September 17, 2024· 1h 5m

Cigar Hustlers Podcast Episode 352 Sensei Eric from Cigar Dojo, Powstanie Snubbed, and Industry News You Won’t Get Anywhere Else

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Cigar Hustler Podcast episode

352 recorded live at the Mike

and Mike Production Studios in

Deltona, FL.

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Yeah, she's very busy.

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And what are we reviewing for

the Patreon?

Because Jack Toronto really

wants to hear.

Another Yeah, Jack, Really.

He loves to as he says, we're

doing all reviews.

All reviews we're not.

Going to talk.

About anything else we're doing

the Ossinger family cigars OFC.

Yeah.

I can't see that.

There's no way I can.

See it the Bosphorus leguido

number.

Leguido number AC this is.

Their new limited edition just

came out.

Oh, sorry, you got there.

It just came out, you know.

We saw the box, Steve and I

went.

What do we get from Crown heads?

Listen, we're going to review

this cigar on the Patreon, OK?

It's all we're doing.

And no, we'll do other things

too, but I'm going to tell you

right now.

Take clothes off and review the

cigar.

I'll tell you right now if

anybody at Crown Heads, John

Huber, if they want to hear it,

if you want to hear my opinion

on it, pay the $10 like

everybody else.

Right.

OK don't go sharing it

especially if you have video.

Then you know Mickey pegs into

$30.

Yeah, Oh, he's upped it.

No, no, he's done 3 episodes

now.

Three episodes.

It's once a month, 10 bucks a

month. 10 bucks a month?

Yeah, he'll be $30.00, so maybe

just wait until the end of the

month.

Yeah, I think we got him in

August though.

So we're doing well.

We're.

Going to get 20.

Bucks, we just need to stay ad

free and we're going to be

honest.

Don't be mad that we're honest,

unbiased.

That's how it works.

Unfiltered, unbiased opinions

and all things cigars and

personalities on the cigar

world.

Yeah, yeah, let's see, just so

we know what the gram is.

Here, I hate when you do that

beforehand because I'm not

prepared to do that.

You're.

Going to smoke it.

Well, I have one. 17.4g and it's

17.7g.

I don't have, I don't have

Liquido on my list.

Liquido 6 by 52.

Is that what The thing is?

It looks bigger.

Oh, I have them.

Oh boy.

Oh well, in somebody hit the Oh

no button.

Oh no.

Yes, I.

Already forgot what you said the

way it was.

That's 17.7g.

All right, hold on.

I'm going to write that on here.

Write that down.

You're the writer down. 17.7

yes, but I have stuff for this

show up and I'm not ready for

the other show.

Write that down.

All right, all right, we're

rolling, rolling, rolling,

rolling.

Keep that right.

So OK, and so you're and over

there and lighten it.

Yes Wow, that looks delicious.

The Dojo, Yeah, they did their

draft.

OK.

And it is cigar company draft.

I don't know how it works but I

saw they were doing it but I

refused to watch it because

it's.

Silly.

Seems like it is seems.

Seems a bit.

Yes, I started it and they went

OK.

We have the first one up is

Aaron Loomis.

I don't know how they decide,

but what are they?

Have you watched that prior?

Have you been part of it before

or anything?

I don't know how it works

either.

But anyway, we are not on the

list.

I have the list.

You have the list.

Of course I do, Michael.

I would not talk about.

It so you mean Postana is not on

the list?

Correct.

Us, we, we, we, us, us.

And there I'm going to hold back

a little bit of this story for

the Patreon.

OK.

But yeah, we are not on the

list, but there are companies on

the list.

They do small, medium and large.

OK, There are companies on the

small list smaller than us.

So who's on the list?

Not as important as us.

Well, I'm glad you asked,

Michael, because I have the

list.

Excellent.

I have the list.

OK, Large companies.

Yeah.

I still don't know what they do

with this.

I don't know what they're

figuring, sales or what.

I don't know what they're what

they do.

OK, but large list.

Dru Estate, Cohiba, Perdomo,

Alec and Bradley, are they large

or are they medium?

I think they would be more of a

medium.

They're fucking large.

Are they large?

Yeah.

OK.

Camacho.

OK.

Dabitoff.

OK.

Oliva Hoya de Nicaragua.

OK.

Rocky Patel.

Yeah.

AJ Fernandez.

All right, I get it.

My father.

There's only three more My

father's cigars.

Pedron, Otero, Fuente and

Placencia.

OK.

Large companies.

