Cigar Hustlers Podcast Episode 353: Sports, Stories, and Sassy Characters
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Yes.
Oh, this show is going to be
bananas right here.
Bananas.
What are we doing for the
Patreon, Jack?
Jack Tron always wants to know.
Oh, he.
Wants to know where's smoke in
the Arsenio Hall.
Who, who, who, who who from the
dog pound?
From the dog pound.
That was Arsenio's group, the
dog # the dog pound.
That was a little.
Before my Yeah, I was gonna say
I'm a little older than you
guys.
You know, this is Agronorsa,
isn't it?
Yeah.
Agronorson.
Argonorsa. 6 by 52 Toro.
Oh, are you weighing it with the
paper sleeve?
The giant paper sleeve?
I did OK.
What was?
It 19.2g you want to weigh
without.
No, it's OK.
Maybe see the difference?
18.1 grams.
So aye, aye aye, you know what
a.
Week, buddy.
My goodness, you have a busy
week going.
Before we get started, I have to
imagine I have to say hello to
Shirtless Mike over at Smoke
Ring 72.
Yes, you wanted to.
Get that out of the way.
When did I get out of the way so
I didn't forget?
Here's his lovely photo he made
me in a a milkshake.
Very delicious milkshake.
It was a complimentary milkshake
as well.
Yes, which I was not expecting.
No, no, your money is no good
here.
No, we didn't even get that far.
They just it just never came up
again until he just handed it to
me and then walked away.
Oh really?
Did you ask for the milkshake?
Yes I did, because last time I
was there I wanted one and I
didn't ask for one.
Gotcha.
And did you offer to pay at the
end?
No, they just, they walked away
and left me.
So maybe they think I'd I'd dine
in Dash.
Maybe.
Maybe they owe the $6 for the
milkshake.
You always got to ask before you
we'll.
See you again.
See you again.
What do I owe you for the
milkshake?
I owe you for the milkshake.
Probably say like, hey, don't
worry about it, but you know,
can't assume.
I might have done that and now I
don't remember.
It's going to be OK though.
It costed one shout out on the
on the channel.
Now they get free advertising,
right?
OK, interesting.
So you shout out.
So you did some Rd. travelling?
Yeah, so I went down to Fort
Pierce and worked my way north.
Little brass pipe.
Action yes.
Went to brass pipe, saw your
cousin, saw my cousin Mark and
Leo and Steve and the the new
amazing brass pipe bus and
friend came down and said hello.
A bunch of people came in.
So I haven't had the opportunity
to make it to that location yet,
OK.
But I heard that it's a bank.
It used to be a bank.
Man dude, I love a cigar shop.
That's that's.
Right.
So like the the walk in humidor
is used to be in office.
Yeah.
So it's that old style half wood
glass with an open top.
Nice.
So and then the lounge is in the
back once you walk past where I
guess the tellers would have
been.
And the bulletproof glass is
still there in some places.
Well, it's there.
They've cut a hunk out and made
coffee tables for the lounge.
That's cool, that's cool.
But there is still sections
there and they're turning that
into like a coffee bar.
No kidding.
Now where you can come in and
order specialty coffees.
That's pretty cool.
'Cause it's not, since the
lounge is in the back and what
used to be the bank manager's
office and part of a storage
room, I guess 'cause it's it's
bigger.
There's no smoke in the front
half of the building at all.
'Cause it's enclosed.
Right.
Do they have good ventilation in
the back?
Yes.
There were 3 smoke eaters and a
lounge, probably about the size
of this studio, that studio, and
then maybe just a little bit
bigger than that, right?
So it was a good size.
Very nice.
Drive through?
No, that would be nice.
It's not on an end.
Bam.
That would have been cool if
there was a drive through window
with the tube.
I guess they're the second
oldest JC Newman account in the
state.
Really.
They've been there for 47 years.
Well, not that location.
They used to be in a different
location, but in business.
So you can see.
Yeah, they've been in business
for 47 years.
That's so funny.
It is.
And I'm not allowed to wear a
jacket in there anymore.
Yeah, it has to stay in the car.
They're they're a short and flip
flop type place.
Then we got to get you some
Howard G Fucking crazy button.
Crazy button?
Yeah.
Oh, what's he's got that?
My wife bought me this one for
part of my birthday presents.
I wore that today and I have
another one for tomorrow.
Nice.
So.
Yeah, we got back-to-back
birthdays tomorrow.
Yes, you and that guy over
there.
Yeah, Phil.
Well, Boots when he's on the
Patriots, I don't know when
Phil's birthday, I have no idea.
Phil, when's your birthday?
Tomorrow.
Oh, yours is?
Oh, all three of us.
Wow, look at that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, amazing.
I wasn't aware.
Who knew?
Who knew I heard him.
With March or something now that
he no longer has his masks?
I didn't want to, I didn't want
to create a different day 'cause
you guys would make me Remember,
Remember it and.
Then we're gonna celebrate it.
You know what it is?
I heard.
It was March.
I think we're going with March.
Happy birthday to Phil.
Oh, you're gonna.
Go with March.
It's I didn't know.
Well, any did you get kicked in
the teeth at all?
I love a good kicked in the
teeth.
No, actually I, I did not.
Every visit was was a nice,
well, not really kicked in the
teeth, but Tony Nardone and Yaz
weren't at that shop when I got
there.
So I waited for about 45 minutes
and then I mean like I was, I
didn't get home till 9:00 that
night.
So I was sort of running out of
time.
So OK, so I I moved on, but that
that would have been the only
kick in the ish, but it doesn't
qualify.
No, no, nobody outright was, you
know, like get out.
I don't want.
You to?
Yeah.
Did you make an appointment?
Right.
I'm sorry, I've never heard of
your cigars before, right?
Do you do terms we have a
problem, right?
Those are the types.
Of no, none of those.
Those are the types of
statements you're like, no.
Kind of a nice kind of a nice
day visiting shops.
And then you got to decide if
you woke up and you chose
violence if you chose.
Violence.
Yeah, exactly.
You know.
Got to see John Converse at
Smoke Rings.
Yeah, haven't seen him in a
while because we no longer deal
with that brand here.
So it was nice to see him.
That's good.
Yeah, it's fun when you run into
another Rep somewhere that you
know that well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You give him his space, he does
his little pitch, and then they
like, why?
You mean why you sit away over
there.
You go.
Well, you know, I don't want to
interrupt.
No, no, we're we're done.
Come on over.
So, you know, and then he steps
away while I do my thing, and
then we all sort of hang out for
a little bit.
Nice.
Yeah.
Don't buy his cigars.
I stole the milkshake.
Well, I just wanted when I
walked down, he said.
You don't want these either.
And he wants to his face.
Wants too much.
There's a requirement for like a
requirement.
I believe he needs 40% of your
humidor, right?
Exactly in order for.
He just about has it there too,
so it's.
Very close.
Guess he sold them on it.
Guess he sold them on.
It, well, yeah, it was already
there.
They were they were planning an
event of some sort, yes.
But I did get more gossip for
the for the Patreon.
Yeah, yeah.
Can't mention it here.
Really.
Yes, OK, sure.
The story that we've been
talking about, I had.
I had more.
Oh, I thought for sure that it
that was going to be on the
show, but you're right, it it
belongs on Patreon for.
Sure, for sure.
Well, the the one we've been
discussing for just a couple of
weeks now on the Patreon.
Yeah, I have more information.
OK, yeah, what about the hug?
Is the hug on this one or the
hug on the Patreon?
What's the hug?
The hug, There was a hug and
there was a photo opportunity of
an individual who took care of
this hug I have.
No idea what you're talking
about.
We received it Intel from from
people.
It's a Facebook post.
How do you not remember?
That I I'm I'm drawing a blank.
Red light, Red light.
Holy shit.
Red light drawing a blank.
I have no idea what you're
talking about.
You gonna text me?
No, I'm gonna show you the
image.
I'm not gonna share it with the,
I'm not going to share it with
the other people here.
So 'cause I want you to see
this.
Yeah, it's 'cause now I'm it's
going to.
Oh, no, that's for this one.
OK.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
I thought you meant something
that that I came across when I
was out.
No, no, no.
That's part of the news.
OK.
Yeah, yeah, sure.
We really should have all this
together beforehand, but.
Well, we never.
