April 2, 2024· 1h 2m

Cigar Hustlers Podcast Episode 327 PCA Trade Show: Highs and Lows

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Welcome to Cigar Hustlers

Podcast Episode 327, recorded

live at the Mike and Mike

Production Studios in Deltona,

FL.

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Cigar.

I don't understand what did I

do?

You're real good.

OK, go to two.

Go to two.

You're always good about us and

we when you talk about cigars.

But this trip, it was your

podcast.

I have a podcast.

My podcast.

I knew, I knew this was gonna

happen.

He he was, he was talking about

it during the show.

I was like.

Every time you talked about the

show, all the the media, the

media house especially was your

podcast.

I have a podcast my podcast this

by mine when I do my podcast.

Oh my God, the.

Whole time.

From now on, I'm just going to

call it Mike Palmer's House's

podcast.

Call it mine.

It's ours.

No, it's mine.

We all work together.

Mike and Mike production.

Not Mike production.

Mike Palmer's podcast.

No, no, it's not, Mike.

Yeah, it's not.

Mine.

If you say it's Mike's podcast,

then he won't get as mad.

Exactly.

Nobody will know but this show.

Oh, this show is going to be

bananas right here.

It's got to be bananas.

Bananas I.

Found the the Never to Be Heard

Pedro episode today filed filed

in a weird place.

I don't know why it was there,

but I have the audio, not the

video.

Documented under your only fans,

but.

Yes, my only fans files.

Your foot fetish files.

Foot fetish.

Only fan files, so we're back in

the PCA.

What'd you do this weekend?

It was Easter.

Yes, I did survive Easter.

Did you guys go to the mass?

It's mass.

With no, we didn't go to Mass.

You didn't go to Mass, no.

That's big with you beat.

I'm very sorry.

The point and I figured you

would go, you know.

You can go to two, yeah.

It's going back and forth.

I got to thank you from my

production team.

For the green green screen,

we're back.

Really.

You didn't go.

No, I didn't go.

Oh no.

It weird we went.

Did you?

Yeah.

Well, did you go for me?

I said it perfect.

Thank you.

Adrian really enjoys you going

so.

If you could pray a little

harder, a little bit faster for

me, that'd be fantastic.

I need a little more.

Here you need a little more, a

little low.

Running.

Low.

I'll see what I can do.

Thank you very much.

By the way, I cannot go Friday.

You can't go Friday.

No, it's a little too close.

It's too close, Yeah.

And we have to the to being gone

the last Friday.

I got it.

And we have Jeff and Becky

coming in again apparently.

OK, so.

Hey, so we we're giving this

away.

We're giving away, but we're

not.

Sure how to do it at this point

now.

OK, it just happened today.

Apparently YouTube has closed

commenting on cigar shows.

Now all of ours are not done and

it it seems like it's more

prevalent.

If you go on your phone then you

can go on the laptop.

Interesting.

John Mctavage discovered it and

he turned theirs back on and

then it got turned back off.

So we don't know if this is

another.

There's a button for it.

There is an on and off.

Yeah, you can turn comments on

and off 'cause like if you do a

show you don't want people to

talk about, you can turn

commenting off and.

No comment for you.

Right.

No comment, but yeah, so I don't

know if that'll work or not.

OK, so here's what you do.

You can like it.

You can come here's.

What you do, Yeah.

You you like and subscribe.

On like, like and subscribe.

On our YouTube channel.

Episode 300 and.

And then go to Cigar Hustler's

podcast Instagram.

Oh, OK And then just comment on

the latest photo.

I'll.

Put up the photo for this show.

Yeah, and.

Then just say done.

So they got to go two places.

Yeah, two places.

It's a little complicated.

It's autographed back to a two

place.

It's autographed by Guy TI.

Autographed by Guy Fieri.

And it's still sealed.

It's a sealed box.

It's beautiful.

We're the only ones that have

this Very rare, very rare, very

rare.

We have an interview with Guy

Fieri which will be up.

I don't know whenever Mikey

gives me the SD card.

What?

I'm working on it, dude.

How hard is it to go?

I'm I'll I'll hand you the whole

machine I'm going to give.

It I don't know where the SD

card is on the machine.

Oh, so you still need me then?

Still need you to give me the SD

card?

Is it a teeny tiny one?

It's a teeny tiny.

One don't give me the SD card,

I'll lose that.

So now I have to have an

adapter.

I have an adapter.

I have it all in the bag.

Oh, just give me the bag.

I'll figure it out.

I'll give you the bag.

Oh, he stuck in my thumb.

I'll give you the bag.

OK.

All right.

I mean I was going to crop it

and edit it out and stuff.

Did you use the camera for your

Easter video?

No Brittany's phone.

That was all.

Brittany.

Yeah.

That was nice.

I like the music.

Yeah, she did use the cap cut

though.

I use it all the.

Time.

So yeah, we did the Easter

thing.

Yeah, that was nice.

So the the rabbit Prince.

Was that like cookie crumbs or

something?

Dirt or.

What dirt?

The rabbit walks in dirt.

Did you get in trouble and have

to sweep afterwards?

Did I get in trouble?

Normally you're in charge of

sweeping.

I vacuumed it up, but I didn't

get in trouble.

Oh, I don't like dirt.

I clean.

I I well, you know, I cleaned it

up.

Well, I dirt made sense.

I saw it on the counter and I

thought, well, maybe it's like.

No, it was dirt.

Oh, it was nice, yeah.

There'll be a lot of cookies.

Yeah, they pay.

No, there's no expense spared

when the step on cabbages are

decorating.

You're telling me, man, Yeah, we

went to Universal on Saturday.

Oh yeah, Little little dabbling.

Yeah, wasn't it busy last day of

Spring break weekend?

It was.

It was a little busy.

It wasn't.

It wasn't too bad.

We weren't there for an

extremely long time.

Day before Easter, people

probably have family.

On you figured people would be

in town or whatever, but it

wasn't too bad.

We just did a couple things,

kept it, kept it light, Just

tried to get out of the house,

man, you know?

Yeah.

That's what we do Saturday too,

but we just went to swamp us.

Yeah, like you don't have kids.

Right.

We like the live music and we

had lunch and sat by the water

for a while.

It's a nice relaxing Zen full

place.

Yeah, it is.

It's a nice little place.

I'm just trying to get back into

the swing of things here, right?

That's the hardest part about

going with this.

God damn.

I mean, there's a lot of hard

things about PCA though, don't

get me wrong.

Right.

But getting back into routine is

is difficult.

Especially when you take the red

eye back.

I'm sure I can only imagine,

yeah.

I can only imagine how hard that

is you.

Can only imagine what you guys

are going to difficult.

Things 17 hours I spent at the

airport.

Wasn't there a movie where there

was a guy that was like living

at the airport?

Tom Hanks, Yeah.

Oh yeah.

That's kind of how you look.

When we found you, well I found

you.

Do they they got snagged in

security?

I'm I'm just doing laps because

I don't want to leave the

terminal.

So I'm doing laps and I walked

by and they're both at two

separate sides, both getting

patted down because they both

have done something.

Right, I saw that.

Like, oh, they're they're my

friend is.

Chet still dead.

Chet is still dead.

Yes, he has.

He has COVID, he has an ear

infection, He has a sinus

infection, and something's wrong

with his teeth.

His teeth hurt.

Yes.

Wow, man.

I'm going to tell you my ears

though, when we were getting

ready to land, yeah, that guy

pressurized the cabin by doing

all those turns and everything

so far.

Yeah, I had a while.

I had a while for my ears to pop

when I got home.

Oh man, that hurt.

And then, you know, then I still

sound nasally that that's been a

pain in the.

Ass I think everybody got sick

of PCAI heard.

I called.

I tried to get.

Jack's not a pussy.

He's not sick.

Tried to get Nick Melillo on the

phone today, he said.

Oh, the whole team got sick and

blah blah blah blah blah yeah.

Oh, Dave, says.

One guy.

Yeah, one guy.

To get sick on the trip.

To get everybody sick.

Yeah, just takes the one, dude.

Just the one.

