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Hustler Podcast Hello Hi,
Michael.
How are you?
So how is Nicaragua?
What are you allowed to talk
about WAS?
Fantastic.
I have.
I do have some stuff to talk
about.
I will talk about some of it
here.
Something happened to my court.
It's all tangled and I was
getting cut by the thing it.
Looks lovely and I will talk
about some of it on the patron.
There was something that went
down when I was there and I
could not believe this.
I couldn't.
The skip sleeps in the nude.
No, it no, it was nothing like
that.
Don't tell nobody this is for
the.
It was.
It's definitely going to be
Patreon material and well, it
definitely is Patreon.
I just got to have a little
technical problem here while you
just go ahead.
So go ahead so.
He's very bothered right now, I.
Can tell you.
I can tell you a couple things
that.
Well, put on camera 3, nobody
will see me doing.
It I went to, I went to the pre
industry.
It's hard to get free help
anymore.
You know good free help.
Good free help.
What are you talking about?
We took his money.
It's.
Hard to take somebody's money
and not.
OK.
Next.
So long ago.
It was so long ago.
OK.
All right.
I'm good.
You better now you're not
getting the camera.
I'm not happy, but I'm good.
You're not getting the camera
Mikey has on his edge.
Fine, go ahead.
So I went down to I saw the Pre
industry factory for Nico Sueno
from Romo Craft.
What does that mean pre
industry?
So what happens is, you know
when you you acquire tobacco,
yes, you have to go through it
and sort it and some of it isn't
completely.
Fermented the What's that thing
he keeps calling it?
The Bodega.
Yeah, the bodegas.
You saw the bodegas, yes.
Oh, is that a different
location?
It's in a totally different
location.
Oh, I didn't.
I figured it was there.
Yeah, no, it's in a totally
different location, right?
And that's pretty cool because
it helps with checks and
balances and things that are
being regulated.
Is it like on the left side of
the island and the Nicasuenos on
the right side?
The left side of the island.
I'm just saying like, is it like
super far away or is it?
No, it's got to be close.
They're hauling tobacco.
Back up.
It's probably about 5 or 10
minutes away.
Just another part of the city.
Yeah, and but it's on the main
highway and I'm going to tell
you right now, man, I have not
seen a factory that goes through
all the processes of the sorting
and the checking, the
verification that these guys do
right right through.
It is next fucking level.
There is no one there, is there?
I don't give a fuck who you are.
You guys aren't.
There's there isn't a single
one.
It's not an AJ.
No, AJ does.
A Merrifal doesn't do it?
No.
No.
Arturo Fuente doesn't.
No.
What about the other?
One.
It's just them.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
Arcanosa.
It's it's all I'm like no.
They're all flexing everywhere.
They don't do.
Anything.
Does Alex run both of these?
No.
Well, Alex runs the main pre
industry and then he facilitates
some things inside of the
factory, but so he's in.
Charge of the bodegas.
He is.
So he's like a Storkeler.
He's he's the bodega guy, but
Fran handles the factory.
Fran, I don't think I've heard
that name before.
No, she is Arlen's sister.
Oh, OK Oh, gotcha, you said
Fran.
I assumed a man like Francis was
his name or something.
No.
OK, so yeah, she runs the
factory.
Well, Arlen owns the factory, so
that just makes sense.
Right, right.
So if.
You can own the factory, You can
put your sister in charge.
Kind of somebody you can trust.
You know, I don't know.
Well, your situation's a little
different.
He wasn't bringing that up.
No, your brother, we were going
to talk about that.
But yeah, your sibling, maybe
he's a little different.
Than hers?
No, I I was going to say I don't
think that that's the case.
I think that, you know, when it
comes to systems and people
putting people in systems,
that's probably more along
Skip's realm and he handles all
of those things and I don't
think that she was the original
person that.
Ran it Was that the Quite World
guy?
No, there's there's someone
after that.
Oh wow.
But he was the guy when he was
there.
Yeah.
Oh, OK.
All right.
Yeah.
So.
So he created a hole when they
that whole separation happened.
Yeah, well, there's more
organization now than I've ever
seen before.
Well, it's absolutely
incredible.
And it's only getting more and
more efficient.
Sure.
You know and.
Alex and Craft.
More, More Was it more tobacco?
More taste?
Better efficient, More
efficient?
More efficient.
There's just more, there's more
way more structure.
More structure, more tobacco,
more taste, more structure,
guys.
You're going to need a bigger
business card.
That should be a T-shirt.
Business card they we had the we
had the T-shirt problem already.
Yeah, it starts slicing through
names.
And started crouching things.
OK, we're not really at a
fishing.
Anymore.
It was Alice and Martin.
That's it.
That's all right.
So you know, you don't it's it's
funny because you like from a
retailer side, you look at
things and you're like, well,
why haven't we had more of this?
Why hasn't this come out yet or
whatever when we're Aquitaine or
whatever the case may be.
But what you don't understand is
there can be 1 component of that
cigar that isn't obtainable at
this time or or it isn't of good
quality.
So they just don't produce it.
Makes sense so.
They hang on to everything else
and then sometimes when you find
it, you have to wind up buying
three years worth of it, right?
So.
It's it's available.
Get all you can.
Yeah.
So it's easy to have millions of
dollars of tobacco, right?
And still missing that one
piece.
So you can't use all of it.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
Do they ever make there's?
$20 million worth of tobacco
there and they still?
Can't make it a cigar.
I wouldn't say it's to that
level.
Exaggerating a little, yeah.
Do they ever make so they don't
own a farm?
Right.
Correct.
And what you're saying, if
they're missing a part, they
can't make the cigar.
Would they ever make a deal with
somebody and go like, hey, I
need you to grow this tobacco
and we'll buy it all from you?
Or like, do they ever do stuff
like that?
I don't know if that would
happen.
It's possible for something like
that to happen, but normally, if
you're going to acquire
something like that directly
from a farm, normally you're
obtaining the entire crop.
If you're obtaining obtaining
the entire crop, yeah.
Well, I think it's what he was
asking like we need Cameroon
wrappers, so can you grow a crop
of Cameroon we'll buy.
But then you got to buy the
second of the beast.
What do you do with the rest of
it?
You can't just buy a part you.
Can't just.
Right.
You say the entire crop.
You mean the entire plant.
Look when when Phil's fun facts
brought to you by fucking, you
know.
Meat, right?
Right, you can't.
Just buy the You can't.
Just turn around and say, hey,
I'm looking for the filet, you
know, just leave the rest of the
fucking cow there.
That's fine.
I'll just you know that it
doesn't work, so.
You could go there and buy
fillets, I would imagine.
They don't sell right now.
They don't sell just fillets.
They sell by the cow, yeah.
You have to buy the whole.
Cow.
You can buy half a cow, right?
So I'm sure that there's there
are some farms that where.
You can actually your grocery
store where you can buy the
filet.
Or or there are some farms where
you can buy specifically one
particular thing.
You're probably going to pay a
premium for it and you got to
establish that relationship.
So if you're buying the entire
crop, you're buying the entire.
You're buying the whole thing.
You're buying the whole plant?
Yeah.
Oh, I got you.
Cut and sorted.
And then you got to worry about
that if it's sorted properly.