Got it.

OK.

Seems reasonable.

I can, Orson's not on there.

No, they are a medium list.

Consider medium, medium.

So we have Quesada.

Interesting.

OK.

Agronorsa Tatwa.

Hey, Yep.

Crown heads all right.

Lugion speed it up.

Espinoza.

Yep.

LFD La Palina Asylum Room One O

1 EP Corillio, Aladino

Foundation and Dunbarton.

OK, Is foundation a medium size?

If you're going to put Dunbarton

in that category, then you I

was.

Going to say but I don't.

Think they're large?

I think they classify as medium.

No Roma, No.

No, those are medium.

But Roma was on there.

No, no, I just did large and

medium.

Now I'm doing small.

OK, so we would be on the small

list obviously.

Yeah, but Roma wasn't on the

medium list.

No, they're on the small list.

Interesting.

So we have Rojas cigars.

This is small, Warped,

Blackbird, Black Star Line, HVC,

Fratello, Caldwell, Black Label

Protocol, Cavalier, Fiero, Tego,

McAuliffe, Romacraft and

Adventura.

That's the small ones.

OK, I feel like we would have.

We, we belong on there.

We would have been a better

choice than some of the others.

You know, like Blackbird.

Blackbird There was another one.

Black Starline.

I love those guys, but we've

been around longer than they

have.

Yeah.

I mean, how big is protocol?

That's what's his name, right?

What's his name?

I can't think of it.

Quan cancel.

Quan, Quan Cancel.

Who introduces himself to me

every single time he meets you.

That's good.

Yeah, I love that.

I love him.

And he takes his glasses off and

he goes, oh, I'm sorry, I can't

see what these.

How you doing?

I'm Quan Juan.

Cancel.

Yeah, it's nice to meet you.

What is your name?

Mike Palmer.

Oh, oh, yeah, sorry.

And he even drops the accent.

No accent at that point either.

That's like the, you ever see a

video when it's like before he

before you view your wife and

after or, you know, whatever and

like the person's going up the

escalator.

It's a husband, he's looking

hard and stuff and then he sees

him like, yeah, it's the same

scenario, same idea.

Yeah, 1 loves you.

Oh, yeah, no, I love one.

Yeah, right.

Just it's just, it's just always

funny.

It is funny.

Yeah, 'cause usually at night

time you can't see with

sunglasses on.

But I like how he loses the

accent.

Yeah, some of those, I mean,

first Roman craft I would think

would be more medium than small.

He would, yeah.

They definitely qualify as

medium.

Right.

What are we calling?

I'll tell you in a second.

Well, I'll recognize the voice.

So let's see if he answers.

Here.

Hey, Eric, what's up, buddy?

What is going on?

Listen, you are on our podcast

right now this very second, OK?

Are you OK with that?

Sure.

Yeah, I I'm OK with that.

I'm on a podcast right now.

Well, it's being taped.

It's being taped.

It will play tomorrow.

Yeah, if you get mad and you

want us to not include you,

that's fine, but I want.

Well, you can ask us not to.

But I, yeah, I mean, yeah.

Well, no, I would respect.

I respect Eric.

I love it.

I feel like we respect Eric more

than Eric respects.

Us.

Oh, certainly.

Yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely.

We look up to him.

Yeah.

We Yeah.

He's a figurehead in the cigar

media of Dome or whatever he is.

He is.

Certainly is.

So Palmer said that he you guys

had a draft about companies

fantasy.

Football.

Sort of like a fantasy football

thing.

Yeah, on Friday, yeah.

OK, do that.

How does that work exactly?

What do you do from now that now

you've all picked your teams?

What happens now or is that it?

You guys are going to move on to

sandwiches next week like Coop?

Exactly.

OK.

Got you.

We're going right into pizzas.

Fun.

Nope, Coop is doing pizzas right

now.

Paying attention, Michael, I'm

sorry.

Shenanigans and stuff, you know?

So really what what do you guys

do with the inversion now?

How do you score this and pick

winners?

And for those of us that didn't

listen to your show and we all

apologize.

Well, yeah, I mean, that's the

first thing you should do.

You should be listening.

Yeah, well, I listened to the

1st 15 minutes, so I tried.

OK.

Well, that's not good enough.

I understand.

I will.

Do I?

You know what?

I'm not apologizing.

I will.

Do better.

You need to do better.

I will do better.

We've done four of these over

the years and basically it's

just kind of a fun.