It wasn't me.

You were sick during the trip.

I had a sunburn.

I wasn't sick.

Yeah, I heard sinus.

You said sinus.

Well, I had that.

Has that had something to do

with the sun?

No, that had to do with the dry

air.

And then Greg gave me the

saline.

My My silences were better after

a day I.

Don't know.

I don't.

Know about that, I don't know.

That last day you were very

sick.

You missed half the day, yeah.

I missed half the day, 'cause my

wife.

And then he rallied.

Right party party until 5:00 AM.

He was fine after.

The party animal, right?

God just parties all the time.

Couple of drinks, can't feel the

thighs.

He's ready to go, right?

Yeah.

And then he went to the beach as

soon as he got back.

Yeah, plane must have been fine.

I did.

I took the thing just fine.

He's a wild.

He's wild, wild and out.

DJ life.

Yeah, all right and DJ all

weekend.

DJ Boots, DJ Boots.

He's a party, party guy.

Party guy?

Yeah, all about the party.

We had a look.

We had an air.

Latin, Night, Latin.

Night.

On Friday, Friday, Saturday

night is just DJ Boots night.

Yeah, not even because somebody

Co headlined with him on Friday.

Yeah, he had his, one of his

boys.

Somebody.

And then Saturday, Justin.

That's it.

You're done.

Again, you're done.

I need no one.

I'm getting Boots Big Banner

right across the DJ check.

Poor Chet.

Yeah, that's one this fucking.

Chet, we got him sick.

Never heard of him.

Fuck it.

What do you got?

All these presets on this?

On these boards?

This is terrible.

Let me turn all this on.

We delete, delete, delete,

delete.

What's this e-mail?

Chet at Goodbye.

Wow, look at this.

Chet who oh APS Chet.

Oh.

So you want to get into PCAA

little bit?

Sure, because Jack wants more

information.

He needs more Intel.

More Intel.

Jack needs to know.

Jack needs to know about how PCA

went right.

How did PCA go?

Seemed like it was a lot of

people.

That was a decent number, I

think.

I feel like it was a good, good

turn out.

I would say it was.

We got some new retailers.

Oh, did you?

Yeah.

How many new ones did you sign

up?

Like seven or eight.

Wow.

Yeah, and they're all fans of

the show.

Most of them come up.

They go, oh, because of the

show.

Well, Bobby Duncan Cigar

District is a fan of the show.

Well, there's more than mine.

But I mean, I I would distinctly

remember.

Bobby Oh, Oh, yes, yes, yes.

Yes, I had a brief, brief

conversation with him.

Yes, he was very happy to have

to.

Yeah, it's cool because you

know, it is because he's like, I

feel like I know you because,

you know, you talk about

everything.

He's like talking about your

wife and kids and stuff.

I'm like, yeah, that's awesome.

I know about your kids and I'm

stalking all of them.

I know I well, I don't.

He doesn't strike me.

As no, I know.

He's very nice.

It seems like a sweet, very,

very nice, yeah.

You'd be nice to Bobby.

I like Bobby.

Yeah, I like Bobby.

Should have taken a taken a

picture.

Taking a picture, taking a.

Picture Take a picture with

Bobby.

Yeah, go.

Ahead, you were going to say

something, You held back.

No, I thought about the photos I

took, but we can get into that

later.

So the show went well.

I mean, we started the build

out, we were ahead of schedule

or we arrived.

We showed up 17 days in advance.

17 days in advance.

You know everything.

I'm ready.

To go, honestly, we, I don't

think we could have showed up.

I think that was the perfect

time for us to show up because

the next day when we got going,

yeah, I don't think, how would

you have arrived that day and

already like.

Run all the errands and stuff we

did.

Yeah, we'd already been done.

Food and checked in the hotel,

divvy up who's staying with who.

Yeah, right.

Oh, we had determined that

prior.

To well when they didn't know

it.

Though, yeah, did.

You guys bring home the air

mattress or did you leave it

there?

I think Chet left it.

He's probably done with it by

that.

Point, yeah.

Poor Chet.

Sleeping on the air, Mattress

Poor.

Chet.

Didn't trade with him for a

night or anything.

Like hey, your back might hurt.

Why don't you have the bed not

sleep on the?

Road couldn't even sleep.

He was like, he kept going in

and out of the room.

He was like running up and down

the hallway at one point and

then.

What?

That's probably how he got sick,

because he didn't sleep at all.

Probably.

Yeah, he was definitely ran

down.

You should just let him sleep in

your bed with you.

I tried that in the beginning.

Didn't like the cuddle.

No, I told him I was like, bro,

you can have half the bed, like

that way you can get some sleep.

He's like, no, I'll just do the

air matches.

I'm like, OK, I'm telling you,

you can have half the bed.

I asked him if he was OK.

He's never going to say no, oh.

He's one of those guys I.

Would have got him a room.

He's just that guy.

He's not going to say no.

I would have got him a room.

Oh well, the next year I was

very uncomfortable.

You can get your own room.

Why do I have to get my own?

You're going to get one for him.

He's handling the sales.

I was handling everything else.

You were?

Yes, very intricate part of the

operation.

It was going to get sensitive,

you said.

Did you have a problem staying

in the room with me?

No, no, it's fine.

Was there any issues?

No, honestly.

No.

Why were there?

What issues?

No, I don't know.

Once we worked.

Out there was an.

Issue There was one who, but we

worked out the night time music

chit chat thing that was.

Going on, Yeah, yeah.

I like the meditation music.

Well, the music is fine.

The first night there was

talking, I thought you were

mumbling in your sleep over.

There I got rid of the positive.

What the hell was he talking

about all night I got?

Rid of the.

I got rid of the.

Like instead of a night terror,

now he Mumbles.

He got nervous.

Yeah, I didn't know what's going

on well.

Yeah, I enjoy it.

So I like the music.

The music was nice.

The harpy.

It's a lot better than Greg's

gagging, coughing and snoring.

Well, I heard the same thing

from.

You.

I heard the rhinoceros, Sarah.

That was one night from me.

Greg was.

But he wasn't it.

He wasn't the same.

It was almost like Greg was

gagging in his sleep.

Well, maybe Chet was up off the

floor.

I I booked my flight to

Nicaragua.

Oh, you did finally.

Did you get your passport all

worked out?

Squared away.

That's for you.

We're going to try to do a show

from there.

Are we?

I thought that's why we decided.

OK, that's what you're saying.

Yeah, that's.

I mean, I just have a lot of

great ideas.

I just living through life.

Yeah, that's great.

We don't have a Phil's Fun Fact

unless you can make one up as

you as you're putting on the

mask over there.

Our Phil's Fun Fact team sort of

fell short this week.

They quit.

Apparently.

They're done.

Apparently it was just a three

weeks.

That's why there's a big X over

here on the paper.

You do not understand.

That's what that means.

How about the fact?

OK, let's let's get into PCA

here.

OK, All right.

How about the fact that Luciano

has no idea who you are and he

takes a picture?

Of he had, yes.

He has no idea who I am, and he

took a.

Picture of that was absolutely.

He was walking back around by

our booth, probably come back

from the bathroom I'm guessing.

But he was going the long way

through and I saw him and went,

oh Mr. Morales can I have a

photo?

He looked at my name tag and Oh

yeah, it's or.

Yes, you've got.

Of course, of course.

It is a great honor for.

Me take a picture so bootstick

and picture and.

Yeah, Jack.

Jack didn't get the joke.

No, Jack was hurry.

No, you heard his feelings.

Yeah, he was upset.

But I also got a photo with

David Garofalo, my new best

friend.

He's now my friend.

Yeah, but he knew who you.

Were he knew who I was That's

right.

Soon as I said my name is Mike

Palmer.

Oh I know.

Yeah I take picture No, no he's

not Chinese.

But he said I'll take picture he

goes perfect.

It's Joe one and I'm two You

hold up one.

I'll hold up two.

No, you're a.

Funny man.

So you guys are buddies now?

Yeah, now we're buddies.

He's the besties.

That's a great #2 show.

It's a great #2 show.