There's pre production meetings.
I mentioned it before, but you
never show up for them.
Yeah, I'm here bright and early
today.
Baby, you are today.
Yes, you are today.
But still.
We were here at 7, though.
You didn't make that.
Yeah, you didn't make the
meeting.
Well, I was here at 7.
Phil just came in too.
So no, I was here.
I was just in the other room.
Oh, Phil kind of looks like he
just woke up.
Yeah, pretty much.
He does have his slippers on.
Yep.
I wasn't well, I wasn't planning
on coming in here so early.
And he's got the he still has
the forehead crease like the I
slept on my.
Side.
Oh, he does.
Look at that.
Yeah, right there.
Yeah.
Wow.
Good thing there's no camera.
That's the I just woke up
crease.
I get those all the time.
I'm like.
Oh, I don't even look.
Yeah, well, well, for me this
week was.
A lot.
The week or the weekend?
The week into the weekend.
Gotcha.
You know, obviously football.
Right.
Games, whatever.
I had to coach Jack's team
without the supporting offense.
Head coach Guy 'cause he was.
Oh, the one from last week, that
coach from last week that that
took over the oh, this must be
an actual adult.
Yeah, last week Jack's helped
you out.
Yeah, no, this is where for
Jack's, this is Oh.
For Jack's team, yeah.
Gotcha.
And man, we played a hell of a
good team.
A really good team, yeah.
And the other coach that I work
with, he handles, he's the other
head coach.
So he does defense, but like
come the last play of the game,
it's like we need a deep ball
and he kind of goes out there
and he's like, I'm just going to
take over.
I'm going to take over.
So I'm like, OK, I let him take,
got to let him take over.
And.
Everybody wants to take over
when you're coaching.
You know, here's The thing is, I
think that it's, it's exciting
to do.
Well, you probably make it look
so easy.
It's a ton of work.
And you know, when you when you
get kind of caught up in the
moment, it's like, yeah, Oh,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sure.
Yeah, I've got ideas.
I want to do this.
It's.
Like, yeah, and it's like for
him, I totally understand
because he's it's his show, him
and the other guy's show, right,
as far as I'm concerned when it
comes to that particular team.
So if he says, hey, I want to do
this, I'm like, yeah,
absolutely, go ahead.
You know, do it right, Game's on
the line.
We're.
Oh, it's his team, you said.
So he's the head coach?
Yeah, he's the head defensive
coach.
Oh, and then the head offense.
A head offensive coach was out
of town, so I was running the
offense.
Are you even a coach on that
team?
Yeah.
You're an assistant offensive
coach, or I've just kind of
I've.
Overall, well, it's like I kind
of gravitated into assistant
offensive coach because head
defensive coach doesn't really
like to listen to me too much.
I get you.
So I you know, we went off.
It's like so I just I.
Do you I?
Just kind of stay out of the way
at that point.
I'm like, you know, so I make
sure that everything else is
being handled as far as
scheduling the kids, as far as
practices, as far as, you know,
if anybody, I'm the one constant
that's always there.
Sure, you're the guy with the
orange slices.
I'm the guy.
Well, I bring Dum Dums.
I'm the guy with the Dum Dums.
Dum Dums.
You know, and I want to make
sure that every kid is gets the
attention that they need,
whatever they need to focus on.
Are you?
Going to say but I want to make
sure they get a dum dum.
And I want to make sure they get
a dum dum, right?
And then I want to make sure
that we continue to grow and
develop and we don't if things
get messy as far as practices, I
can consistently show up and
that they have fun.
Right, I got you.
So I try and keep all that in
order.
Do they get to pick?
I like more about the Dum Dums
because that's the part I
understand.
OK Do they get to choose a
flavor?
It's just like this is what you
get they.
Do not get to choose.
But do they try?
They're like I got Butterscotch
or I got yeah.
So normally what happens is that
has happened before in the past
and I just say, hey, listen, if
you don't like it, trade it with
somebody else.
Oh, there you go.
I don't even know why they keep
those nasty flavours.
Yeah, well, I can tell you that
there are specific kids that
love butterscotch and love and
love the root beer.
Oh, they're.
Mom for them, Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, so it works out when they
sure, but like.
I got the orange one.
Oh, I like right, But here's the
parlay is a lot of these kids
are with their siblings or they
want to give their brothers and.
Sisters, one more than one.
Yeah, some of them.
Like can I get 2 more for my
brother and my sister or
whatever?
And I'm like, absolutely.
Oh, you're not?
Yeah, we have so many
butterscotch and root beer ones
there.
But they take this, then you
got.
No, they don't play.
They don't get.
This Then you got this one kid
who's an only child and he tries
to fucking work me over every
time.
He's like.
He knows.
Can I get one more for my and
every once in a while he'll get
away with it and I have to go
out and RIP it out of his mouth.
Oh dude, we have an awesome
relationship.
Like he's a.
He closes his teeth and
lollipop.
Yeah, get the stick.
He's a pretty good teeth.
He's a cool, he's a good kid.
He's he's a little, he's a
little rough around the edges,
right?
You know, he's a little.
Maybe selling those to make a
little money on his side.
I don't.
Think you know what?
Oh, that.
'D be a.
Good.
That's the side I got to be
honest, this team, I don't think
any of them are really doing
much of side hustling.
They're.
Going to be all right.
Yeah, I got.
You.
So the coach takes over because
he believes that this like a
bomb pass will work.
Now I know that the bomb pass
will not work because of the way
the defense is set up, sure, but
I it's not my call.
Not your call, No, not your job,
said OK.
And he's, no, he doesn't want to
play.
That's on the playbook.
He's over there with a dum dum
in your mouth.
He does.
He doesn't want to use a play
that's in the playbook.
We got 21 play, 24 plays, but.
Doesn't want to use any of them.
What's your favorite flavor, by
the way?
My favorite flavor?
Cotton candy.
There's.
None in the bag.
When he gets home, he takes them
all.
No, I don't really.
I don't really.
I might have one or two on
occasion throughout the week,
but that's it.
So he sets up this play and, and
everybody's in different
positions.
The guy we're going to do this
and, and you can see that it's
like the kids are looking like
deer in headlights, like, OK,
they, they don't want to argue
with them.
Sure, they but they don't want
to say, I have no idea what's
going on, right?
So they kind of resort back to
this standard play that we
always have with them in
different positions and.
So this is his magic play.
Yeah, I can't do any of the 21.
I'm going to do the other one.
Here's what I want.
No.
Here's what I want you to do.
Yeah.
And he starts saying, I want you
to run this deep, this deep,
this deep, this deep.
And all the kids are like, OK
and like nobody.
They don't.
Do it.
Nobody knows what's going on.
Yeah, They're like, hey, you
know what, we're just going to
like they all just kind of went
back to this normal play that we
have.
Cover 2.
Cover 2.
And, and I'm fine with that too,
you know, so it's a small little
out route ball gets passed to
one of the fastest kids with the
best hands in our team.
And he catches it in the middle
of the field and he goes up the
sidelines and he kind of gets
pushed at the end and he leans
in and he makes a touchdown.
And it was amazing.
It was absolutely a very
controversial call.
He may or may not have stepped
out of bounds.
Resh may or may or not seen that
right.
You're not allowed to dive.
But he didn't dive.
He was just leaning forward
because he was being shoved, you
know, like.
All of this, all these things
could have happened.
So it's like a Patriot Tom Brady
thing going.
On it was amazing.
May or may not have been
deflated, right?
Here's what's crazy is the first
game.
First game?
This is the first game of the
season.
OK?
Oh, you don't know what to
expect from each individual kid
because you never know how
they're going to react during
game time.
That's different.
Yeah.
So if you can get, if you can
squeak out that win, then you
can at least know what you have
to focus on each individual kid
going into practice.
Right now it begins.
Right now, if you don't win that
game, it's such a short season
that you might not get a buy
into the postseason in the
playoffs, and then at that point
you're going to have to play
three games consecutively.
If you go all the way to
championship.
I don't care who you are.
These kids are gassed.
Especially if it's really hot,
you know, whatever.
So it was a good win.
Justice's team had a buy, but I
still have to coach the Silver
team and Patriots, right with
Jax, and we got destroyed.
We were playing a team that
doesn't belong in Silver.
Oh, they should have moved up.
