Cigar Hustlers Podcast Episode 353: Sports, Stories, and Sassy Characters

Episode Summary

Episode 353 of the Cigar Hustlers Podcast is a hosts-only, freewheeling conversation between Mike "The King" Szczefankewicz and Mike "BDP" Palmer, recorded at the Mike and Mike Production Studio in Deltona, Florida with engineer Phil. The guys light up an Aganorsa Leaf 6x52 Toro for the Patreon crowd and open with Palmer's recap of a sales road trip through Florida — including a stop at Brass Pipe in Fort Pierce, a shop built inside a converted bank (walk-in humidor in the old office, bulletproof glass repurposed into coffee tables, 47 years in business and reportedly the second-oldest J.C. Newman account in the state), plus visits to Smoke Rings and Smoke Ring 72.

The bulk of the episode is Mike Szczefankewicz's marathon weekend story: coaching four youth flag football teams, a controversial game-winning touchdown call, dum-dum lollipop economics with his players, teams sandbagging in lower divisions, and a full-blown brawl in the stands at a third/fourth-grade basketball game that ended with a snatched phone, a called game, and a very quick exit by the referee. He also recounts a disastrous Urban Air birthday party for his son Justice — broken AC, dead LED lights, a disengaged party host, being pushed out of the private room 20 minutes early, and a manager who defended his employee instead of fixing the problem — plus the Korean hot pot upcharge saga over a two-year-old, watermelon, and white rice. Palmer shares his own quieter birthday weekend at SeaWorld.

On the industry side, the guys note that InterTabac news is largely irrelevant to U.S. smokers since the releases are Europe-only, tease a Camacho interview coming later in the week, and run through a ChatGPT-generated ranking of the top cigar personalities (Carlito Fuente, Pete Johnson, A.J. Fernandez, Jonathan Drew, Nick Perdomo, Steve Saka, Rocky Patel, Jose Blanco, Robert Caldwell, Erik Espinosa) and top cigar media personalities (Saka, Drew, Tony Katz, Matt Booth, David Garofalo, Skip Martin — and, amusingly, both hosts). They close with Luciano Meirelles' viral post about a hug and words of wisdom from Carlito Fuente, a Listener of the Week shout-out to Mike Boggs, Shop of the Week Cigar Vault Oakdale in Pennsylvania, and a plug for the upcoming ticketed RoMa Craft slow smoke event with Michael Rosales.

In This Episode

1. 01
   Smoking the Aganorsa Leaf Toro
   The hosts weigh and light a 6x52 Aganorsa Leaf Toro to open the show and shout out Smoke Ring 72.
2. 02
   Road Trip: Brass Pipe and Florida Shop Visits
   Palmer details his run from Fort Pierce north, including Brass Pipe's converted-bank lounge, its coffee bar plans, and 47 years in business as a longtime J.C. Newman account.
3. 03
   Coaching Four Youth Football Teams
   Mike explains the grind of coaching four teams, a controversial game-winning catch, and the politics of coaches keeping strong teams in lower divisions.
4. 04
   The Basketball Game Brawl
   A questionable referee, an angry grandmother snatching a parent's phone, and a game called off early over a fight in the stands.
5. 05
   Urban Air Birthday Party Disaster
   No AC, broken lights, an unmotivated party host, an early room eviction, and a manager who defended his staff instead of making it right.
6. 06
   Phil's Fun Facts and SeaWorld Recap
   Phil's fun fact on Billy Crystal's character in Soap, plus Palmer's birthday weekend at SeaWorld and giving away his Bucs-Broncos front-row seats.
7. 07
   ChatGPT Ranks Cigar Personalities
   The hosts read AI-generated top-10 lists of cigar industry and cigar media personalities and argue over the placements — including their own.
8. 08
   Luciano's Carlito Fuente Post, Listener and Shop of the Week
   A riff on Luciano Meirelles' heartfelt post about Carlito Fuente, plus Listener of the Week Mike Boggs and Shop of the Week Cigar Vault Oakdale.

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Transcript

P. Yeah, I'm dead, it's my destiny, Make way for the king, Another Mike and Mike production, in 3, 3, 2, 1, 1, 0, let's go, hit the music, welcome, this is This is Cigar Hustlers Podcast, episode 353. Record live at Mike and Mike Production Studio in Deltona, Florida, this is Cigar Hustlers Podcast, the show where two guys share their passion for cigars, business, and life. Join Mike, the King, Stefankiewicz, and his co-host, Mike BDP Palmer, National Sales Manager, for Postal Cigars, as they talk about the latest cigars news, reviews, and interview some of the most influential people in the cigar industry.