Because sometimes you know Secco
is Viso's.
Secco's labeled as Viso.
So you pay more.
Viso's labeled the heroes you
pay more like.
Well, they slip it in.
So you have to know by looking
at it.
There's all types of shit that's
going on down there.
It's fucking crazy.
It's fucking crazy.
So if you aren't, and you know
that that made it even more
fascinating to me, because when
you really think about things,
it's like, hey, make me a cigar.
Right.
You don't understand what you're
really saying.
So you know, it's I got this
crazy like analogy is like, well
let's say your wife is pregnant
and you have to have AC section,
OK?
And you say, hey, you know, I we
need to have this baby today.
They're like fine drape comes
up, all the shit's going on back
over here, Bam, here's your
baby.
Don't look on the other side of
the character.
Right.
So you know, I think that that's
what really happens with a lot
of these factories.
When you say, hey, I want to
make a cigar, they don't really
tell you.
You don't really get to go in
and and breakdown the internals
and understand the process of
actually making the cigar,
right?
They're just handing you the
fucking baby.
Exactly.
And they're not showing you the
ripped apart, right, Like all
into your wife, All of the
bullshit that it just went down,
right.
So I would never want to work
with a factory that just shows
me the baby I want, you know,
like, and and that's what I
think that people kind of miss
out on.
People don't understand, like
I'm getting into the cigar
industry like, oh, OK, good for
you.
So you're going to go to a
factory?
Right.
Give me a cigar.
OK, here's one.
Here's.
One, here's one, here are three
components.
Here are three different blends
that we have access of this
tobacco, but they're not going
to tell you that and this is the
finest.
Right.
These are the three best we can
make because.
You choose one because we do not
lack capacity to sell I.
Don't, I haven't thought.
They're French.
What they do is, is they hand
you a charcuterie board and then
they fucking say.
Bam.
Gotcha.
Pick the one you want, right?
OK, you pick that one.
Don't give him that one.
It's too expensive.
And then and then when you and
then if you work with somebody
that actually does teach you,
you still got to operate in the
parameters of being having that
factory be successful.
You can't just say, well I
really like this rapper, so go
out and fucking.
Go.
Find it like you know.
Like this rapper, please.
Go.
You go now, it's like, what?
What?
No, I'm not.
I'm not doing that to make 6000
sticks or 10,000 sticks fuck out
of here.
So I did roll one.
I did roll a filler.
You're.
Jumping.
You're jumping ahead so fast.
Hold on.
He was I.
Forgot about that.
I did roll a filler.
He ended.
That's the portion of the story,
Yeah, he said.
OK, that's fine.
He was done.
Yeah, I rolled the filler.
I rolled the interior when Alex
showed me how to do it.
I got some footage from it too,
so I'll work on piercing that
together.
I haven't had an opportunity to
really do that just.
Very busy.
Super busy.
But I will put some put that
together.
That was pretty fascinating.
So there's.
Still a lot to learn about that.
You rolled the filler, so you
didn't put a wrapper on it.
I did not put a wrapper on it.
You just lose time, you know.
No, I.
Just didn't have time.
But I don't understand how you
could just, I mean, because I've
seen, I've seen videos where,
you know, they bunch it and
stuff and then.
Then you put in a press.
Right.
Yeah.
Well, you.
Put a binder on it.
Oh.
So it's together and then you
add a wrapper.
Oh, binder filler.
Oh, OK.
I got you.
I got you.
The binder.
The binder holds it together.
Correct.
Oh, I never.
I just.
I didn't thought right, but I
never thought it was an actual
tobacco leaf that went.
Around look, you're learning so
much.
Sure, it's all it's all that
lane.
You're on your way.
On my way.
If Palmer doesn't know, I really
fucking know.
And John?
I'm on my way, right?
No 2nd and viso is that second
and thirds.
Well, it's different categories
of the plant.
OK. 2nd viso lajero so the
second is the thinnest.
The bottom viso is usually your
binder and then your your LA
heroes.
Your top portion of the plant
sometimes uses filler, sometimes
use wrapper, sometimes you can
use viso as wrapper.
I mean secco as wrapper.
It depends.
It all depends.
It all.
Depends.
Unless you make it viso horny,
then the entire thing is viso.
It's all.
Viso it's all Viso, yeah.
Delicious.
That one he couldn't find.
There was some tobacco that
originally couldn't find in or
whatever it was.
Yeah, because you know, there
are times where where crops will
be bad for an entire season or
if not longer, you know?
Yeah.
Didn't they just have something
happen?
They haven't had rain is what's
crazy is so I saw that.
So Skip was showing me places
where that were just filled up.
We would normally fill up with
water.
It's like this is where buses
are sitting here now.
This is part you know.
Crazy about the water comes in,
like in Dubai.
All of a sudden.
All of a sudden.
It's flooded.
Yeah.
Well, the problem, the thing
about Dubai is they just put
their Rolls Royce in little
boats and just let them float
around, right?
They don't.
Yeah, there's so much money
there.
Or buy a new one.
Yeah, right.
Just there.
I shall buy a new.
One we would like a boat for.
Yes, Rolls Royce.
Could you, could you imagine
that you guys can't go on that
river over there?
Why it's the river of Rolls
Royces.
It's the river.
There's.
Rolls Royce is all on the bottom
of this river.
There's Royce River.
My God.
Terrible.
So much money.
Terrible.
I saw a video in from Venice,
Italy.
There's some restaurant 'cause,
you know, there's water
everywhere there.
There's some restaurants that
are flooded constantly.
So like when you go in, they
give you 2 pair, You give you a
pair of rubber boots.
The staff's all wearing rubber
boots, There's fish swimming
around as you're eating.
Yeah, it looks like a nice
restaurant.
I still think, yeah, deadly
panned down and your ankle deep
in water.
Right.
That's.
Called Mayhem over here.
Swimming by.
Why would you might want to go
to Venice at all?
It just sinks.
I mean, the whole place is
sinking.
We're flooded in two inches of
rain.
Would love to see Venice.
And ankle deep water.
Yeah, there's poop floating
around in the water.
I didn't say that I would eat in
the restaurant where the poop is
floating.
No, no.
Like when you're going in the
little boat, you know through
all you see poop running by.
The gondola.
Yeah, the sewer system is the
river.
I'm going to tell you.
You just complained about
Nicaragua.
I haven't.
Going to tell you, I't going to
tell you.
There is nothing better than the
fucking United States of
America.
Oh, did you have to go to the
bathroom over there of?
Course.
Oh yeah, He was there for five
days.
No, I held it.
Which hole did you use?
There wasn't a hole.
It's where you have to put the
toilet paper that's upsetting to
him.
I don't like that.
Yeah, I don't like.
That oh, they don't flush the
toilet.
Paper in some places.
Well, in at the hotel at Hex you
can.
Oh.
That nice?
Yeah, I would just go.
Ahead you were there a lot?
I did go at Hexa whenever I
could.
Did you have to?
Other than that though,
somewhere.
I mean Skip's house, because
Buster eats it, We found out.
Yeah, yeah, that's a treat.
Buster does eat it.
That's treat did not.
Put a Put a lid on the garbage.
Can, but he doesn't.
Buster doesn't give a fuck.