I knew it was going to happen
and I'm like, look, you need to
focus on things when you work on
development.
Is that a purposely done thing
by the coach just so they can?
Win.
Well, here's what I've learned
about people, Michael.
Here's what I've learned about
people.
Yes, Michael.
There are a lot of people that
are very successful in life and
what and but what they have done
is I totally disagree with, OK,
their overall principles are
hey, I'm going to be very nice
to you.
Sure.
And then I'm going to bend the
rules.
And then I'm looking to say, oh,
no, but that's that's not what
we're doing where it's blatant
as to what you're doing.
Sure, right.
And it used to upset me, but now
I'm like, OK, that's fine.
You know, if you want to you
want to work the system, go
right ahead.
I'm going to focus on developing
these kids and they're going to
experience this heartache and
some of them are going to cry
and I'm going to teach them how
to work through it.
All right, so I've seen that
principle like that core
individual echo in all aspects
of my life.
So you just learn how to handle
it and deal with it because you
know that that lie that they're
living will eventually catch up
to them in one facet or the
other of their life.
So I guess that's where I find
my peace with it, you know?
So does that answer my question?
What was your question?
There's a guy purposely had the
team silver so he can win more
than move him up to gold and.
OK All right, Yeah.
Did you apologize to the Blitz
team that you.
I didn't.
See them?
Ah gotcha, I didn't see them but
if I see them this Friday I will
100% say hey man I messed that
up sorry.
It's kind of too late now.
I mean, you didn't see them, so
it's kind of over with.
No, you don't think so?
I can still I mean well.
Still own your mistake.
Why?
Sure, but I mean the coach might
like you what you did.
What?
When, Where?
He might not.
Oh, he'll remember he lost the
game.
You you don't forget the games
that you forget the games that
you win.
Oh, OK.
More than a lot.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Especially something like that
because he may he may feel
slighted.
Right.
Yeah, he definitely remembers
that.
Just just got a different color.
Than it is maybe slightly
different it is and how?
A year ago you got a Habano.
I look like I got a they.
Came out of the same.
They came out of the same box
too.
Yeah, I got a Connecticut and
you got Habano over there.
And then Buck Silver, they had
one game that I couldn't coach,
so 'cause I was going on the
same time as the Pats and they
lost that game, but it was
close.
And then I had.
So if you weren't there, was
Jack's there or he wasn't there
either.
No, he was with me coaching.
Right.
That's what I think he was doing
the other team.
So wait, wait, wait.
You've picked up more teams.
I coached four teams.
Oh my Lord.
I coached four teams.
I know.
This is yeah, This is why you
have no time.
Yeah, it's insane.
I coach four teams.
I scrimmage two of them together
at the same time.
Silver and gold age bracket,
Silver and gold age bracket,
right.
And then when, when game day
comes, I mean, I didn't leave.
I got there at 5:00.
I didn't leave till close to 10.
Wow.
I remember when you were just a
scoreboard guy.
This has been a long run.
That was basketball.
He was just scoreboard of
basketball.
But that was when he was first
getting the coach.
Remember he was assistant just
helping out for a couple games.
Yeah, well, dude, you know what?
Here's my problem is that my
first friend invites me and says
hey, come coach with me.
And I'm like, you don't want to
do that.
You don't want to do that.
No, come on, it'll be fun.
I'm like, no, I know.
There's no, it's not fun for me.
It is a mission.
I.
I I actually it's one of the I
it's the hardest.
Thing I do it's like it requires
so much work and effort, but
it's definitely the most
rewarding thing that I do as
well.
So but he's like why come on
Just coach says they're little
kids are like, look man, I don't
do anything 50% right I'm I'm
the psychopath that's going to
record every game.
I'm going to analyze the
mistakes.
I'm going to look at what each
individual kid needs to focus
on.
It's going to consume me on a
daily basis right, like anything
else that I do so you don't want
to do that.
It's like, no, come on, just
there's nobody else.
Come coach with me.
He unleashed the beast.
Yeah, now he's off doing his own
thing and I'm running four
teams.
Maybe that was his out.
Maybe he was like, man, I got to
get out of this coaching thing.
I got to find somebody, find
some guy who's obsessive.
I'm.
Like thanks so much bro.
You guys wave as you pass in the
hall.
I buy, I buy new flags.
It's the most expensive thing I
do as far as tools and all
things and you know, I actually
invested stock in Dum Dums.
It just made.
Sun.
It just made Sun.
Yeah.
You bought into the company.
Yeah, I'm like, hey, I'd like to
become a shareholder.
Send them a new box every two
days.
Like if you could just.
Just send me a bag.
I need a.
You got to bulk buy that.
No, these guys need more Dum
Dums than one bag.
Halloween's going.
I'm maybe you can, you know, buy
some stock the bags.
That doesn't even make any sense
because we've already invested
in Big M and Ms. and Skittles
and Kit Kats for Justice's
birthday party, which happened
on Saturday, and we have
leftovers.
But they're used to dumb.
Dumb.
Yeah, Don't give them the other
stuff.
They're gonna look at you
sideways.
Yeah, but these are Coach.
What the hell is this?
So they're dumb dumps.
Ohh no, I'm talking I got.
A brother and sister over here
wait on their dumb dumb we.
Don't like this church and what
you're saying now?
Yeah, no, I'm just talking about
Halloween in general.
Oh, no, yeah, I wouldn't talk
about giving away Halloween.
I was talking about you can bulk
buy now because they're out,
right?
Yeah, the last day before
Halloween, right?
Yeah.
Wait, wait till the 30.
Percent off, right?
Yeah, they're always at Sam's.
And just take them off.
Yeah, but they'll be cheaper.
They take like targeting Walmart
70% off right before the holiday
or the day after.
How much $2.00?
15 they're making offers.
This is 1700.
I'll buy the whole store.
Right, I'll buy every dum.
I have a gun.
I have $8 here.
I want all of the Dum Dums.
I need this.
So then we had basketball games
for Jackson Justice and.
Football was Friday.
Yeah, basketball was Saturday.
Morning.
Oh, Lord.
And then hockey on Saturday
afternoon.
So justice played.
Lacrosse on Sunday.
Justice played fantastic in
basketball.
Oh good, the ref was horrible.
Horrible.
You know, and it's like.
So he's dead now?
She, it's a she.
She's dead now.
And you know it, you know?
No, let's not get in that
argument.
It's not like a ref rigs a game
for one or the other to be in
not.
On purpose, no.
They get emotional though.
You know so.
Especially a woman.
So they were easy, so they
didn't.
Want to give that argument?
So they were multiple.
Are you afraid?
So they're, you know what?
One day we're going to hit it
really big and they're going to
come back and look at all of the
shit that we said.
Oh.
You guys are sexist.
That's right.
Sexist, racist, especially you
2, Especially you 2 and then.
Oh yeah, Mr. Anderson.
And I'm, I'm going to come under
fire and I'm like, I don't know
what to tell you, man.
That is what it is.
But it's definitely going to
happen.
Did you say that?
Am I probably?
Said they were emotional.
Let's say they were emotional.
We are successful, but those two
are racist.
One's up with fall big and one's
are racist.
I don't know what to tell you.
So there were blatant calls that
went to the other the opposing
team and the crowd was getting
upset, the crowd.
Was the crowd behind you?
It was noticeable.
It was.
It was obvious.
It was quite apparent.
Was your son on the other team?
I don't know.
I don't know if she has a thing
for the coach.
I don't know if she, you know,
like it could be and.
We're the ones that say the bad
things.
I mean you.
Just said she was having sex
with the coach.
No, I didn't say.
I didn't say that.
You did not, obviously, but you
hinted you.
Hinted it that way it's look
it's possible if you have a a
friendship with somebody that
you might put things that way
it's.
Possible, I guess.
Yeah, sure.
I'm glad he curveballed that
way.
Hypothetically speaking, listen,
I'm you know, I'm running for
governor soon.
It's just a matter of time, so.
I did not say she's banging the
coach.
I didn't say.
That so one of the moms is
recording and she's getting
upset because her kids getting
fouled and it's not not getting
cold and.
She has the video footage.
Whoa.
And injury is apparent in this
league.
So.
So this older lady gets up in
this other mom's face and rips
the phone out of her fucking
hand.
Oh.
Yeah, some excitement.
Do you?
