Cigar Hustlers Podcast Episode 351 Vault Conference 2024 Exposed
Episode Summary
Episode 351 of A Cigar Hustler's Podcast is a hosts-only sit-down with Mike "The King" Szczefankewicz and Mike "BDP" Palmer, National Sales Manager for Fosforo/Post-X Cigars, recorded at Mike & Mike Production Studios in Deltona, Florida with engineer Phil. The first half is a debrief on Palmer's trip to Patrick Bet-David's Vault Conference 2024 — what the multi-day business conference is actually like (no motivational chanting), how the tiered ticket levels affect seating and networking access, the value of the networking over the content itself, and the clarity it gave him on gaps in running their own businesses. They also touch on Andy Elliott's sales-training email funnels and "free book, $14 shipping" offers, The Rock's on-stage interview at the event, and next year's conference moving to Tampa. Palmer also recaps a week of shop visits on the road — some worth a follow-up, some not — plus a long, funny tangent about taking his sons to a Buccaneers–Commanders game and a confrontation with a fan who asked his 11-year-old to sit down.
In This Episode
- 01Patreon and Behind the PaywallThe hosts explain what lives on the Patreon feed, including the extended uncensored industry talk and a review of CAO Arcana Thunder Smoke.
- 02Vault Conference 2024 RecapPalmer breaks down Patrick Bet-David's Vault Conference — the marathon keynotes, ticket tiers and seating, networking value, and business lessons he took home.
- 03Andy Elliott, Free Books and Sales FunnelsA tangent on sales trainer Andy Elliott's relentless email marketing and the 'free book, pay $14 shipping' playbook.
- 04Road Trip and Shop VisitsPalmer reports on a week of retail calls — two strong meetings, a few middling ones, and some shops that simply aren't a fit.
- 05Bucs vs. Commanders Game StoryA long story about standing up at the stadium, a polite-but-pointed Commanders fan, and parenting in the stands.
- 06Phil's Fun FactsPhil delivers his weekly trivia segment, this time on the first Pride March and the Christopher Street Liberation Day March.
- 07Industry News: JRE Promotes Trey ShipleyJRE Tobacco Co. promotes Trey Shipley from territory manager to national sales manager, prompting a riff on his prior stint at Crema Cigars and the role of titles.
- 08Factory Fires and STG's Bond IssueFires at Universal's Dominican leaf-sorting facility and an Aganorsa Leaf pre-industry, Universal's CEO succession from George Freeman to Preston Wigner, and Scandinavian Tobacco Group's $332.5 million bond offering.
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Transcript
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Yeah, hit the button. Welcome to the Cigar Hustlers Podcast, episode 351. Recorded live at Mike and Mike Production Studios in Deltona, Florida, this is the Cigar Hustlers Podcast, the show where two guys share their passion for cigars, business, and life. Join Mike, the King, Stepankiewicz, and his co-host, Mike BDP Palmer, National Sales Manager for Post-X Cigars, as they talk about the latest cigars news, reviews, and interview some of the most influential people in the cigar industry.
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What are we reviewing for the Patreon? A Cigar Hustler Podcast. We are smoking Arcana? C-A-O Arcana.
Thundersmoke. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Dun dun dun dun dun. Nineteen grams?
I don't know. It's handmade in Esteli Nicaragua. No, no, I had to take that off. Is it in Nicaragua?
I don't know. We haven't looked this guy up yet. It's a surprise. So that'll be on the Patreon.
That'll be on the Patreon. Along with 75 uninterrupted minutes of just trash talking about somebody. I don't know. I mean, come on.
75 uninterrupted. Uninterrupted trash talking minutes. That's not how it works. Okay.
We're talking about a lot of things. A lot of things. 55 minutes. It's not just trash talking.
And cigar reviews. We go in depth on a lot of things. We talk about, but, you know, we name more names on the Patreon. Yes, we name names.
Yes. We've added two people to the Patreon this week. Yes. Excellent.
Yes, it's growing entirely. See, the more trash we talk, the more people want to find out who it is. Listen, you know, it's not that we do. Look, we don't Patreon to.
This is like an arm thing. To kind of hide the information. No, we're not hiding. You just have to.
Well, we're very open and honest about our opinions when it comes to people specifically in this industry. Yes. However, if you want to hear the actual names... Yes.
we need your support to keep this one, this... Keep us out of jail. podcast alive. Yeah, someone's got to pay for bail money.
We've got to pay the lawyers for the cease and desist letters we get. Yeah. So, you know, we appreciate your support. Yes.
Each and every one of the seven. So let's keep it... There's more than seven. Okay, nine.
Can't be like a Tyree Kill. Can't get out of jail free. What are you talking about? That guy did not.
I saw that some Miami player got arrested on the way to the game. The best Miami player. Oh, is he the best one? He didn't get arrested.
He got detained. He saw him in handcuffs. Yeah, and the police officer, they obviously looked at the body camera footage and he was instantly on administrative leave. Oh, yeah.
The officer? Yeah, they pulled him. Yeah. They're like, dude, you're at the stadium?
He was literally like within a half a mile from the stadium. Yeah. Did they not know who he is? It'll be interesting to see how.
Hey, you're Tyreek Hill. Let's pull over this Lambo. Right by the stadium. It was a Ferrari.
It can't be a player. It was a Ferrari. It's not a player. Black guy in a Lambo right by the stadium.
Yeah, big old chain. There's a big difference between a Lambo and a Ferrari. I'm sorry. I know.
We saw the dealership in Westbound Beach last week. They were right next to each other. Oh, yeah? Did we?
I didn't see them. Yeah, right there on Okeechobee Boulevard. Oh. Remember when I said this used to be the slums?
And you're going, well, not anymore. Yeah. The Bentley, Lambo, Ferrari. Yeah.
All right. So you did a little bit of traveling. We. We did.
Well, I mean, I tagged along a little bit. Oh, yeah. Well, actually, I tagged along. You tagged along.
Yes. I'm going to ask more questions next time. Yeah? Yeah.
You're going to ask more questions about what? You, when you invite me along on these little things with you. Why? I think what was wrong with it.
What time does it get out? I don't fact check these things. Okay, so I went to the Vault Conference with the Patrick Bet David. Yeah, did you look at that at all?
You screwed up the day it started, and what time it ended. Well, it technically started the day that I got there. It's just that it wasn't... It wasn't bright and early in the morning.
It just wasn't actual speaking or anything. I will tell you this. I mean, there was a lot that I took away from it. It's not like your motivational speaker thing.
No chanting. No, there's no chanting. It's funny because I know that you like to pick jokes about it and stuff, but to be perfectly honest, no, there was no chanting. Oh, chanting, I mean like, okay, I know what you're talking about.
" Don't say no, say yes. Don't say no. It's not that type of conference. Oh.
I'm glad I didn't go. Here's what I can tell you. Is there chanting? I would like the chanting, please?
If I could tell you anything, if I took anything away from it. Yes. So it would be clarity about perspective and where I need to propel all of our businesses. Okay.