But the panel in this case it

was Coop, Aaron Loomis, John

Mctavish and Robbie Razz and

they pick two large companies, 2

medium companies, two small

companies and one flex.

And then the audience votes on

who picked the best team in

their opinion.

So they pick.

So you guys just pick them?

You just pick them.

There's no stats on sales or new

cigars or anything like that.

Oh, OK, OK, interesting 'cause

that sounds like a lot of work

to be honest.

With you.

Interesting.

There's a lot of, you know,

banter back and forth.

Why did you why did you pick

that?

You know, like this year, Coop

busted out with his first

overall pick was Black Label

Trading Company, which was we

all thought a little crazy.

Not nothing wrong with Black

Label Trading Company, no.

No, no, but it's a crazy.

First round pick.

Yeah, it's a bold move.

That's like picking your

defense, you know, in the first,

the first pick of the fantasy.

Draft 'cause they would, they

would technically be there come

round four or five or something

like that.

Yeah, right.

That'd be a great fourth or

fifth round pick.

Yeah.

Excellent.

So we actually, so we have like

a we have to be mad at everybody

now.

Everybody we have to be mad at

John Mctavish, Aaron Loomis,

Coop, because not a single one

of them picked Postonia.

Well, we're not on the list.

We weren't an option.

I don't.

Think, don't think this.

So we change it up every year.

We change the list of teams.

So we're just keep.

It fresh.

That's what I mean.

He he made the list.

You made the list, Eric.

You're the sole person of the

list.

Have we ever been on the list?

How do we How do we get on this?

List So I think so.

I don't remember though.

I mean, we've done this for four

years and I can't remember

every, but it seems like it

seems like we've had you on the

list.

Let me make sure you weren't on

the list this time, no?

No, we weren't this time.

I have the list.

No, weren't on the.

List.

Yeah, you were not on the list.

So no you you put Blackbird on

instead.

So we we had one.

We did like you see, a Blackbird

made the cut.

It didn't.

Yes, yes, we are.

Yes.

OK, so, So what happened?

Like did we, did we upset you

with the, with our one interview

that we did where we had all the

fun activities going on?

Yeah.

We've never been invited.

Back.

We never came back.

You never came back.

Who was it?

Were you like man, fuck those.

Guys, you got to understand

almost nothing upsets.

Me.

Nothing.

I told you.

Maybe it was embarrassing.

Or embarrassed him.

It was such a good interview.

We had fucking.

We had Jedi warriors fighting in

the background.

We did.

We had a trying to source Rex.

Yeah.

I'm especially a sociopath, so

you can't actually get any

emotion out of me whatsoever.

I love that.

About you now he's one of my

favorite people.

OK.

All right.

So now we're going to go.

We're going to do some of our

due diligence here and we are

going to circle back here.

We're going to go look into the

last four years.

I don't think that we've ever

been on the.

List I have ever been on the

list.

I I'm going to make a mental

note to make sure you are

included in the next fantasy.

Crap, it's not.

Going to happen.

He'll freak it right then.

Yeah, well, piss him off.

I'm a sociopath and he started

with I'm a sociopath.

He's not writing.

He's like, I'm going to write

that down and he's shaking his

head no right now.

He's like, no.

Somebody's writing it down.

He's going there's.

No fucking way I'm doing this.

OK.

Well, we're going to we're going

to review, we're going to we're

going to look into this, we're

going to get to the bottom of it

and we're going to call you back

again next week and we're.

Going to every week till next

year.

We're going to talk about it,

We're going to talk about some

more.

But hey, to all our listeners

and our video people that watch

us on YouTube, please check out

Cigar Dojo, right?

Yes, every Friday night.

When, When is it Eric?

Friday, every Friday night at

7:00 Mountain, of course, that's

9:00 PM Eastern, but we're in

the mountain time zone, so I say

that.

And then we have a Wednesday

show too, which is play Rod to

see.

So we have the two two shows you

can check out if you feel moved.

Perfect and the easiest platform

to find you on is.

Well, you know, obviously, Sir

God rosa.com, but you know, we

have our social

platform@dojoverse.com and

that's where most dudes hang out

and check into their cigars and

earn their black belt and so on

and so forth.

There you go.

All right.

Perfect.

Who was that?

There you go.

Well, thank you very much for

taking my call.

Appreciate you being on the

show.

Today, very nice of you.

I'm sure that you're actually

working, so thanks for just

picking up.

I appreciate you taking the

phone call on a whim 'cause

that's how.

Anytime my friends, you guys

have a fantastic week.