Great #2 show.

He's a very nice man.

He got the chance.

That was funny.

He was out there making friends.

Sure, yeah.

Where'd you get a picture of it?

What else?

You didn't take pictures anyway?

Oh, a lot of people.

I have watched some of your

interviews.

They were quite well, but a lot

of them aren't up yet.

Really.

Smoking tobacco.

And I'm in that one.

Are you?

Yes.

Matt asked me to photobomb, so I

walked across the back, stopped,

lit a cigar, and they kept

walking.

Nice.

Matt asked me to, so I did.

And then Cigar Phil or Cigar

Pete or something like that.

I forget.

I I apologize.

It was a good interview.

Bob the Scar guy?

No.

It wasn't Bob.

No, no, just that one.

The only one I saw.

Oh, OK.

So maybe they're like us.

Maybe one guy's hoarding the

footage and everybody can't get

it done that.

Could be it.

Thank you very much.

Somebody's holding all the

Intel.

Somebody's holding all the data.

How about that cigar only has

their first one up because I was

looking for that one.

They did send the the lady with

all the giant boots and the

piercings and things.

Dissident.

Yeah, that one.

That one.

Yeah, that's cool.

Coop's put up all his photos,

but he didn't take a photo of

you, Coop.

We didn't take a photo.

No, we got an interview with Guy

Fieri.

We did.

It wasn't really good.

We don't have that yet either.

Fuck man.

God damn, bro.

How does it look?

Have you viewed it or?

Yeah, I did and that was good.

Yeah.

The quality, everything, Yeah.

That sound quality went fine,

the.

Because it was not loud.

The Justin Andrews one.

Well, there was some big

announcement right in the middle

of the.

Interview that one won't see the

light of day.

Oh, go in the file with Pedro.

That was terrible.

We could dub in.

I haven't.

Let's let's dub in.

Take a small piece of it and you

be you and I'll be Jess and

Andrews.

We'll dub in something.

OK, that'd be funny.

It wasn't.

Because we'd like to fuck with

him.

Sure.

That what we can say and.

Then we have the socket

interview.

Didn't that one went well?

I think I didn't listen.

To look at that one, you didn't

notice your hand in front of his

face.

I haven't.

Like he talked with his hands

and in the angle I was at every

time he put his hand up, it was

right in front of his face,

between me and the camera.

Well, he.

Was he was in story mode?

Right.

Oh, no.

That's just the way he talked.

You know, he's very animated

with his hands.

But because of the angle, I was

forcing it because Mikey was on

a couch and he was on a chair.

His hand kept going in front of

soccer's face.

Duke He's already looking for

the interview.

Is he?

Yes.

I love Duke.

He's a very nice man.

I like him too.

He's a good guy the minute it

goes up.

It's a very nice man, I.

Have a problem with the booth

locations.

Like to talk about the booth

location?

OK, let's get into some of your

PCA quorums they had.

All the big guys were more down

the middle.

Yeah, So everybody just run on

those.

So that's where the crowd

stayed, right?

Why?

Why don't they sort of divide up

and make the big guys in like a,

you know, divide them up so the

crowd moves through the smaller

company?

That's the way that they have

the systems built.

So it's a point to your system.

So the more points you spend,

right, the more ad space you

buy, the more marketing dollars,

right?

Invest.

The priority space goes to you.

OK, but why can't they assign

space?

I mean, what difference does it

make if Placencia's in the back

corner or smack in the middle?

You're gonna go there if you

wanna see Placencia, yeah.

Everybody's gonna go see

Placencia.

Well, and with Gurka, if they're

gonna bring in Mike Tyson, put

them in the back, they gotta

walk through everybody to get to

that.

You gotta remember that.

This is a ego driven industry

brother.

Why can't PCA make they say hey?

Milk goes in the back.

Everybody's buying milk,

motherfucker.

You're going in the back.

You know and help out, you know.

You're right.

'Cause the middle was always.

Grow the industry.

The Rocky Patel, The Placencia,

The Arturo Fuente, The JC

Newman, the Even Foundation,

which isn't a big company, but

they were in the front.

Front and center, yeah.

Right Gurka, all these guys with

the big things do do like four

corners, bump, bump, leave the P

the BCA guys over there on the

side, nobody goes there anyway.

Who cares about that?

The boutique cigar association.

There was, there wasn't a huge

crowd.

You know what?

You're not wrong, right?

You're not wrong.

You know I agree with some of

what you're saying, right?

Well, part of me says I don't

want to deal with these

motherfucking retailers that

aren't fucking serious anyways,

though.

Well, maybe.

Because like a lot of them are

going to be, well, you know, I

sell my mainstream bullshit and

like, OK, and you're not going

to invest and try and build a

brand either.

So what are you going to do?

You're going to come by my

fucking booth and then just take

some cigars from me just to get

some free cigars?

Well, you're going to have to a

little more wedding out by you.

It might involve a little more

work with you, but you might get

more.

That's probably true.

I've got friends who have retail

things and, well, we couldn't

find you or.

We meant is that what happened?

Sometimes.

Or we meant to come by, but we

got delayed somewhere else and

we just ran out of time.

Yeah, I.

Had a couple lasts.

Where, I mean, so we had, you

had to have looked for us to

find.

Us and but look, we've had new

retailers look.

For us?

Yes, you did.

That's my.

Point.

So, like, how?

How fucking so?

Like, I'm sorry.

I'm cursing a lot today, I

guess.

How?

How committed were these guys to

go and actually see the brand?

Well, they really they they

probably weren't, to be honest.

But I mean, if you're walking by

Fuente and you go, oh, there's

those Polish guys, I wanted to

stop there Or, you know, you,

you, they're on your, they're on

your list.

And after you get done with

Fuente, you were there for an

hour or a drone, because he went

to go get your samples and he,

you know, had three.

Maybe well.

Before he came back.

So go get samples.

Oh, good samples right back.

So, dude, I don't know.

You know what I mean?

Like, give me the real ones.

I want the dudes that are going

to go out and be like, hey, I

love what you're doing.

You know, I had a great

conversation with the Cigars for

you guy at, you know, after the

show, he called me and we, when

we spoke for about 20 minutes,

it's a new, it's a retailer.

It's a new retailer who signed

up with us.

He's in Houston, TX.

And you know, he's excited about

the brand going into the shop.

And you know, after I had the

conversation, I'm like, fuck

yeah, this is this is awesome.

This is a guy I want to work

with, you know, and I'm looking

forward to learning more about

him and kind of going going down

that route.

And you know, look, the fact of

the matter is we had two cigars

that had top 25 on half wheel,

right?

Not one, right.

We fucking had two. 2.

Right, that's huge.

Yes.

And the real retailers say, hey,

you had two on the top 25 a half

wheel, right?

You're obviously doing something

right.

I want to work with you right.

The other retailers that aren't

that committed that kind of

screw around maybe they don't

feel that way right.

Hey, you know and and don't get

me wrong like there's there's so

many different levels here that

we that we can break down as far

as a retailer and stuff like

that.

There are retailers that are

excited about the cigar still

buy the cigar and don't promote

the sale right.

Like hey, this isn't some like,

OK, what are you like I'm doing

a lot on my end at this brain.

So what are we what are you

missing and how can I help you

implement those things right.

I think that that is a major

thing that oh sure, but but

there's also this whole fucking

thing section of retailers that

are just like, well, if you

don't, if I don't buy it and it

doesn't flip right away, the

cigar's a waste of time.

You know, like.

They just want the quick fix.

Yeah, I don't.

Sure they want, they want to

say.

It's gonna sell by itself.

And and look, that'll happen

sometimes with your SBCS and

your war bears and some of these

limited small run stuff.

But the reality is that if

you're not educating your

consumer on our core stuff and

all of these other things, then

I don't need to give you the

samples, brother.

I don't need to give, you know,

and not only do I need to give

you samples, I don't need to

open you up, I don't need the

$1500 sale to have have it all

sit so that you're like, well.

Hear from you again.

Your cigars don't sell, right?

Yeah, I guess not.