You could put a fucking lock on
that and he'll he'll open that
shit up.
Oh yeah, Buster is not playing.
Will you be including Buster in
your footage?
Do I have?
He took a.
Picture of Buster.
Then there was a press release
about Buster's new cigar.
Yeah.
He's pretty cool.
He's a cool dog.
He gets mad if you stop petting
him.
Do they?
Do they talk to him in Spanish?
I mean, they have to.
Look, man, no.
No, I have a funny story, that's
why I'm asking.
I'm going to tell you that no
one talks to Buster but Skip.
Skip is Buster's dog.
Period.
There's.
No is Buster's dog or Buster's
skip.
Stuff whatever Buster is it?
Could be the other way around.
Yeah, I mean, you know, I think.
Chewed the $10,000 chair.
So yeah.
It's interesting, it's.
So.
So nobody else in the family
talks to the dog?
Yes.
They talk to him in Spanish.
What's the story?
I.
Don't think Arlen really likes
the dog.
No, I get to that.
I get to.
Arlene.
Like, get rid of this fucking
dog.
Yeah.
Skip loves the dog.
Oh yeah, you can.
Skip loves the dog.
Yeah, that's just the way it
works.
I don't want the dog.
I don't want the dog.
It's my dog.
Yeah, this is my fucking dog.
Well, that's what it's my house.
I don't like these boxers.
I don't want a boxer.
Oh, they're both mine.
Yeah, these are my buddies.
Now you have a family photo of
you with the dogs.
Right, right.
Exactly.
Exactly.
No pictures of your wife and
your child.
Just you and the dog.
Yeah.
I was in China trying to talk to
the dogs at my friend's house I
went to for dinner and they're
all laughing.
I'm like, what?
They go dogs only speak Chinese.
They don't speak English.
Right.
I'm like, well, that makes
sense.
You just assume dogs all speak
English.
They're American dogs.
They're drinking.
We all have them in America.
Well, none of them speak
anything.
Well, yeah, but they don't
understand it either.
I mean, I might as well be
barking at them for.
I guess Chinese tones a little
different than American tongue.
Well.
The words are, you know, I'm
trying to call the dogs to me
and they're they're all just
giggling away and they know
speak English.
Mike, I'm like, oh, that makes
sense.
Yeah, I mean, Bubble speaks
German.
Well, right.
It's a German Shepherd.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Well, my boxers speak English.
They're German too.
Are they?
Boxers.
Originally from Germany?
Really.
Yes.
Interesting, right?
So there's that.
So what else?
Was that the story?
Yeah, I just wanted to know if,
I mean, if he's sitting there
talking to Buster, like come
here Buster, come here Buster.
And he's looking at me and
going, that ain't my name, My
name is Busterino or whatever.
They say it in Spanish.
With an O.
Yeah, everything has an O.
You just put an O on the end.
I tried that Friday night with
Z.
Doesn't work all the time.
No, him and Edgar were just.
I just throw something out.
Hello, O.
How are you?
I speak in Spanish too, just
like you guys.
Sounds more Canadian than
Spanish.
That's true.
I mean, there's more cigars in
inventory than I've ever seen
before, like because they're
expanding in some degrees in
some areas, right?
You know, do you have them?
No, but I.
But there was 1 area that used
to be one.
They had one aging room.
Now they have two, you know.
So what's his name was there for
May Junior?
Rafael Nadal, yeah, Rafael, he
was there.
Yeah, of course.
County.
He's the one he counted drinking
his little coffee.
He has a chair.
He has an office in the back.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's never there.
Was it those nice hotels?
Is it a nice hotel like an
American Standard?
Yeah.
It's the nicest hotel in
Estelle.
Well, OK, but that doesn't.
Say that.
Doesn't say it's a nicest hotel.
I've stayed at the nicest hotel
in some Chinese cities where the
door doesn't shut.
It's not bad, no no.
Did you compare it to a hotel
here?
No.
No.
Oh, OK, Well, yeah, you can
Super 8 better or worse.
Better than Super 8?
Hampton Inn.
Worse than the Hampton Inn.
Days Inn, Days Inn, and whatever
I said first is about.
The old school days.
Inn you got to plug, you got to
use your hotel card to plug it
in to Kiev.
Electricity going?
Yeah, you got to keep it in the
wall on the slide.
Yeah, trying to do.
Oh, it's like putting the corner
in the bed for the vibration.
Cruise ships do that too.
You go to use, you go to hang up
your your stuff in the bathroom
with the hook and the hook just
spins.
It says.
Nope, not go.
Fuck it.
I'm not going home doing that
shit.
Can you can you drink the water
in the hotel?
I wouldn't recommend that.
Is there a sign that says that?
It it doesn't say.
Say to right.
That's not that's not how
Nicaragua works.
What did it look like when it
came out the?
Box you just got to figure this
shit out there.
There's.
I mean, I keep comparing things
to China, but the only country
I've spent, you know, excess
money.
There's some hotels where you
can and there's somewhere no you
don't.
You might be able to at hex
maybe, but I wouldn't.
I'm not taking the risk.
What?
About brushing your teeth.
Would always laugh at me.
I would always just bottle
water.
It makes sense to you well.
You know, I like, I avoided a
lot of ice and he would laugh.
I'm like, fuck you man.
I ain't get he's like, it's
filtered.
It's fine.
I'm like, I don't.
Well, Nicaragua is considered a
third world country.
Yeah.
Is China.
China is not considered.
No, no, no.
No, no.
Like if you're in Shanghai or
something like that, you can do
whatever you want, you know, in
the big cities.
But there's some cities I would
go to where you know you don't.
You keep your mouth shut when
you're showering.
Yeah, it's just.
Me I was just thinking about.
It yeah, 'cause now he's
thinking about how he was
singing in the shower.
You don't eat anything.
Yeah, you don't eat anything
that's uncooked, like a salad
bar or something.
Don't touch it.
So this is this shit.
This is probably really
difficult 'cause you're a a
German.
He's kind of a German guy.
We had some nice dinners too.
I mean, you know, yeah, we ate
well.
Yeah, like in China you avoid
fish.
Yeah, you don't know what it was
swimming in.
I've seen some of the fish
farms.
You.
Know no bueno, no bueno.
They ship all the fish over
here.
No, they don't.
We we grown over here.
Oh yeah, do we?
Fish farms.
There's no Chinese fish.
I don't.
Know it's kind of funny, you
know, because you go down the
the first time you go down, you
normally go with a a factory,
right?
And it's right.
Yeah, real nice.
Yeah.
Fancy compounds and food brought
in every day.
Some guy barbecuing on the spit.
You know, person a pig.
Yeah.
No.
If you do the kind of thing that
you just did.
No, that's.
What we do more, more.
Eat where the factory eats you.
Stay in the factory, yeah.
Yeah, the more involved you get
you, you see all of the
everything, just there's so many
different things that can and
will go wrong.
It's just the mentality of the
people and the culture.
It's crazy, right?
It's crazy.
So it's more it's not really,
it's more of the people.
It's just everything.
It's the environment, you know,
there's there's a lot of,
there's a lot of poverty around
there, you know, and nobody
picks up trash.
Well, they don't get paid for
that.
It's.
Fucking crazy.
