seen him.

Where has he been?

I don't know.

He's power washing apparently

now has a power wash business.

Completely rebranded.

No, no 'cause every once in a

while I see a rack above thing

Have power wash above.

I haven't deleted him on

Facebook yet.

I haven't got to that level,

but.

Miscellaneous above.

It's so randomly on, I figured

Nah, I just deal with.

It.

I saw him at Home Depot, I

think, like a month ago.

Oh.

Did he say?

You walk around and touch all

the racks.

Go look.

All these are racks above too.

Look at this.

But they're orange.

I think, I think it was during

Christmas.

Oh, that's been a few.

More Oh, that's when you were

trying to get the the daddy long

legs a little blow up then.

The.

The Jack Scully or whatever,

yeah.

I had to return that thing.

Right, I had broken ankle.

I thought they got the parts.

Yeah, I just returned.

It, oh, just gave up.

Yeah.

I thought you returned it and

then decided you didn't return

it and then you guys ordered the

parts.

Parts never came.

Yeah, no, they didn't get back

to us, you know?

So I said fuck this, I just

returned it and then I think

another three weeks later.

So it took like 8 weeks for them

to respond to our e-mail, right?

Like Oh yeah, just send us more

details as to what parts you

need.

I'm like, fuck you two months

later.

Right.

Well, I'm very busy. 2 #8 screws

some popsicles like.

Hey, fuck that.

You know, I'll just buy another

one next year.

There you go.

Just buy Greg's.

He'll sell it cheap. 100 bucks.

It won't be anything Greg says

Sells is not cheap.

Greg's was leaning too when I

saw it.

That's.

Probably the way he installed

it, to be honest.

Yeah.

Huh.

And then Sunday or Sunday, you

know, just.

No football on or anything.

Very sad.

We went to church again Saturday

night.

You went the church?

Yeah, we've been.

Going journey in well, I don't

want to say.

The name Don't Stop Believing.

No, he has the smart damn girl.

Yeah.

OK, No, no, no.

I have some concerns, but I

don't want to.

Now that I've said the name, I

can't talk about it.

It's my wife likes it so.

You have some concerns about the

church.

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Well.

I do, you know.

What's going about on the

Patreon?

I'll do it on the Patreon.

What's going on?

Hey, what's going on?

Because she really likes.

It hey, what's going on in your

life where all of a suddenly you

need like you need a solid.

She wants, she's been wanting to

go and I just go with her, Yeah.

Yeah.

It's not me.

Do you the cracker?

No, it's not that type of

church.

Should you not a cracker, you

you got to have the.

Jesus, Yeah, I know.

No, no, no snacks.

During the day?

No, no.

No snacks in the midway through

the moment.

It's not that it's close to the

end, right?

You get the G's that close to

the end.

The crayon cherries juice.

Yeah, Nope, not so.

Oh, you know, I did play

basketball this on Sunday.

Oh, you.

Did, Yeah.

We cleaned out the garage.

Nice.

Yeah.

Throw away a bunch of shit.

I keep blowing out my calves.

Blew out my left calf now.

Playing basketball.

Yeah.

Oh, the jumpy.

Right before PCA.

Yeah, I got to.

I'll do a lot of sitting.

I don't know what it is.

Can Nick Malilo carry you

around?

I don't see.

Oh.

Yeah 'cause you did carry.

You know, I won't cry like a

baby like Nick.

I'll just.

Deal with it.

I'll just limp.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, I mean, in fairness, his

wasn't a blown out cow.

Yeah, gout.

Oh rich man disease.

Is that what that is?

That's what they call it.

Yeah, you tell me.

That you're meeting really rich

food and drinking expensive

liquors and wines and.

Stuff.

Oh really?

I'll never have that problem.

Right.

You'll never have that problem

at all.

What they used to call it, they

used to call a rich man the rich

so.

What's the poor man's a blister,

yeah.

You just get blistered.

I'll get fucking a blister on

your butt from your I'll fitting

Jews.

I'll get athletes.

Foot The cobbler's got the worst

set of shoes.

Cobbler's.

Kids have the worst shoes.

Wow.

The rich man's disease.

That's what it's called.

If you Google rich man disease,

you'll get gout.

I got a Google is.

Go ahead, you better hurry

'cause it's almost time for

Phil's fun facts, I mean.

He's not doing, you know, like

he doesn't do events, right.

He just just kind of hangs out

of that one spot, I guess.

He changes the name of his cigar

just for the hell of it.

We have had.

To we have that we have that to

cover in store so.

There had to be something there.

Somebody had to say hey.

No, according to the story, Nah.

It's just it's not really

getting into.

People don't understand what it

is.

Listen, it's like they don't

just can't do anything.

When you come from Drew Estate,

right, you learn to add bullshit

to your stories.

She just changed the narrative,

right?

Right.

You know what I mean?

Like, you know, like like if you

leave Jewish state and your wife

cheats on you, you probably say

something like, no, I just let

her fuck other dudes.

Like that's you know what I

mean?

Like, no, it's, you know, no,

it's.

Not cheating.

It's a thing I enjoy.

I don't like to, I like to

watch.

No, I'm just saying that's

that's that's, you know.

Jonathan Master.

There's there's always some

type.

Of doctor with the employees.

I'm going to need to sign this

document before you start

working here.

If you get married, I get to

bang your wife on on the.

Wedding day I saw it on TV.

Grant them it is my noble.

Right.

It is my noble right.

Oh boy.

Well, because you're going to

adjust your arm there.

Listen because.

I decided.

I decided to sit back a little

bit.

I have a tendency to always

adjust mine.

Right.

You know, last week you kept

sitting back and everything.

Your posture Posture is worse

with that microphone.

It's well, I'm back to where I

normally.

Am slumping.

Last week I was.

Super chill.

Yeah, I was curious.

How much slumping you can get

away with?

No, it wasn't.

It wasn't a question of how much

slumping I can get away with.

It was more of a question of,

like, brain flow.

Oh, so if I was relaxed and I

sat back a little bit more and I

and I had that kind of approach,

how would I be?

How would I respond in

conversation?

Would it, would it be more

relaxed?

Would I have you know?

Would the response be more

relaxed if you were?