So it was really kind of fascinating, man. You know, you sat and you listen and, and I mean, the guy fucking speaks forever. I mean, he's up there, he's- Oh yeah, that's the day, was it day two? Yeah.
Yeah, day two, he's probably a long time, long time, but 10:30 at night. He's going, man. He's like, he's like the Paul McCartney of fucking, uh, speakers. He kept doing, what, encores.
He just kept going. He'd start to walk off, and then come back out. No, there was a lot of detail. And he broke down a lot of different avenues and aspects of business.
And, you know, what I have learned about running businesses is that there are gaps. Sure. And things that you're doing wrong that you may not even realize that you're doing them wrong. Okay, makes sense.
Right? So, this conference is kind of like a broad conversation about all of these things that you need to figure out how to do And I'm thinking, oh yeah, yeah, no, I need to do that. Oh yeah, I'm not doing that. I gotta do that.
That's a great idea. I need to do that. Yeah. So, that and the fact that Patrick by David wants to have more kids than Genghis Kong.
Is that the guy that I'm following now? No, that's Andy Elliot. Oh, okay, yeah. He emailed a lot of emails.
That guy's intense. Yeah, apparently. That guy's intense. I like that guy too.
I've listed him as junk emails now. Like, I'm not buying a book! Stop already! " They wanted $14 for shipping!
Yeah? Here's how you get my free book. Give me your name, address, and phone number. Well, how are you gonna get it?
Well, you have it now. Yeah, but it's gotta be shipped to you. You want them to cover the shipping too? Yes, then it's not free anymore.
It's not called $14. The book is free. It doesn't even cost that much to send cigars. Okay, so maybe the shipping's inflated.
Yeah, the book is 14 bucks, it's got free shipping. Right, exactly, why'd you say that? It's a paper bag book, you get a free book, you just need to get it. A lot of places do that, like, oh, get the free knife, but send us $75 in shipping.
It's not free anymore. And your social security. And your social security. I'll tell you what, he brought all of his employees.
Who did? The guy I'm following, did he? All? How many?
How many is all? A lot. I want to say close to 100. I met 100.
Oh, wow. That's a lot. And I met a couple of them. They're really good guys.
Yeah? They're all out of Arizona. Oh. Why did he bring all his employees?
To help them level up. To educate them. Wait. Oh.
Oh, he was attending the seminar. Yeah. Not part of the seminar. Yeah.
Oh, I thought he was part of. No. Oh. What level was he in?
The CEO. Down in the little special center. Yeah, you see. Well, I'm sure he was.
All his people, too? No, no. They're behind you. They're behind you back there.
With the stowage. Right. Way in the back. With the binoculars.
Well, where's the line here? I mean, they're gonna get the information. Right. Is there a microphone?
Well, when we talked about it, and you told me about the different levels and what you pay, I was like, so, what's the difference? The networking makes a difference. Oh, you network with the people that pay the more you sit with. Yeah.
So you didn't have to sit with the stowage, as you called it. Yeah. But you didn't get to mingle with the fences. I was one level above heathen.
I was... Got you. There's heathen. Commoner.
Commoner. You were serf. Yeah. And then there's landowner.
Yeah. And then royalty. Correct. Tax collectors.
Tax collectors. It was cool, man. It was really cool. I enjoyed it.
Good. You know, it's all that counts. I learned a lot. Yeah.
I highly recommend it. I really do. I'm going to make you come. As long as you pay.
Wait, wait, did you timestamp that? Don't you dare. You're gonna give him ammo. I'm gonna put that on my phone.
I tell you, the person that I really want to bring the most... Yeah? is my wife. Oh, really?
Yeah. Oh, yeah. There's not a package deal for, like, more than one person? No.
You think they should be, like, a company... You know what? There is a package deal. I'm sorry.
Oh, wow. Yeah. What is it? It's like, there's a general-level package deal.
I'll sit in the back. I don't care. I can hear that it's the same thing to me. Yeah, it's a microphone.
I mean, you said there's a giant video screen. Yeah. The guy's got a microphone so you can hear him. Yeah.
I'll send it back with the- I'll send it back with the homeless people. I don't care. I'm not a homeless. Close your eyes, it'd be like an audio book.
Right, exactly. 99. Oh, perfect. That's a different guy.
A totally different guy. 99. That guy's all sales. That guy's sale on it.
Right, right, right. Whereas Patrick's more business everything. Ah, gotcha. Does your wife want to go?
Did you tell her about it? all about it? Was she like all excited? No.
It doesn't seem like something she wants to do. She's not. I mean, she's more introverted. Right.
You know? Sure. But I think that she would get a lot from it. So.
She's in the back with me. I'm gunning for her to come with me. She's in the back with me. It's okay.
I'm pushing for her to come with me next year. So what's the package deal? I don't know. I mean, I know what you paid and I know what the big guys paid.
So is it like does it, is it feasible? Like if you bring four or five to not buy individual things? Yeah, you could do that. Oh, you're asking if it's a better deal.
Yeah, if the better deal with peoples. Yeah. I mean, could you spend the same amount of money that you spent, but bring people, but you sit back maybe a row or two or something? Yeah, maybe.
That's what I was looking at. Oh, then we can't share a room, though. No. It's going to be in Tampa next year, anyways.
That's right, that's true. Oh, right before the Bucs game. There you go. Oh, by the way, you were on TV, I saw.
I was? Oh, yeah, Brittany did that. Yeah. I did go to the Bucs game.
Yes. You were on TV. Yeah. We had a great time.
Yeah? They crushed. Who'd you take this time? I took Levi.
Okay. And I took Derek. Because the Baldwins were on a cruise, so they didn't go. Oh, they were on a cruise?
I saw Christy taking a picture of the big screen TV on a boat going, this is the way he should have game day or something like that. Makes sense. Maybe she's on a cruise. Maybe he didn't get to go.
I don't know. There were no photos of him. It could have been a girls weekend. Oh, maybe.
I don't know. So, you saw some stores? Yes. Yeah, how'd that go?
Yes. Some good, some bad. Some good, some bad. Yeah, yeah, some not worth another meeting or another trip in.
Right. Just was not going to be a fit at all. Right. That's a thing.
But there were some that actually went well, you know. Okay. Two that went really well, one that went medium well, and then, you know. Nice.
Three, three went medium well. Yeah? Yeah. Good for you.
Yeah. Look at you, just making the rounds. Sure. Just crushing it.
No. National Sales Manager. Right. It's just, it's very busy, very busy, very busy.
You are busy. You're ramping up. Very busy, very busy. You got a lot going on.
There is a lot going on. Hey, we got a, you know, we have a clear vision as to where we're taking this business, right? Uh, I don't know if it's clear. It's clear to me.
It's clear to me. I hate to see it. Well, I mean, yesterday you just randomly texted me how great we are. Which was very nice, but I just, I was like, well, this is nice, he must be doing something.