Have to do that and then things
escalate.
I actually have it.
Oh I took video.
This is perfect.
I record every game, I just so
happened to have the.
Pixelate the faces.
I don't think I'm going to put
it up.
Over the camera goes right.
I don't think you hear a
scuffle.
And Brittany goes, what are you
doing?
Are you getting this?
He's making a layup.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm getting it.
I'm getting it.
So why did she steal the kid?
Wait, wait.
So what team was the old lady?
I I think the other team, the
other team I would assume, yeah.
OK, why did she take the phone?
She just lost her fucking mind
dude.
Sit the fuck down.
Yeah, she's like human, I can't
hear it.
Like I'm standing in the
distance, but she makes a
comment of something like you've
been complaining the whole game
or whatever.
Something right of that
magnitude, I would assume.
Right.
And uproar kind of instills over
here and I'm like, OK, stay
back.
Like let's you know, 'cause I
don't, I can tell you exactly
what happened now because I went
back and watched the film, sure,
but I don't know what's going on
in that, in that scenario.
Right, right.
You don't know what?
Happened and I'm not about to
isolate the situation because
they're not my priority.
My kids are my priority.
Sure, right.
So if if it becomes a problem
where they are a threat, then
yeah, I'm intervening, but at
this moment I'm not.
Right, it's just too ladies
fighting in the science.
Yeah.
And then it's like a couple
other.
Dads, not your wife.
So you're like everything,
Everybody I have is correct.
Mine are OK right right now.
Little people in this heads like
don't choose violence right now,
just wait.
The Devil and the Angel in the
show.
You have no idea how hard it is
so for me to walk it back like
I'm saying, everybody stay calm.
Everybody's saying I'm saying it
for me.
I'm not saying it for anybody
else.
Yeah, that's right.
I'm not saying it really.
Just use this right now.
I'm like.
Stay back everybody.
Stay back.
Let them let it sort out,
because if it gets crazy, you
know I will.
Neutralize.
I will neutralize this.
Everybody's down.
You took out everybody like, I
don't know, I don't.
Know, but it's over.
Know what came over me?
It's over green and right.
So that.
Blacked out, I don't know what.
Happened so the owner of the
league comes over and he calls
the game.
Oh, off the fight.
Yeah.
How big a fight are we talking?
About it wasn't big enough to
call the game now in my opinion,
I'm like at that time I'm
thinking, OK, maybe it was a
good call, but then I'm looking
at it, I'm like, wait a second,
like if you don't know what the
problem is and you have two
people like let's there are two
people fighting.
Right, two grown adults.
Right, two grown adults.
I don't know who's to blame
'cause I'm just walking over
there.
I'm the league person.
I'm kicking them out.
Yeah, and you're banned, right?
Yeah, just ask him to leave.
That's going to be the next
question.
Sure.
Right.
So yeah, I, I tell the security,
get the get them out of here
'cause there's security there,
get them out they're going home,
right, Right.
They're done.
If your kid is supposed to be
with you and they don't have
another form of transportation,
take them go.
It's over for both of you.
You guys don't act that way.
It's absurd.
It's.
Usually in their league rules,
yeah.
Yeah, I don't think that you
call the game no.
You know you can stop it for a
SEC.
Yeah, it's not fair to the kids.
Well.
You have to stop it because
nobody's everybody's watching a
fight.
So.
So the game ends abruptly, Rev
gets the fuck out of dodge.
She's oh.
They're going to catch me,
right?
Right, she tells the coach.
I'll see you later at the at the
hotel.
She's done.
She's done.
She's early.
Check him.
The older lady who snatched the
phone and got on the face, she's
out of here.
Right.
She's embarrassed, so she's
she's got to get No, she knows.
I mean, she fucked up.
Sure she was extremely.
She lost her cool.
She was very wrong.
Right now, the real question is
going to be come next weekend.
Is she back in the stands?
Well, TuneIn.
Right, because if she's back in
the stands, I personally have a
problem with that.
Right.
Yeah.
Because what you're here's what
you're just green lit me for me
getting physical with anybody I
want on in the in the area and
being welcomed back on Saturday.
Yes, like I can.
I promise you that's.
Good for you.
This is good for our show.
All right, it's good for you.
And for the show, like if
somebody's an ass and I want to
if I'd feel like I you.
Want to lay hands on?
Them I need the person to
correct them.
Whatever, you know, like I'm,
you guys are comfortable with
that and it's OK for me to come
back the next week.
How old was she?
Was she like a grandmother or.
Like she was an abuela, Yeah.
OK, well then she could not be
bad.
Oh, she was Spanish too.
I think she was speaking, I
don't know.
He said Abuelo.
Said Abuelo.
I'm calling her Abuela.
She's Spanish.
I have a tendency to hot Latin
blood.
I mean, snatch the phone.
Bam did.
She throw it?
No.
Oh, she didn't commit.
Yeah, she didn't fucking commit.
Yeah, on the side of the
commitment.
It was crazy.
Did the lady get her phone back?
She got her phone back.
I think she called the police.
Oh, well, she was assaulted.
It's called assault.
Oh, that's why the one ran.
She's got the hell out.
That's why the one.
Ran, but you can't walk into
that place without scanning your
ID, so it's not.
Oh yeah?
Well, if it has a photo, but if
they.
Have to have a photo ID.
To scan it, but when you scan
it, does it keep your photo or
your name?
Wait, we should not talk about
this on the show anymore 'cause
he said he has video and he is
like now a witness I.
Don't mind sharing the video?
Now we're going to get, we're
going to get her first subpoena.
If somebody said, hey, we want
to see your video footage, like,
absolutely.
Certainly call 504.
I have no problem.
You know what I haven't.
But Justin Andrews?
Like, you know what?
That's really kind of funny is
like that's another thing that's
wrong with this whole with our
culture, right?
Is like, if somebody is wrong,
right, Nobody addresses it,
right?
They're like, Oh well, you know?
Yeah, and this is definitely a
platform to address it because
this is for kids.
Yeah, nobody addresses it.
They just let it.
Oh, there's a scuffle.
Oh, well, you know, she was
wrong.
Like, wait, who was wrong?
Because I could show you exactly
who was wrong on the video.
The person that got up.
And I don't give a shit what the
other person said.
I don't care.
You chose to get physical,
right?
At that point, all bets are off,
man.
You're out of line.
You crossed that line you're
responsible so like and if you
don't stick up for the other
person at that point, you're
wrong too sure you know it's
just that simple so Jax so Jax
then played his game he.
Covered the SO.
Good job I was.
Waiting.
Yeah, with his Brulee torch over
there.
So Jack's played his game.
They played very well.
He he covered the biggest kid in
in the court who's got a awesome
shot and he he got him
discouraged, which means he did
his job, but nobody died.
We went home.
But before as we're going to
leave, I'm like, all right,
listen, you guys stay by me and
we go we we're getting right.
We're.
Getting right now.
Don't talk to.
Any of willows, Yeah.
Well, you know what?
You know, it's not even at that
point, you're not even worried
about the two people that had
the incident.
You're worried about everything
else escalating.
Sure, right, right.
And then who has the gun in the
car and then who's being shot at
right at a 3rd, 4th grade
basketball game 'cause it
happens.
Oh, it happens all the time.
People lose their minds.
Sure.
And I'll show you.
I'm like.
OK, I got a gun on a gun.
Well, do me a favor, don't show
me because I had nothing to do
with it, you know.
So objective is get everybody
out, go home, we'll come back in
a couple of hours is.
There a metal detector when you.
Go in.
Yeah, there is.
That's why bag search.
Yep, that's why the most
dangerous place parking lot is
the parking lot.
Sure.
So 'cause that's where they had
to go take it back to before
they went through the metal
detector, right?
Yeah, like all right, no
problem.
I'll wait for her to come out.
Yeah, I'll get her out.
I'll get her outside and dump.
It right whatever.
Teacher snatched my phone.
No, she went out fast.
Yeah, normally it's the other
way around, right?
Normally it's if a person is
physical, if the person who
initiates the physicality, I
would assume that that would be
the person that would take it
the next step further, right?
Or at least somebody with them
would take it the next.
Step 'cause they're already
escalated.
Like, oh, you threatened to.
Oh, no, you know, like that's
it, right?
So, and it all happened so fast.