More relaxed.

What were the results?

I felt about the same.

Yeah, it seemed the same.

Yeah.

Well, we've been doing this for

six years.

It's almost what.

Is the same.

It's almost well, what?

I mean, I'm pretty genuine with

what I say all the time, right?

I just feel like, you know, if I

had tried to, I don't know, take

a step back, would my thoughts

be more processed with, you

know, would I have a little bit

more time in my respect?

Would I would I articulate

differently?

Wouldn't know.

Like, I don't know, is.

This with the alphabet I'm.

No, I'm just the type of

psychopath that always analyzes

and looks at everything that I

do.

I'm just that type of a person.

Did you watch the show?

You should watch the show.

I can.

I can watch the show.

No, you should watch last week

to see that they would have the

new mic.

Yeah, to see how you looked.

I mean now.

Even something you wouldn't,

you're fine.

Now back sitting at where?

Literally laying down.

Yeah, last week you were.

Here I was back there.

Right, but your shoulders were

down.

You didn't look as professional

or as intimidating as.

Normal.

Well, hey, I mean, you know

what?

I'm trying to wind that back a

little bit too.

What?

Know you stopped wearing a white

shirt.

Because it's like, hey, how are?

You It didn't work for him.

He was still angry.

Like, hey, how are you?

I'm like, I'm good.

Like, whoa, calm down.

White shirts are so hard to

keep.

Bright white.

Yeah, it turned great.

Kind of quick.

Yeah, they do.

I have one of my closet I've

never worn because I like the

color.

I don't.

Want to morph?

I don't want to turn.

Gray like the other one.

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So last time I checked we were a

little bit over 400 followers.

That was last week, too.

Yeah, and we got to do another

ten that we're giving away.

You said that last week, too.

I know I just didn't get to do

it.

I'm.

Just telling you we.

Were Why are you Why are you

chastising?

You know, I'm not as a veteran

Facebook group person.

Seems the problem with our group

is people responding and

posting.

What do you mean by which?

Group, the Postanya group.

It's like the same five or six

guys all the time.

That's where it starts.

But there's 400 people.

It should be more than five

though.

Post boom.

And now it'll be Mitch and

couple of the other guys, all

the same ones that comment, all

of them.

That's OK.

That's where you start.

Come on, you gotta start

somewhere. 400 people in

Michael.

There should be more, you think,

so people are not interacting

with the group, they're just

there.

You want?

OK, so then you know what?

You want me to go James.

Silent Bobman on on all of them.

And private message.

Hey man.

Oh no, don't.

I noticed that you're part of

this group.

We're saying it on here.

Maybe there will be more.

Why interact?

And you responded that?

Was a different.

Group, there's nothing.

You're not encouraging our post

on your pics, and I and I would

like you to get on that there.

You go.

Yeah.

But look at the camera, don't

you?

Looking at me.

Hey, over here.

Hey.

I'm gonna need you to respond to

the I'm gonna need you to post

some Postania pics need you like

and comment in the Postania

mafia crew.

You are one of the 427 people so

far.

Let's go, I'll.

Cut this out and put it up.

So please give me an e-mail at.

The top I'll I'll pin it to the

top.

Perfect.

Thank you.

OK.

Hey, moving on, anything else?

What else do you got?

I'm just waiting for the Matapa

to become the fucking as a

herser e-mail.

Are you?

Giving away the 10.

Right now, I'm not.

Here.

Oh, I.

Do do you know what's going on?

I'm lost.

So we lost.

So he lost his mind last week.

Yeah.

I mean, let's be.

Perfect.

I did a really big red red light

this.

Morning.

You turned around and you did

you put the Patreon up for the

down to her podcast guys?

Correct.

And they lost their shit.

They were very, they were very

upset about that.

Oh yeah, yeah.

He put up the secret show.

As their show.

Yeah, you know what?

Nobody even noticed.

But I put our show up as on the

Chet and Palmer YouTube page,

too.

Did you and I took that down and

put it backward?

Dude, it was a rough week last

week.

Apparently it was a rough couple

of days.

You know what's so funny?

Is like, I don't know maybe it's

because I'm older and I I just,

I know shit happens and I know

you at this point.

So I'm just like, hey, you

fucked this up.

And then like I no longer get

irate about it.

I just move the fuck on.

But Jerry and the down to earth

guys, they haven't had his

experiences.

You could tell that Jerry was

upset, you know, he's so he

called me like, hey, man, you

know.

He called me with a question.

I answered the question with,

well, I put up the wrong show.

I just switched your show and

he's like, oh OK, and then hung

up.

So I guess he immediately

called.

You so, so he so he was upset.

Right.

And I was like, yeah, OK you

know, like, all right, we'll

we'll fix it.

Like, I don't know.

Right it it gets fixed.

He fucked up.

What do you want us to do?

Let him hang him up and start

beating him on the back.

I had a nice phone call on

Tuesday.

He's fine.

Or at least he's over it.

So calm down, I'm sure, yeah.

Wait, he's at Delray Beach?

Yeah, he went for the weekend.

I set him up at a cigar lounge

too.

I don't know if you win or not.

Oh yeah, yeah.

I wonder how the great smoke

went.

It looked amazing from

everything I saw.

Yeah, there were confetti

everywhere.

Everybody seemed to have a good

time who posted about.

It I want to know if the sub

Teemo guy was there.

I don't know because it wasn't

the trick or treat thing.

It was just tables and I did not

see any.

No pictures of his table like

Sweepy put up almost 100 photos.

I didn't see her with him.

Was he so not supposed to be

there?

I'm just gauging his level of

involvement in the industry, but

if he shows up to the great

smoker.

The What's Volkenburg Magazine?

Ash Quarterly.

He had a a table, a booth there

and they're giving away a

Luciano, he.

Had a table.

Humidor Yeah, he had a table.

I thought you could only have a

table if you're in Abe's store.

Maybe he.

Maybe.

Well, well, if you got to

remember, there's all those

other people there that have

tables.

The liquor people, the haircut

people, the magazine people.

So maybe they paid for a table?

OK.

But they were all sales tables

this year.

I mean, there wasn't, you know,

like Tarrant Riley was not

standing by his table going,

give me your ticket, there's

your cigar.