I randomly texted you how great we are? We were talking about something else, but you randomly threw in about how we're going to dominate the industry or something as a separate, not applying to whatever we're talking about. Why would you throw that out here? Now it's out.
Well, everybody should know. Yeah, well, we are going to dominate the industry. Complete domination. I actually did say that on Bears.
Oh, did you? Yeah. Were you on Bear's show again? No.
Oh, when you were there before. Yeah. Remember, he only listened to the first five minutes. Yeah, I still don't think the John Kearney show is going up yet, I really want to watch it.
Yeah, he's a little slow on that. Apparently, two weeks now. He just did another show. Omar was on.
Yeah, so I was going to say, Omar was on yesterday. They were talking about rockets and things. Nice. Did Kearney do the Snack Shack this past Sunday?
Snack Shack? I don't know. I saw him getting on a plane either this morning or yesterday, so maybe not. I did not see the Snack Shack.
I didn't go. I went that one time. Oh. Hmm.
He's got a lot of logos. Yeah. Yeah, he put up a thing with all his logos on it, and I don't, I've only heard of two of them. Well, three count in Snack Shack.
Giants. Uh, there's a Giants, there's another one that's the same color as a Giants, I couldn't really tell you what that was. Right. Uh, Bentley's in the middle, Snack Shack's on the bottom, so.
Yeah, well, Purveyors was on there. That's the one, what's Purveyors? What is that one? Golden Purveyors.
Yeah, what is that? Andalusian Bull, Golden Bull. Oh, is he still part of that? I guess.
Oh. Yeah, that was like, I think the first start of his AI. Oh. Because that's not directly affiliated with LFD, I guess.
Oh, it's not? I thought it was. I have no idea. No, that's a project that he's worked on outside of it.
Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. I don't know where he said it to, he didn't say. Hmm.
Mm-hmm. But he was getting on a plane. So yeah, I heard The Rock speak too. I asked you if you saw him, you said no.
I said yes. No, you said no. I said yes. And you didn't.
On Saturday, I had to leave. Rush the stage. Where Friday I had to leave to go coach the boys football. Yeah, you weren't there Friday.
But he was, he wound up being there on Saturday. So I drove back for Saturday. Yes, you drove back for Saturday. All by myself.
I was not going again, Michael, just for the car ride. m. Did you really? Yep.
Oh, I'm so glad I didn't go. And then Sunday I drove to the Bucks game. I've been in my car. Yeah.
Yeah, it's a fun car to drive. It is a fun car to drive. For a couple hours. Not all day like that.
Sorry, I have to go through the message where you ask me if we talk shit about a certain person. Stop it. That happens every week. Stop it.
I'm not saying who. Oh my God. So The Rock was there, so he spoke about the same stuff the other gentleman was speaking about? No, they just did, he did an interview with him.
Oh, okay. Yeah. Nice. It's good.
No rushing the stage. No. It's not my time yet to work with The Rock, but it'll happen. It will.
It'll happen. It'll happen. Hey, you okay over there? Don't worry about it.
Yeah, let's move on, dude. You're wearing a red light? Put the fucking phone down. Stop.
You're making me angry now. Put the phone... I'm putting the timer back on. Put...
Passionate. The phone... Passionate. Passionate.
I'm making you passionate. How's the lawn, motherfucker? Because of the rain, it's hard to get done in one day. It's a two-day process.
Yeah, put up a reel. I like it better that way. I see why it takes you so long now. I saw you picking up all the grass clippings.
Not all the grass, but I clean out the underneath of it periodically because the grass was wet. Because with a battery-powered lawnmower, you lose the torque. So after a while, it starts making a noise. I know when it's getting full.
It gets caked up. It's all caked up in there. So yeah, every once in a while, I have to scrape the grass out to make the batteries last longer. It'll still cut, just the battery wears out faster.
Right. No but Saturday we went and spent the afternoon with mom So I didn't have the whole day To do the lawn Gotcha So I split it up It's a two day process for you now Yeah I kind of like it that way Feels the weekend more Okay I feel like you need to be a little more productive Why? I don't know On the weekend? When we drive around and go places and chant Yes And get on TV Yeah can you do that?
Nah I don't want to do that Come on Not my thing Nah not yet Get on TV but why not come back I don't know, man, you're breaking my balls about things, and now we got an Andy Elliott book on your way. Uh-oh. Well, I borrowed it from you. Yeah.
Well, because you asked me, if you hadn't brought him up, I would never even have followed him. Uh-huh. And I told you, I told him some of the stuff he said you're supposed to do with your wife, and she's not into it. She's not having it.
She's not having it. Let's see, you gotta, you're failing on the sales pitch, you gotta work on that. Okay. The sales pitch.
That's it. That's it. Uh, sure. So I had a very busy week.
End. Yes. Yes. Get away from the microphone!
I mean, for fuck's sake. Always. I know, Jack. I don't know what to tell you.
I don't know what to tell you. I'm sorry, Jack. That's just the way it goes. We can't help but do anything about it.
Somebody wanted to be a guest, and I don't remember who it was. Not the one we talked about with you. There was somebody else. It didn't happen today.
No, no, I know it didn't. But there was somebody else, and I can't remember who it was. That's okay. Well, we can just kind of roll in.
I feel like there was more I wanted to talk about, but. Oh, you know what happened? What? Ah.
Ah. Ah. Ah. Ah.
So we're walking into the stadium of Tampa Bay. Yes, with no sleeves. With no sleeves. Right.
Yeah. Very humid. It's hot out, yeah. Yeah.
Very hot, very humid. Good thing you had the hood, though. I got nice tan lines. Good thing you had the hood on.
And I say to Jack, I say, okay, let's review. If anybody fucking tells you that you have to sit down. You say, look at my daddy. I will handle it.
You do not comply to somebody who is not an authoritative figure to you. Okay. I got it. So, Levi, the same thing?
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Levi, this applies to you, too.
Yeah, I go, okay, well, I actually say, alright, boys, let's review. Derek, as well as you, Derek. Was there another adult? Yeah.
Oh, did we, I know I asked, but I forget what you said. Uh, yes, yeah, Derek. Oh, and who is Derek? Michael's dad.
Long story, but he went instead of Michael. I don't know. Do you know Derek Ballhead? Yeah, you know Derek.
Skinny. Oh. Yeah. So, your son, Levi, and this other guy who didn't have a son there?
Correct. Okay, just seemed a little weird, but okay. A little strange. Yeah, a little strange.
I'm not gonna lie, it was a little strange. He was filling the tickets. Oh, I understand, you're filling the seats, right, I got it. It was a little strange.
Michael was the original option, and somehow he flexed out, and Derek came in. Oh, okay. Yeah. So, he loves the stories that you put up, by the way.
Which stories? The reals? The Step on Cabbage ones? Oh, does he?
'Cause I didn't do one last week. Yeah, he keeps me up to date. Oh, 'cause I figured nobody's commenting. The other versions of the story, people have commented in things.