You don't know who's to blame it
originally, right?
I like Tyree Kill.
Should have been nicer.
Should have been, should have
been.
Same with the cops though,
right?
They should have been nicer.
Too nicer, too.
It's on the way to the game, for
God's sakes.
So then we had Jack Justice's,
It was Justice's birthday week
and or whatever, and we went to
Urban Air.
Nice trampoline.
Yeah, the kids had a great time.
We had a fucking terrible time
with the with the customer
experience really, it was so
bad.
Yeah.
It was so bad we, you know, you
opt in for this private room.
Well the private room the ACS
broke so it's hot as shit.
Right.
They they have like cool LED
lights.
They weren't working.
Oh.
The extra for this room, yeah.
Did you get your money back for
the room?
Let me tell you the whole.
Story.
Sorry, I'm working ahead.
And let me know if I don't
answer that and I'll bring it
up.
OK?
The the the young girl who was
our party host or whatever, you
could tell she did not want to
fucking be there at all.
Teenager with an attitude.
Yeah, you know, and like just
looked.
Slobbingly snapping gum shirt
tails out.
You know, and I tried to have
several.
Comments make up a smear.
We didn't get utensils for a
cake, you know, with her hands.
Oh, yeah, The kids.
Yeah.
Oh well, yeah, one of those
nights at the round table.
Places no, these kids, but
they're they're not waiting for
her to come back again with the
forks.
They're like, this is it's too
late now, right?
This isn't the first time you've
been here.
Though no, that we weren't there
last year and last year was a
better experience, right?
New owners have gone downhill.
Right before she handed out the
cake.
She goes like this.
And she's.
Picking her teeth.
With her finger.
With her finger and.
Then she handles the cake.
Yep.
Did you excuse me?
I have Purell.
I didn't see that.
Oh, who saw your wife?
Uncle Greg saw that, he told me.
He told me the next day.
Did he?
So did he?
Did he eat cake?
He told you the next day.
Yeah, I'm like, why didn't you
say something?
Yeah, my super germaphobe,
right?
So, I mean, dear God, what?
I didn't tell you, 'cause you
were like, don't really touch
your cake.
So, so you got the, so you get
this private room for two hours,
4:30 to 6:30, right, Right.
Brittany comes up to me at 6:10
and she goes, we were just
pushed out of the room.
What I'm like, wait 610?
I'm like it's 20 minutes.
I'm like, we were pushed out of
the room.
She's like, yeah, she's she's
already mopping and she's
setting up for the next party.
It started at 6:30.
So I walk up and I go, excuse
me, I'm sorry.
I bought this room for two
hours.
Why are we pushed out of here
already?
I was just, I'm like, no, you're
not just cleaning.
You've mopped and you've taken
all of our stuff and removed it
from this room.
You're not just prepping like
you already have everything out
for the next party.
The plate don't set up.
We're ready to go.
Like, I know they booked it at
6:30, they back-to-back booked
it.
I'm like, how is that OK?
And she's like, I'm sorry.
I'm like, you know what?
I.
Don't know and you picked your
teeth.
Like.
He didn't know that.
No, she just always say that now
going forward.
No, but you know what she tried
to do is she tried to light the
sparkler candles with one of
those regular BIC lighters, Yes.
And I'm like, listen.
Was it a hustler?
Big letter?
These work amazing.
Kind of like that, right?
And I'm like, look, that's not
going to work.
I'll go get a torch lighter.
And she keeps trying to light
it.
I'm like, listen.
Just let her light herself on
fire.
You're going to light one and
not be able to light the others,
and not only that, you're going
to burn your hand.
Let her do it.
She deserves it.
Yeah, let her burn.
Herself and she continued.
I said stop, you need to stop.
Stop.
I'm going to fix the problem.
Stop.
She's Spanish too, no?
OK.
Oh wow.
Listen to.
You I just maybe use everything
as Spanish people for the
weekend.
You're so upset about the
Abuelo.
We smoke cigars.
Don't hit the Spanish people.
I.
Don't first of all it's it's
abuela and I don't even know.
I just I just use the reference
of abuela.
I don't know if she was Spanish
or not.
Oh, I thought you said she was.
No.
Oh.
You just assume.
I did assume because he said
abuela.
Yeah, well, yeah, you guys both
erupted.
Both erupted.
I go, oh, here we.
Go.
You just flexing, throwing out
Spanish words?
Yeah.
Oh, OK, gotcha.
So I'm like, you know, it's just
it's going.
To have you're going to be
Spanglish in the rest.
He did that before he came here.
So I said, you know, you know
what, just just bring me a
manager so I can speak to
somebody because.
I'm surprised it took this long
for you to even ask that.
I am the manager, Sir.
Because this is this is like our
experience has been, our
experience has been really bad
this time around.
So.
You said that to them?
Oh, you told her that?
Or the manager.
So I, no, I said it to her.
I sat.
So I sat outside out front of
the private area because there's
other tables and I waited about
20 minutes for a manager to come
up.
They had to call him, he was at
home, he's playing video games
and his other teenager walked
out, said manager on his year
old manager.
And this guy?
My name Bobby, What do you mean?
This guy, this guy is like, oh,
you know, So what happened?
I explained everything to him.
Let's say there's no air.
The girl picked her teeth.
Yeah, there's no The lights
don't work.
She can't even light a fucking
candle.
She can't light a candle.
We got kicked out 20 minutes
early.
Oh, she would have been in here.
And I and I flat out said, I got
to be honest, we did the same
birthday party last year and the
customer service has really
deteriorated over a years time.
And he's like, well, I'm really
sorry to hear that, Sir.
You know, she's one of our best
party.
Well, she must have had a bad
night last night or even give
her the cocaine before the
party.
She's, she's every bit of 16
years old.
I mean, she's.
Well, she's the best though.
No, she loves children.
Like so you could tell that this
guy's I'm like, OK, so this is
where.
Trying to bat for.
Her like, so this is here we go
wow.
Instead of just saying wow, you
know what, you're right.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry that you had a
terrible experience.
What can I do to make it up to
you?
Or whatever he's like and, you
know, did.
He say that what can I do to
make it up to?
You, well, he goes, hey, how
about we do this?
How about I take $100 off the
party and I get you tickets for
ultimate experience again for
you and your family.
And I said, and he goes, but
most people don't like to take
the $100 off.
What?
Why not?
How about you take?
Is.
That is that a significant
amount, I don't know what this
cost.
You don't need to say what it
cost, but is that a significant
discount or is that?
Not really.
OK, so.
Yeah, this should be free.
So it had no AC, no lights,
right?
Not even a real host.
Right.
So I'm like, OK.
He said most people don't take
the discount.
Yeah, at so at this point.
Not most people, Sir.
So.
So at this point, I'm just like
I'm.
I'm already done, right?
I'm pissed off.
Then I had to wait.
Then you came.
I could tell that you're full of
shit.
I'm like, OK, take, yeah, fine,
take the money off.
And I said you don't have to
bother with tickets because
we're not coming.
We're not coming back ever
again.
What is the ultimate experience?
It's just access to all the
things was which we had.
No, but it's for next time.
Yeah, he's not going next time.
No, no, I understand you're not
going back.
I'm just curious what the
ultimate experience was.
It's the same thing that we had
done.
It's access to everything that's
in there.
So there, there's levels of
there, yeah.
There's like there's like the
so, so experience, Yeah.
Well, you can do maybe happy
experience.
Well, you can do like just the
trampolines, or you can do rock
climbing as well.
Oh.
OK, that's what I didn't know
they had other things Bumper.
Cars as well, of course.
I want to cover everything,
Sure.
I don't want a kid to go up to
something like, oh, you're not
allowed.
Yeah.
Oh, I'm sorry.
So you have the blue wrist?
Yeah.
You cannot get it.
You're not qualified.
But guess what?
None of the employees checked
anyways.
Yeah, they didn't check.
They didn't care.
They don't care.
Yeah.
And so he goes.
Look, I really wanted to take
the tickets.
I really wanted to consider
coming back.
I said I saw.
What they tell me I have to.
Do so I said fine, whatever
again I'm I'm in the same
scenario where I'm like, I just
want to move on from this now
right He said all right come
with me.
So we go to the front desk to go
square up and he says OK I.
Need your credit card, Sir?