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Yes. Oh, this show is going to be bananas right here. Bananas. What are we doing for the Patreon?

Jack Drone always wants to know. Oh, he wants to know. We're smoking the Arsenio Hall! Who, who, who, who, who?

From the Dog Pound. From the Dog Pound? That was Arsenio's group. Oh, it was the Dog Pound?

The Dog Pound. It's a little before my time. Yeah, I was going to say, I'm a little older than you guys, so, you know. This is AgroNorsa, isn't it?

Yeah, it's AgroNorsa. AgroNorsa? 6x52 Toro. Oh.

Are you weighing it with the paper sleeve, the giant paper sleeve? I did. Okay, what was it? 2 grams.

You want to weigh without? Nah, that's okay. Maybe see the difference. 1 grams.

So, oh. Ay, ay, ay. Ay, ay, ay, ay. It's a week, buddy.

My goodness. Here we go. Before we get started, I have to mention, I have to say hello to shirtless Mike over at Smokering 72. Yeah, I wanted to get that out of the way.

I wanted to get out of the way so I didn't forget. Here's his lovely photo. He made me a milkshake. Very delicious milkshake.

It was a complimentary milkshake as well. Yes, which I was not expecting. No, no, your money's no good here. No, we didn't even get that far.

It just never came up again. He just handed it to me and then walked away. And they walked away. Oh, really?

Did you ask for the milkshake? Yes, I did. Because last time I was there, I wanted one and I didn't ask for one. Gotcha.

And did you offer to pay at the end? No, they just, they walked away and left me. So maybe they think I dined and dashed. Maybe, maybe I owe the $6 for the milkshake.

You always gotta ask before you go ahead. We'll see you again. Bummer. What do I owe you for the milkshake?

I owe you for the milkshake. They'd probably say like, hey, don't worry about it. You can't assume. I might have done that, and now I don't remember.

It's gonna be okay, though. Okay, though, it costed one shout-out on the show. And only got free advertising. Right.

Okay. Interesting. So you shout-out, so you did some road traveling? Yes, I went down to Fort Pierce and worked my way north.

A little Brass Pipe action? Yes, went to Brass Pipe. You saw your cousin? Saw my cousin, Mark, and Leo, and Steve, and the new amazing Brass Pipe bus.

And Fran came down and said hello, a bunch of people came in. I haven't had the opportunity to make it to that location yet, but I heard that it's a bank. It used to be a bank. Man, dude.

I love a cigar shop that's convertible. Right, so the walk-in humidor used to be an office, so it's that old-style half-wood glass with an open top. Nice. And then the lounge is in the back once you walk past where I guess the tellers would have been, and the bulletproof glass is still there in some places.

If it's there... They've cut a hunk out and made coffee tables for the lounge. The lounge. That's cool.

That's cool. But there is still sections there, and they're turning that into, like, a coffee bar. No kidding. Now, where you can come in and order specialty coffees.

That's pretty cool. Because it's not, since the lounge is in the back in what used to be the bank manager's office and part of a storage room, I guess, because it's bigger, there's no smoke in the front half of the building at all. Because it's enclosed. Right.

Do they have good ventilation in the back? Yes, there were three smoke eaters in a lounge probably about the size of this studio, that studio, And then maybe just a little bit bigger than that. Right. So, yeah, it was a good size.

Very nice. Is there a drive-thru? No. That would be nice.

It's not on an end. Man. Not on an end. That would have been cool if there was a drive-thru window with the tubes.

Right. Ooh. Right. C.

Newman account in the state. Really? They've been there for 47 years. Well, not that location.

They used to be in a different location. But in business. You can see, yeah, they've been in business for 47 years. That's so funny.

It is. And I'm not allowed to wear a jacket in there anymore. It has to stay in the car. They're a short and flip-flop type place.

Then we gotta get you some Howard G. fucking crazy button-ups. Crazy button-ups? Yeah.

He's got the brand. My wife bought me this one for part of my birthday presents, I wore that today and I have another one for tomorrow. Nice. Yeah, we got back-to-back birthdays tomorrow.

Yes. You and that guy over there. Yeah, Phil. Well, boots when he's on the Patreon.

I don't know when Phil's birthday is. I have no idea. Phil, when's your birthday? Okay.

Uh, tomorrow. Oh, yours is, oh, all three of us, wow, look at that. Yeah, yeah. Oh, amazing.