It's fucking crazy.
That's what the homeless people
look for.
You think that they or the
homeless people pick up the
trash?
No, no, no.
I'm picking that.
I'm sitting here.
Fuck that, right.
Homeless people doing That's
nearly I.
Don't know my wooden.
Skateboard.
I've made moving, right?
That's crazy.
So they're very interesting.
So the hotel.
So the restaurants you ate in
were nicer hotels, yeah, And
restaurants and things.
Oh yeah, yeah.
OK, skip out.
It's standard.
It's standard.
There, 'cause, like, you get tea
everywhere.
In China, obviously you get tea
and it's the hottest thing to
bring.
So you have to wash your
utensils and your plate and your
bowl and everything in the hot
tea.
When they bring it to you.
Really.
Yeah.
So the first cup they bring you,
it's not for drinking, It's for
cleaning.
So you.
Pour fuck that up.
No, no, no, Nope.
Just after the first trip.
The first trip, they do it for
you.
After that, you're on your own.
So you pour the tea into your
bowl and you slosh around your
bowl.
Then you take your spoon and you
just slosh it around on the hot
tea.
And then you from there you pour
it into your plate and you slosh
it around your plate and then
land your chopsticks in it.
And then you pour the tea into
the little bowl in the middle of
the table.
Wow.
And then they take it back, put
more bags in there and bring it
back out.
Well, they take that tea, they
throw away and they give you
fresh tea.
Allegedly.
Yeah, allegedly.
Why?
Tea does that.
Clean things.
It's.
Super hot.
Well, the water.
Yeah, but it's tea.
But it's super, super hot.
Yeah, it's just yellow water.
I'm trying.
To figure out like what's the
tea for?
It just yellow water.
It just yellow.
Well, y'all drink tea.
That's the drink of the country.
So everybody has tea with
everything, right?
It's not iced tea.
You can't get iced tea, no.
Yeah, you die, you drink the
iced.
Tea.
Yeah.
The ice.
No, no.
If you're one of the restaurants
down the strip in the factory,
no, you're not eating the ice.
No, no, no, no.
You want a dye?
You want a Coke light.
It's called Coke Light, not Diet
Coke.
You wipe the top off and then
you don't.
No glass, No ice.
I'm fine.
I'll drink it hot.
Did you have ice in Nicaragua?
Yeah.
No stomach problems for you at
all?
No, that's good.
It's probably smart to avoid as
much water as possible.
Yeah, it's drink bottled water
and.
Skip drinking from the tap.
Is he going out to the side?
You're scooping up from the same
thing, man.
Well, look at him.
He's drinking it.
No, but that guy can handle
anything.
Well, he's been there long
enough.
He's built up whatever The thing
is.
That's right.
It's crazy.
We had a guy one time almost
die.
A customer came down, he had to
be rushed home and he almost
died.
He ate some type of fish that
had something in it.
Really.
They were giving him the last
rites at the hospital.
Oh my Lord.
Like, almost died.
Wow.
Yeah, he got some kind of amoeba
or something inside of him.
Holy, yeah.
After that, we're like no more
fish, we're nobody.
Eating no more customers, we're
not bringing the fish.
Yeah, don't.
Well, he wasn't with us at the
time.
And thank God, when he left our
visit, he went with somebody
else.
And that's where he almost died.
Like what happened to Paul?
Oh, he's almost dead.
They're praying for.
Him.
They're praying for him,
apparently, at the hospital in
New Jersey.
It's a horrible trip.
I listened to your Palmer plus
one.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
You gave me your notes.
They were very.
I appreciated that.
Yeah, you're it went really
well.
That was really good.
Thank you very much.
It's doing it better than I
thought it would do.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's almost beat the highest
ratings of all the other shows
from the other one.
That's good.
Yeah, you just got to slow it
down a little bit.
Let them talk.
Yeah, I have a problem
interrupting.
I understand that I do it to you
all the time, but I think it's
something funny.
I want to get it out.
Yeah, you got to hold it.
Yeah, but.
He forgets.
I could forget or the moment
might be gone.
It won't be funny anymore.
Yeah, but dude, you know, let
them speak.
I know so.
I've got guest booked up through
June and I started booking July
today.
Wow, look at you.
Had one lady cancel, but that's
OK.
She wasn't gonna be a fit
anyway, right?
But I replaced her with a guy
who's got ghost stories, so
that's fine.
Ghost stories.
Gho stories are amazing.
Yeah, I would look for Ghost
Hunter, but I'll take Ghost
Stars.
UFOs.
You mean demons?
Yeah, those are demons,
apparently.
No, those are demons.
Those are demons.
Why didn't you ask John about
the dinosaurs?
I don't know anything about him,
the dinosaurs.
I'm pretty sure the Bible
doesn't acknowledge dinosaurs.
I.
I doubt it does, no.
No.
So he knows a lot about the
Bible.
Tell me about the dinosaurs,
John.
Well, he's going to come on
again because I had a lot of
questions that he didn't get.
To He's going to have an answer
after he listens to this podcast
'cause he's a fan.
I can't wait to see the comment
about the dinosaurs.
Tell me about the dinosaurs,
John.
What are the dinosaurs?
I want to know where the
dinosaurs are.
Where they came from?
Yeah, and what's what's behind
the dinosaurs?
I need to know 'cause my son
loves dinosaurs.
They're not real.
They're demons.
They're demons, Demon dinosaurs.
Yes.
Does that skip?
Don't you say that one thing
that happened?
It's not him trying to call
Mickey Pegg.
There's an event tonight.
Here.
Yeah, that I'm aware of.
What about this tonight?
Here there's.
Nothing tonight.
There's nothing tonight, oh
Friday, Friday, the Justice
Release.
This Friday, the In store
Justice release.
Thursday's the Beer Tasting.
Beer tasting.
Then, coming in may we have the
Placencia cutting light and the
the Ponce pig roast.
We're keeping busy.
Oh Ponce Pigros.
Ponce Pigros.
That's gonna be good.
You want.
To get into Phil's fun, we'll.
Do Phil.
Fun fact.
Welcome to Cigar Hustlers
podcast feature Phil's Fun Fact.
Hello, people.
All right, tobacco cultivation
is very nitrogen intensive.
A study from the University of
Kentucky in 2020 found the best
application rates were between
150 to 175 lbs of nitrogen per
acre.
Results usually result in around
2000.
Apparently there are some typos
in there from our staff.
There was a reprint but I didn't
have time to.
No problem.
I'll try to, I'll try to.
Try to muddle your way through.
Of tobacco per acre, with about
35% of that being wrapper.
Ironically, 150 to 175 is
roughly the amount of steak and
chicken Brittany has to cook and
pack for Michael each week they.
Were a little worried about
making fun of you.
I said.
No, go right ahead.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Yeah.
Oh, Speaking of which.
Wait, I got to fill the fun
facts.
Come on, one Phil.
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Every who we calling.
Wow, I don't.
Know who we're calling?
Go out.
Hey, you're on the podcast.
Oh.
Hey I just wanted to touch base
really quickly because you know
you had a you got to talk a lot
about me and and Palmer said
something in specific that I I
that you are spoil me.
Oh, you've watched this out?
Oh.
My God, you, you've been
holding.