They sell in a lot of other

places that believe in the brand

and and invest.

Sure, it takes work on their

end.

It does.

It takes work on more than one

Ave.

It doesn't.

But I'm not a guy that's going

to say, hey, it's just up to

you.

Because it's not because it's

not just up to them.

No, it's up to me too.

It's the 333 thing that Pete

talked about.

Right.

Like the brand has to build and

market, right.

But you know there has to be

point of contact with the

retailer and the brand, right.

And then the retailer has to

educate and sell as well, right.

So you have to have those three

things kind of working in

unison, absolutely.

So you know, as much as I want

to be in a better spot to some

degree, right, I don't know how

much of A better spot I want.

I like, I don't know how much

more between people I want to

be.

Like I already looked at New

Orleans and we're going to be

between Padron and Jewel State.

We're in the middle.

Oh yeah, yeah.

Oh, that's.

Because the way that that

convention lays out, it's more

horizontal.

Oh, long ways instead of deep.

Yeah.

So it has to be kind of spread

out to some degree.

That means we're going to have

loud music blasting.

What?

So that's it really wasn't that

bad going by Dru estate they

because they build the high

walls I.

Don't know about that man,

because when I was in the PCA

booths looking at space.

Well, that was just right.

Oh, because it was right behind.

Yeah.

So if you're sitting right there

and you're trying to do an

interview.

Right by one of the openings.

It's just going to be

problematic.

Maybe we set up an interview

booth somewhere.

Else maybe we tell them no

music, no music.

Druid State No music, Jonathan.

Yeah, you can shut that down.

There's one person with like

maracas or something and.

Maybe just a little clicky

thing.

Yeah, No speakers, yeah.

Yeah.

Right.

No speakers.

Yeah.

More booze.

Oh, maybe we get the overflow

booze somebody said we're giving

away.

Oh.

Gentle singing.

Oh, that.

'D be nice, like your nighttime

music.

Yeah, like my Yeah, like some

gentle meditation music.

Positive affirmations.

And Jonathan, probably like

that.

Yeah, saw him quite a bit

walking around.

Did you more than usual?

Oh, I didn't see him at all.

Didn't see him well, you.

Didn't leave you, hardly left

the booth.

I did hardly leave the booth.

I was very busy.

You were.

You did a lot of interviews.

I did a lot of interviews,

right?

El Septimo came out with another

lighter this year.

Did they?

More economically feasible?

Can't.

We talk about our lighter.

It's only Oh yeah.

Well, Speaking of which.

'Cause we didn't what?

I want you to play all the Matt

Booth interviews right like from

this portion on.

Right.

Oh, you want to put them in

right here at what?

What's the time stamp over

there?

2537.

All right.

So 2537?

We're going to pause right now.

We're going to put in the Matt

booth.

All right, here they are and go,

OK, And now we're back.

Now we're back.

Did you?

Enjoy all of those interviews.

That was very nice.

Maybe we'll call Matt and see

see how he feels about.

Oh, and see how he feels about

the interview.

It'd be nice because he did

interviews with a lot of people.

Yeah.

Should we maybe schedule things

for New Orleans?

What do you want to schedule?

Interviews.

Do you want to schedule?

Interviews.

Well, you need to come to do the

interview.

That's the problem.

Yeah, you're right.

But it's both of your podcasts.

Yeah, yes.

But it's hard with that little

camera.

What am I going to hold up?

But it's your podcast.

Well, I interview people.

I'll hold it.

That you're a successful

podcaster.

Let's see if it's.

Not it's not my podcast,

Michael.

It's yours, as you told

everybody, for four days.

Let's see if he answers.

Is it connected to the board?

Yeah, it's not ringing.

This is riveting.

I know that he was in like Japan

or some shit.

So it's in Japan?

Yeah, he's overseas over.

It's night time.

He's sleepy.

You're just just calling you're

Oh yeah, he's oversea.

Your Facebook calling.

No, this is his regular cell.

Oh, he's not going to answer

sounds.

It's going to be like it's

costing 50 bucks if he answers.

It sounds international.

Yeah, but Justin Andrew's doing

for it.

Oh yeah, charge it to the.

Charge it to the.

Charge it to the game.

Justin Andrews.

Looking at his expenses now,

what the hell is this phone

call?

Oh, it's Monday afternoon.

I know who it was.

Well, Justin Andrews explicitly

said to me.

Call Justin Andrews.

Let's try and.

Don't call me on Monday.

Justin never answers.

I know he's in the optimizing

optimization of map.

Lead optimization.

Yeah, well, now it's almost like

a merging Monday meeting.

Oh, he's in company.

He's in the United States.

Center I'm in all car around

it's.

A different tone, huh?

Right, this is regular, he's not

good answer.

There's no way he's in a fucking

meeting.

He's always in a meeting.

Your.

Call has been forwarded to

voicemail.

The person you're trying to

reach is not available.

At the tone, please record your

message.

Just leave a message when you

have finished recording.

You may hang up.

Hey, this is Matt Booth.

I'm stuck here in Japan.

Apparently I've done something

illegal.

I need you to come bail me out.

Oh, you sound like a hillbilly,

Matt.

Matt Booth, Hillbilly.

All right.

Hey, it's Jonathan Drew.

Hey, it's me.

It's me.

We saw him spend a lot of time

in the crotch booth.

Rumors started.

Oh, Justin Andrews.

Yeah, there was no.

White backroom meeting. 3

acquisitions or whatever and

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

There's no acquisitions there.

And by the way, all the rumbling

there he's talking about about

Titan Day Bronze.

They're just handling

distribution for them.

Oh, oh, that's all that means.

You found that out.

Yeah.

I mean.

If you read the article, but I

guess I didn't read the article

and you know, oh.

You know, I was a little

underwhelmed by the half wheel

coverage of the show.

They came in kind of late.

Well, Charlie did.

No, he had family allegations,

which OK, that's fine.

But so far not a lot is come out

as far as video goes.

Really, man, They did the One

Day 2 day three day recap.

I got to tell you, man, there

were a couple things that were

really that really helped me,

which were really kind of, look,

it's a process for me going out

there and stuff and, you know,

being away from the wife and

kids and just like the anxiety

and the depression, you go

through all these highs and lows

when you're out on, out on this

fucking thing, right?

And you work your ass off the

whole time.

So, well, not the whole time,

but you know, a lot of.

Majority of the time.

Yeah, it's very stressful.

It really is.

I still love doing it.

But there were two things that

happened to me.

One is Brooks from Halfwell came

up to me and he goes, man, dude,

I got to tell you that

Connecticut was fucking amazing,

you know.

And I'm like, thanks so much

bro.

And he's like, you know, it goes

to show how much better you've

gotten over time.

I go, I got to be honest, I

blended it 10 years ago and I

was like, you did, I'm like,

yeah, but you know, you are

right between me blending the

first blend, which I love, I'm

smoking it now And that

Connecticut, I had definitely

learned things about blends,

right.

Right.

So, you know, so thanks man.

I really appreciate that.

And I'm, you know, and he's

like, you're really working your

ass off.

I'm like, thanks dude, you know,

it's my podcast.

I'm very successful.

Said yeah man, I'm really I, you

know I give it everything I got

and then a little bit more,

right.

So you know I'm like so the more

medium more exposure I can do

and like thank you for all the

coverage and I I'm really

grateful for that And he's like,

you know, let me get somebody

else here over here too so we

can do another interview.

Let me get.

Let me see if I can bring.

Oh yeah, he sent somebody.

Yeah, that's right.

Which was fucking awesome for

me.

I'm like, man, that is, that was

a great feeling, right?

When somebody else recognizes

all of your hard work, right?

And then they try and help you,

right?

You know for no other reason of

hey, let me just try and help.

You Did you do an interview with

Brian, like a Cameron interview?

No, with Brooks.

I mean Brooks.

No, he was just.

I don't know.

He just popped by.

Because Brian came by later and

took photos.

Yeah, no, I didn't.

They just popped by.

Oh, just to say hi, so.

So there was that.

And then the other thing that

was really, I was feeling kind

of fucking like, and we stopped.