And he says, OK, so listen, I'm
going to take the $100 off.
And you know what?
I'm even going to remove the
extra chicken that you bought or
chicken tenders or something
like that.
I'm like, OK.
And he's like, do you want to
leave a tip?
You don't have to leave a tip if
you don't want to.
Leave a tip for the girl that
you didn't like.
I'm definitely not going to
leave the.
Tip.
I love the tip.
Ah, you know, I give her a
chicken finger.
I'm not I'm.
Not I know, I know how you
feeling.
She's a kid.
Yeah, I know.
How you feeling?
And you know what?
I don't really blame her
entirely for the for the all the
errors that have occurred.
Sure.
No, it's just her.
Attitude.
It's improper training.
It's the fact that no one's
paying attention to her and
cultivating a good, you know,
overall experience for an
employee level.
Like a lot of those employees,
they did not look happy.
That's not the employee's fault.
You really think there's a
training program at this?
Of course, there's got to be
something.
Yeah, for the so, so happy
experience.
I don't think maybe there's a
video they watch, maybe like a
Chuck E Cheese video.
Yeah, Yeah, we sold this from
Chuck E Cheese.
Just pretend there's no rent.
So I give her the tip and he
goes, OK, I removed it and here
you go.
So I just pay right and I didn't
get my ultimate tickets right
and I'm like, whatever.
Is that because you decline them
or he just forgot?
I don't know.
I don't care.
He just let he gave them the
chicken instead.
I don't care, I don't care.
Even swap for the chicken, so.
Later on, so he's, he's trying
to talk me up because we stayed
till like 9:00 because justice
had to do other things.
And I, you know, me being is it?
An unlimited time once you get
into this place.
I bought the unlimited.
Oh, there's unlimited.
Yeah, there's just the room you
only get for the My children are
old.
I don't go to these places.
I bought the unlimited for all
the kids.
So you can stay till closing.
Yeah, so ick.
So.
So the guy's talked.
He's trying to talk to me a
couple times.
I'm like, OK, go away.
Thank you.
I'm going to kill you.
We're done here, you know, like
I'm done with you.
I've been managing, I've been,
I've been watching my kids and,
you know, just please so.
I'm very tired.
There's no air in here.
So we go to leave, close the.
Chicken was cold to be honest.
So we go to leave close at 9:00.
No one ever went in that party
room.
Oh, nobody showed up.
She set it up for the next day.
She.
Set it up for the next.
Fucking day.
Did you bring that to us?
Did you?
No, no.
So I went home and I had to put
a one start Google review and.
I you won, yelped them.
I I wrote a list of all the
things that went wrong and I
said best try your chances at
planet obstacle or rebounders.
Do not.
Oh, not happy apparently.
And my name's on it.
Sure.
Why?
Hang on.
My phone over.
Or he's not too.
What are they going to do?
Yeah.
What are you going to do?
You're a large angry man.
What are they going to do?
It was really a horrible
experience.
We didn't lie well, it was a
horrible experience for the
adults.
The kids didn't.
They could care less.
When did the Yeah, well, the
kids ain't paying.
Yeah, right.
When did the party host Hostess
leave?
She's.
Probably gone right up to set up
that room.
So that's what I mean, yeah.
She had to say, yeah.
So that's why she didn't.
Yeah.
She was like, I'm getting out
there 630, Yeah.
I got to go, right, Right.
I got to go do nothing.
I got a date later.
I'm going to get out of here,
right?
I got to get the edge off this,
this bad mood I have.
Yeah.
Then we did Korean K Pot for hot
Pot for Justice, 'cause that's
his restaurant.
That's nice.
The next day.
The expensive place where you
cook your own food.
Yeah, pretty much.
That's the one he likes so he
could cook his own noodles.
You've got him ramen at home.
I love it too cause like with
Teddy, you know she's the best.
Sure.
She don't eat.
That was the problem last time
you went.
There she don't eat, I said.
Listen.
They were going to.
Did you have a discussion?
They charge you again for her.
They charge you again for her
'cause that was the problem
last.
Time I said listen, she's not
going to eat.
Like OK, well we won't charge.
I'm like, last time I came in,
she got a slice of watermelon
and I paid for.
The whole I paid $75, twenty 995
right now.
Saying this and she goes, oh, I
love watermelon.
I'm going to.
I'm getting more watermelon
child me.
Too.
We have to charge you now, Sir.
I'm like OK.
Oh, we charge you now because
she eat a lot of wine.
No, she's really 2.
She's only two.
She's 2.
Daddy, I'm fine, damn it.
Shut up.
That's the only kid you can't
get away with that, I said, hey,
listen, you're 3.
She's like you told me this
whole time I was 4.
My life is a lie.
My whole life is a lie.
I can't believe this Bubbles
killed.
That's that's Teddy.
So then so then I'm like, OK,
well, you know, whatever.
If you want to charge her for
the one piece of watermelon,
then it has to be the buffet.
Whatever the.
Whole buffet brace.
I'm just, you know, I'm getting,
I'm getting the evil eye, like,
hey, stop it.
You're being a Dick.
I'm like, OK, bring us a block.
Bag next time you're like load
that.
Fuck up you get in your water
bro.
So you know then they and so
then you can't order white rice.
The white rice isn't on the
buffet if you want it in
separate.
Really.
Yeah.
So she so the server says, do
you, does anybody want white
rice?
And Jessica goes, I'll take
white rice.
And Teddy goes, I love white
rice.
Oh, another 2995 S up.
Charge a little girl.
So then everybody starts
laughing at the table and I go,
you know what, I'll pay, Bring
her the white rice.
I promise you she doesn't need
it.
And sure as shit she didn't need
it.
He touches it and she goes, I
don't like this.
Like I fucking know.
Because they called it white.
You think so?
Well, it sounds much better than
the fried rice.
You should have called it candy
rice.
Rice is way better.
Sounds healthier.
Candy Rice, Yeah.
It's candy rice, some butter and
some egg in there.
Fried rice that.
Sounds good actually.
So yeah, so that was my.
So you to get a loan on Friday
before you went out of these
places, right, You said to kid
weekend.
So I refied on the House, right?
It's worth more now it's got a
roof.
You know, it's a good time when
all the kids cry at the end
because they have to go to
school the next day.
They're like, oh, we had so much
fun, like, all right.
And Teddy put herself to bed.
She was, she was exhausted, you
know?
I was so full from all the
watermelon I was.
Just going to go, just going to
go to bed.
I got to.
Go bed, night, night.
So yeah, So what do we got on
the news after 46 minutes of me
telling you my lifestyle?
Well, I had a birthday weekend,
but that's OK.
We don't even talk about
anything.
What did you do?
No, no, wait 45 minutes.
Let him.
Do let him.
Do Phil's we have to release the
Camacho hosting thing this week
too?
As an add on or a separate.
Just a separate episode sometime
later on in the week.
Yeah, we do, because we've had
it for a long.
Yeah, we've had it for.
Almost.
Why has he been asking?
Mike Wasp asked about it.
Yeah.
Oh, actually.
So we should not even in it.
We got to release it.
It's a great interview.
It is.
It is a good interview.
So how was your birthday
weekend?
I'm trying to think where I put
it.
I still have it.
It's still there.
We went to SeaWorld on Sunday, I
got a manicure on Saturday, and
then we went to SeaWorld on
Sunday.
You got a manicure?
Yeah.
I wanted the hands out your
feet, right?
No, no, that pedicure.
No, the lady was just going to
do the feeding bike.
Oh yeah, you got the shiny
paint.
I got the shiny paint, yeah
cuticles real nice and cleaned
up and she did the hand massage.
I'm getting arthritis.
I think my hands always hurt so
I really wanted to go for the
hand massage so they haven't
hurt in two days so.
OK.
It was nice.
It's a lady that's done Adrian's
nails ever since she's moved
here, just started going back
there.
She has her own little place.
So it's just me and Adrian in
there with the lady.
OK, Yeah, SeaWorld was a lot of
fun.
They haven't been there in
years.
They have a lot of rides now.
Did you ride the coasters as?
Well, yeah.
Well, you know, they've been
beaten down with the whole
animal thing.
Right.
Yeah.
Oh, well, the only show we saw
was the orca show.
It's mostly movie, Yeah, but the
whales do the jump around.
Stuff they still do.
The orcas are still there.