I got feedback that people liked it. I hadn't heard anything once from the secret agent one, so I sort of let it go last week. Gotta keep it going. Oh, apparently so.
Yeah. This can't be Game of Thrones all over again, man. We gotta know how it ends, okay? Well, it could end suddenly.
I could do a couple of bad episodes, and then, oh, everybody's dead. And they're all dead. And since you're not reading, they're all dead. If you're not reading, they're all gone.
So, you know, I say, hey, okay, let's review. If somebody says this, da-da-da, you're going to handle this. This is how we're going to go. Daddy, punch him in the nose.
And then I say, okay, where do you want to sit? Do you know, do you guys want to be the left of us? Do you want to be the right of us? And Jack said, well, it depends on who's next to me.
And I said, okay, so... Can they sit in the middle? No. Adult on either end?
No, what happens is he likes to generally stay to the left because the bead people and the t-shirts, they all come out of that corner. Ah, I gotcha, okay. So he likes to kind of do that. Gotcha.
So we sit down, and we're two minutes into the game. Right. " He's very polite. " Because he's talking to Jax.
" He's going to stay in the whole game. I highly recommend that when something's going on or whatever, you stand up and you get excited too. Partake in this in the sport right and he's like uh he said something to me that is like well you know it doesn't seem right I go absolutely is right we are in a sporting event where you're gonna stand he's gonna stand probably the whole time he goes well you know I guess you're not raising them right or something like oh geez you're in a fight no no so uh well I guess not gonna fight when you hit him he falls down knockout I mean he was a bigger guy too. I mean, he was in shape.
It would have been interesting. Oh, he could have took it, huh? He's not going to take me. Derek, you should definitely have taken video.
It would have been interesting. But, here's what I'm going to tell you. Jacks have a cell phone still? Why would I escalate it further at that point?
I don't know. Right, self-defense, that's what we're looking for. There's no purpose. What's the purpose of escalating it at that point?
Yeah, there's no purpose. I don't know, because you're passionate. Here's the goal. The goal is, he's going to do it, he's going to stand up.
Right. And there's nothing you can do about that, right? So, sorry, he's going to stand up. You could say whatever the fuck you want to say.
What if he would have got an usher? Do they have those there? " Well, look, I can't see this kid standing up. I asked nicely, and he won't sit down.
Hey, do you mind sitting down? Yeah, he's not going to sit down. Okay, no, he's not going to sit down. Meanwhile, you got people on the field coming up to you going, "Get up!
" They want you up, yelling and screaming and all these other things, right? Oh, gotcha. So, you know, I'm thinking, and I'm like, okay, well, you know, objective, Matt. I've already explained myself to the gentleman?
Yep. Jax. Ball's in his cart? Jax already knows.
You sit like this the whole time, looking over your shoulder? No. Jax continues to stand. No, he doesn't do that.
I'm not sweating it. Touch me, you die. That's how it works. I'm not sweating it.
I'm like, you know, did you take a giant blow-up ball to the back of the head or something? No. No blow-up ball. No blow-up ball.
Oh, sorry, buddy. You're sitting down, it went over your head. But, okay, so here's what I'm telling you, here's what's remarkable to me, is like, that guy made the comment of, you know, well you're not raising him right, and I'm thinking to myself, I, you know what, no, you're wrong, I'm actually am raising him right, because who the fuck are you to talk to an 11 year old, that you have no idea who he is, and you're gonna tell him what to do? Wait, you said this?
No. No, he's thinking this in his head. Oh, okay, it was, it was Ian, it was Ian at you a little bit. like well i just i like to review i i like to you know analyze and see what people say to me i respect what everybody has to say to me right sure so i'm like okay no that's not true i'm raising him correct i'm raising him correct you no idea who you are you are in a commander suit there's commander shirt obviously he picked wrong life choices you were gonna be here commander was the other team you yeah you were gonna be like a space man i don't know these things he's buzz He's Lightyear.
Right. He's just a Buzz Lightyear Commander, dude. You are going to be here for this one game. He's Navy.
We are here all the time. Yeah. Oh, that's right, because you said on the visitor site. Yeah, you probably got the discounted seats.
I paid for the top dollars. Yeah, like, I pay. I'm in the front row, asshole. I pay annually for these.
And no, you're not, you, you're definitely the one that's in the wrong here. You don't talk to a kid and tell, ask a kid to comply to you and expect for that kid to comply. " You still would have said no. " Palmer.
You're right, I still would have said no. It doesn't matter who the guy is, it still would have been the right thing to do. Right? So the game goes by, and it's a blowout.
It was nice to be there when the Bucs are just crashing. " No stress. Yeah, there are some drunk commanders, like there's one drunk commander fan. You're a drunk commander fan.
I like how you call the commanders. He runs all the way down. I'm a picture like Captain Kirk. Is there?
That's their name, the commander. I understand that, but that's the one I'm picturing. He wobbles his way all the way down the stairs and he yells something at the punter or something. He's like, hey, you fucking suck.
Get the trance quarter and get the fuck out of here. And then he kind of wobbles his way back up. I'm like, oh my God, you guys are out of control. Yeah, they're falling apart.
So at the end, yeah, they're just holding on. They're thinking if we get seven wins this year, we'll be happy. Where are they even from? I'm not even familiar with it.
Washington. Washington. Oh, they used to be the Redskins? Yes.
Oh, I didn't know they changed the Commander. Yeah. And then they became the Washington football team. Yeah, I know they used to be Washington football team.
So have they taken the Indian off the helmet too? He's gone. It's just a W. Oh, for Washington.
It's like, you don't spell Commander. They're in shambles. They're in shambles. Oh, barely.
They have no identity now. But it's not Washington State, right? C. It's DC.
It's so crazy to me. Which is funny to me too because there has been like swag. They're not in the state. They have sold stuff outside of the stadium with a W with the state on it.
Right. They're just a complete mess. Well, they get them in China. They don't know.
So I see the guy at the end. The guy that's sitting behind? Yeah, at the end. " And he just, you know, I gave him a little dap.
" Oh, sorry, they lost or sorry your kid stood up? No. Sorry about my kid. He's gonna stay in the whole time.
He's going to stay on the whole game. Well, that was nice of you. " Until you said the thing. I appreciate you being polite.
It doesn't, just because you're polite doesn't mean I'm going to comply. Right. You know, you stand a better chance, but it doesn't, it doesn't mean I'm going to comply. Yeah, you at least get to the 50%, but it's like, well, that's about 49, 50.
That was really nice of you. Yeah, he's going to stand. Right. So, it went well.
Yeah, barely. You want to know who I'm proud of the most though? Derrick. Levi.
No, I'm proud of Jax. Oh. He didn't sit. He didn't bat a fucking eye, man.
I feel like there's a story about this, about a bus. What did Derrick say? Was Derrick getting ready? Like, okay, we're gonna fight.
We're gonna, I'm ready. Let's go. I'm ready. I'm in.
I'm in. Let's go. I think more often than not, he'd bring the karate guy with you. He'd probably be okay with it.