Cigar.

Dan.

Nick had decided that we were

going to be storage for his

backpack.

Oh yeah, And he had just.

Left it there.

You left it there after the

booth.

The end of the night, it was

still there.

After the booth was closed, I'm

like, hey, so I'm just going to

put your fucking backpack on

eBay or some shit, right?

He's like, I'm at the, I'm at

the the.

The second gala.

The yada yada, yeah.

The the the Knicks giving a

speech.

Can you bring it to me?

So I I'm not sure.

Whatever.

So we put the backpack down when

we was going to bring it to him

and Michael Herklatz was there,

right?

And he was giving out his cigars

or whatever, right?

And he just goes, hey, man, just

wanted to know I appreciate I,

you know, I see all the stuff

that you do.

I, you know, I appreciate all

your your authenticity and your

hard work.

And, you know, it means a lot.

And, you know, it makes me want

to emulate and do certain things

that you're doing as well.

So keep it up.

Oh, wow.

Yeah, he didn't say that to

everybody.

No.

That's nice.

I just, I mean, 'cause he was

Jet called to Mike and he act

like he knew Jet too.

But I didn't see him talking to

you.

No.

He stepped aside to come and

talk.

Oh, it's nice.

Yeah, so that.

Was a oh, Michael Herklat hi fan

of the show.

He's a kind of fan of his show.

That's nice.

Yeah, he's got the bill.

Oh yeah, he's got a Jet.

He does have a Jet lifetime

goals right there.

So, you know, So I I reached out

to him and you know, I now have

his phone number too.

Look at that.

Let's call it.

I bet you, he answers.

The White Party.

I would give him more of a heads

up though.

We're not at that.

I don't know what we're asking.

We're not at.

That level of abuse, you know.

So you still have keys to the

town now?

You still go over there?

You still go over there and hang

out.

And make it the ever.

Floors.

If I walked up and said I was

your friend, can I get in?

I know my I.

Know my girl?

Glad.

Change his phone number.

That was cool.

The one thing I did want to do

is I wanted to do an interview

with Skip and that never

happened.

No, we could never.

You let's call him right now.

Why?

So we can get rid of killed.

He's he's home sitting with the

monkeys.

All right, I'm going to

Facebook.

Call him.

Let's see if he answers.

And we'll do our quick little is

he?

Behind time or forward?

It's the same idea.

That's our third call time.

Yeah, but so far, nobody's not

gonna answer.

Nobody fucking answers.

No, not answer.

All right, Call.

Lightweight, heavy.

He must still be sleeping.

No, call Jason.

Jason.

Oh, Jason.

Oh yeah.

He's supposed to pick you up.

Jason's.

Phone number Oh dude, does he?

I do.

I have Jason.

'S phone number now you think?

He answers.

You better fucking answer.

Well, after what happens.

So as soon as we pull up to

Jason, I'm instantly breaking

his balls.

Oh, you know what the worst

thing was?

You called him Danny.

That was that was the worst.

Yeah, that was.

No, but you know what, man?

He went.

He took it pretty well.

He.

Did he?

Did he was.

He was very he was very nice and

he let his piece of shit out.

He.

Took the abuse, He took the

abuse.

He accepted it and he took all

of it, yeah.

So that was good.

It was so funny before you met

him.

So he was sitting downstairs on

me.

And I was like, oh, who are you?

He's like, oh, I'm Jason.

I'm like, are you the new guy?

He's like, yeah, I was like, oh,

you're in a lot of trouble.

And he's like, what do you mean?

I'm like, well, you remember

that one day when everybody kept

getting phone calls because you

didn't answer and you're

supposed to.

He's like, oh, I think I was in

a meeting.

I'm like, no, no, no, you were

supposed to be on the show.

He goes, yeah, but Skip had me.

I'm like, it doesn't matter.

You're still going to get a lot.

The real question is.

The real question is who do you

want to deal with more?

Well, to be honest, us I would

deal with.

Us probably want to do.

With us?

Well, I just.

I had to make him feel it.

Yeah.

Make that motherfucker.

I told him as soon as you come

down, I was like, he's going to

fucking give it to you.

He's like, Nah, he'll be good.

As soon as you came down, you're

like, oh, is this the fucking

guy?

Is this the motherfucker that

blew us off?

I think he said.

Blew me off just to be a.

That blew me off.

Yeah, probably, I probably said.

Blew me off.

This is all about me.

I only care about me.

It was for four days.

It's so odd 'cause you're

normally so good about that.

Only care about me.

So good about that.

I'm having some mental issues,

Michael.

What the fuck do you want from

me?

I'm struggling.

Nothing, Michael.

Nothing.

No, it's it's all yours.

So I went to the media.

Well, what do we do every day?

We'll see.

We only really went somewhere

one night, didn't we?

Oh, no.

We we had the the Hawaiian

dinner, which was amazing.

We crushed the sushi.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Adrian.

Some reason Adrian asked

yesterday, did you guys go for

your traditional sushi?

I go.

Well, first night, first night

we did That crushed the sushi,

$26 worth of sushi.

That could probably cost $7580.

Enough to make me nauseous.

Yes.

And then what do we do?

We went no, we had the with the

omerta.

I went to the America House.

Yeah.

America house that.

Was really cool.

I tried making crab potato salad

over the weekend.

Yeah, it's good.

Didn't work out, huh?

No, I don't know, 'cause I

bought the Southern.

She might have done the New

York.

I gotta.

I gotta play with it and get

her.

Just she.

Probably made it from scratch.

I'm sure she did, but I'm not

going out.

She probably had real crab too.

I bought the Krab crab.

Oh yeah, the imitation.

Stuff.

I like that stuff.

Apparently not, no.

No, I I like it by itself.

No, it was good, but it wasn't

as good as hers.

Yeah.

So it may probably never will

be.

And then what else did we do?

We went to dinner with Skip.

Dinner with Skip with the Giant

Table 70. 5000 people.

From Game of Thrones.

Table the game.

Of Thrones table, yeah.

And then the media house.

And then we did the media house.

It's only four nights.

Well, there was one night they

went to 8 lounge.

Yeah.

Did we go out to eat?

There was another night.

You guys were tired.

No, one night we ate at that egg

place in the hotel.

Oh, yeah, yeah, we kept.

At like at midnight.

Or something.

Let's fucking eat here.

Let's get this over with.

So I mean we don't hang out and

party till all hours at the.

Market.

No.

I'm like some people.

Oh no.

Some.

People have been out really

late.

We called in every night at

midnight.

One night I think I went down at

11.

One night it went in before you.

No.

Yeah, Did you?

One night.

Just one night.

Oh, you.

You Irish exited on me like you

son of a bitch.

That was at the, that was at

the.

Crystal Bar at the local bar.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I go.

Where's Palmer?

Yeah, Chet.

Chet had bought us a bucket of

beer.

I had one beer.

And Chet said he Irish exited

you all right, cool.

I'm then I'm leaving.

Yeah, I Irish.

Goodbye.

Once I realized you were gone,

there was.

A lot of people there.

It was going to take me 30

minutes to say goodbye to

everybody, so I just Irish

goodbye.

You could have just text.

Hey, I'm leaving.

I'm like perfect.

No.

Then it's not an Irish goodbye.

Just let me know so I could

leave too.

Well, you obviously weren't

paying attention, but you didn't

notice I was going.

I was hanging out with Sam.

Right.

Yeah.

I didn't remember you being

there.

I was trying to tell Adrian what

we did every night.

I I didn't remember you being

there that night.

But you were.

You're right.

You were.

You were talking about you're

over there sitting with Sam

Senizafina, coming out with two

more Vitalas, he said.

One for sure.

I heard about the box press,

which should be exciting.

Which is good.

Yeah, they're doing a great job,

man.

They're working really hard.

They are.

They are, and they're such nice

people.

They really are.

They are.

I mean, they show up.

Anything excite you about the

show?

I mean, I probably got out

second to most from the booth.

I would go and do laps or trips

to the bathroom and do a lap.

Who was first over there?

That guy?

Yeah, party guy.