You've been holding on to the
right.
You said, oh, you spoiled.
He said yes.
And then you didn't get to
complete your sentence.
You said yeah, but he and I
figured I'd give you that
opportunity to finish your
sentence.
Did you thread her home?
Is this a prepared statement
yesterday?
Did you give a piece of this?
He has brought this up to me
multiple times since last week,
just to make sure I don't
forget.
But yes, you do spoil I.
I do spoil you, but you spoil me
as well.
OK, OK.
All right.
Does that.
Make you We all understand,
Michael.
You've created a nice life for
your wife and family.
So and give him a little pat on
the back, please, for me.
I'll hug him with the shows
over, I'll give him a little hug
and.
Thank you.
I don't have to remember.
Do you never forget anything?
You remember everything?
Yeah.
Yeah, I guess, I guess.
OK all.
Right.
All right.
Thank you.
Thank you for providing me with
everything that I have.
I was just lost without you.
You are the best thing that has
ever happened to me.
You saved me 20 years.
Ago.
Wow.
Can't even tell she's reading a
piece of paper.
She's really good.
I've been working on it.
This is a long paragraph.
All right, Brady, take it from
the top.
Say it one more time.
You mispronounced.
Michael does say it like you
love me.
Say it just like that.
Wow.
All right.
Well, I just wanted to go.
Just wanted to get that
clarification out there.
Since it's, it's.
It's it's for the podcast, you
know?
Yeah.
And you know, I I like to
harass.
You so.
For sure.
I mean, everything I said was
100% true, you know?
But I still, of course I still
love you like that doesn't, you
know?
Yes, I get it.
Anything else you want me to
say?
Anything.
What else?
No, this is.
This is Maximus Desimus
Meridius.
And thank you very much.
You're you're you're amazing.
You're in shape.
His hair.
He likes talk.
About his hair I.
Just like I just like.
When you mentioned his hair,
listen.
His hair.
Talk about his hair.
Listen.
His.
Beautiful hair.
Listen, then get.
Me started on that shit.
Alright, okey dokey.
Quickly.
It was.
It was clearly stated.
Yes, it doesn't sound prepared
at all.
Not at all.
Clearly stated. 100% honest in
her idea to say it, I'm sure.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, I'm picking up one of your
children now, All right?
Fuck you, said Boo Boo.
She's there.
One of the kids he picked up now
all.
Right love.
You love you.
Bye.
We'll have you on again next
time he's gone.
So there you go.
I knew he'd listen to that
episode.
Oh, sure he did.
I mean, I made my wife say this,
but in better off if she had
called in to go.
I need to get a few things
straight.
Michael.
Let me talk for a minute and
then went into her little
speech.
You made her say that?
Would never happen.
Could have, You never know.
I'm just stating, stating you
know, you didn't give her
opportunity because there you go
again, cutting people off when.
She.
Was in mid, yes, but he and like
I don't.
Think that's where she was
going, Mike.
I'll show you.
I'll show you the clip.
No, I've seen all the clips.
I can get a plane right now.
No, no.
But I don't know if that's where
she was going.
I was trying to save you.
She was going to slight you with
something.
Oh, she was going to.
You were?
Saving I was saving you, yes.
It didn't seem like quite the
saving.
Sure, it was interesting.
I had more things planned, but I
just.
I just ran.
Yeah.
He stopped.
I ran out of time.
Oh no, With the show, I stopped.
I stopped.
I didn't cross any lines with
Joe's right, but I was going to
interview like each employee.
Oh, but Britney was a better
choice.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Right.
OK, more personal stuff there.
The employees should be going.
He's a great boss.
We all love working here.
Please don't air this.
Please don't air.
Is he gonna hear this?
Please don't air this.
Did I say it right?
I need to do it again.
Are you calling now?
I'm waiting till you get to that
news.
There's some news.
Some news popped.
All right.
Oh.
From the four quarters of the
world, all the cigar industry
news you could possibly need.
The Cigar Hustler podcast report
with Mike too.
Scott Pierce is leaving the PCA
to become CAA President.
Scott Pierce is leaving one
cigar association for another.
As of today, it was announced
he's leaving his role as
Executive director of the
Premium Cigar Association of
America deal to become President
of the Cigar Association of
America.
Yeah, that's a big deal.
So he's leaving the premium
cigar to become the cigar.
What is this?
What is the CAA?
Cigar Association.
Of America.
It's like he doesn't show we've
talked about.
No, no.
It's a different organization.
Are they higher than the PCA?
They do a different thing.
They cater more to the rights
and protecting the rights in the
scar industry.
They work together and the one
of the primary reasons as to why
they work together is because of
Scott Pierce.
Like we joked about this guy, we
broke it.
Broke balls about.
Him.
Oh, he called the show several
times.
Yeah, and it was hilarious when
he called in, right?
But.
It was at one point he was the
only one there.
Yeah, the yeah, the reality.
COVID.
Everybody else got like guy.
Worked his fucking ass off.
So it's going to be interesting
to me.
You know, I have questions.
I'm very curious about all of
this because the reality is that
Scott was an integral piece of
the PCA and I would guess, and I
could be wrong here.
Yes.
But I would guess that the PCA
didn't want to pay him what he
should have been paid so.
If the tile has anything to do
with it, and I looked up the
difference between the titles,
he's going from executive
director to president, right?
There's a difference in the jobs
they do.
Yeah, executive director is like
3 down usually.
Right.
But he was the head guy, right?
Executive director answers more
to a board where the president
doesn't do something.
I don't know.
I have one page of things of
what the difference is, but you
know.
Yeah, you know.
He has agreed to be on the show.
We are working out a a time and
date and we'll do like a one of
our little mini specials.
Oh, nice.
When we can get them set up?
Like True Media?
Yes.
So ask the fucking hard.
Questions like does he have to
move?
Like, hey take did they take the
keys away?
Hey Coupe, why don't you answer
the phone on Monday when we
call?
Right.
Or when you were here in town,
you stayed in Deberry.
You didn't even come by.
Didn't even check what?
Yeah, didn't even.
He was in a house in Deberry at
least one night 'cause he went
to the Carlito party in Tampa.
The 70th birthday party.
Which we have later.
We have started as of this week,
we have started writing some of
our own news stories.
Oh, we are, we are.
We would like to thank we like
to thank Half Wheel for their
stories for the last six years.
But.
We're now getting press
releases.
We're get press releases and we
have a a writing staff that is,
that is helping write some of
the stories.
Oh, Ben is error.
No, no.
I can't.
Don't ask you're.
Official intelligence.
Mike Oh, it's really magic I.
Have some new software.
Scott Pierce is humbled and
honored to take the reins of the
CEA, said Pierce as a press
release.
I am optimistic about the future
for our industry and look
forward to working with the
great companies and people of
CEA to drive greater value for
members and develop new advocacy
strategies to both defend and
catapult the industry to new
heights.
That's fantastic.
Right.
There's a lot of more
information, but we'll get that
when we talk to Mr. Pierce you.
Got the other one.
You want us to go right to that?
We have a quick story.
The Minneapolis City Council
preserves cigar sampling
exemption, but you can only
smoke for 15 minutes at a time
in the shop.
Shut it down. 15 minutes set.