Hi-ya! Wouldn't even see that ninja star coming. I'm going to take this foot and hit you on the left side of your head. Where'd that guy go?
Where'd that come from? I don't, you know, I like my friends, but at the end of the day, I don't count on them to step in. I don't think that it would happen. I just believe that- None of them?
I just, just, I have- A Karate Bob? No, Karate Bob, all of them. I have to, I'm not going into a situation that could arise in conflict thinking, All right, well, they got my back. I'm good.
I don't buy that. I'm a little braver when you guys are there. I got to tell you. Yeah, you don't count on that.
I don't blame you for counting on me. Right. I don't blame you for counting on me at all, you know. I just wouldn't do it.
I wouldn't say, all right, well, Palmer's got me, you know, like this guy. Oh, I would, though. You would get me, yeah. So, I don't know.
Oh, whatever. You know I'd come in with a big old boot around their chest. What music is playing or something. You guys want to sound with that?
So yeah, I mean, so Jax, so Jax could have easily still like, Dad, it's okay, I'm just gonna sit down. Right. Nope. No, you stay, lock your knees.
Don't that, you lock your knees. I don't care if you have to pee, you're not leaving. Yeah, you're peeing right here. You have to pee right there.
But I will never... Dad, my legs hurt, stand up! But look, I will never leave him or Levi in a compromised position either, so like, there was... Well, none of your children.
I was gonna go get water for him, like, you know... Oh, you can't leave. No, I would have, I would have, I would have left as long as Derek was there. Right?
As long as there's another adult there, and I would have broken it down for him, same thing, let's review, these guys say anything. Listen, Derek, these guys say anything over here, you just tell them I'll be right back. You know, you just let Jax know that, hey, you stay, you go ahead, right? So I'm going to leave, and Derek's like, oh, I'll go with you, I need to get something anyway.
So I'm like, okay, well, we both can't go. We can't go at the same time. We can't go to the bathroom together, Derek. You know how this works?
I've already intimidated these guys behind us, what if it says to stay here? You're gonna pee here, I'm leaving. I'm like, I'm not, I'm not gonna tell somebody that we're not gonna comply and then leave my kids unattended. nope not doing it come back kids are gone somebody pushed them out they're on the field they would love that on the field running around they would love that yeah so it was pretty good it was a good game now the show's over thank you for listening to the cigars for pocket i'm out of fuel why are you out of fuel every week you get here that's that thing that's empty too i smoke a lot didn't you hear about the weekend you probably smoked 22 cigars on those car rides Oh, yeah, it was a lot of smoking.
Mm-hmm. One shop I was at had one of these this weekend, that last week. A Hellraiser Cube? Yeah, Hellraiser Cube.
Oh. Oh. Don't remember which one it was. That's his favorite word.
Hellraiser Cube or huh? Oh. Oh. I said it once.
Let's see, count the O's. All right. All right, we got a Phil's Fun Fact. He's got one over there.
Oh, I love Phil's Fun. I look forward to this now every week. It's the highlight of my week. Welcome to Cigar Hustlers Podcast Feature, Phil's Fun Facts.
Unbelievable. Hello, peoples. Once again, there's another fact. From Phil.
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I'm really excited about your facts, man. You're really stepping it up over there. You are, it's very nice. You're doing a great job over there.
I'm not going to comment on that. Being inclusive to all the other people. Yeah, man, it's important. It's nice.
Yeah. You got to take care of everybody. Very male-dominated cigar world that you, you know, include the homosexuals and the LG. You got to take care of everybody.
I guess that's the incorrect, too, is the LGBTQ community. Yeah. Good for you. Sorry, I didn't mean to insult.
Yeah. I mean, he probably meant to insult. He's kind of insulting. Palmer?
Yeah. Just a little bit, maybe. Well, yeah. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings.
I'm sorry. All right. All right, you want to hit the news button? I needed to obtain it in the cigar industry.
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The Cigar Hustler Podcast Report with Mike Toon. JRE promotes Trey Mac Shipley to national sales manager. Trey Mac Shipley? T-R-E-Y-M-A-C Shipley.
Did he throw his middle name in there? What company is this? JRE. I just started with JRE promotes.
I thought you said Jerry. Yeah, Jerry promoted. Is he an assassin or something? Why?
Because we always put the middle name in for the Assassins. Who does that? John Wilkes Booth. Oh.
Come on, man, history. Lee Harvey Oswald. Well, I don't think everybody with three names. It's not just Lee Oswald.
What's that new guy's name? Dead. Trey Mac Kipling. Is that his name, the new guy?
No. Oh. Yeah, he's dead. I don't think I ever said his name.
Yeah. I don't think it is. He's no name. JRE Tobacco has announced that Trey Shipley has been promoted as National Sales Manager.
Shipley has joined JRE in June of 2020 as a Territory Manager. De-assassinator. We should call him. We excited, well, I'll see him at the club, at the club meeting.
Oh. Oh, really, good. Yeah, the National Sales Manager Club. Yeah, we have an organization.
We have a Zoom call. Did you kick out Carney? Yeah, we did. We had to.
Oh, hey, listen. Sorry. I don't know. But he's new now.
He doesn't have a title at Bentley, so we don't know what he is. Hey, do you let him back in with Bentley, or no? He doesn't have a title. Yeah, no title.
No title. He's big on that, though. There was no title on the release? So what am I going to be?
I don't know. We'll get back to you on that. Well, I mean, it's his thing. He can make it whatever he wants.
It shows you how thorough they are. That last article he wrote about how important it is not to give people titles. That's a good point. So he will have no title.
I don't know. I feel like title's kind of important. Is John Carney... That's how it's always been.
You always have to have a title. Because man with no title. Because you need titles for... It's like, I don't know who you are.
You got to solve problems. Hey, who are you? The CEO. Oh, okay.
I know what I can talk to you about. No, I'm John Carney. So, like, if you're the CEO, it's like, it's top of the heap. Like, you got all of them.
No, I'm John Carney. It's like bringing Trey Mac Shipley. If you're, yeah. Right.
If you're CMO, you were like, okay, so you spend a lot of money on stuff that doesn't really do anything. Right. Right. Don't know how to tell you.
Chief Marketing Officer? I didn't write the article. Okay. Hey, can we talk to you about change of business?
Look, man, I'm just a janitor. Well, you didn't say your title was janitor. You didn't indicate that. Well, that could be part of his new job, too.
Yeah? He's got it clean? Maybe. Oh, that's how companies get around it.
Yeah, we don't know how many people are working at Bentley USA or whatever. I'm not going to give you a title, but you'll do everything here. Right, certainly. Right.
That makes sense. That tracks. They're excited to announce Trey Shipley as JRE National Sales Manager for four years of dedicated service and exceptional performance. Trey has consistently demonstrated outstanding leadership and deep understanding and admiration of our brands.
Said the company in a press release, in the new role, Trey will be instrumental in driving our national sales initiative. So he's going to be the driver too. Yeah. Phil, you want to know what you call a person that does everything?