All right, brother, you as well.

Thanks, man.

All right.

Bye.

See Justin, that's how you do

it.

You answer the phone when Perry

call.

Maybe.

He's man.

We never get his name right.

Maybe.

Listen, no one on this planet is

going to get my last name right.

I know you say it every time

when I say nobody's got his name

right.

So, you know, it's probably four

years ago that we upset him with

our shenanigans on the other

when you were on the other show.

You know, he said he wasn't

upset.

Man, he's not going to admit

that.

You don't think so?

He's a sociopath, so he's just

lying, right?

OK, but you won't know because

he's a sociopath.

Well, hey, we'll see if we make

the list next week or next year.

We've got a whole year now.

You would think you could parlay

this into more than one episode.

I'm calling Mctavish and I'm

like, yo, first round draft

pick, I want a solid.

It's like it's like having a top

running back and not having them

on the drunk.

I mean, how do you do that

exactly?

Fucked up, fucked up.

Right.

Oh, I inquired about making the

background for Mr. Mctavish,

Mike Palmer, national sales

manager, with my picture.

Yeah.

And I was immediately moved from

Mctavish to Loomis.

I guess I had to work my way up.

Oh, you have to talk to the top

of the heap.

Yeah.

You have a contract already with

the show?

Yeah, they would be willing to

put me in for one or two

episodes at no additional cost

if it's OK with you.

Oh, you know what?

I appreciate that.

It's very nice of them.

But yeah, of course.

All right, well, I wanted to

ask.

Yeah.

All right.

I will give Mr. Loomis the

cause.

I've already got it designed and

everything.

I thought it'd be.

It'd be funny.

Yeah.

Live from the Mike Palmer

National Civil Manager Studio.

I am John Mctavish and he's

going to do like a 1970s news

guy voice when he does the

introduction.

Oh, I love that.

Right.

Yeah, man, mix it up.

I wanted to do different things.

It's just like, oh, we can do

all these different things.

And then I'm like, oh, OK,

let's.

Yeah, apparently we do anything

we want for the year.

Yeah.

Right.

Yeah, I'm sure.

There's no additional charge.

I'm sure that we're close to

switch up getting them paid

again.

It'll be around the corner so

we'll get a nice and fresh.

You can handle all of that.

Oh perfect.

Yeah, you can handle the

marketing as well.

Have my free time.

CMO, it's going to be great.

CMO is that chief marketing

office.

Change marketing office.

Chief.

Not chief, Chief.

Oh, I thought it was like CRM.

No, but it's a title.

That's customer relations.

Manager.

I know I thought this was some

type of customer.

Marketing.

Yeah, I'm going to give you all

types of names.

CMO.

Make a more press releases cope

they come CFO he loves.

It Mike Palmer.

Head parking lot cleaner Vice

president of parking lot.

CFO of the Parking.

Lot it's the one you don't want

me counting the money, you don't

want me to.

Do nothing.

No no.

Will you count the money for

here?

Yeah, but we don't.

Have any?

Yeah, it's not there.

Hey.

What is there to count?

It's pretty easy.

We have the bills on auto draw.

I write Greg a check for the

rent and nothing else gets

touched.

Just the rest of it, right?

I love that.

That's perfect.

Perfect.

So I I had a pretty busy

weekend.

I did too.

Did you?

Yes.

Let's go.

I went to the Cars and Cigars

over in Sanford with Blend and

Barrel and was there with my

friend John Carney from Bentley

Cigar You.

Were the John Carney was.

There.

Yes.

The John Carney.

Really.

Yes.

What was I didn't take any

pictures with him.

Some reason.

It felt odd.

I don't know why.

Is it 'cause he's tall?

Well, he's very tall.

He's very tall, very tall.

No, just didn't feel like the

thing 'cause he's very busy

talking to people and

everything.

I mean, he spoke to me.

I saw him soon as he walked in,

big hug and mainly stuck a cigar

in my mouth, you know?

So you just.

Didn't want to be affiliated

with him.

Well, no, I didn't.

We sat in chairs and talked, but

I just he was he wasn't there to

take pictures of me.

He was there with other stuff

for you know, I I'm obviously

not buying any of them.

I was there to weasel one, but I

wore, you know, pastagna clothes

and I'm sorry, this, this is the

part.

People, Eric's texting me.

Eric got Oh, you guys were not

in the show.

Stop calling me.

Don't call me ever again.

It says it says right here this

will be our last text right as I

am blocking you moving forward.