Right, right.

So every time we got on a stern

cigar, you'd have to go to that

person.

You had if you want to buy one.

Buy the box or whatever.

Yeah, it looked like some of

them had special packs they made

for the thing.

Buy packs and stuff.

You know, we're gonna give Booth

a call on Patreon, 'cause I'm

sure he was there.

He was there, yes.

He was there.

Curious.

Might get a picture with.

Him we could call Jerry too and

get his take on Jerry down to

HIRF was there.

But you think he's still angry

with you?

No, he's not.

Hey so I just wanna know I'm

gonna fuck up this week and.

No, they put up their own shows

now.

So I know, yeah, we fixed that.

Yeah, well I explained to him.

I have a login for our show, I

have a login for smoking truth,

and then I have a a different

for Chet and Palmer.

And then all three of those

shows also have three separate

YouTube pages.

They all go off with your

fingerprint.

No, you just fucked up, man.

I did.

Yes, I did.

I did.

I fucked up.

Yeah.

It says more logins.

OK, so how you solve the

problems?

Get somebody else.

Put somebody else in here.

Now you do your own job.

There you go.

We're at the point now where we

don't think he's going to do

anything, so here you go.

There's nothing you can do.

Hey, I trust you enough to have

this right?

Right.

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Tatwahe ships PCA 2023

Exclusive.

Tatwahe began shipping the

cigar.

Shipping the cigar.

It released an exclusive for

retailers who attended the 2023

Premium Cigar and Trade Show

last summer.

Oh.

What?

What Tatwahe tatwahe I told you

is shipping last last year's TA

TA tatwa GG.

Yes, they're slipping.

They're slipping.

They are slipping because you're

getting last year's cigar this

year.

OK.

Yeah.

The Tetuahaye PCA 2023 is a 6 by

6 3/8 by 54 Toro.

They use at Ecuador and semantic

rapper atop A Nicaraguan double

binder and fellows from

Nicaragua.

Basically the same cigar as last

year.

You know, I've been spoken some

Tetuahaye lately.

Yeah, it's OK.

Let's see.

They still have another

exclusive release from 2023 to

ship.

The cigar made the Tobaccon

Association of America.

The cigar comes in the same

size, so there's another cigar

from last year.

They still haven't shipped

either.

Oh, OK, A lot of them.

They're getting on it.

They're getting caught up.

If you buy the 2024 one, who

knows when you'll get that?

26.

Bilatto Caldwell lost and found

increases price on April first

Most of the various cigar

distributed by Down and Back

LLC.

Have you heard of them?

Yeah, that's Caldwell.

Yeah, we'll increase his prices

on April 1st.

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Blind Man 4, Caldwell Cigar 6,

La Barba 4.

Lost and Found six.

The La Barba increase do not

affect Tony Vilado's other.

Brand 6%.

Four and six?

Yes, between 4:00 and 6:00.

Well, this thing gets in a way

down here.

La Roya is releasing the Pro

Vintage 2014 at the PCA 2024.

That's 10 years.

That's how long they've been

around.

No, no, they were.

They're releasing the 2014 cigar

at the 2024.

Is this the?

Thing now Oh.

Mike Rosales go.

Ahead.

This might be the only time we

get.

Yeah, it might be the only time

it's available.

Michael, you're on the podcast.

The regular podcast the.

Regular podcast, Not the, not

the patient.

Don't talk shit, I've.

Never.

We're talking about your new

cigar.

We need $400.

Oh man, I have your people.

Get a hold of my people that's

been using workout.

I'll have Greg call James.

Negotiable.

I'm the only person you can get

consistently answered like we

have.

That's true.

We'll have Greg call like wait a

minute, I.

Already filled out the CC form

there.

You go OK.

So, yeah, I just wanted to kind

of lightly plug here about what

what you're doing with the, the

Pennsylvania Broadleaf CRO Mag

and you know, I didn't know if

you wanted to talk about it

really quickly that way we can

kind of get things rolling to

PCA.

We smoked it on the Patreon so.

I I think that the obviously

whenever it became apparent that

the Connecticut broadleaf was

going to be challenging to get

it and at least at a high

quality.

I mean you know again there's

always, there's always some

types of tobaccos that are out

there but high quality grade A

for the things that you need.

You know it's it's always sorry

my my GPS is streaming on me in

my ear is it makes challenging

right so.

Recalculating turn left.

Yeah, turn left the.

So essentially at the end of the

day, you know we we decided to

go in and kind of take this

opportunity, make a couple

things have changed.

You know obviously when we, you

know CRO Magnon as a whole has

been out since you know early

20.

We started on that project in

2010, you know our Palace of

Chains, you know People's Palace

that follow us brand of chains,

right.

So even though it's a great to

guard and solicits as well, it's

an opportunity to kind of go in

and kind of look and see what

was available.

We chose the Pennsylvania

Broadleaf and you know kind of

to retool and kind of update the

Pro Magnet as a whole.

And so here we are, we're going

to take it to the trade show and

formally launch it and I'm

really excited.

So there's going to be some

packaging changes, some band

changes as well.

So that way people can kind of

identify and look and see the

difference between the CRO

Magnet Original and this

Pennsylvania.

OK, so packaging and band

changes.

Yeah, well, and the blend is

completely different too.

Correct all the way.

Down all the way down.

Yeah.

So it's it's it's retooled it.

It's so we, yeah, we retooled it

and it's a, it's a it's going to

be fantastic.

So you know and the the great

thing about it is the pricing

structure for even 4 branches to

guard.

So you know, I want to say it's

kind of in this, you know, 8:50

to you know, $13 retail pricing.

Yeah, which is insane,

especially in today's market.

Yeah, yeah.

So you know a lot of the sizes,

you know some people, people are

are kind of used to in common,

you know as far as like the the

pro Magnan, you know names.

I mean there's some that are

modified like obviously like the

the black Irish is not going to

be known as Clovis and but for a

lot of the other sizes and stuff

like it's all kind of carries

through.

So like so there's there's some,

you know the lineage is there

for CRO magnet but then there's

there's some modifications just

to kind of keep it, keep it

fresh, you keep it.