Um, what? National sales manager. That is true. That's the way it works.
Yeah, exactly. I still clean the parking lot on Friday mornings. There you go. You're not above it.
You're so humble. I appreciate you being so humble about that. I meant to shortwave last week there on Friday, but I forgot to tell anybody about my wife. A woodpecker?
You know, there's that power pole over in the corner? Oh, boy. A woodpecker must have hit the wrong thing up there because he was fried down on the ground. They're a lot bigger than I thought they were.
He's huge. Yeah, you saw him. He's a big cartoon. Let's see.
He's driving. He has a track record. He must be driving fast. Right.
Like Tyreek Hill. Innovative approach, so he knows how to drive. In addition to his tenure at JRE, Shipley previously worked for Cremo Cigars, Cremo? C-R-U-M-L-A-T-E-M-O, Cremo Cigars.
Mmm. Universal's Dominican facility suffers a major fire! Uh-oh! Really?
Yes. Do you need to get that? No, I... Are we pausing?
No, but... We're pausing! Hold on, let me comment on this, hold on. Well, I could read the story while you, you know, texting John Garnett.
No, because I want to talk about the previous one. Oh, he's Bluetooth-ed in somebody. I've been trying to reach you regarding the warranty. Oh, yes.
On your lubricant? Yes, it's expired. You know, I don't know if, like, I would look in the realm of kind of developing a brand and be like, oh, you're the Cremo guy? Well, he's been at JRE for four years.
And they promote as territory manager. I don't know if you heard that earlier in the story when I read that. I did hear that. So before that, though, he was at Cremo.
Cremo. Yeah. Keep saying it. I'm still, I'm still.
I've never heard of Cremo. Have you heard of Cremo Cigar? No, I haven't. That's my point.
Well, I mean, even JRE is a little, eh, I kind of heard of it, but I don't think I, you know, if you handed me one, if you went, that's a Cremo Cigar, I went, or JRE Cigar. What's a JRE? I don't know that either. Isn't that Riste?
Is it? I don't know. Yeah. I don't know.
No, that's Justin Perel. I don't fucking know. It's Cremo. They don't know.
I don't know what Cremo Cigars are either, but, you know. Somebody's going to fucking light us up. Yeah. Well, you know, Skip, Jack, all these people that tell us every week how we're stupid.
They cream all cigars, you fucking complete morons. Oh, there's stories about cigars I've never heard of before. 700 accounts, they're crushing and they're dominating the industry. I'm like, okay, all right, cool.
Oh, they're in Miami. The next story is about Universal's Dominican facility. I didn't know if Universal Studios had a facility in the Dominican Republic. Universal Studios has a facility?
Yeah, they had a big fire, Universal's Dominican facility. Universal? That's what it says. Really?
Let's go. At 6am, last Monday morning, not today, last week, a fire broke out in Interbeck, I can't, K-A-U-B-E-C-K, Cowbeck, S-R-L, Universal's Corporate Leafs, S-O-R-I-N-E-N-E-N-E-N-E-C-K-O-B-E-C-K-O-W-B-E-C-K-O-W-B-E-C-K-O-B-E-C-K-O-W, actually it's C-A-U, which still could be Co. I'm sticking with Co. Okay, Co.
Weback? No, not Weback, just B-E-C-K. There's no W. There's no W?
There's no W? It's just Cow Beck. C-O-W, you said. No, K, because I was Cow Beck, I was spelling Cow Beck phonetically.
Ah, so it's, what is it? K-A-U. It's K-A-U? B-E-C-K.
B-A-C-K? B-E-C-K. E as in extra? K-E-O.
It's K-E-O. Wow. K-E-O-B-E-K. I'm glad it's only mentioned once.
Wow. You know, it's in their leaf sorting and sales facility. Oh. And the Dominican Republic.
So it's not Universal Studios. It's Kielmex. It says Universal. It was at that factory, but it's part of the Universal umbrella.
Oh, really? Yes. Interesting. Universal is not a cigar company.
Rather, it's a multifaceted, multinational tobacco and entertainment supplier that grows tobacco and runs parks all over the world. Corbin Dallas. It does things like processing and sorting for a long list of clients that likely include nearly every major cigar company in the world. I don't know if I believe you.
Why? I'm reading it right here off the iPad. It just doesn't sound right. Is this the one that Ventura posted?
No. In a letter sent to clients at Universal obtained by Cigars This Podcast, Philip Schumacher, Managing Director for Enter Tobacco, said that there was a material loss of tobacco and one part of the warehouse affected. The letter says that the staff was not on site at the time of the fire and there was no loss of lives. What was the guys there?
I was not listening. You wanna know how I know there's a recession? All these factories are catching fire. Oh, we have two more.
Yeah. Two more fires? We're not moving at the rate we need to move. So is it Shoemakers?
Terrence, Terrence, what's going on, buddy? Let's light things up. Terrence. Insurance.
Okay, also, oh, listen. I didn't say that. You said, Phil said that. Is that, is that Bentley?
The guy that owns the distribution? No, that's, they're in Germany. It's a totally different Bentley. Oh, yeah.
And it's not even the same Bentley. You're talking about the Schusters. Oh, Schusters, not Shoemaker. Now, Schumacher.
I know who Cremo is, so we can put that on the later. You know who Cremo is? We're not putting anything up on the screen. No, you don't have to put it on the screen.
What is it? It's gonna blow your mind though. Okay, watch Cremo. You're a huge Cremo fan?
No, they were established. He loves when things get Cremo'd. Yeah. They were established in 1896.
Cremo? Cremo? Yeah. The original Cremo Cigar was an icon of the early America and the most successful top selling cigar brand of the early 20th century.
But what have you done for me lately? Yeah, apparently they're not well known now. They were, it was booming through Manhattan, New York, by George Washington Hill. Okay.
So when George Washington Hill, was he an assassin? Oh, he has a middle name. He has three names. Oh, I'm starting to see a pattern here coming out of the Cremo crowd.
So, uh, what, so what year did they, uh, what, what year was they peaked? Uh, 2020 when, uh, that's where I'm trying to go. You're gonna fuck up my joke here. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry.
Oh, I'm not going with that joke. So, no, when did they, when did they develop? When they were peaked in like the 1900s? The early 20th century.
Okay. So that would be 2000, right? No. No.
No. 2020 was when he became territory manager. Okay, so it's safe to say that- So right before that, in the 1900s. It's safe to say that Trey McDaniels over here- Trey Shipley.
Trey Shipley, McCoy, whatever the fuck- Trey Mac Shipley. Didn't- He used to be, he was a rapper before this. He didn't help to reject it into the- Apparently not. Once he left, it sort of just went downhill.
Oh, it fell even worse. Right. So he was just legitimately... He left when the ship was sinking.
You know what? I'm out of here. There's nothing wrong with that. I totally agree with that, Trey.
Sure. You go ahead and you bail. Right. This isn't working and you're not paying me enough.