Exactly.

That's what it says.

Tell Palmer not to call me

either.

PS Coop says the same thing.

Coop says find some other

content.

Yeah, Coop says.

He's done with you now.

You don't have a show you.

Don't have a show you?

Have no content for your show.

But I mean, I guess they do a

quarterly.

They fill the.

They block off the street, they

fill it full of cars and things

and they have a food truck and

it was very busy.

A big crowd.

Yeah, yeah.

Cool.

And then Adrian had taken my mom

to get her nails done there in

Sanford.

So we took mom to the Firehouse.

Alex, her son, came over.

His fiance was out of town so he

came over for the night and he

also met us for lunch.

OK.

Yeah.

So it sounds like you had a

good.

Week Saturday, Sunday her and

Alex went to church, so that's

when I did the yard and then she

had a brunch scheduled with some

girls.

So I came up here and caught up

on all the customer service

stuff associated with the cigar

hustler that the retail

establishment upstairs.

Nice.

So that's all caught up.

It's very busy.

Oh, then I went to the grocery

store.

I went to Target.

Now we're fading.

We're fading.

Well, those are not nearly as

exciting, but things that had to

get.

That's the grass being cut.

I did cut the grass.

Twice and once you spread

across.

Because is everything so wet?

Yeah, 2 days.

Yeah, the on Sunday, actually,

the batteries overheated and

would not charge again.

So, you know, there's that.

It's hard out there.

It is this time of year, grass

is thick, grass is wet.

I have an electric mower.

So it's tough, yeah.

That's the way it works, yeah.

Well, we did a bunch of things.

Yeah.

What did you do?

One day I took my kid and I

didn't bring him to school and I

took him to Universal.

That must have been Friday.

No, it's not Friday, you said.

We're talking about this week.

Thursday.

Oh, that was Thursday.

Yeah, yeah.

So just the one.

Just justice.

Oh, not even the big one.

No.

Oh, the middle wanted him to

feel important.

So we said we'll take you, we'll

do whatever you want.

He's a kid, you can say.

How did that go with the other

one though?

Oh, they were both irate.

Oh, Teddy wants two?

Yeah.

Oh, I figured she might have

been OK.

She might not be at that age yet

where she notices like no.

No, no, no.

They were both irate.

But Jackson, he's going to.

I said to Jackson like, wait a

second, didn't you just go to

the Gator game two weeks ago?

Yeah.

Yeah, it's not universal.

Didn't you have a Bucks game the

week before?

Yeah.

I didn't miss school.

Yeah, I don't care.

Jax gets a lot of things.

Sure he does.

He's a first born.

It just kind of naturally

happens.

Is the heir to the cigar he's.

The one no, I don't think that

he would be the heir to the

cause.

Technically he is the I.

Don't think that he would be.

He's got, I don't think that

he's interested at all, Justices

flat out said.

What I want to do is I want to

have three kids and I want to

have the cigar, cigar business.

Oh, well, there you go.

Yeah, perfect.

What does Jax want to?

Do what does he want to do other

than like play?

Play sports or something?

He wants to be a quarterback in

the NFL.

Gotcha, good for him.

That's what he wants to do.

Good.

He's a smart kid.

He does work.

Yeah.

So we'd, you know, I embrace all

of it.

Sure.

All those things just.

Wants to be a Princess?

No, she's very well just be a

Princess.

Apparently she told Brittany

yesterday or last week that she

wants to be a cop, a doctor and

a firefighter.

All the same time she's.

Going for all three.

She could technically do that.

Yeah, it's kind of like a

modified Judge Dredd is what it

is.

Yeah, yeah, I got a friend who

is a sheriff and a firefighter,

but he's not a he's not a

doctor, though.

Yeah.

I mean, you could easily add

that in.

Yeah, he's.

Well, there's that attorney here

in town that's a doctor and an

attorney.

They have a doctorate, you mean?

No, no, he is a medical doctor.

Yeah, and an attorney.

And an attorney, yes, OK.

I like that you chose.

Violence.

It's the the blonde guy.

See what happens.

I didn't choose violence.

You could always get a doctor.

No, he is a doctor.

He does mostly medical cases.

OK, fine.

OK.

You win.

Newland.

The Newland Guy Dan Newland Dan

Newland.

Oh yeah.

Yeah, I think it's Dan.

I think it's pretty sure Tim, he

used to use that as

advertisements.

He doesn't anymore.

Maybe let the doctor thing

slide.