It's it's funny to me because

people are already talking about

the Clovis and they're looking

for the Clovis and I feel like

some of them are just they

they're sleeping on the fact

that there's this new CRO mag

coming out and once they fucking

smoke the cigar dude, it is

going to be their go to regular

rotation cigar.

Yeah.

For sure.

If if there are, if you listen,

if you're a listener and you're

already trying to track, if

you're a listener and you're

trying to already trying to

track this Clovis, look, there's

not going to be a lot of it

coming out.

And I'm going to tell you right

now that Pennsylvania broadly

core line is so fucking money,

do not skip it.

You need to jump on that

immediately.

So the first one that you're

going to be releasing is the

timeline, correct?

Yeah.

Timeline will be shortly coming

out that's probably we're we're

trying to get that out first

week of March it's selected to

you know about 12 retailers that

will that will get it and you

know and each one of them the

way that they're going to

basically you know I'm sure will

change depending on the store

and how they they.

You know obviously it's a quick

easy flip right.

If you know I if if they were

you know obviously if you you

know were to put a bundle of 10

and you know you know you get 15

or 20 or 10 or however many you

actually get.

You know it's a it's a quick

flip My my recommendation is to

kind of throw you know break it

up and throw you know a little

bit of little bit of this little

bit of that and you know get a

couple in there.

I mean I think most people just

want to try it right.

And then but if you still have

some original old CRO Magnon and

you wanted to put like a few of

the original CRO Magnon in there

and make a pack and just say hey

here's a couple of the old

here's a couple of you know the

new.

So that way you kind of compare

it and see like where you know

how it's kind of been modified

and and you know how it changes

and kind of you smoke through

them and.

And realize like how much more

it finishes, you know it's just

sharper, it's a little bit

cleaner.

It's not as muted.

I mean but you know Pro Magnan

broadly, you know the connected

broadly on that blend, on the

Pro Magnan blend is very

one-dimensional and very front

forward and it doesn't really

taper or move off that that

flavor profile.

It's very you know the front

forward and stays that way for a

while and it just there's no

there's no really nuances in

that and there's the wrapper

leaf, you know and it's a great

taste and flavor but I think, I

think this one will will

definitely shine in its own way.

Yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely.

All right.

Well, do you have anything else

to add Michael Palmer or?

No, no I I like I said earlier I

smoked the knuckle dragger

regular CRO mag after having the

the pre release sample and there

is quite a difference.

Yeah, it's a totally different.

Just like Michael said, I don't

know all those buzz words.

He just said I can't make it

sound as good.

The nuances, the nuances and the

the edge, the finished leather,

it was a lot smoother to me the

the new one.

Do you think that's, do you

think that's just because after

years of experience in blending

that Skip has gotten better at

creating blends or do you think

what do you what do you think

Michael, like how did you know,

I understand the CRO Mag is

look, we we went, we this is the

first thing that Romo Craft did.

We went, we sought out the best

tobacco possible and we made a

blend and it was good.

It was fantastic because, I

mean, you can't really make a

bad cigar if you have really

good ingredients right now.

Now, now that we've kind of

progressed forward here, we took

a Sumatra that I think is

unrivaled when it comes to

75,000 other Sumatras that came

out in the show, right?

There's there's the Sumatras and

then there's the fucking Bolstad

right now, you know, and I think

that's kind of a testament to

the blending process and the

time and and all that invested

in this factory.

Do you think that that's the

that this new one is really a a

testament to hey, you know we've

spent a ton of time blending and

and learning how to make

tobacco, how to cure tobacco and

do all these different processes

and and this is this is

definitely going to be different

because of that or just think

hey you know we're really good

at finding good tobacco and

that's it.

No, I think so.

So I mean here's the thing,

right.

If I said hey if Connecticut

Broadleaf is is your jam can I

you know OK well name name two

or three cigars that have

Connecticut Broadleaf.

People can kind of rattle off

3/4 you know brands that that

are pretty heavy big heavy

hitters with the Connecticut

shade broadly in the marketplace

right now.

If you said hey what's what's

what's Pennsylvania broadly

cigar that are heavy hitters out

there that that people buy.

You know that promote on social

media that that you know there

aren't very many of those if you

think about it.

I mean just kind of in your head

I mean is it is it more than two

or three that you can think of

that are you know and we we had

a I mean obviously you know when

we did we we have worked with

with the Pennsylvania Bradley

before with another brand that

we that we make and have made

the commercial.

And you know so I mean you have

you have some you have some

experience in that and then you

kind of look at it and go you

know that that you know believe

it or not I mean that people

really enjoyed that cigar.

And I think, you know, you can

kind of build off of that and

you kind of take it and say, OK,

well how do you kind of how do

you kind of blend that and marry

that with, you know, the Co

Magnum blend is someone's

obviously really upset and yeah.

So.

Long story short I think you

know you take, you take the

blending efforts and and

education that skip this kind of

gone through and kind of

understanding like what what

makes you know our buying

patterns and how we look for

tobacco.

And if you take on top of the

things that we've learned kind

on that first you know run with

Pennsylvania and you kind of

build on that and then you go

OK, how do you make a cigar that

you know could be that that kind

of that heavy hitter in the

marketplace for what you're

trying to plug right.

How do you?

Because I mean again, you know

when we pulled pro Magnin

production off of, you know,

back in when was that 20/17/2016

and 17, you knew right away that

if you put it back into

production, even if it was from

product, from existing

inventory, people were going to

say, oh, this isn't the same,

right.

So you have to come out with a

cigar that's better, you know,

the same or if not better when

you when you release it because

you know they're going to be

some naysayers that are out

there no matter what.

You know, just that's just how

it goes, right.

So Oh yeah.

So so this you know it's like OK

well so you know this kind of

checks a lot of those boxes.

I think, you know it's

understanding how to buy and and

and curate tobacco and and kind

of blending as well as you know

how do you take it to the next

level and say how do you make

this kind of become one of those

standouts.

You know you put a lot of time

and effort into that to make

sure that it checks all the

clocks you know before you go to

the market.

So yeah, you know and hopefully,

you know even for the people who

say you know Colt Magnum was too

strong for me, maybe maybe you

can make a little bit more

nuanced and be kind of bring the

ball into the fold.