I gotta go. Exactly. It's not my problem. All right.
Universal's George C. Freeman III, he's retiring. There's a fire, then he announces his retirement. I think you need to step down, buddy.
Seems maybe... Oh, let's read on. Maybe he's in charge of fire safety. There's a bit of a conspiracy.
George Freeman, the longtime head of Universal's Corp's Fire Safety, is retiring from the Tobacco Giant later this year. Oh, you read that before. I read that before? I don't pre-read these.
On October 1st, Freeman would leave his various roles, which include CEO, President, Chairman, and Fire Marshal... Oh, you're out. of Universal. You had one job.
Don't let the buildings burn down. Wait, he was everything. He just wasn't the roller. As CEO since April 2008, President since December 2006, and has been Chairman and Fire Safety Commissioner since 2018.
Look, I don't mean to nitpick here, but listen, 2008 there was a recession, so that guy got fired when the last fire happened, and he came in, there's been no issue, all of a sudden recession, pfft, fire. He will transition to serving as Vice Chair through the end of 2024, and will be Senior Advisor until March 31st, 2025. The end of Universal's fiscal year. There it is.
And when the next fire will happen. No, no, they did their recession. The new guy. Yeah.
Let's see, replacing Freeman is Preston D. Wigner. Yeah. Not Wagner, Wigner, W-I-G-N-E-R, Wigner.
We got a middle name. Who has been at Universal's fire safety school for more than two decades, serving in roles such as secretary, general counsel, vice president, and currently senior vice president in charge of things that won't burn. On October 1st, he will take over all three of Freeman's previous roles, CEO, President, and Fire Chief. Mike, oh, no.
I know, it's terrible. It is a privilege to be named Chairman, President, and Fire Chief of Universal at this exciting time in the company's 100 plus years history of burning tobacco. I am energized by the opportunity to lead our incredible organization and advance our growth strategy by optimizing our leading tobacco business And expanding our ingredients. Ingredients?
They're running out of ingredients. They're burning them. I don't know if that works. Right.
Our future success will be built on the foundation and work of the ashes that we will rise from, as now we are in charge of things. I love that. They all say that. We will rise from the ashes.
I heard that part, didn't I? Oh, you didn't hear that? They haven't said anything. It's not really a thing.
Oh, no, no, it's really a thing, yeah. I don't believe it. Universal Corporation's publicly traded company with a focus on tobacco growing and fires the company's universal leaf division. It has operations in more than 30 countries that allow things to burn.
Yeah, Universal doesn't have any of this. I'm reading it right here. Yeah, you're full of crap. This is not Universal Studios, Michael.
It's a different universe. I tie them together because you go to Universal all the time. No, you're lying. I know you.
No, no, really. Universal Corp is publicly traded. No, it's really, it's a tobacco company. No, I don't believe you.
Okay, whatever. I'm gonna lie, that's two whole stories I had to write, Michael, just to do it. I'm gonna Google Universal Corp Fire. Go ahead.
Okay, go ahead, keep telling on your story. Hold on, Universal's Dominican Facility Fire, do that. No. Keep going, Paul, keep breathing.
Alright, we got another fire. Agonorza Leaf suffers fire at Tobacco Pressets. Oh yeah, that's actually a thing. Oh, there you go.
Thank you very much. But it doesn't say anything about it being related to Universal Studios. No, it's not. I added that for a comedy portion of the show.
It wasn't funny. You were laughing. You don't talk about Universal Studios. You don't talk about Universal Studios.
We don't talk about Universal Studios like that. We'll get a season, we'll get our first season. It's my happy place. So, Agonorza is burnt up?
Yeah, Agonorza had a fire. Agonorza also burnt up. Did you see that I commented on Terrence? Wow.
No. No. " Oh, that's nice. Wow.
On Wednesday afternoon, a fire broke out a facility used by Aganor's Relief for its pre-industry tobacco process. " I mean, they have all the tobacco. Well, they have a lot of it. It's burned up, some of it, no.
You know what, I gotta be honest. It's like taking a chair out of Yankee Stadium when it comes to Aganor's. They're going to be fine. This generally involves sorting tobacco after it comes out of the curing barns, and fermenting the leaves before they are packed for aging and eventually rolled into a cigar after being moved to a factory.
On Wednesday evening, Terrence Riley, VP of Sales and Marketing for Agro's Relief, told CHP that the fire occurred at a facility in La Baranca. B-A-R-R-A-N-C-A. B-A-what? R-R-A-N-C-A.
Baranca. I can't. No, I need you to say it. I can't roll my R's.
Let's go try it. Baranca. There you go. Much better.
And I like how, yes, yes, that's the right. Which is located just south of the rest of the lane along the Pan American Highway. Can you call Cowboy, what's his name, Steve? Cowboy?
Cowboy? Cowboy, it's been right off the Pan American Highway. So I was gonna agree, disagree on this one. Riley did not yet have specifics as to what was in the facility.
It was tobacco. Yeah. How was that? Did they complicate it, Dan?
And maybe one or two dead hookers. Oh, that's why. They don't talk about that. That's why they had to burn it, because they gotta get rid of it.
They gotta get burned. They're gonna find them. What do we do with these bonnies? How do we ignite it?
You know, towards the building. How do we ignite it? Towards the building. Put some fuming stuff in there.
Say the tobacco just burned out. Throw them in the pologne. Set the whole thing on fire. Tie them up with the blue string so we know which one they're in.
There will be nothing. Hey, you get in there and rub your hands together real quick, real fast. Video from the scene shows bales of tobacco being thrown into the fire by Terrence Riley with an eyewitness saying... No, no, that's not what it is.
It says video from the scene shows bales of tobacco being carried out of... Oh, I read that backwards. With an eyewitness saying about 20 bales had been saved, but not the ones with the blue string. Save the fire, not the one with the blue strings.
Nope. No, no blue string, leave that in there. It's got an arm in it. A video posted to Facebook by Radio ABC Stereo shows what appears to be a fairly large man in tan pants standing outside the flames.
In khakis, flexing. Multiple reports indicated that the local army was called to help fight the blaze alongside SLE's fire department and their chief giraffe. Let's see. That's Terrence.
That's Terrence, right? Let's see, an update for September 5th, Riley provided the following statement to Cigar Astro Podcasts. Yesterday, one of our pre-industries caught fire. Well, I haven't read this yet.
Pretty funny. No one was hurt, and although this is a great loss, we are fortunate to have other facilities with a lot more tobacco, so we don't really care. We filed our insurance claim. We filed the insurance claim, yes.
Is that what Terrence sounds like? Yes, exactly what he sounds like. Perfect. Meanwhile, as he's distributing tapas, of course.
Right, yeah, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was serving them to all the firemen in the army. Oh, you guys want some?
With no silverware. You'd like some small bites of food? You guys want to try a little something? Use your fingers.
Hey, why don't we get together and we can all eat a little bit so that you can go get a meal later. Yeah, you can get the fire again later. Get back in there. Get back in there.