Yeah, but nobody gets in the
water.
Well, I mean.
They've killed the faithful
people and all of the.
Connor noticed Connor and his
girlfriend was.
They have rebreathers on their
belt, so if they get pull, pull,
Yeah, they've got they can put
the little thing on their face
and breathe.
Well, it's funny how they now do
that, right?
Yeah.
Now they thought.
Now they thought it.
We're going to jump in the
water.
We'll have no, no, no security,
no backup here.
No backup things or nothing
here.
Don't know.
I mean, you still hear the wet
sage, but they're not.
Good.
I got news for you.
That's usually how things go.
I mean, sure, if you look at
9/11 all of a sudden now we have
no access to to the flight deck,
right?
Right, unless you're like the
stewardess.
There's like 1 stewardess.
Well, the pilot has to open it
from the inside.
And then they guard the front
if.
Something, yeah, they put the,
they put the card.
Little thing up.
Yeah, little thing up.
Yeah, they weren't doing that
before 911.
Man, that's horrible.
A new thing.
You got to look at everybody in
the room, be like, all right,
who's it going to be?
I do that one.
I get on a plane all the time.
Who's going to be the first one
down?
So that way they make a new
rule, right?
I like, I like to find the Air
Marshall and I like to see who
is who we got to keep your eye
on.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I like to go to sleep.
Yeah, I know.
It's usually the guy on the
plane that's fit the air
Marshall.
Most of the time you can usually
find the bulge where his gun is.
Just he's uncomfortable.
He's uncomfortable in the seat
and with the aisle if if he's
right-handed.
It's easy to spot when he's on
the left hand side of the plane,
which most people are
right-handed.
So.
So there's air Marshalls on
every plane pretty much, Yeah.
Really.
Yeah.
That's fascinating.
I know that.
A lot of money, a lot of money.
All right.
That was it, just the 0?
Yeah.
Did you see the Otter show?
No, we only did the Orca show.
And then we did we did all the
all the rides except for there
was one that was a really.
Oh, the the new one in the
Arctic.
That one had a long line and I
got a headache.
From which one was it?
Oh, probably the Penguin 1.
The motion sickness.
No, no, they, they don't have
that anymore.
Oh, they don't have that?
Nope.
They do have a new Penguin thing
where you're walking in the
Penguin.
I was closer to a Penguin than I
am to you.
Oh wow, that was kind of neat.
There is one other thing that
went down.
Sure.
What is?
It So there was a Broncos Bucks
game a.
Home game.
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
And I couldn't go, obviously,
because it was Justin's
birthday.
Oh, OK.
So I'm racking my brain as to
I'm like, man, who can I?
Who can I give these tickets to?
Because I don't like giving it
the Broncos guys, right?
Yeah.
You know.
Those are sacred seats.
And if and if I'm going to sell
them, I'm, I'm, if you're a
Broncos person and you really
want my seats, you're going to
pay a premium.
So I'm not giving them away.
OK.
So I'm like, OK, who can I, who
can I give these tickets to?
Who can I give them to that will
have a great experience that's
never had that kind of
experience before?
And then, like, it clicked in my
brain, I said, shit, Ronnie's in
town, right?
So I call him.
I'm like, hey, what do you got
planned for today?
He's like, Oh yeah, we got to do
a thing later.
Birthday party or something.
I'm like, I want to give you my
tickets.
I want you to take Ally and baby
Gray to the the Bucs game.
Wear your seats in front row.
It's going to be a great
experience for you.
It's hot.
Sure.
That you, you know, like, I
don't care.
Hydrate.
Yeah.
But on sunscreen.
Yeah, I don't care if you save
the whole game, whatever, just
go let her have that experience,
whatever.
So he went and he did some posts
and stuff and.
He tagged me in the one on
Instagram.
Yeah, You could see that they
had a blast, that she loved it.
It looked like it.
Yeah.
He sent me a video, and as long
as he gives me permission where
she's cheering on his shoulders,
is having a great time.
Like, I'm so honored to be a
part of them.
Yes, That was amazing.
That was nice.
Like, you know, what's really
kind of crazy is like if you
just kind of get out of your own
way, sometimes you find those
those things just kind of
naturally happen.
Right?
Sure, 'cause I thought about,
you know, I instinctively I
think about the Baldwin, like,
hey, you guys want to take the
whole family and say, oh, I got
soccer and some OK, you know,
And then I thought about another
friend of mine who my buddy who
took his kids seat.
I'm like, well, maybe you.
He's like, oh.
Maybe the kid can go.
Now, yeah, well, they're at
SeaWorld and I'm like, OK.
Oh yeah, we hung out with them.
They were right now.
Yeah, that's what I was hoping
for.
And then I'm thinking, OK, like,
what's the most impactful person
that I think would really, you
know, appreciate it and, like,
love it and it would be a great
thing for them, right?
And I'm like, holy shit,
Ronnie's in town like this.
Yeah, it's something he can't
do.
Yeah, this regularly this is a
perfect storm.
Sure.
So I called him up.
He's like, all right, we got it.
We're doing regular work and he
had a great time.
So it worked out fantastic.
Good.
Yeah.
I'm.
Gonna clip that.
Right.
Yeah, You were talking to her as
you walked in.
Yeah.
All right.
All right, Phil's fun facts.
We've missed Phil's Fun Facts
for a couple weeks here.
Hello people, welcome.
The Cigar Hustlers podcast
feature Phil's Fun Facts.
Hello peoples.
All right, you have to read it
out loud.
Yeah, you can't read it.
If you read it quietly, it does.
Nobody can hear it.
Yeah.
First LGBTQ plus TV character.
The first reoccurring gay
character on America TV was
played by Billy Crystal in soap
in the late 1970s.
This was significant step in
representation.
Although LGBTQ plus characters
are much more visible now.
You can't watch anything anymore
without watching some Cole
smoker slop wow on some guy.
It's wrong but.
It's wrong.
It's.
Wrong right?
But it make me hot.
Oh, but it makes.
It makes.
You hot wow.
It's wrong.
What it makes it's.
Wrong.
What it makes?
Wow.
All right, Phil, Good for you,
buddy.
I wasn't even alive probably
when soap was made.
No, but it says now.
Yeah.
You like it?
You like it Now.
That's what you just said.
Good thing there's not a lot of
news.
Oh, I was hoping for news
because.
There is some.
Our best clips come from News.
Yes, there is some, but there's
not any, and I'll explain that
here in a minute.
All right.
And then we have shop of the
week and listeners to the week.
You have my listener of the week
that I gave you.
Yes, OK.
From the four quarters of the
world, all the cigars.
Wait, unless you do that.
Yeah, it turned all the way down
from the four quarters of the
world.
All the cigar industry news you
could possibly need.
Cigar Hustler podcast report
with Mike too.
Energy back is in full effect.
And honestly, all these
so-called news coming out of the
show is just a waste of time for
us.
It's the same stuff, but just
all the cigars are released in
Europe.
We can't get them, we can't
smoke them, we can't see them.
So we're just.
Terrence is speaking German to
people.
Terrence is speaking German.
It was a Viking.
Apparently they went to go see
him or something.
Viking showed up.
Right, so there's no news.
There's no news to the
internative back.
Oh, news, that's all.
Internative back.
Nobody cares is what you're
saying.
Yes.
Perfect.
Nobody here cares, but I have a
list of the top personalities in
the cigar world.
Do you?
Yes.
Interesting.
I asked ChatGPT who are the top
cigar cigar personalities.
Cigar would be accurate.
I don't know where they got it.
It's not like I told him any of
these names, right.
So so I have the top had done.
They gave you real they gave you
real names.
Yes, real names.
Wow.
And then I also, then I have the
top cigar media celebrities.
You totally.
No, no, I asked that too.
You totally bought.
No, I didn't.
I know I didn't.
I know.
Yeah, I didn't.
So the number one cigar
personality in the world,
apparently, is Carlito Fuente.
Okay, okay #2 is Pete Johnson.
Interesting. #3 is AJ Fernandez
OK #4 Jonathan Drew 5 Nick
Perdomo and then they give
reasons, right?
Each one is 2.
But I mean I could read those if
you want, but it just.
No, that's fine.
This is fine.
Steve Saka at six, at number
six.
I thought he'd be up a little
bit higher maybe.