Yeah, the party guy.

Party all the time.

Party guy.

I'm gonna go see his peoples,

yeah.

Peoples.

No, not really.

I mean, I didn't get a whole lot

of cigars from people.

I did.

I did get them a Caliph Blue and

I smoked over the weekend, which

I was surprised.

I liked, 'cause I don't like any

other stuff normally.

So I don't know what it was

about it, but it went back.

That was good.

It.

Was good.

The new knuckle sandwich is

good.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

The new knuckle sandwich.

Oh, we went.

That's it.

We went to stop.

By.

Espinoza.

House.

Yeah, yeah.

And then I heard Phil ask Jack

where you were staying.

Right.

Yeah, later in the week.

So hey, where you staying?

Yes, Tyler too.

And Jack said.

Are you fucking serious?

It wasn't Jack.

It was?

Tyler asked.

He said.

Where are you staying?

Yeah, but I asked him that

because I was going to ask him

if he took the Tesla loop

because I thought they were.

He wouldn't need to.

Which apparently that was

supposed to be free with your

PCA pass.

Oh, really?

But it wasn't.

It's $5 it.

Was $5, Yeah, it was 5.

Dollars.

Did you?

Oh, you didn't get the ticket

that day.

You said it was close.

Yeah, I went down there like,

well, this is awesome.

There's nobody here.

This is going to be great.

It was close and it was there's

only like 6 cars, so it wasn't

that fast.

Yeah, I read the Half Wheels

article on it this morning.

Look, man.

Was it those ones with the

little wingy thing?

Listen.

Listen, listen.

As as technologically advanced

as it sounds, at the end of the

day it's a glorified fucking

subway.

It was a tiny little tunnel.

You know there's no.

And there's not like 2 tunnels.

There's in and out.

It's the same tunnel, so they

have to time the cars, Yeah.

So at the end there's a split.

You go this way and then you

come back and go through.

Maybe that's why there's only so

many.

Cars there's you know and I

heard that some of the drivers

are complete asses that they're

yeah, I'm I'm not surprised they

they live the in the underworld.

Right.

You know what I mean In the

tunnel.

Like what do you Just because

it's an electric vehicle doesn't

mean shit.

It's not a nice tunnel.

Looks like it's unfinished.

Really.

I saw the video.

Yeah, part of it.

It's like the aluminum foil

insulations up as you go by.

And really?

Yeah.

Oh, did you get some time now?

Interesting.

I I gotta tell you though, I

hate this.

I hate the Las Vegas Convention

Center.

I don't like it either.

It's it's, we talked.

Well, it was dumpy as fuck.

It is, and they couldn't clean

up the section from from the

door to the convention.

Yeah, they just don't give a.

Shit, they don't care.

I mean the lady, the the only

one, the front.

Door.

The one lady was super late

until you make her mad.

I heard her going off on

somebody.

Oh yeah, yeah.

Well, don't fuck around, right?

You know what I mean?

Is that the same same Convention

Center that the will win the

year before Palazzo?

No.

That's a different one, the.

Sands Convention Center is

attached to the Palazzo, so you

just got to walk downstairs.

That's where it was last year.

Yeah.

The year before it was there.

Again, right.

Probably.

I think so.

Yeah.

So you.

I mean, the here's the shitty

part.

Like like you staying at the

Resorts World, which is

considered the PCA, yada yada.

Right.

And it's close to the Convention

Center, right?

OK.

Oh, it still.

Takes forever, right?

So yeah, it's a it's a 1520

minute drive.

Right, right.

For like 3 miles if even that.

And it's super frustrating,

right?

It's super frustrating.

I'd much rather.

And there was construction and

some of the roads were closed.

And and listen, look, to be

honest, I'm down.

I was down a leg, right?

Right.

So I have my scooter, which is

frustrating too, So I'm sure

that that added to it.

But fuck man, you know, jeez,

let's just give me back to

Sands.

Put us back in the Palazz.

Why do they?

Why do they switch it?

It's.

Probably less.

Sands probably wants nothing to

do with the cigar industry.

Probably is what I would think.

The amount of complaints I'm

sure that they get with every Oh

yeah.

Right, Yeah.

People smoking in the in the

casino and there's always

somebody smoking on the walk

back and forth.

Yeah, it's just sometimes it was

on.

Wasn't smoking allowed in every

casino?

Yeah, but not as many cause the

circle bars where we would hang

out, so it would be four or five

deep around the bar, plus the

bars packed.

Everybody's smoking cigars, so

everybody's walking by going.

Yeah, but realistically, you

know, as crazy as it sounds, the

Resorts World Hotel, the way

that it's designed, you know, we

all took over that center bar

and it didn't look extremely

overwhelming, like you were

almost you weren't, you weren't

in the hotel section where

people had to get through to

you, through you to get to their

hotels.

Right, right.

That's the difference.

Yeah.

People had to walk by to get to

the rooms at the other place.

That is.

Right.

It almost seemed like their

downstairs, yeah, their

downstairs casino area was

bigger.

It did seem bigger, yeah.

That's what I was going to say.

Like, even.

Like the silly mashed together.

Yeah, yeah.

And you could smoke anywhere

down there.

Yeah, nobody gave us a hard time

at all.

You just couldn't smoke in the

restaurants.

Right.

Yeah, I like that they have that

vegan place that nobody sat at

and ate.

There's always.

Yeah, that.

There was hardly everybody in

there.

Want to know who wrote that one?

Yeah, you know what?

We're going to do All vegan

restaurants.

Somebody complained or

something, they got to have the

option.

Yeah, so that fucking three

people could sit there, right?

There was a vegan place.

Yeah, that one that was on the

corner.

How much you want to bet that

shit's gone within like a year?

Unless vegan takes takes a big

up uptick.

Unless all of a sudden,

everybody, everybody.

'S getting the shot, bro.

You don't need.

Everybody goes vegan anymore.

Everybody goes vegan.

I doubt it.

Get the impossible for the.

Impossible.

Burger.

It tastes like estrogen.

Some lady at the airport was

asking what's the Impossible

Burger?

I leaned over and go.

It's plant food lady you don't

want.

It want nothing to do with it.

Take the chemically based

fucking show it off.

El Septimo had another lighter

this year.

Oh, you talked about that.

I died.

Sorry about that.

First it was 10 million and 5

million and this one is 1500, so

it's still, you know,

affordable.

Oh, it's it's still the value

price and we did, we did obtain

this.

That's right.

Tell that story.

Go ahead, tell the story.

So we stole.

This.

No, no.

It was a gift.

So of all the interviews that

you just saw with Matt Booth,

obviously he didn't do fucking

any of them.

And so he's just kind of a sea

of disappointment,

unfortunately.

So we went to go see him a

couple times and he was always

super busy and I don't really

give a fuck.

I'm just like whatever, dude,

you know, if you don't have

fucking time, whatever.

And he goes, here, take this.

So we have this hellraiser.

Hellraiser cube.

Cigar lighter that and.

Then he went and took one off

somebody else's.

Day, yeah, he said.

Here, take this.

Is that OK?

So this.

Is Would you like this?

This is now we should but we

should put like peas on here or

something.

Some kind of decals or

something.

Get rid of the.

No, get rid of the Ms. Yeah,

it's pretty dope that way, you

know.

We can wrap it in paper.

If you move it around the right

way, you do unlock the gates of

hell.

That's right.

So we're looking forward to

that.

Unfortunately, we're already in

hell, so.

It's the gate to get out.

Maybe quick, quick spin it.

Make it move.

So we have that.

But let's not.

Let's not shortchange here.

There's a giveaway.

From From Jack.

We're going to try to do more

giveaways now, are we?

That's what you said I.

Think it's a great idea and now

we can't comment below.

All right, Chair.

Yeah, but now you use the

Instagram.

They're always after.

It's like they're always coming.

Is there a way that you can look

at the subscriber list?

On YouTube?

Yeah, sure, I would imagine.

I guess maybe somewhere?

Randomly pick.

Dorando pickle, I don't know.