Timer.
For. 15 minutes.
There is a sampling rule,
apparently in Minneapolis, so
you can't smoke in the building,
but for 15 minutes you can try
this cigar.
Then you have to put it out
early.
Put it down.
How many people's tickets can
you use?
You only get one one cigar, 15
minutes per cigar.
I guess you can smoke 7 cigars.
I just don't understand, you
know who sits around on the
table and you know what?
We're gonna we're gonna cap it
at 15 minutes and somebody
doesn't look at the other
person.
Say the fuck did you just say
wait, wait, are you?
What?
Do you fucking mind?
It's a loophole in an old law
that the shops have found so the
customers can smoke and the.
We're sampling sample.
We just started.
We're 30 seconds in.
I mean, give me a fucking break.
How fucking stupid.
Forgot to start the clock.
Some of the shit.
Oh, some of the shit, Some of
the fucking.
It just doesn't make fucking
sense.
Doesn't make it make sense for
me.
No, it does.
It's just ridiculous.
I can make a good buy a $15
cigar after 15 minutes.
You can smoke the cigar, right?
But you have to smoke between
the television and the bathrooms
and.
You have to hold up your left
hand.
Right.
Yeah, it's stand up 1 foot and
you have to have on a purple
hat.
And you have to bark like a dog.
A big dog.
Why you?
Why you're so good.
Right, All Saints of Mccalla,
there it is.
Sales partnership A shift in the
cigar industry All Saints cigars
and McAuliffe cigars have
announced the end of their sales
partnership, marking a
significant shift in the cigar
industry.
The two.
A significant shift.
This is one of the stories that
we wrote.
Please don't critique our
writing staff.
Wonderful Choice Award.
The two companies have been
working together to distribute
Mcauliffe's premium cigar lines
in the United States, but have
now decided to part ways.
The decision to end the
partnership comes as both
companies look to pursue
different strategies to grow
their business.
All Saints Cigars, known for its
boutique approach to cigar
making, is focusing on expanding
its own brand and distribution
channels.
Meanwhile, Macalip Cigars, a
family owned company known for
high quality cigars, is looking
to explore new sales and
distribution opportunities.
The end of the sales partnership
is not expected to impact the
availability of Macalip Cigars
in the United States.
The company has stated that it
remains committed to proving its
customers, with the same
committed to providing also
providing its customers with the
same exceptional cigars they
come to expect.
There's more if you want to go
ahead and try calling.
Call and make a peg.
What's up?
Huge.
Huge.
Will he answer?
Yeah, he knows what we want.
We're just going to be sitting
here crying.
He's not going to answer.
He's in charge.
Your call has been forwarded to
voicemail.
Forwarded so he he ditched us.
Buy one, get one fucking All
Saints, is what that says.
Whoa.
I think it just says forwarded.
No.
Oh no, that means you were sent
to, no.
Your call has been forwarded to
voicemail.
Oh no.
You gonna keep calling till the
answers.
Yes.
One more time.
If he doesn't answer or release
his phone number.
Too bad the show's not live.
We could go Facebook live real
quick.
Yes.
Your call has been forwarded to
voicemail.
This makes me mad.
Get him, Michael.
If he calls me back and I'm not
on the podcast, I'm not
answering.
Oh, I thought that.
Was your call has been.
Pulled lip?
Palmer called.
Does he have your number?
Yes, I've been texting him all
weekend.
Did he respond to you at all via
text?
No.
It normally does, like for your
birthday thing entered right
away.
Do you think maybe Michaela took
his phone?
Oh yeah, that could be.
No, no 'cause when I got his
number he was it was just All
Saints.
He was not mechanical.
They said, hey, we're going to
take your.
Phone We're taking the phone, so
in case somebody calls.
Yeah, this is your phone now,
so.
What happens to all the reps
that they had that they hired
when they're they?
Didn't hire you.
They used the Macaliff reps So
now, like your friend, the
Macaliff Rep just does Macaliff
now not.
Only Macaliff.
Only Macaliff now.
Look, you know, since Mickey
doesn't want to defend himself,
I'll go ahead and defend him for
me.
That's fine.
Oh, OK.
I think that this is kind of
fucked to be honest.
Mickey has as fucking crazy as
Mickey Peg is because Mickey Peg
is a fucking lunatic.
The guy has a lot of research
and data and work when it comes
to Salesforce and and the
ability to incorporate those
things, you know, specifically
routes and promoting and
building brands.
So there was no real value for
Mickey receiving through
Macaliph?
I mean just.
It gave him a Salesforce, yeah.
But all he did was just pretty
much train them how to do their
job better.
And then I sent them fucking
packing.
Now this is me speculating.
I can't.
I can't fucking confirm this.
But the press release is that it
was amicable.
Both companies said, Oh no,
we're done.
I got to be honest, I don't
believe that for a fucking
second.
It's.
Never that way.
And I'm going to tell you why.
You know, we were listening.
We we were driving to Managua or
something and Skip put on the
second best podcast the.
I don't know who's the 2nd.
David Garofalo.
Oh, OK, they.
Do the they do the after party
show?
The after thing that skip
sponsors.
Yeah, and they had the McAuliffe
guy on.
And the McAuliffe guy was
telling a story right about when
he was younger, probably fucking
this whole thing up.
But that's fine about when.
We cared when he.
Was younger, he worked at a
grocery store and he had, he was
talking about this thing called
the a Johnny Brush, right?
You know what Johnny Brush is?
Well, I heard you tell the story
to Greg.
Oh, did you?
But I knew what a Johnny Brush
is.
OK, so a Johnny Brush is was
like a toilet.
Cleaner toilet brush.
They used to be called John's.
Use them for I thought they use
them for bottles, right?
No clean toilets.
No, you didn't clean toilets
when.
They first came out, yeah.
So.
Back when I was a kid.
So he talks about this trick
that he learned.
He's because he had to sell all
of these things very fast,
right?
So what he did was, as customers
were buying their groceries,
whatever, he would ring up one
of these things and put them in
their bag, OK?
And he did this to everybody.
They're probably relatively
cheap back then.
They're like a buck.
Yeah, yeah, so he, you know, so
people call, say, hey, there's
this plastic thing in my bag and
then he plays stupid, he's oh oh
you know what that is and blah
blah blah oh let me run and get
you some some refills and blah
blah blah blah last time I
fucking checked.
That's fucking stealing.
That is.
You fucking force somebody to
buy something and didn't tell
them, right?
Like how is that OK?
I'm sure it's some type of
theft, but I don't think it's
actually stealing.
There's probably different term
for it.
What would be the term other
for?
Sailing or.
Yeah, something like that.
Not larceny or what?
Would you be OK with that?
Well, let's see.
But, well, back then, I guess a
dollar would have been more
money.
But if I got home with something
in my bag I didn't buy, you
know, it's it's not worth my
time to go back to the store for
a.
Dollar.
So you're OK with that?
No, no, I'm not OK with him
doing it.
So you're OK with somebody
taking something out of your
pocket and just fucking saying,
huh?
No, I'm not OK.
With so like but that.
So here's my point.
But I'm saying how he got away
with it.
So this guy was fucking proud of
it.
Sure he was.
He was excited about the fact
that he.