Two tapas salads for all of us. Go save the bales. STG is issuing a $3 million bond. Oh.
What? They're about to have a fire. You're not going to believe this. You're not going to believe this.
You're not going to fucking believe this. We're on the train, baby. They heard this was a thing now, we're on fire too. Everything was stolen, and then it caught fire.
Matt Boots in his helicopter with all the tobacco. He's flying over the top, trying to pick it up with the hook. Right. 5 million in bonds next week.
That's a big one. That's a big one. That's a lot of bonds. That's a lot of bonds, man.
That's a lot of bonds, man. 5 million. They listed in, I guess this is, you want to know, you want to know how you're a bad motherfucker in the industry? Yeah.
When your bond sale gets covered by the news, $332 million, my God. That's because there was no other fires. Yeah, right. There's no more fires.
The fire, fire, and bond. 875%. It will be issued by via Euronext Dublin and Citigroup Global Markets Europe AG Dansk Bank. They had to get more than one bank because it's so much money.
Right. Nordisk Bank Acbean and Joint Bank. Okay. The company said the proceeds of the offering will be used for general corporate purposes including the refund and certain existing debt.
I just want to ask for $330 million. Hey, you know, we're going to need $330 million. I'll take half. I'm not greedy.
No, fuck that. I need at least a $330 million to get going. And you'll never see me again. $115 million, I'm good.
875 percent, what's the, how long? Till 29. So, it's a five year? Well, they do it now, yes, yeah, September 12th, so five year.
Oh, you want me to pay this back? Okay, yeah, just sign right here, all right, perfect. We're a solid business. Yeah, look, listen, if I'm Justin Andrews, I get in on that conversation, I'm like, look.
How many of these gate cutouts do you guys need? How high can we go? Yeah. Mike, at what point do, and can we just say it totally imploded?
Five years? That's just in, SCG disappears. CEO and COO of SCG disappear. And fire safety.
Justin Andrews. And Justin Andrews, the new fire safety director of the company. Last seen flying across Bermuda Triangle. Gone.
com, Cigar, Bid, Thompson Cigar, Pipes & Cigars, and Cigara. - They own everything. - They own everything. It also owns General Cigar Company, Ford Cigar, which sells Cohiba, La Gloria, Cubana, Partagas, and other brands, USA, in both the US and international markets.
It sells Agio, Alec Bradley, CAO, Macanudo, Room 101, and Taranio. SCG also has a strong machine-made business, especially in Europe, as well as that includes pipe, just all sorts of shit. They own everything. - They get a great advertisement off of that.
- My goal is to get this company. The stories are so long, because everybody lists everything that they own. My goal is to get this company so damn big that they have to pull a surety bond to fucking pay me. Oh.
Yeah. Half a billy. All right, now we have a Florida story. Finally, all these fires and people getting promoted.
Yeah. There's a fire in Florida. Burglary suspect arrested in Paisley after asking a deputy to test his meth. You have to hear this story.
It seems logical. I get it. He wanted to know it was real. Wait, he bought it before you get it.
No, no, no. No, yeah. Okay, that's even better. That's even better.
I love that. So he stole it, and then he wanted to verify. Yes. Yeah.
So I hear you have a test kit in your vehicle. Is that true? Is it possible for you to check this? Well, yes, I do.
Well, I haven't done anything wrong. Well, I haven't done anything wrong. Could you test this and see what it is? I need to hear the details on the story.
I love that, because, you know, the cops are like, you're not going to fucking believe this. Yeah. Everybody get over here now. Everybody get over here.
I have a story. A man accused of burglarizing a home in Paisley last month was arrested after presenting a deputy He was a deputy with a bag of meth and asking him to test it, according to the Lake County Sheriff's Office. The deputy was patrolling around noon, it wasn't even a night, he was in the middle of the day, August 27th on Highway 42, when he was flagged down by the victims of an alleged burglary, the sheriff's office said on social media. One of the victims described the suspect, identified as Timothy Gunter, 34, and pointed in his direction further up the road.
See, not an assassin. That guy over there, he looks just like him. He stole money from, he stole stuff from our house. He took it.
But he's not an assassin. Let's see, after catching up to Gunter, the deputy said the suspect... Oh, it's Gunter now, not Gunter? Gunter.
Because you said Gunter before. I just want to know who we're doing. Potato, potato. After catching up to Timothy, the deputy said the suspect spontaneously uttered that he had received some bad narcotics and presented a plastic bag he filled with a clear crystal-like substance, according to the sheriff's office.
Right. Timothy then told the deputy that something was wrong with the substance. with the substance and requested that it be tested, the Post states, adding he otherwise allegedly admitted to entering the victim's residence because he heard dogs barking inside. Heard these dogs barking.
It went inside. I found this stuff. Damn dog barking. It looks like bad meth.
Can you test this for me? I'm trying to let him out. The substance was tested, after all, producing a presumptive positive result from methamphetamines. So at least it did have something.
Yes, it was. It wasn't just, you know. No, it was good stuff. Yeah, it was top of the line street.
You know, sir, if you didn't rob this house, I would have let you go. I'm trying to test this meth. Was it the blue meth? No, he said it was crystal clear.
It was crystal clear? Yeah. That's not the same as the blue. No, no, not the blue.
That's where the zombies came from. Is that where the zombies came from? You haven't heard that connection? No.
Yeah. Daryl Dixon and his brother, when they were first introduced to the show, they have a bag of blue meth. Ah, makes sense. Yes.
And I think the brother is living in the RV, if I'm not mistaken. Maybe. Yes. Timothy was booked to the Lake County Jail to face charges of criminal mischief with damages to property in less than $200 possession of a controlled substance.
So it wasn't much. Oh, excuse me. It's still a felony. Without a prescription and an unarmed burglary of an occupied device.
All right, this has been episode 351 of the Cigar Hustler Podcast. Thank you. Who's number one? Was the meth worth $18,000 there, Phil?
Cigar Hustler? The podcast. Now, are you talking about the bond? No, we're not talking about the bond.
We're talking about the meth. No. He was being held an $18,000 bond. Would the meth have covered the bond?
No, probably not. That'd be a lot of meth. I don't know what meth goes for. I'm trying to see if it says what size of the bag.
It doesn't say, it just says the bag. Yeah, they didn't get enough details on the store. A baggy filled with clear, crystal-like substance garniture. It's a bag filled.
Who knows what size the bag it is? All right, Michael, you guys, Shop of the Week! You're the National Sales Manager, you should have the Shop of the Week. Alright, hit the button.
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Stogies. Yeah? Alright, you gotta Listener of the Week? Uh, you're the...
Hit the button. Listener of the Week, Shia Goldberg! Oh! Big fan of the show.
Big fan of the show. Love that. There you go. Okay.
Alright, this has been Episode 351, Cigars are Podcast. All right, guys, we have to go smoke this magnificent cigar that Michael has already put on. Thank you very much. Thank you.
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