I don't know if you have to

renew your license or maybe he

wrote a bad prescription now no

longer.

No longer one bad script.

See that Allegedly.

Allegedly because.

He knows how to sue people.

He could do.

He could sue us for fun.

Right.

Wouldn't cost him a dime.

One of his associates do it

anyway.

Go after this little podcast.

They said a bad thing about me.

So what's cool about taking

Justice into doing something

like this is that he's

reasonable.

So it's like, oh, can I play?

Can we play mini golf?

Like, sure.

So we play mini golf.

Oh, right.

Did you come in?

Yeah.

I don't even know how to get to

that.

Oh, it's you see it down below

from the.

Breeze right after the movie

theater.

So then he says.

Oh, you go around that way.

Yeah, so so he did press.

Here he goes.

Well, can I do another round of

mini golf?

I'm like, no, we're done.

No, just the one.

He goes OK, and then we went

around I hate mini golf.

Oh, it was fun.

And once it's fun, twice no.

With a with just three, we kind

of breezed through it.

I think that.

Was oh, he brought a friend.

No, it's me, Brittany and.

Oh, Brittany went too.

I thought it was just you and

the boy.

No, I got oh, he got mommy and

daddy.

Yeah.

Oh, like an only child day.

Yeah, I like an only child day.

That's nice.

So then, you know?

He asked.

For a middle kid, I mean, that's

very nice.

It's a nice day, Yeah, Even if

you didn't do Universal.

And then we went to Universal.

No, no, I know.

But even, you know, the middle

kids, usually the one that they

say doesn't get as much

attention as the first one or

the last one, right?

So just having a day of mommy

and daddy by himself, he could

have just walked around the mall

and we would have been having,

right?

This is a bonus.

Sorry, go ahead.

So, you know, but if I said,

hey, you can get whatever you

want to Jack's right, he'd be

going for the most expensive.

Thing you get in a car.

Yeah, yeah.

Whereas this guy, he's like, can

I get a stuffed animal?

He likes his stuffed.

Animal.

He's a big stuffed animal guy.

He likes his stuffed stuff.

Yeah, so we got a Patrick

SpongeBob SquarePants.

Oh, stuffy.

Yeah.

And then he wanted to make sure

that he got something for the

other two.

Nice.

Little Pez dispensers for them.

Oh.

Yeah, I get to.

I have a giant life-size

Patrick, you guys at.

Least they got something.

It's a key chain.

Yeah, he did get a key chain as

well.

Oh, for his.

Keys like golf ball.

Oh, he put on his backpack, you

know.

Yeah.

And we had lunch down there at

the twosome.

At what?

The twosome factory.

The Chocolate Factory.

Oh yeah.

Oh, on the other side of the

water.

Gotcha.

Yeah, he had a great time.

Good Friday, we did football.

But.

It was just the the 3-4 team, It

was just the third grade, 4th

graders.

It was just Patriots justice

team and then our silver team.

And it's kind of funny, man,

because so so Jax has been

trying to coach offense for the

Gold team.

Right.

Yeah, Yeah, you mentioned that

at the end of he started last.

Year he coaches defense, but he

wanted to coach offense as well,

so I let him run it a little.

Bit free up your time.

I let him run it a little bit in

practice and I think we were up,

it was like 18 to six, right?

And I he goes, can I run the

office?

Can I run the offense?

And said if you stop him here on

defense, then I'll let you run

the offense.

He's like, OK, so you know, and

I announced that in front of the

whole team.

So the team gets to pick 6.

So they enters up the ball and

they run it back for a

touchdown, OK, And it's like,

OK, so I'm like, yeah, next

time, you know, you got to go

out on defense again.

But yeah, it's yours.

So they go back out again on

defense and they get another

pick 6 I.

Don't know what that means.

They intercept the ball and they

run it back for a touchdown.

Oh, OK, gotcha.

Pick it.

And they get six.

OK, pick 6.

I thought they picked something.

No, Yeah, they picked the

football.

Wow, they caught the football.

Yeah, they picked it.

They said Catch 6.

I might have known what it.

Was so it was a catch.

So it was a catch. 6 So I'm

like, all right, here you go,

man.

Here's the offensive stuff and

whatever.

Oh, the book.

Yeah, here's the book.

It's all ears.

So he goes out there and give.

Him, the whistle.

No, you don't have a whistle

when you're playing the game,

only when you're practicing.

Why don't you?

Why don't I have a whistle?

Because.

Because the refs have the

whistle.