If you have any ideas as to how

we can give shit away, just

please reach out to Palmer and

let us know 'cause it's his

podcast Mike at Mike and Mike

Productions.

It is now because all the people

aren't here anymore, so now it's

back.

Oh my God, at the end of the

day.

You're the one that keeps

bringing it up.

I'd already let it go after the

joking at the beginning.

At the end of the day, people

acknowledge it as my podcast.

It's not that I was oh, it's not

that I'm trying to shit on you,

but say, oh and you have a

podcast.

I would go.

That's right.

We have.

You know, no, you would say I

have.

A No, I was just thinking about

delivering the best content and

giving it 100%.

When I'm fucking exhausted and

I'm tired and all of these

things, I just want to deliver.

No, I'm.

I am calm.

No, you're not.

You're very upset.

You don't want to see me not

calm.

You're not going to do well

tonight on.

How about that cigar?

I'm going to do fucking awesome

on.

How about that cigar?

And then what do you have

Wednesday?

How about that cigar I.

Don't know which one of them

you're on.

All of them.

It doesn't.

It it's the Canadian one.

You're on all of them.

Yeah, it's a Canadian one.

Is there a Canadian time?

Is that a different time?

No.

Is fish stick Loomis going to be

on there?

Is he busy?

Is he busy at baseball again?

Fish stick Loomis will be media

house.

Yes, we're at the media house.

What do you think of the Media

House?

Little little lackluster

compared to past years.

Yeah.

Oh, you were talking about the

rent, the space that they got

it?

Yes.

Yeah.

Well, because apparently Aaron

is the guy.

Aaron is, Yeah.

He couldn't still pick the house

for them.

Aaron, you need to you need to

pick the house.

You not like who picked the

house that freaking.

He was in a bad neighborhood.

There was no windows on that

house at all.

Well, there.

Was windows.

They were just bars.

Oh, is that it?

Bars on the windows, apparently.

They all got very nervous when

we tried to move the fire pit.

Yeah, what you're saying who

picked the house?

Who picked the house?

Yeah, I didn't know I was

supposed to pack heat, right?

Well, even the Espinoza house

the the note said leave car in

garage.

Dude, it's Vegas, man.

Everything.

It's Vegas.

Everything gets stolen over

there.

Yeah, but they have like, nice

up lining.

Nobody takes cash.

Yeah.

Everywhere he tried to buy

something.

I'm sorry, we don't take care.

Who went to a Starbucks?

Or they didn't let people

inside.

Yeah, that's true too.

I mean, come on, dude.

Oh, you don't let people inside.

Yeah, I know.

It's the.

Hotel didn't take.

Cash.

After what happened the last two

months, yeah, no, no more.

Too many deaths, too many

employees getting killed.

It's like, what are you doing

for 15 bucks an hour?

Do you hear him coughing and

Steven on all this other shit?

But he's not sick.

He's not sick.

Yeah, no, it's just like

sunburn.

Sunburn.

Thumb burn on his thighs.

Yeah, special lotion.

We had to go.

Find it's all that DJ.

ING was it is all that DJ, all

that DJ work, all the dancing,

probably thighs rub together.

Yeah.

Probably like this?

Back-to-back to your podcast.

Yeah, back to your podcast,

Michael.

Back to my podcast.

So the media, all the complaints

from the media guys were we

couldn't get in in time.

Couldn't get in, couldn't get

in.

They wouldn't let us in.

We couldn't get in early.

They wouldn't let me in early.

Yeah, couldn't let me in.

I can't get in early and let me

in.

Yeah.

So what was the deal they were

supposed to be able to get in

early?

There was one day that they had

an e-mail that said they could

get in early.

Well, the whole plan was they

were supposed to be able to get

in an hour early.

Not every day.

Yeah.

I thought it was just the one

day.

No, because I checked with our

friend Anto Antoine.

Antoine, he said Saturday.

You're supposed to get in an

hour.

Or is this Saturday?

Saturday I'd originally thought

they got in early everyday

because but when we found that

out it's when Greg got me

another pass because I couldn't

get in on a set up day either.

So me and my cohort over there,

Mr. Thigh would have been

sitting in a hotel room watching

TV.

Oh.

And he would have been rubbing

lotion on his thigh, making me

terribly uncomfortable just

living.

So Greg got his grad.

His I.

Didn't know that.

Yeah, exhibitor passes.

Oh yeah, yeah.

So I never even picked up my

media pass.

Interesting.

There's no reason to at that

point because I would have been

sitting outside most of the time

with Mctavish, apparently.

That would have been hilarious.

That would have been.

You guys wait here.

Hello.

Michael, come get me.

Come get us, please.

Would you have ran?

Would I have ran ran for?

One, yeah.

Like they would have been like,

no, you stay here and he would

have kept going.

He would be like, no, it's

fucking not.

Staying, I would have.

I had to come back to the hotel.

You got to catch me, you.

Got to catch me on the very

face.

Just text Antoine.

Oh, yeah.

Hey, I can't.

You know what he was?

That.

I'm sorry.

I can't help you, man.

I can't get in early either.

I don't know what to tell you.

Just say I'm with the board.

Oh yeah, Apparently that's a

thing.

That's the magic.

That's the magic word.

I'm with the board.

No, no, don't ignore this badge.

I'm with the board.

I'm with the board and I'm on my

way to Modor.

I'm on the I'm.

Very sorry, Mr. Palmer.

I'm on this quest for the ring.

I have the ring.

I have the ring, so I thought

the media house went well,

though there was good

conversations.

Yeah, yeah, They're a bunch of

nice guys and everything.

I that's one of the things that

I really kind of look forward

to.

Yeah, yeah.

And they look forward to his.

How come every time we go, Jay

Davis is there?

He was there last time we went

to.

He he hangs out there.

Every day he's the media guy.

He loves hanging out with the

media guys, guys involved.

They should have him on their

podcast.

I don't know when he's.

Going to be on.

Oh, is he on tonight with you on

developing palettes?

Yeah, him, Abe and me.

Oh, Abe's on two.

Yeah, we did see Abe.

I'm not going to get a word

image with the two.

I'm not going.

To get a who www.

Dub dub oh.

Oh no, wait.

And Sokka.

And Soka.

Yeah, yeah, There's seven of you

out there.

I need to get some images.

Because there's Sokka Jay Davis.

I think so, Abe.

I think it's all 7.

I just got to start holding up

signs.

I'm not going to talk.

Start holding up signs.

You need help me right?

I would like to talk.

I would like to speak.

Brittany needs to get posted

board.

Raise my hand.

It's not going to Oh yeah, you

need a sign.

But the answer yes, no.

Can I talk?

You need yes and no signs.

I should make a Can I talk sign.

Yeah, I have something to say.

Yeah.

Can I talk?

I have something to say.

Is it my turn?

I would.

I too, would like to talk.

Chet and I did that.

That time when we had that zoom

call with that factory Rep That

time I can't.

That was a long time ago because

Chet and I were in here because

we had to divide everybody up

and Chet and I were holding up

signs in here because we

couldn't get.

It.

Can you talk soon?

Yeah, between all those guys,

Those fuckers can.

Talk.

I didn't know it was that many.

It's a panel.

It's going to be a man.

I hate the panel.

It's a panel.

It's too many.

Let me see.

I thought it was just.

Let me tell you what's.

Going on here.

I have a cabbage's phone number.

You want to call him?

Developing Pilates.

Developing Aaron Lomas.

Let's see.

Oh.

Recap show.

Let's see.

Yeah, they didn't have candy

this time either.

At the.

BS Jay Blue Smoke, Dallas.

They had croutons.

Coop, save me some croutons.

Croutons.

He likes to snack on croutons.

I've been known as Pete Johnson,

too.

I don't.

Know if he's on.

There like 17 people on there

I'm going to be on too.

They won't even notice.

It's going to be.

Amazing.

They won't even notice I'm on.

Me and Phil.

Phil's going to wear the rabbit

mask we're both going to be on.

We'll never know.

I like.

Pete.

Pete Johnson.

We never talked to Pete.

I know, but when I?

Never done to You know what?

We should have him on the show.