And they actually have him as
former CEO of Drew Estate right
now, the founder of Dunbar and
Tobacco and Trust, known for his
deep knowledge of tobacco.
I'm just giving you an idea of
why they say why.
Yeah.
Then Rocky Patel, Jose Blanco,
Robert Caldwell and #10 is our
friend Eric Espinoza.
Really.
Yes.
Nomad Booth, Nomad Booth He's
definitely probably the number
one personality.
He's number one, but he's in the
conversation.
He was listed as the as a media
personality for cigars.
Really.
Yes.
That's interesting.
Some of these some of these
names are on both lists.
Is that he's still an owner of
room one O 1 or or No, Yeah.
Well, he doesn't own it
technically.
He's an advisor or whatever for.
Room one O one.
Yeah, pretty sure he still owns
it.
Well, didn't he sell it to STGI?
Don't know the details of what
that looks like, but I don't
know.
That's what I mean.
That's why he may not be the
actual owner.
I think he's still owns it.
You think so?
He's not stupid.
Depends how much money they give
him.
It's just a title at that point.
It's a brand.
That's him.
There's no titles.
Remember we've, we've done an
episode on this.
No, there shouldn't be.
There shouldn't be no titles.
There shouldn't be according to
our friend Carney.
Carney.
Yes.
All right, here's a here's a
list of the top cigar media
celebrities featuring Steve
Sacca is number 1 #2 is Jonathan
Drew number.
Wow, he's he superseded JD?
Yes, interesting.
Because he has frequent
appearances on cigar media
platforms.
Jonathan Rude does very little
media then Tony Katz.
He's a host of Eat Drink Smoke.
I'm not familiar with that show
and then I am actually #4.
Stop it right now.
That's right.
Come on.
Co host of the Cigar Hustler
Podcast, Palmer is a seasoned
voice in the cigar community
known for his humor, industry
insights and impactful opinions.
You needed a pat on the back you
worked yourself into.
No, I did not.
You thought 3 was too much, You
went 4/3 was too much.
If I did, I would have been #1
Mike.
OK.
He has built a loyal following
through his authentic
discussions about the cigar
industry and beyond.
Interesting. #5 is David
Garofalo.
Oh, just below you.
Just below perfect.
Didn't even think about that.
I'm one.
He's 2.
I'm 4.
Who's number one cigar hustler?
The podcast number six is Matt
booth #7 is Nick Perdomo, which
seemed odd, but I guess
appearing in interviews and
cigar shows discusses Brandon
industry.
You're actually #8 Michael.
I'm on the list you're That's a
lie.
Co host of the Cigar Hustler
Podcast and owner of Cigar
Hustler, Mike Stephengevic adds
a sharp and entrepreneurial edge
to the show with his deep
industry involvement and
knowledge of the cigar industry.
Holy moly, did you you had to do
that.
No, I.
Don't believe you?
Can do it yourself if you like
and see.
Michael #9 is Pete Johnson and
#10 is Skip Martin, Co founder
of Romacraft Tobac.
Martin is known for his.
Skip's on there.
He's #10 Martin is known for his
candidness and expertise, making
frequent appearances on cigar
podcasts and other media.
And that's something.
Stop it.
That's no, this is it.
I don't know why.
I don't know why.
If you rank our show, we're not,
we're not at the top anymore.
I haven't checked the feed spot
thing yet.
Not even like Matt Tai or John
Mctavish, none of that.
But it's media, right?
I think we're out there more
than those guys are as far as
social media, I mean, I'm on
there three times a day, every
day.
So I mean the.
The only difference is that the
of the top ten that you listed,
8 of them are successful
financially.
We're just annoying.
We're just annoying and out
there everywhere, but we don't
make any money doing it right.
We're crazy.
That's the difference, right
all?
Right.
And then finally, from enter to
back, a heartfelt statement from
our friend Luciano Morales.
Oh wow.
Yes, there was a lovely photo of
him and which we'll put up right
here.
Oh.
Of him and Carlito Fuente
hugging.
I thought it was like a arm,
like a arm triangle.
He wasn't choking them out or
nothing.
No, it looks like they hugged.
I think because you see, you
just see backs.
I saw those are two different
things.
It looked like you've been
shanking or something.
I don't, I thought.
Carlito Fuente couldn't breathe.
He's like let.
Me go.
Last night I received a moment
of true encouragement, a hug.
Oh, So what?
A word of wisdom and a sincere
wish for success.
My gratitude is beyond words,
for this came from a man whose
wisdom and kindness have touched
so many.
Carlito, you are not just a
legend and an inspiration
admired by many, but a human
being who lives with humility.
And beyond that, love is the
greatest force against
indifference, jealousy, and
skepticism.
Even after 30 sleepless hours,
you found the energy to embrace
others with warmth.
When I asked, Do you have any
advice for me, Carlito?
You smiled.
Lean in because this is oh, this
is a legend.
Oh, I can't wait to.
You smiled, leaned in and
whispered in my ear.
Pay your bills, asshole.
They.
Going like, man, yeah, who are
you?
Who exactly are you?
Who are you again?
I knew there was a build up in
the stores.
I can't believe he actually
wrote something like this.
He.
Went in there.
No, that mean everything except
the alleged what he said back
was was actually Lucy on those.
Who do you set up for the
picture?
Like, hey, listen, I'm going to
go in there hard.
I need you to get some photos
and.
Right.
Yeah, whoever you guys, because
it's obviously from the crowd.
Yeah, and it's not one of
Carlito's people because it's
the front of Carlito, the back
of Lucy.
I mean, you remember earlier how
I talked about, you know, being
really, really nice and kind of
the rules, right?
It's unfortunate so.
That that I mean that's the best
media clip period.
You know, enter to back style.
I love that right.
What else you got that's?
It.
That's it.
Perfect.
We have a listener week.
We do.
We need the GOG listener week is
Mike Boggs.
Mike Boggs.
Mike Boggs.
That's the name he gave me.
Well, you like Mike Boggs with a
question mark.
Boggs.
That was the name he gave me.
I just like how you say things.
I just make sure I said his
name.
Mike.
Boggs.
I didn't know if it was bags
because it's far.
Away, Mike.
Thank you for listening.
We appreciate your support.
And the shop of the week is
Cigar Vault Oakdale in
Pennsylvania, where Norm is the
owner.
He's a big listener to the show.
Norm, Thank you Norm for
listening.
Thank you so much for the
support.
Where everybody knows your name.
Where everybody knows your name?
Yes, Norm, Izzy Watson.
Anything else?
That's it.
We got this Saturday.
We have the legendary Michael
Rosales.
Oh yeah, it's the slow smoke
with Roma.
Greg is act.
They're out there talking to the
chef right now.
Oh really?
I believe that was him because
they were they were really
examining the wood.
It's a private event, it's a
ticketed event.
It's a limited amount of
capacity.
Oh, we have a hurricane coming
too, do we?
Yes.
OK.
But it'll be gone by Saturday.
Perfect.
So get your tickets if you
haven't.
Yeah, come and hang out.
We're going to have a good time.
I will be there.
Wow, Really wow.
How about that?
Do I have to buy a ticket?
I don't know.
I mean, I'm #8 on the media
list.
I'm #4 do you know who I am?
Didn't know who.
I am apparently.
Apparently you all know who he
is.
Mike Palmer #4.
And #4 right above David
Garefolo.
Right above David Garrefolo, who
has more money than you.
Right.
There's more.
Yeah, Obviously Tony Katz is
higher than me and I don't even
know who he is.
Cats.
I know cats.
Is that the comedy guy?
No.
That's a different guy.
Totally different.
Guy Oh, he does cigar and
bourbon reviews.
Yeah, with current events in a
humorous and approachable way.
Very humorous, yes, All right,
very approachable.
Well, let's wrap this up and
we'll get into the Patreon.
All right, thank you very much
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Show Notes
In this episode of the Cigar Hustlers Podcast, things heat up as Mikey recounts a wild altercation at his kids' sports event—claiming he was definitely not involved! Palmer brings his unique flair to the news segment, adding his usual twist to the day’s headlines. Meanwhile, Phil dives into a heartfelt discussion about his love for gay characters in TV shows, celebrating the representation and diversity that adds depth to storytelling. Join us for laughs, insights, and a whole lot of cigar talk!