Sure.
He ripped these people off.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm like, that's not OK, right?
This is not.
No, it's not.
It's not OK.
How the fuck like that Wasn't
you're proud of it?
Right.
He's bragging about it.
On his fucking storyboard.
Right.
On a podcast, right?
I mean, you know my friend David
Garofalo.
I will say this, I will, I will
tell you, your close friend.
Yes, I will say this.
I'm one.
He's.
I think that there's a different
category of individuals.
There are there are individuals
that I have seen in the cigar
industry, right?
And just in life in general,
that will will fuck you.
Sure.
And then we'll justify why it
went down, Sure.
And not really admit to fucking
you justify it.
That person is far worse than
this guy because at least this
guy said.
Yeah, I did.
Yeah.
Like, yeah, I fucked these
people.
I got away with it.
But holy shit.
So then you kind of look back
and I see this whole scenario
going down with Mickey and and
and how it shook out.
And I'm thinking, well, that's
easy.
If this guy is the type of guy
that'll just say, well, now I
got the info.
So fucking Deuces, you know,
like, this shit is not OK.
Now how?
How is this OK?
Tell me what, what did what,
what did my friend David
Garofalo and the other people on
the show, were they just
laughing, going, oh, that's
amazing, that's that's a super
idea.
It's a different.
Podcast, brother if somebody
said that here.
But like, are you fucking
kidding me, right?
No, dude.
How?
Scary do anybody stepped up and
went of?
Course not.
Of course not.
Right.
So it is.
It is a crime.
It is a chargeable crime.
Oh, you Google.
I like this.
Yeah, I just don't know what
it's called yet, 'cause there's
no.
There's no term for it.
There's no service down here.
Like you fucking padded the
test.
It's all short selling.
There you go.
I know there's another word for
it.
Holy shit.
Right.
There's all thing like a lost
leader, like a.
Family of attorneys.
Satan Switch.
There's all sorts of things like
you go, you go, this is on sale
and they come in and go, I don't
have that.
You got to buy this, right?
Everybody wants these, but no, I
like.
This one's $20 instead, right
there is.
When you sell something to
somebody without their consent.
There you go, yeah.
Is he in the solar panel
business now?
I mean, what's like, is he doing
door to door shit, like, what's
going on?
I don't know.
This is the Mcaliff owner.
Yes, Mr. Mcaliff.
The old It's an old.
It's got to be an older guy.
Got to be an older dude.
Yeah, and I met his sister at
the PCA or his sister's daughter
at the PCA.
She's like my age.
I don't get that Accidentally
met her too, I.
Don't get that.
Well, she's right by the
bathroom.
Well, yeah, that That's not how
it matter.
I don't even know what the fuck
he's talking.
Well, I don't.
Even know if I want to go there.
So How I Met him, Well, maybe I
can tell you on the page.
Yeah, I'll tell you on the page.
Interesting.
Wow.
Apparently he got some at the
base.
Interesting.
No, it's just not.
I just don't think it's for the
public right now like it needs
to be on the page.
I just.
Couldn't believe that.
He tripped and fell and.
OK, Palmer, move on.
She tripped and fell.
I'm an.
Angry Tex.
Mickey.
Hey Carlito Fuente, star-studded
birthday bash, A magical evening
in Tampa.
Carlito Fuente, legendary cigar
maker and owner of Arturo Fuente
cigar, celebrated his birthday
in style this weekend with a
star-studded party in Tampa.
The event was glamorous affair
with a guest dressed in the
nines and elegant tuxedos and
evening gowns.
The highlight of the evening was
a special performance by none
other than the iconic rocker Kid
Rock, who had the crowds on
their feet with his electrifying
performance.
Kid Rock was.
There, in shorts, he didn't have
a tuxedo, unlike everybody.
Else of course.
He's Kid Rock.
And Carlito, in the video saw
Carlito was yelling at him to
put his beard down or something
as he was introducing him.
Wow.
And Carlito head on an Elvis
Presley sequin jumpsuit with a
Cape at one point in the
evening.
What?
Oh oh, like the magic trick guy
at the PCA, The magician.
The body was there was a.
Magician the PCA.
I didn't see the.
This is the guy that sells a
human door.
Just don't like that.
Oh, oh.
The party was held a luxurious
venue in Tampa, decked out with
dazzling decorations and a
lavish spread of gourmet food
and drinks.
Guests were treated to a night
of music, dancing and
celebration as they toasted to
Carlito's health and his
happiness 'cause the night came
to a close.
Guests left with memories of a
truly unforgettable evening
filled with laughter, music and
magic.
Carlito Fuente's birthday party
was a testament to his status as
a true cigar aficionado and a
beloved figure in the cigar
community.
Here's the many more years of
success and celebration for
Carlito Fuente Cigar Coupe made
a stylish statement at the Fancy
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tuxedo jacket paired with black
pants.
While they look dapper in his
ensemble, many attendees
couldn't help but miss his
trademark tan pants, which have
become synonymous with the
signature style of a cigar coat.
Wow.
It was a white tuxedo jacket,
black pant that that was the
dress code for the men.
So he followed the dress.
Code on.
He pulled it off.
He had.
Yeah, I couldn't see the shoes.
I was hoping maybe someone to
shoot.
No, he did have the black pants.
He looked nice.
All right, let's.
See, Kid Rock did.
Well, I can't believe he told
told Kid Rock to put his beard
down.
He didn't.
Well, he put it behind his back.
Was it a Bud Light?
It was a Bud Light.
Oh yeah, I know it.
He's Kid Rock.
He's.
Kid Rock Black Starline Cigars
introduced 2 nuvotolas for
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Does that sound right?
Dark War.
Dark War Witch.
Yeah, you might have left off
that last word.
He jumped to the other page.
I got pages mixed up.
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chocolate, espresso and leather,
making it a favorite among
aficionados.
Interesting German court rules
Non Cuban companies prohibited
from using Habano and Cubano due
to potential consumer confusion.
Yeah.
You can't use the words.
Can't use the words that the
Germans are getting all
confused.
Yeah, they don't know what's
going on.
They don't know what's going on.
We don't know.
We don't know the size of the
type of the cigar.
When they call it the Cubano and
Haban, we cannot tell where it
comes from.
I tell where it come from, the
fatherland.
Sorry, don't.
Hey, Mike, you got a Shop of the
Week.
Brittany had a Shop of the Week.
Did she?
Yep, she did.
And who did she use?
I thought you listened to the.
Shop I did, I can't remember.
This smoke on the water.
Smoke on the water?
Yeah, that was a good one.
That was a good one.
Are there any cigar shops in
Estelle?
I mean there.
Are did you go to one?
No.
No.
So at that restaurant you were
at, apparently you could smoke
there.
Yeah, that's.
That's amazing.
Well, there's a lot of cigars
down there, I guess.
Yeah, and.
What's really kind of crazy
though, is, you know, the
poverty, the the line from, you
know, being in you.
Said poverty.
And and being you know,
somewhat, I guess relatively
affluent, right or I mean you
could just?
Say that was nice looking.
The photo let me look yeah,
other than the behind, the bar
would look like all empty
bottles.
No, they were all Florida
Connor.
Yeah, a lot of Florida Con,
yeah.