Think it's going to have more

consumers, dude.

I honestly think this because

this cigar is going to have more

consumers.

It's going to cater to the guys

that like that CRO mag and it's

going to cater to the guys that

felt that the CRO Mag was too

much.

I felt the CRO mag before was

too much, but now.

Right when I.

Smelled that it was.

There you go.

So that's my point, you know?

So I mean, dude, I was super

impressed.

I I wasn't at first.

I was thinking, OK, it's a

Pennsylvania Brier Leaf,

whatever, it's going to be all

right, you know?

And when we smoked it on the

show, I was like, fuck, dude,

this is fucking money.

So.

Yeah.

All right.

Well, I'll let you get back to

your.

GPS and Harmonica lessons.

Jump, roping, or whatever you're

doing.

All the things, all those

things.

Thank you very much for the call

and for the plug on the show

always you guys have a

wonderful.

Day.

I'll see you soon.

Yeah.

We'll see you in a couple of

weeks.

See you soon.

Looking forward to it.

For a whole week straight.

And we're going to be there nice

and early, so you can't give us

any shit about building anything

by yourselves.

I don't know shit, you know.

I'm not.

I don't give.

Shit.

No.

You know, no.

Yeah.

No, I can I I I I can read

between you know I've got it.

Passive aggressive.

I sensed it.

I sent.

I was like, oh, fucked up.

Oh no, no.

It was walking for the first.

Time normally when I fuck up,

though it's not intentional.

It's not like, all right, well,

I'm awesome.

I'm just going to show up and

everything should be done.

I was like, Oh no, we got here

kind of late.

Oh, fuck.

So, so now we're going to be

here nice and early, apparently.

See.

Oh yeah, Greg and Dad, quite a

few days to have run in.

Yeah, So it's.

Going to be great coming.

I'm looking forward to it.

All right.

Thank you guys.

Take care all.

Right.

Mike, talk to you later.

Bye.

Michael Rosales of Roma Craft.

He knows all the buzz words,

yes.

I mean, it sounded very

impressive.

He could have been talking about

nothing, but it sounded so

impressive.

That's.

His job, isn't it?

I got to.

Tell you exactly.

That's what I mean.

It's not like it's his first

day, man.

Listen.

But a lot of people aren't that

smooth though.

Man, listen, we.

Talked to a lot of industry

people on this show and it's

not.

Look, I have only, I have

learned this game from a handful

of people, right?

And he is one of, he's probably

the top one of that list when it

comes to sales and and memory.

And you know just the shit never

tells.

Anybody That they're a fuck

stick.

No, no, no.

But I was it's.

A call back the last.

Week where I called somebody a

fuck stick.

No, you said you're not good at

sales because you've been told.

Because I call people fuck

sticks, and you shouldn't call

people fuck sticks.

Yeah.

I just listened to Joe

yesterday.

There a thing, I mean, I am who

I am to some degree, right?

So, you know, I have learned

that you're never going to

emulate somebody precisely.

No, no, You know Or do you want

to?

Kobe will never be Jordan.

But but Kobe learned the game

from Jordan, right?

So same scenario.

You know, you learn things from

individuals and you put your own

spin on them, and then you are

who you are.

Unfortunately for me, I'm the

hat of all of those things.

I'm not just the sales, I'm not

just a blend.

I'm not just a brand.

I'm just you know, and Greg does

help along the way for

something.

Something just very low.

You know, couple days.

Before Vegas, you know.

The difference is, though, that

when we ask Greg what's going

on, why what, what?

What's up with this?

He He's always waiting on

somebody.

He wants to cut that whole part

of the meeting out where you ask

the employees if they need

anything.

Yeah, he just wants to cut that

whole thing up.

Really.

He said that?

Yeah, he said that Friday

because he he took such a

throttling, you said last week

during the meeting.

I was waiting on that.

Yeah.

They got to make that call.

Everything somebody wants, he

goes, I'm on that.

I'm working on that.

I'm.

I got to make a call wait on the

guy.

What are we waiting on?

He's actually a good part of the

meeting, though.

Was hit the fucking button.

Well, he just wants to take it

out because he he doesn't want

his part because he.

Doesn't want to own his shit.

Doesn't want to go well, I

haven't done that yet.

And we're at the five minute

part of Greg owning his shit.

All right, all right.

I've.

Got quite a few stories out as

we we did the interview.

I think.

I know we have to.

I know we have to get upstairs.

Though we got OK.

Club Meganuto would open in

Taipei, Taiwan, this month.

And you say that that one was

the fucking well, like what?

Did you cut out the club

macanuto of doing?

Taipei, Taiwan La Rora I cut

out, Did we?

Talk about La Rora.

No, all he said was the title of

the story.

Oh.

OK.

I cut out warped cigars making a

10th anniversary cigar.

W Tampa is re releasing the

cigar again but they changed the

name.

Was it?

Is it yellow now?

No, it's still red, but it's the

Attic series again.

It's bringing back, not re

released, bringing back.

OK, We're on Taiwan.

Now, right now, we're in Taiwan,

so I just jumped four stories at

the new storyline is located in

the central business district of

the city, nestled among art

installation, stunning

architecture, fashion houses,

world class shopping culture and

culinary destination.

Then the iconic Taipei One O 1.

Time is debating if they should

just take it all.

Yeah, they're just going to

shoot it down, Justin Andrew,

senior brand manager and brand

personnel for SCG, was contacted

for a quote and his voicemail

allegedly said.

I'm in a meeting again.

If these minis didn't stop, I'll

call you back.

Oh shit, here comes my boss.

I'm late for a meeting.

That sounds about.

Right, right.

That's about right.

Oh.

Man, the bottom stories are so

hard to get to with this.

Microphone Nation Cigar Company

rebrands Matappa as Axum.

I don't have questions about

this.

Okay, let's do the story then.

Yeah, let's see.

Nation Cigar Companies announced

that its Metopa line has a new

name.

It is now being called Axum in

an attempt to connect consumer

to the cigar.

But still, no one knows what

Nick is talking about.

It's called Axum now and the

label is different.

The new name?

Yeah, it's got a new picture of

a different guy.

Dude.