I wasn't aware. Who knew? Who knew? I heard it was March or something.

Now that he no longer has his masks. I didn't want to, I didn't want to create a different day because you guys would make me remember it. And then we would have celebrated it? Yeah.

You know what today is? I heard it was March. I think we're going with March. Happy birthday, Phil.

Oh. You're going to go with March. It's in March. I didn't know.

Well, any, did you get kicked in the teeth at all? Did you kick in the teeth at all? I love a good kick in the teeth story. No, actually, I did not.

Every visit was a nice, well, not really kicked in the teeth, but Tony, Nardone, and Yaz weren't at that shop when I got there, so I waited for about 45 minutes, and then, I mean, like I was, I didn't get home till 9 o'clock that night, so I was sort of running out of time. Oh. Okay. So I moved on.

But that would have been the only kick in the teeth-ish. Yeah, that's not right. It doesn't qualify. " Did you make an appointment?

Right. I'm sorry, I've never heard of your cigars before. Right. Do you do terms?

We have a problem. Right. Yeah, yeah, none of those. " Kind of a nice day visiting shops.

And then you gotta decide if you woke up and you chose violence. If you chose violence. Right, yeah, exactly. You know?

It is what it is. Got to see John Converse at Smoke Rings. Yeah. I haven't seen him in a while, because we no longer deal with that brand here, so it was nice to see him.

That's good. Yeah. It's fun when you run into another rep somewhere that you know that well. Yeah.

Yeah. " You go, "Well, you know, I don't want to interrupt. No, no, we're done. " So, you know, and then he steps away while I do my thing, and then we all sort of hung out for a little bit.

Nice. Yeah. " I stole a milkshake. " He wants too much space.

He wants too much space. He wants way too much space. There's a requirement for like... Yeah, there's a requirement there.

I believe he needs 40% of your humidor. Right, exactly. In order for... He just about has it there, too, so it's very close.

I guess he sold them on it. I guess he sold them on it. Well, yeah, it was already there. They were planning an event of some sort.

Mmm. Yes. But I did get more gossip for the Patreon. Yeah?

Yeah. Mmm. Can't mention it here. Really?

Yes. Sure. The story that we've been talking about, I have more. I know.

Oh, I thought for sure that that was going to be on this show, but you're right, it belongs on Patreon, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Well, the one we've been discussing for just a couple of weeks now on the Patreon? Yeah.

I have more information. Okay. Yeah. What about the hug?

Is the hug on this one or the hug on the Patreon? What's the hug? The hug. Oh my God.

I'm lost. I'm drowning. There is a hug. There was a photo opportunity of an individual who took care of this hug.

I have no idea what you're talking about. We received it, intel, from people. It's a Facebook post. How do you not remember this?

I'm drawing a blank. Red light, red light. Holy shit. Red light.

I'm drawing a blank. I have no idea what you're talking about. You gonna text me? No, I'm gonna show you the image.

I'm not gonna share it with... Oh, okay. Alright. I'm not gonna share it with the other people here.

So, cause I want you to see this. Yes, cause now I'm, it's gonna, oh no, that's for this one. Okay. Yeah, I'm sorry, I thought you meant something that, that I came across when I was out.

No. No, no, that's part of the news. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sure. We really should have all this together beforehand. Well, we never, uh, I told, there's pre-production meetings, I mentioned it before, but you never show up for them. Yeah, I'm here bright and early today, baby.

You are today, yes, you are today, but still. We were here at seven though. You didn't make the, yeah, you didn't make the meetings, well, I was here at seven, Phil just came in too, so. No, I was here, I was just in the other room.

Oh, Phil kind of looks like he just woke up. Yeah, pretty much. Uh, he does have his slippers on. Yep, I wasn't, well, I wasn't planning on coming in here so early.

And he's got the, he still has the forehead crease, like the, I slept on my side. Oh, he does, look at that, yeah, right there. Yeah, wow, good thing there's no camera. That's the, I just woke up crease.

I get those all the time, I'm like, son of a bitch. Oh, I don't even look. Yeah, well, well, for me, this week was, whew, yeah, a lot, the week or the weekend, um, the week into the weekend, gotcha, you know, obviously football, right, games, whatever, um, I had to coach Jack's team without the supporting offense, head coach guy, because he was, oh, the one from last week, that coach from last week that took over the, oh, this must be an actual adult. Yeah.

Last week, Jax helped you out. Yeah, no, this is for Jax's team. Oh, for Jax's team. Yeah.