Well, they make that there.
So, you know, so like what
happens is you're one of two
tables that are there.
Oh, so when you're there.
One of two.
Yeah normally your your server
is all about like hey like this
is.
It this is it, it's where I'm
making my.
Money fucking.
I got to deliver, right?
And we had one server that was
great, and then we had one
server just didn't give a fuck.
Oh.
They were on break.
Same restaurant, yeah.
So these two different nights,
like, every one night had great
service.
But another night and the guy
was like, fingers in your food,
he's like, fuck, he comes out
licking your steak, oh.
My God.
Fuck you guys.
Oh, guy look like, all right.
Thanks so much dude, you know?
Did you have steak both nights?
Oh, you got a hamburger?
Yeah, a hamburger.
Did a show.
Had a hamburger one night and I
had.
I loved it.
I think I had steak the other
night.
Still didn't listen.
To Trosco.
Oh yeah.
You know, my dad always said
you're not poor if you don't
know it, If you've always grown
up with a dirt floor, that's all
you know.
So you don't know your.
Feels like sit in first class
right?
Yeah, If you never sit in first
class, you know how big it is.
It doesn't.
Suck until you sit first.
Class So you put up there one
time, You're like son of a
bitch, How do I get the ice
cream cart to come by?
Right.
I haven't seen an ice cream
cart.
Oh.
Well, you an 18 hour flight.
They bring out food a lot.
Do they business class?
Sometimes every little keep
them.
Keep them busy.
Yeah.
Would you like a juggling that
night?
Fuck yeah, but I would.
I got 18 more hours on this.
Damn Plank.
Season, baby.
Let's.
Go so shop of the week.
I didn't know if you want to
pick one in SLE you went.
To No, no.
Let's go brass pipe.
Oh, brass pipe.
Fort Pierce, FL, I got it.
Yeah, Brass pipe in Fort Pierce,
FL, where Mark Palmer, my
cousin, works.
There's one more.
Listener of the week.
I have a listener of the week.
Oh, wow.
OK.
Have a listener like.
Save yours for next week,
obviously.
Next week, 'cause he's just this
man is very upset.
He's never been mentioned,
listener.
Of the OK, well, let's go.
I'm a little confused on one of
the two people 'cause it could
have Oh my God.
You just had it in your.
Head you just said no.
No, I know.
But never thinking.
Whoa, wait, baby, the other guy
said it.
So.
Say both of them.
John Richards and John Mctavage.
I know it's a John, so I I don't
know which one it was.
John Richards Never been a
listener of the week?
Nope.
No way.
Yeah, it's what he said.
Or John.
Or maybe John Mctavage.
Said.
So you're both listener of the
week.
Congratulations, they share.
Your listeners.
To the Johns, to the Johns.
They're both good Johns.
They're both good Johns.
Yes, yes.
John Mctavage is a guest this
week on The Palmer Show.
Plus One.
Oh, really?
Talking about changing careers
in midlife?
Changing careers.
Interesting.
He is currently without a job.
Yeah, I know.
Oh, I forgot to always.
Just riding the government funds
is what he's doing.
Well, they have a lot of
government funds there.
Do they?
I saw video last night.
The groceries are very
expensive.
I'm sure.
Like a 12 pack of of soda was
like $17.00. 12 pack of soda.
Here's like 10.
That's $7.00 more. 10's still
expensive.
We cut that back and said no,
you're not your nation.
Yeah.
Well, we.
Maybe that's why Canadians are
so fit.
I've never really seen a fat
Canadian, have you?
Yeah, maybe eating a lot of
moose, yeah.
So it does work over taxing
like.
You get sick, you just go to the
doctor.
I.
Don't think it works that way.
It's not that efficient social
socialized medicine.
I don't think it works that way.
I'm.
Sure it does.
Why not?
OK, yeah.
Go wait line.
So, like, going to the VA, Yeah.
Just go right in.
Just go right in.
No, you got to make an.
Appointment.
They take good carry.
A little bit the good part.
All right.
You got anything else?
No, that's it.
How?
About you over there, Phil, you
got anything?
No.
I look forward to the Patreon.
I just smoked with the Mirror
Fell.
Those just came in.
Those are fantastic.
Sure there I don't know how to
replace respond.
I have not had one.
Bronze back, Bronze back just
came in.
I have.
Had two of those.
The website's finally up and
running after the nightmare of a
week that we've had with the
server being.
Done 2 weeks.
It was almost two weeks.
That's terrible.
Yeah, we're still ironing out
some kinks, but at least we're
operational super stressful.
No, there's no nothing wrong
with the website, but the emails
haven't been sorted out.
Yet.
Oh oh, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
Yeah.
Was that because of the move
too?
Yeah, brutal, brutal stuff.
You don't realize how much of
that is connected to different
things.
Or like we couldn't get the pen
to change passwords on certain
websites, couldn't get the pen
to log in to charge somebody on
the wholesale stuff.
I mean, it was just so much.
I had AI couldn't access my
emails and I started.
I went to a support group
support chat or whatever and I
said hey, I can't access my
emails and they're like, OK,
we're going to send you a
verification code via e-mail and
I wrote back.
Are you not paying attention?
I.
Can't get into my e-mail.
And he's like, oh I'm so sorry.
I'm like no problem, Zoom.
Fast forward me to feedback,
will ya?
Obviously.
There's going to be a problem
here with the help portion of
this help center, yeah.
No shit.
It didn't go, dude, do you have
one?
Maybe with someone else?
Do you have an AOL that we could
get access to?
Maybe we could send it there?
Here.
Right.
No, that's it.
All right, it's been Episode
331, Cigar Hustler Podcast,
Mikey's Back.
Yeah, Mikey's back and I'm
pissed off at Maggie Pegg for
not answering his God damn
phone.
Release his phone number.
Do for one.
I'll change cigars.
I'm just cigar.
I do get one free upstairs right
now.
Yeah.
And it's today if.
You buy two boxes, you get his
phone number.
Yeah, they.
Sure, it doesn't matter.
He doesn't answer.
Yeah, what a week.
He's on a sabbatical. 785222
He's crying right now.
I think he's going to sell the
cigars for us.
Huge.
All right, we got to go.
Bye bye.
Huge.
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Show Notes
On this episode of the Cigar Hustlers Podcast, Mikey takes us on a journey through his recent trip to the Nica Sueno Cigar Factory in Nicaragua, giving us an inside look at the production process.
In industry news, Scott Pearce's departure from PCA to become CAA President shakes up the cigar world, while the Minneapolis City Council's decision to preserve cigar sampling exemptions but limit them to 15 minutes sparks debate.
The episode also dives into the glitz and glamour of Carlito Fuente's Star-Studded Birthday Bash in Tampa, offering a peek into the magical evening.
In a notable industry shift, All Saints and Micallef end their sales partnership, signaling changes in the cigar landscape. Additionally, Black Star Line Cigars introduces two new vitolas for Lalibela and Dark War Witch, expanding their unique offerings.
Finally, a German court ruling prohibits non-Cuban companies from using "Habano" and "Cubano" due to potential consumer confusion, highlighting global regulatory challenges in the cigar industry.
Tune in for these updates and more, only on the Cigar Hustlers Podcast!