The new name gets his

inspiration from the resting

place of the Ark of the Covenant

and is now named for the ancient

city and Kingdom that existed

from approximately 150 to 960

AD.

Aksum, the city and Kingdom is

located.

He's got a microdose or.

Something East Africa and South

Arabia and modern day Northern

eats Ethiopia the.

Guy's just so smart.

I don't.

He looks like the other guy

without the hat.

It was located by Nick by

putting a rare amulet on the top

of a long stick and waiting till

the sun was just right.

And it sent a beam of light onto

a miniature of the city.

On the website, Minister's cigar

company writes that according to

local legend, the Ark of the

Covenant was brought to Exum by

Belloc, Colonel Dietrich and a

small laughing man with a burned

hand named Tote.

This day U.S. government has the

Ark hidden in a warehouse

somewhere.

The package you get this update

as well the image on the box is

in the band of Axum is that of

Haley's Selassie father, and a

lot of long names you don't

know.

The decision to rebrand reflects

a deeper connection to the

brand's inspiration, the Ark of

the Covenant and its symbolic

journey, and Raiders of the Lost

Ark.

The company is under press

release.

So it's Kaisai trying to do

cease and assistance here.

Does he possess Labor Raiders of

the Lost Ark as well?

So so I talked to Alfredo.

Oh please.

About Matappa and blah blah blah

and Axum or whatever, because I

needed a refill of some stuff or

whatever and they don't have

fucking all.

That you might You might want to

wait.

See what you got to buy

together.

And they don't have all my yet,

right?

Right.

You know what dude?

I got to be honest.

If whatever, if they say hey,

you know you're not, I'll be

like, OK.

Sorry says the line will begin

shipping to retailers later this

week.

Will also be featured in the

2024 PCA Convention and Trade

Show in late March.

You want them?

Allegedly it comes in a value

pack with 75 other boxes of a

sort of foundation cigars that

you may or may not want.

Allegedly.

Oh, you wanted the Axum.

You're not.

Qualified here?

Yeah.

You're not buying enough yet.

I'm looking at.

This guy without the hat.

How about matapas?

You want those?

So so Alfredo.

We got some of those left so.

Alfredo says to me, he's like,

yeah man, I, you know, I don't

know.

I feel like there are going to

be some people really kind of

looking for the Matapa because

now it's, you know, it's

contained that zoom.

So, like I said, what?

What the fuck are you talking

about?

It's the same cigar.

Like, the fuck are you talking

about?

They're trying to push the

metaphas.

Out.

You know?

I don't.

I don't know if there's metaphas

left or not, but it's just funny

to me always to hear some of the

shit that comes out of

Alfredo's, like, stop it right

now.

I don't know what you're talking

about.

Fucking.

Did he not see the list?

The what?

What list?

The Metapha list of what's in

stock.

No, listen, is that our regular

show?

I don't know what he's talking.

About.

I don't know what he's talking

about.

Oh no, that was Patreon.

Oh my God.

Stop talking about Patreon on

the Regular Show.

You guys need to get on the

Patreon, that's what needs to.

Have you're a hot mess?

Well, what?

All 750 to listen to the

picture?

Well then, then we don't.

Then we only do one show, OK.

Look, deal.

We'll make a deal.

Only half of you have to get on

the.

Patreon, you know, I would love

nothing better than just to get

away from this and just do

Patreon.

Just do the just do Patreon.

Oh, we could.

Yeah, like hey, oh we could just

do like a 10 second blip thing.

We don't have a podcast on.

The podcast anymore?

If you want it, you got to pay

for.

It we're on the fucking picture.

Don't get us on the Patreon.

Well, we talk a lot of shit

about everybody.

Like we don't more than you'd

already do.

Wait a second.

We don't.

Have sponsors.

No, we don't have sponsors.

No on Patreon.

No sponsors on Patreon.

I feel like we have a sponsor.

No, don't we have a Cal sponsor?

No, they sponsor by doing work.

Oh, sweat equity.

Oh yeah, Bray's.

He's talking about Bray's ranch.

She sends in the fills.

Fun fact.

Every week.

Oh, does she?

Yeah.

Oh, sweat equity.

Sweat.

Equity.

Sweat.

Equity.

Or you can start doing your own

again what you need to do.

What, You want to have her start

uploading shins?

You know I.

Don't think she has that kind of

time.

OK, so.

So is that the Are you getting

axioms?

Are you getting metallic?

I mean like I'm if I need to

fill a particular size, I'll get

the new ones.

Well, that would make sense, no.

It's the exact same cigar.

They've changed the band in the

box.

This is ridiculous.

Because he must have seen

Raiders lost Ark over the

weekend or something.

I Who knows?

Somebody said something.

The guy.

The guy on the old.

Band I'm willing.

The guy's dead.

I'm willing to bet that somebody

said, hey, you can't do that,

yeah.

Something something.

Well, you figured who's going

to?

Know that's my grand pappy.

We own the right to Matapa, you

know?

I'm like, who the fuck are you?

This Matapa was made for his

grandfather.

Was that the one made for his

grand?

Oh no.

That was the Charter Oak.

That was a Charter Oak when they

made for his grandpa.

What Top was a poet?

Hey EP Corrillio renamed Devil

Calera La Alonzia EP Corrillio

has announced that has renamed

the factory in the Dominican

Republic from Devil Calera EP

Corrillio What Lanza to Casa

Lucio Morales.

I mean Casa Corrillio.

According to an article in Cigar

Aficionado, Ernesto Perez,

Grillo made the change to better

encapsulate the company's

heritage, vision and commitment

to tradition, and to allegedly

ward off any possible takeovers

from another.

Cigar factor.

Cigar Factory, opened in April

of 2009, is located in the free

trade zone of Santiago,

Dominican Republic.

Santiago.

Yeah, there's a very big story

about best cigar prices.

Doing a giant party when I can

do that.

We're gonna have a big cigar

party.

And well, the the Pennsylvania

party that used to happen for

what was the name of the

company?

Don't know.

But they don't do it anymore, so

now these guys do it instead.

Oh.

Florida story The Florida man

has died after a bite from a

large venomous lizard called the

Gila Monster that he legally

kept as a pet, according to Lake

City officials.

The Florida man, There's a that

was actually a guy.