Gotcha. And, man, we played a hell of a good team, a really good team. Yeah. And the other coach that I work with, he handles, he's the other head coach.

Right. So he does defense, but, like, come the last play of the game, he's like, we need a deep ball. And he kind of goes out there and he's like, I'm just going to take over. I'm going to take over.

So I'm like, okay. I let him take over. I kind of let him take over. It's like, everybody wants to take over when you're coaching.

You know, here's the thing is, I think that it's, it's exciting to do. Well, you probably make it look so easy. It's a ton of work. I'm sure.

And, you know, when you, when you get kind of caught up in the moment, it's like, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure, yeah, I've got ideas, I want to do this. It's like, yeah, and it's like, for him, I totally understand, because he's, it's his show, him and the other guy's show, right, as far as I'm concerned when it comes to that particular team. So, if he says, hey, I want to do this, I'm like, yeah, absolutely, go ahead, you know, do it, right?

Games on the line. Oh, it's his team, you said. So, he's the head coach? Yeah, he's the head defensive coach.

Oh. And then the head offensive coach was out of town, so I was running the offense. Oh. Are you even a coach on that team?

Yeah. You're an assistant offensive coach or assistant overall? Well, it's like I kind of gravitated into assistant offensive coach. Right.

Because head defensive coach doesn't really like to listen to me too much. Oh, I get you. So I just kind of stay out of the way at that point, I'm like, you know, so I make sure that everything else is being handled as far as scheduling the kids, as far as practices, as far as, you know, if anybody, I'm the one constant that's always there. Sure.

You're the guy with the orange slices. I'm the guy, well, I bring dum-dums, you know, and I want to make sure that every kid is, gets the attention that they need. They need whatever they need to focus on. I was going to say, I want to make sure they get a dum-dum.

And I want to make sure they get a dum-dum. Right. And then I want to make sure that we continue to grow and develop and we don't, if things get messy, as far as practices, I can consistently show up and that they have fun, right? Ah, I gotcha.

So I try and keep all that in order. Do they get to pick, I like more about the dum-dums, because that's the part I understand. Yes. Okay.

Do they get to choose a flavor or it's just like, this is what you get? They do not get to choose. But do they try? They're like, ah, I got butterscotch, or I got root beer.

" Oh, there you go, okay. I don't even know why they keep those nasty flavors in there. Yeah, I know. Well, I can tell you that there are specific kids that love butterscotch and love the root beer.

Oh, do they really? Save them all for them, yeah. Yeah, so it works out when they... Sure.

Kids go, "Ah, I got the orange one. " Right. But here's the parlay, is a lot of these kids are with their siblings or they want to give their brothers and sisters... Oh, they want more than one.

" Yeah, we have so many butterscotch and root beer ones there, if you should take these. No, they don't blame, they don't get those. Then you got this one kid who's an only child, and he tries to fucking work me over every time. He's like...

He knows. " And every once in a while, he'll get away with it. And I have to go out and rip it out of his mouth. Aww!

Dude, we have an awesome relationship. Like, he's a... He closes his teeth, the lollipop comes off. Give me that.

Can I get the stink? Or you get teeth? He's a cool, he's a good kid. He's a little rough around the edges.

You know, he's a little... Maybe he's selling those to make a little money on the side. Oh, that'd be a good hustle. I gotta be honest, this team, I don't think any of them are really doing much of side hustling.

They're gonna be alright. So, the coach takes over because he believes that a bomb pass will work. Now, I know that the bomb pass will not work because of the way the defense is set up. But it's not my call.

No, no, not your job. He doesn't want a play that's on the playbook. He's over there with a dum-dum in your mouth. He doesn't want to use a play that's in the playbook.

We got 24 plays. And he doesn't want to use any of them. What's your favorite flavor, by the way? My favorite flavor?

Cotton candy. There's none in the bag when he gets them. He takes them all. No, I don't really.

I don't really. I might have one or two on occasion throughout the week, but that's it. So he sets up this play, and everybody's in different positions. He's like, all right, we're gonna do this, and you can see that it's like the kids are looking like deer in headlights.

Like, okay. They don't want to argue with him, but they don't want to say, I have no idea what's going on. So they kind of resort back to this standard play that we always have with them in different positions. So this is his magic play?

I can't do any of the 21, I'm gonna do the other one. Here's what I want you to do, yeah. And he starts saying, I want you to do this. You had to run this deep, this deep, this deep, this deep, and all the kids are like, okay, and like, nobody, they don't do it.