He's done some panels with me

though.

Oh, has he?

Yeah.

Oh, does he like you?

We seem.

We're we're friends.

We're tight.

Well, tonight, ask him to do the

show.

Pete, can we be friends?

We can be friends Pete out like

all these.

People are like, they're, you

know, can we be friends?

I'm just going to say that right

now.

I'm like.

I we don't really.

I'm friends with with Steve Abe

and Jay Davis.

Pete, can I be your?

Friend can we be?

We've talked a couple times.

Can we be friends, though?

You're going to say that?

You should put that on a sign.

Pete Johnson, Can We Be?

Friends, we don't carry my

brand, so fuck you.

Yeah, man.

Shit, yeah.

Well, you know, see, it tastes

like shit.

I don't know what.

To say it doesn't taste.

Like, Oh my God.

His cigars are actually.

Good.

You wonder why you're looking

around every corner at PZI

Didn't.

Look around the corner at all.

Oh, oh, can we talk about who's

no longer with Luciano?

Oh, you're talking?

Maybe that's Patreon.

Is that Patreon?

You know, I'm not the one that

needs to look around the corner.

And you know, you know, you go,

you're taking fucking blind

shots at people and then all of

a sudden he's back around and

he's like, you know what?

You're out of here.

We can no longer afford to have.

Apparently, we do not want to

cover your expenses.

Cannot, cannot have someone with

your personality on the team.

I'm very sorry.

Plus, you don't play basketball.

You have to have retired with.

Millions, right?

That's right.

I I need you to have money, not

need money.

Yes, you must have.

I need money.

Because my sweatshirt is very

expensive.

I've made it from the swatches

of all the other sweatshirt type

this.

Is from the souls of the men

that I have taken.

Wow, that's great.

You.

Know that's what he sounds like

because I heard him speak now.

Straight to hell.

Yeah, he did speak.

He did speak to us.

He.

Didn't have a space suit though.

It's so funny when you look down

at my name tag.

He's like.

Don't know.

OK, I have no idea.

I have no idea.

Don't tell him anything.

I don't owe him money.

It's funny as hell, I.

Don't owe him money.

This is good.

He's not a collector, not a debt

collector.

It's.

Very good.

I bet you don't.

Sorry, I don't know you.

Don't.

Know.

All right.

That's.

That's all I got.

It was a good show.

I had a good time.

Me too.

Very tired.

And I got sick.

I'm sorry, Jack.

I'm old and I don't know what to

tell you.

Yeah.

Boots.

Got everybody sick.

Boots.

Got everybody sick with the

sunburn.

Right.

Contagious sunburn.

Poor Chet and Chet's dead.

Poor Jet's dying.

It takes him every morning.

Are you alive?

Really need him to, you know,

get back on the road here, you

know?

What's going on?

You know, you had a good run

there.

Chet need you to, you know,

build on this momentum Keep.

It going you?

Got this going.

Maybe you can call people next

year Teen Third, would you?

Do the do the.

Where is it?

Oh God, that's what he sounds

like, that.

He's dead.

All right, Michael, we got a

listener.

Of the week, Bobby Duncan.

Bobby Duncan, listener.

Of the Cigar District.

Cigar District.

What a nice.

One, you know, I just punched in

all the orders from the show and

what I'm going to do is I'm

going to highlight all the new

retailers, right?

So when you have the Retailer of

the Week or whatever, but this

week's Retailer of the week is

bow.

Weevil, Cigar, Emporium,

etcetera and.

Enterprise, AL.

So we are going to be releasing

the Justice did.

You see the video they did

yesterday?

No, it was a very nice video

really.

I was going to, I have semi

reached out to them about doing

a video with them, but you guys

did a good job on your own so

there's no need.

Plus it's in four days.

I really, I thought we had more

time.

I thought there was more.

Time, I thought.

There was more.

It's going to be a lonely drive.

You can FaceTime me.

Nah.

Oh.

Or fuck you, it's my podcast.

Maybe you can FaceTime Pete

Johnson.

Maybe he'll be.

I'll let you know how that goes

tonight.

I'll watch if I remember.

Oh, it's on.

Is that on?

Central time.

It's like if I'm if I'm trying

to collect the Thanos rings of

people, right?

You know, at this point I'm very

close to snapping the finger

because I mean, I have skip,

right?

He's, he's the prize, right?

He's the thumb.

He's the golden goose.

The thumb one.

Big.

The big ring.

The big.

Yeah.

Got Saka.

Saka.

Yeah, That's a big one.

That's a big one.

Nick, Nick Melillo is.

He a ring.

I I think he qualifies.

I mean, you know, I think he's.

On there aid more ring than

nabe.

And ABS on there.

So that you just need one more.

Nabe 6 soccer No herklots now.

Oh, trigger, hurry, You got the

whole, you got the whole hand

out practically there.

Oh, you need the one for the top

of your hand?

Yeah, yeah, I got to get the

fifth.

Yeah.

Maybe that's the P No.

That's the 6th.

Who knows?

Speed Johnson.

They're like Pokemons for me at

this.

Point pokemons you.

Got to catch them all.

Can't believe you got herklots.

That's kind of neat.

Dude, I got to tell you man, it

was amazing.

It was a great feeling.

Surprised now you just now

telling me?

Oh.

Maybe I didn't.

I told you that.

Before.

No.

Yes, I did.

No.

Yes, I did.

No, you didn't.

Yes, I did.

We had our little debriefs every

evening.

You know when it was dark in the

in the room.

And that was never mentioned.

Yes, it was.

Except the last night.

You told me to shut up, so I

did.

I didn't have a sleeping pillow

last night.

You asked me.

I was so chatty.

Why are you talking so much?

Are you?

Talking so much I ran out of

pills yesterday.

Maybe I'm not tired.

Eric Espinoza is one of them.

Oh, what do you get?

You get 2.

Fists in ring, That guy answers.

That guy answers all the time.

Let's call him No, no, we don't

need call him.

We ate up the hour of this this

gibberish and making fun of

lotion.

Magoo over there say Aloe.

He was saying aloe wrong.

Aloe.

He was saying like a Lowe I need

to get some aloe.

I need to.

Get some aloe.

So to prove me wrong, he looked

it up and had his phone say aloe

and it said it said aloe.

It said aloe.

Look, look, look.

Look, look.

Here it is.

It's right here, Allo.

Oh, it's not a lowie.

A lowie.

All right, I need a lowie.

What the fuck is a lowie?

Yeah, plant.

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Yogalite's going to win, and

probably the only.

One that does maybe, I don't

know.

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Oh, hurtful.

Make him earn it.

At least.

For God's sakes, it's not.

Like we get stickers anymore.

That's true, yeah.

What have you done for us

lately, John?

He's out trailing the down to

Herf guys.

Right.

It's all about.

That it's all about the down to

herf guys.

That's right.

Yeah, I feel like we lost them.

It's nice to see them we didn't

even talk about.

That well, we didn't really see

that.

I finally saw them in person.

They were, you know, Now they're

seasoned.

They know.

What they're doing, they don't

need us.

Yeah, they really got to go.

They made Caleb do the

interviews.

They did, yeah.

Did you see the one Matt Booth

thing?

That they did.

He looked at his shoes and he

said.

Oh, he though they did F marry.

Kill the three of them.

Matt Booth.

Looked at his shoes and said I'd

fuck you.

I was like, Oh my God, that was

amazing.

That was the best clip.

That was it.

Go to the down to her page on

the on Instagram and go look at

the Matt Booth clips.

There's two clips, I think the

first one, it's bar none.

The funniest thing I've ever

seen.

Hilarious.

They probably would bucket.

They probably would.

Yeah, very, very small.

Yeah, very gentle.

Yeah.

Soft hands.

All right, guys.

Thank you.

We got to go.

Bye.

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Show Notes

In this episode, we dive into the highlights and low points of the recent Premium Cigar Association trade show in Las Vegas. From exciting new releases and industry trends to disappointing developments, we cover it all. Join us as we discuss the hits, misses, and everything in between from one of the cigar industry's biggest events of the year.