No.

A Florida man died after being

bit by his legally kept pet

lizard.

Christopher Ward, 34, owned two

of the reptiles and became I'll

after being bit on the hand by

one of the animals.

An incident reported from the

Lake City Police Department

shows Ward's girlfriend called

911 just after midnight February

12th after she entered the room

where the reptiles were kept and

found that one of them had

latched onto Ward's hand, LCPD

Animal Control Officers Leisha

Crookston wrote in the report.

Board immediately started

showing symptoms, vomiting

several times before he passed

out and his breathing stopped

and then he died.

I This is a horrible story.

But it's, I mean, funny.

I mean, Florida, Why would you

have to?

Get them from the desert.

We don't have a desert, so we

had to get these somewhere

illegally.

Bring them to his house, feed

them.

Go.

Oh, nice lizard walk dead.

What'd he do?

'Cause, he said.

He threw up.

The lady watched.

I mean, I was contemplating a.

Tiger several times before he

passed out in the breathing.

Stuff, I mean, Teddy said.

She wanted a tiger.

I was like, I'm just gonna make

that.

Work.

We looked up a tiger.

Don't get the tiger.

Yeah, you can't get the tiger,

you.

Just be like that one guy in

TikTok that how was the.

Twine, Yeah.

He's like, he's blind.

He's got the fake dog who walks

around the.

Dog.

A fake tiger.

They get a fake tiger.

They get, they get mad at.

Bubbles as is you.

Can I mean, Can you imagine?

There's a place that'll take

your dog Chapo, with all the

hair.

And turn him into a tiger.

They'll turn him into a tiger.

Oh, they will paint him so he

looks like a tiger.

They will cut him down.

Paint him.

Yeah, they paint him.

Wow.

I bet you my grandma would do

that.

But can you make him one of your

tiger?

I think.

It's in Miami, to be honest.

I bet you my grandma would do

it.

Well, only if they're familiar

with painting, because it has to

be special.

Paint.

I can't imagine.

Not like they use, you know,

Krylon.

Is this like the time you try to

do the look at yourself?

Look, you throw enough money at

anything, like we went out to

dinner and you know, I said, oh,

hey, I want this, like I want

the sashimi deluxe, I said.

But I want all salmon like, oh,

we.

Want I hear that place in Vegas

is stocking up.

Good to know.

You're like, well, we don't do

that.

And I said it's coming.

Listen, listen, I've done it

here before, so I know that

it'll and the price, I know that

it'll.

Happen there's a price.

What is the number?

So you know, server walks away,

she does, handles all the orders

with her, she comes back, she

goes, I just want you to know,

they said they'll do it right,

it's gonna be an extra 15 bucks.

And I said, OK, go ahead and do

that then.

Yes, we would like 1512 was my

line.

That's where I broke.

So you broke me.

How many pieces were in the

sashimi dough?

A lot.

Oh, so it normally has like a

smidgen of of, Yeah, it's.

Probably like 4 pieces of

salmon, you know.

Right.

And you just wanted them all.

Yeah, I want all salmon, right?

We can't.

Do that.

Cicerola wanted chicken, fried

rice, all white meat chicken.

Yeah, I never knew that.

I never thought of it, even

asking.

It was $1.50 more.

That's it, yeah.

Something.

Somebody goes through it and

fucking yeah.

You got to pick all the other,

that's something and they they

make this before you get there,

so like picking it out.

I'd like the low Maine with

crooked noodles.

Right.

All the crooked ones.

No straight ones, please.

And that's just spaghetti.

Yes?

All right, Pro cigar.

Dominican Republic.

A memorable closure.

Mark Bay Fashion faux pas.

Wait, there's another story

after the Florida?

Yeah, this is a yeah, this is a

special, this is a special

story.

So if you could go to my camera

please there cameraman and sound

technician.

This is the big This is the

biggest news.

Yes, as the sunsets Michael and

another successful edition of

the Pro Cigar in the American

Republic attendees are buzzing

about the exceptional moments

that define the year's event.

Among the highlights, however,

was one particular story is

stealing the limelight.

The fashion misadventures of

industrial stalwarts William

Cigar Cooper and Eric from Cigar

Dojo Pro Cigar, known for its

vibrant celebrations of sobriety

and camaraderie wrapped up with.

That's what it says, I don't

know, wrapped up with a Grand

White Party tradition where

attendees Don their finest all

white ensembles.

However, for the 2nd consecutive

year, William Cooper found

himself at the center of

attention or missing the memo on

the dress code as he failed to

support the required the

requisite white pants.

Cooper, a respected figure in

the cigar industry and a regular

participant in a pro cigar the

media.

Icon of the cigar.

Humorously embraced his fashion

blunder becoming the talk of the

evening attendee shared a

collective chuckle as they

witnessed Cooper confidently

navigating the sea of pristine

white outfits in his non

conforming attire to add A twist

to the tale of sartorial

mishaps.

Eric from Cigar Dojo and other

influential personality in Cigar

World also missed the mark on

the dress code.

The camaraderie and spirit of

Pro Cigar prevailed as Gutter

Guterjum joined Cooper in,

deviating from the exceptional

all white attire, sparking

laughter and creating a

memorable moment for all the

attendees.

Social media sphere has since

been flooded with photos.

There's one here, anecdotes

about the unconventional fashion

choices turning what might have

been a faux pas into a light

hearted and unforgettable aspect

of the year's pro cigar.

Attendees appreciated the candid

and humorous approach both

Cooper and Eric adopted.

I can't say his last name

showcasing that that even in a

formal setting, a touch of

spontaneity and good humor can

elevate the overall experience.

Wow.

It's.

Crazy just going in there.

Put it on khakis.

Well, no.

They were grayish blue.

Oh, like a grayish not.

Even khakis, not even khakis and

Eric had on yellow, yellow,

yellow, faded yellow, this.

Is an all White Party.

Which matches yellow shoes too,

so it's.

An all White Party, gentlemen.

Is this something that's known

that it's an all white?

Party.

Oh yeah.

Yes, it's called the All White

Party.

So why I just don't get the

whole you?

Know why not do it?

Just just commit.

Yeah, just get a pair of.

Just get a pair of white pants.