Nobody knows what's going on. Yeah, they're like, hey, you know what, we're just gonna, like, they all just kind of went back to this normal play that we have. Cover two, cover two. And, and I'm fine with that, too, you know.

So, uh, it's a small little out route, ball gets passed to one of the fastest kids with the best hands in our team. Sure. And he catches it in the middle of the field, and he goes up. The sidelines, and he kind of gets pushed at the end, and he leans in and he makes a touchdown, and it was amazing, it was absolutely a very controversial call, he may or may not have stepped out of bounds, refs may or may not have seen that, you're not allowed to dive, but he didn't dive, he was just leaning forward, because he was being shoved, you know, like all of this stuff, all these things could have happened, it's like a Patriot Tom Brady thing going on, it was amazing, the ball may or may not have been deflated, here's what's crazy, is the first The first game, first game, this is their first game of the season.

Okay. Oh. You don't know what to expect from each individual kid because you never know how they're going to react during game time. Sure.

Yeah, it's different. Yeah. So, if you can get, if you can squeak out that win, then you can at least know what you have to focus on in each individual kid going into practice. Okay.

Now it begins. Right. Now, if you don't win that game, it's such a short season that you might not get a buy-in to the postseason, the playoffs. And then at that point, you're going to have to play three games consecutively if you go all the way to the championship.

I don't care who you are, these kids are gassed, especially if it's really hot, you know, whatever. So it was a good win. Justice's team had a bye, but I still had to coach the silver team in Patriots with Jacks, and we got destroyed. We were playing a team that doesn't belong in silver.

Oh, they should have moved up. I knew it was going to happen, and I'm like, look, we need to focus on things, we need to work on development. Is that a purposely done thing by the coaches so they can win more? Well, here's what I've learned about people, Michael.

Here's what I've learned about people. Yes, Michael. There are a lot of people that are very successful in life, but what they have done is I totally disagree with. Okay.

" And then I'm going to look at you and say, oh no, but that's not what we're doing, where it's blatant as to what you're doing, and it used to upset me, but now I'm like, okay, that's fine, you know, if you want to work the system, go right ahead. I'm going to focus on developing these kids, and they're going to experience this heartache, and some of them are going to cry, and I'm going to teach them how to work through it. All right, so I've seen that principle like that core individual echo in all aspects of my life, so you just learn how to handle it and deal with it because you know that that lie that they're living will eventually catch up to them in one facet or the other of their life, sure, so I guess that's where I find my peace with it, you know, so does that answer my question, what was your question, there's a guy purposely had Does the team silver so he can win more than moving them up to gold? Yes.

Okay. All right. Yes, he does. Did you apologize to the Blitz team that you- I didn't see them.

Ah, gotcha. " Sorry. It's kind of too late now. I mean, you didn't see them, so it's kind of over with.

No. You don't think so? I can still own. You can still own your mistake.

Sure, but I mean, the coach might be like, "What? You did what? When? " He might not.

Oh, he'll remember. He lost a game. You don't forget the games that, you forget the games that you win. Oh, okay.

More than a lot of you. Especially something like that because he may, he may feel slighted. Right. Yeah, he definitely remembers that.

Your cigar is a different color than, it is. No, maybe slightly darker. Yeah, it is. And, um, I was looking at you going, you got a Habano, I look like I got a Connecticut over here.

They came out of the same, they came out of the same box too. Yeah, I got a Connecticut. And, um, Hey, you got a Habano over there. And then Buck Silver, they had one game that I couldn't coach.

So, because it was going on the same time as the Pats, and they lost that game, but it was close, and then I had... So, if you weren't there, was Jack's there, or he wasn't there either? No, he was with me coaching. Right, that's what I think, he was doing the other team, so...

Wait, wait, wait, you've picked up more teams? I coached four teams. Oh my lord. I coached four teams.

I know. Yeah, this is why you have no time. Yeah, it's insane. I coached four teams, I scrimmaged two of them together at the same time, silver and gold, age bracket, silver and gold, age bracket silver and gold age bracket right and then when game day comes i mean i didn't leave i got there at five o'clock i didn't leave till close to 10.

wow i remember when you're just a scoreboard guy that was this has been a long road that was basketball he was just scoreboarder basketball but that was when he was first getting the coach remember he was assistant just helping out for a couple games yeah well dude you know what here's my problem is that my first friend invites me and says hey come coach with me and i'm like you don't want to do that you don't want to do that no come on it'll be fun i'm like no i know it'll be fun it's not fun for me it is a mission i i actually it's one of the i it's the hardest thing i do it's like it requires so much work and effort yeah but it's definitely um the most rewarding thing that i do as well But he's like, why? Come on, just coach. His little kids are like, look, man, I don't do anything 50%, right? I'm the psychopath that's going to record every game, I'm going to analyze the mistakes, I'm going to look at what each individual kid needs to focus on.