Gotcha.

And he goes down the field and

he scores.

Oh Oh yeah, nice from plays that

he called.

Yeah.

Or do you guys let the team just

do what they want?

No, he called the place.

Oh nice.

Yeah, read the other team saw

where their where the problems.

Were yeah, I don't know.

I don't know what he did.

Got his thing out here.

Let's see.

Oh, we got to do this.

OK?

We're doing the flea flicker,

guys.

The flicker.

We weren't done in practice.

And what's funny is, you know,

there are still some things that

the team has to work on.

There's still some drop balls,

still some miscues and stuff

like that.

I'll get you later.

That's fine, don't worry.

I'm not worried about.

It.

Yeah, I know you're not at all.

But it was pretty, it's pretty

remarkable to see what your kid

becomes capable of when you

continue, when you continue to

do kind of frequency, like

frequent things over and over

again.

And they get comfortable with

things.

So, you know, I'm recording them

a little bit and then the silver

team shows up.

I'm trying to coat, like warm

them up and then get in, you

know?

So did you move to defense or he

did the entire team?

I sat on sidelines.

That that wasn't a question, you

just completely removed yourself

from the situation.

Of course, good for him.

And then he drove down, he got

the ball again.

Should give me a shirt.

He's got his own shirt.

He.

Has AI know?

I know, but your shirt would

have been so much bigger.

It would have.

It would have been, you know,

then.

What would I have worn dummy

well?

You like being shirtless all I.

Don't like being shirtless?

You love being shirtless.

Not true, Brittany, if you could

verify that information, please.

How often is he shirtless?

Because when we travel, then

we're in the hotel.

There goes his shirt.

That's not true.

And then I put more clothes on

and he makes fun of me.

He puts sweatshirts.

I like to sleep in sweatpants

and sweatshirt.

Yeah, it's kind of weird.

Why?

Because my house is very cold at

night.

It's what I'm used to and I'm

comfortable.

Strange.

Why?

Because it is.

Why is it strange?

It's a lot.

You're over there in a little

Tarzan banana hammock sleeping,

and I'm sleeping in a park over

here.

Tarzan banana hammock, What

you're doing over there.

Oh.

Swinging on your C pap hoes.

Swinging on my C pap hoes.

Living my best life.

Living your best life over

there.

So listen to that book on Take

One.

You are great, you are big,

everyone loves you.

So he goes down the field a

second time and he scores again.

Oh, look at that.

He scored two touchdowns.

Did he stop the other team from

scoring?

Yeah.

Oh nice.

Yeah, they only scored one time

against us.

It was against him.

Yeah, well, it's us.

It's us.

Well, I've tried to get the boy

more credit.

Well, you just tried to have him

take accountability for the one

time that they scored against

him.

Well, I, I, I when I asked, I

thought you were going to say

no.

They didn't.

No, it's not just him, it's us.

Well, I understand there's a

whole team right?

But I was giving him the credit

as being a first time solo

coach.

Well, he did a great job so.

Sounds like it.

So when we went to basketball

the next day, we were reviewing

because I started.

I watched some of the clips from

the game and Justice scored

three touchdowns.

Oh yeah, so the Big Brother

coached the little brother, and

the little brother got 3

touchdowns.

Oh nice.

Which is amazing, right?

And what's even funnier is that

like when none of us had any

idea.

So you didn't know?

Oh, because you were watching

the coaching you didn't see

well.

Dude, it's like, it's like, I

don't know, drinking from a.

Fire hydrant.

Fire hose.

That's euphemism.

Because I got because I got 8

here and then I got another 8

coming in right?

They're like, hey, what's up?

You know, like, so I'm like,

whoa, come on, stop right,

listen, you know, I need you to

kind of focus, right?

So, so and then, you know,

Brittany's got Teddy and she's

impossible on the field, right?

You know she.

Cheerleader.

She dressed a little.

Cheerleader.

Sometimes she hasn't recently.

She might need a newer one.

She might need.

I think you mentioned it was too

small.

Yeah.

If we could take some please for

the Princess.

So not even the guy that scored

the touchdowns but.

Starting to go fund me for.

So how many touchdowns do you

score?

And he goes, I don't know, 1.

So then I go back and I watch

the film like, dude, you scored

three touchdowns.

It's like.

Yeah, I didn't want to take any

Thunder from my brother's

school, so it's no big deal.

No big deal.

It's.

Half this you.

Know it was really 4 but I guess

you missed one.