How hard can that be?

Yeah, I'm not gonna lie.

It probably is hard to find all

white pants.

I'm not gonna lie.

We should buy something you.

Could buy them online.

We should buy some.

Yeah, I'm on the show.

Oh, we should.

Yeah.

We should Eric.

And hey, these are for you guys.

These are for you guys for next

year.

And we listen.

We don't want.

Big red pee on the side.

Of it.

We want you guys.

No, we want you guys.

We want you guys respected in

the industry.

What side do you think Eric

wears?

He's very little.

I don't know.

He's surprisingly small when you

stand next to him.

I would.

I'm gonna put him at like a 29.

29 Yeah 29 Length 20O20. 9

waist. 29 like a 28.

Just get him limited like a 28

length.

OK, we'll see if we can find

those name Cooper Coops.

Probably rocking 34.

I'd say a 36.

Oh, you think that big, you?

Think that.

Maybe.

Let's go 36 better say than

sorry.

You can always fix that with 30.

Six and he's shorter.

He's shorter.

Maybe a maybe a 30, a 30?

I think he's about a 4042.

OK, I'll see if I can find them.

No, all right.

No, he's not that.

Big.

Yeah, we'll just wing that.

What What do you what size do

you wear?

I wear 3430.

We're gonna buy 30.

Four is a little baggy on.

Me.

I mean, you're not gonna be able

to get the new microphone stand,

but we'll get them some pants.

Yeah, pants are gonna be get.

The pants off of Teemo.

They won't get here in time.

Yeah, yeah.

It's like a three-week delivery

thing for that till I've

delivered to Vegas.

Yeah, we don't have that kind of

time, right?

But yeah, I want them in white

pants.

Certainly, yes, yes.

Yes, we need proper

representation of cigar media in

the Dominican.

They were the only two media

guys there.

And they need to be in all

white.

They need to, yes.

Yeah, Charlie, I'm sure was in

all white.

I'm sure he would have been too

a white sweat.

White hoodie.

Yeah.

White No.

He sweat pants.

He I'm sure he no, he has, like

he's got these nice depths.

What do they call them?

Nike.

No, no, no.

It's something weird.

Yeah.

Well, I didn't.

You know what?

I'd be you.

Very rarely see pictures of

Charlie unless he's in somebody

else's photo.

Yeah, he doesn't take.

His office see.

Yeah, if you like.

The pants or the guy?

The fucking jacket, Cashmere.

Oh, oh.

Yeah, that's what he wears.

All white.

That sounds very warm.

Cashmere down the Dominican

Republic I.

Feel like Charlie's a little

more simple like Nike?

Air.

No, man, I've seen him in some

shit.

I'm like, damn bro, that's a

fucking makes.

A lot of money on that half

wheel thing.

Crushing it.

Yeah, he wouldn't show up.

And not all white.

No, no.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, neither would hustle his

podcast.

Yeah, we just wouldn't go.

We just wouldn't go, right?

Because I'm not looking for

pants, right?

So crazy.

It's so hard to find apparently.

Yeah, we're going to solve your

problem.

And Eric and Eric and if you

guys have to go.

Shout out to Dojo.

Shout out to all the 75,000

coupe things that he does.

All the different ones.

Trombone coupe.

I mean the most the most

important one is the jukebox.

Jukebox Coupe.

Right jukebox, coupe.

He's my guy.

They're doing a big Taylor Swift

show this week.

Apparently, I know, it's

fantastic.

I love it too.

Love watching it.

Love watching his clips on

Instagram and shit and start

laughing my ass off.

So, yeah.

All right, well, that's a

podcast.

You got to listen early week.

I don't have one.

All right, leave me alone.

Shop of the Week Are you

releasing the shop yet?

Where are you doing the justice?

No, I know where I'm doing it,

though.

And you know what?

That guy scheduled an

appointment already for the

show.

Oh, not nice.

Yeah.

Is it out of state?

Yes, we'll be driving red

circle.

Red circle.

Who's Red Circle Oh?

Well, I got to take that call.

So you.

Gotta go.

Bye.

Goodbye.

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Show Notes

Welcome to the latest episode of the Cigar Hustlers Podcast, where we bring you the latest buzz from the world of cigars. In this episode, we dive deep into the premium cigar industry, exploring exciting developments, exclusive releases, and even a touch of drama.

First on the list, we discuss Tatuaje's highly anticipated shipment of PCA 2023 exclusives. Find out what makes these cigars special and why they're generating so much buzz in the cigar community.

Then, we unravel the price hikes coming from Bellatto, Caldwell, and Lost&Found, set to take effect on April 1. What factors are driving these increases, and how will they impact cigar enthusiasts?

Get ready for the scoop on La Aurora's upcoming release of Puro Vintage 2014 at PCA 2024. Learn about the flavors, craftsmanship, and the excitement surrounding this much-anticipated launch.

In a special phone interview, we connect with Mike Rosales of Roma Craft Cigars. Gain insights into the world of cigar crafting, industry trends, and what makes Roma Craft stand out.

Breaking news from Taipei – Club Macanudo is set to open its doors this month. Explore the expanding global footprint of this iconic cigar club and what it means for the cigar scene in Taiwan.

Foundation Cigar Co. takes center stage as they rebrand Metapa as Aksum. Uncover the inspiration behind the rebranding and what enthusiasts can expect from this transformation.

E.P. Carrillo makes a bold move by renaming Tabacalera La Alianza S.A. to Casa Lucio Marieles, or as they say, Casa Carrillo. Discover the story behind this name change and the significance it holds for the renowned Dominican factory.

Shifting gears to Florida, a tragic incident involving a venomous lizard takes a somber turn. Hear the details surrounding the unfortunate demise of a Floridaman who kept a Gila monster as an illegal pet.

And finally, we close with a bit of humor from Pro Cigar Dominican Republic – a memorable closure marked by fashion faux pas. Delve into the amusing stories of William "Cigar-Coop" Cooper and Eric Gutterson from Cigar Dojo, making waves with their fashion choices at this year's event.

Tune in for an episode packed with exclusive releases, industry insights, and a touch of the unexpected. This is the Cigar Hustlers Podcast – where the world of cigars comes to life!