No, it was definitely 3.

Maybe you missed 1?

Nope, that includes

interception.

He didn't have an interception.

You missed it.

He didn't.

No.

Parker L.

Did I watch from the parking lot

with binoculars because I don't

feel welcome?

Yeah, so he had an interception.

We would love to have you there.

You should come.

It's hot outside, Michael.

It's getting cooler now.

When it cools off, maybe I'll

come to it.

OK, so we drive, we're driving a

basketball the next day and

we're talking.

And I said, hey Justice, you

actually got 3 touchdowns.

You didn't get just one.

And he's like I did, yeah.

Then you look at Patrick and go,

I scored three times, Patrick.

I scored the same time as

Patrick.

So then.

So then Patrick Hamsters?

Yeah.

You sure?

Did well my then my other son

says yeah, I'm going to post a

clip that says when you're a

better coach than your father.

That would be funny.

Something like that, and you

know what the funny part is

though, he's 100% correct.

He's a better coach.

Yeah, 'cause he's not angry.

I'm sorry.

Passionate.

No, I'm not angry or passionate

on the field.

I'm pretty.

And how is he a better coach?

I don't know, he just, he just

calls better.

You would admit that, though.

He calls better plays.

He calls better plays, you know

so.

He's a smart young man.

Yeah, so I think maybe going

into the depending upon how the

games are going, 'cause I 'cause

he has his own obligations going

into the Bucks the his his team.

But if he's available, I'm going

to say, all right, coach, go

ahead, go run it.

Let's see how he does.

Did Tampa Bay beat the Lions?

Yes, they did.

That explains why there were no

follow up posts to Ronnie's

post.

No, and then somebody got killed

in a bar in Detroit.

Oh, or at like 1 of the.

One of the sacredo bars?

No, he's in town this week.

Kind of he's in Tampa.

Right.

Well, he was going to Sarasota.

Yeah, I was like, don't go

there.

It's a retirement area.

That's where he's going.

He's going to go down to

Heritage and say hi, but they're

staying in.

They're going down to Sarasota

and say hi to Heritage, but

they're staying in Tampa.

More things to do.

Got it.

Yeah.

Yeah, so they're lovely

Aquarium.

I made a mistake of calling him

last week.

Yeah, yes.

Why is that a mistake?

Well, you have to have a lot of

free time.

The free time.

Yes, he's always loading

something in the car every time

you call, too.

He must run back and forth to

the post office all night long.

A lot of bodies.

Oh, is that what it is?

Yeah, that's what it is.

Because you can tell he's in the

shop up now.

He's loading the car.

Oh, now he's in the car.

Up.

Signal dropped.

Oh, he called back.

So.

And then Jack called and was

like, I heard Jack, thank you

for calling.

I couldn't get off the phone.

I was talking to Ronnie.

I couldn't get off the phone at

all.

Anyway, sorry, go ahead.

So then I coached the silver

team.

We won 12/6.

Some controversy at the end of

it.

Oh, who'd you hit?

It wasn't who I hit.

You called the name.

No, we were on defense or we

were on offense and they, the

team had used their second

blitz, but they didn't

technically use their second

blitz after I looked at the film

because the plague was was

deemed dead before it had

happened.

So then they blitzed again and

then they got to pick 6, but

they said the ref said no, you

used your blitzes already.

And they had announced that they

had no blitzes left prior to

that snap.

And I thought that they had used

their blitzes.

But then when I looked at the

film, I was like, oh shit, they

didn't.

So you're only allowed so many.

Blitzes.

You get 2 blitzes per half,

Yeah.

Per half.

Yeah, so I messed that up.

Why is that?

It's hard for the little kids

to.

Yeah, because.

It just winds up being run

plays, Yeah, and you wouldn't

see a lot.

Not a lot would change.

Gotcha.

And realistically, like if

you're going to blitz in like

NFL or whatever, sure, You're

not blitzing every down.

No, but you could.

Yeah, it just doesn't make sense

to.

Right.

No, no.

So so yeah, I got to talk to

that coach because I screwed

that up.

What you knew given the point

back.

No, I mean we won the game.

The outcome could have been

differently.

We could have won up time.

You have to play it again.

We could have won.

No, I'll just tell him it's

over.

It's documented.

Oh hey, we beat you.

I'm very sorry, but I screwed

up.

Yeah, I made a mistake.

Sorry, no.

Ah, and she's you made a

mistake.

Yeah, shit happens.

She'd do better.

Well, you know, and like the

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