It's going to consume me on a daily basis, right? Like anything else that I do. So you don't want to do that. He's like, no, come on, there's nobody else come coach with me.

Oh, he unleashed the beast. Yeah, now he's off doing his own thing and I'm running four teams. Maybe that was his out. Maybe he was like, man, I gotta get out of this coaching thing, I gotta find some money.

You gotta find some guy who's obsessive. I'm like, thanks so much, bro. You guys wave as you pass in the hall? I buy new flags.

It's the most expensive thing I do as far as tools and all the other things. And, you know, I actually invested stock in dum-dums. It just made sense. Oh, it just made sense, right.

You bought into the company. Yeah, I'm like, hey, I'd like to become a shareholder. Send them a new box every two days. Yeah, like, if you could just...

Just send me a bag. I need a bag. You gotta bulk buy that. No, these kids need more dum-dums than one bag.

Halloween's coming up, maybe you can, you know, buy some stock, the bags. Oh, that doesn't even make any sense, because we've already invested in big M&Ms and Skittles and Kit Kats for Justice's birthday party, which happened on Saturday. Oh. And we have leftovers.

But they're used to dum-dums. Yeah, don't give them the other stuff, they're gonna look at you sideways. Yeah, but these aren't dum-dums. Coach, what the hell's this?

Those are dum-dums. Oh, no, I'm talking about... We got a brother and a sister over here waiting on their dum-dum-dum. We don't like this change.

I understand what you're saying now. I'm just talking about Halloween in general. I wasn't talking about giving away your Halloween, I was talking about you can bulk buy now because they're out. Yeah, the last day before Halloween.

Right, yeah, wait till the 30% off. They're always at Sam's. Yeah, but they'll be cheaper. Target and Walmart.

70% off. Right before the holiday or the day after. How much? $2.

Yeah, start making offers. This is $1,700. I'll buy the whole store. I have $8 here, I want all of the dum-dums.

I need this! So then we had basketball games for Jackson Justice. Wait, football was Friday, basketball was Saturday morning. Oh, Lord.

And then hockey on Saturday afternoon, lacrosse on Sunday. Justice played fantastic in basketball. Oh, good. The ref was horrible.

Horrible. You know, and it's like... So he's dead now. She.

It's a she. She's dead now. Well, let's not get into that argument. It's not like a ref rigs a game for one or the other to be in the game.

Not on purpose. No, they get emotional though. Especially a woman. So they were easy.

I didn't want to get into that argument. So there are multiple. I ain't afraid. You know what?

One day we're going to hit it really big and they're going to come back and look at all of the shit that we said. Wow, you guys are sexist. That's right, sexist, racist, homophobic. Especially you two, especially you two.

Oh yeah, Mr. Innocent over there. And I'm gonna come under fire, I'm like, I don't know what to tell you, man, that is what it is. But it's definitely gonna happen.

Did you say that? I'm like, probably. You said they were emotional. I said they were emotional.

We are successful, but those two are racist. One's homophobic and one's a racist. I don't know what to tell you. So there were blatant calls that went to the opposing team, and the crowd was getting upset.

Oh. The crowd was getting upset. The crowd behind you. It was noticeable.

It was obvious. It was quite obvious. It was quite apparent. Right.

Was your son on the other team? I don't know. I don't know if she has a thing for the coach. Oh.

I don't know if she, you know, like it could be... And where are the ones that say the bad things? I mean... You just said she was having sex with the coach.

No, I didn't say that. I didn't say that. Not obviously, but you hinted. Look, it's possible if you have a friendship with somebody that you might put things that way.

It's possible, I guess. Right? Yeah, sure. I'm glad he curveballed that one.

Hypothetically speaking. Listen, I'm running for governor soon. It's just a matter of time. I did not say she's banging the coach.

I didn't say that. So one of the moms is recording and she's getting upset because her kid's getting fouled and it's not getting cold. and she has the video footage and Andrew is a parent in this league so this older lady gets up in this other mom's face and rips the phone out of her fucking hand oh yeah some excitement and then things escalate I actually have it oh you took video this is perfect I record every game I just so happen to have the crowd you can pixelate the faces I don't think I'm gonna put it up the camera goes I don't think you hear a scuffle Brittany goes what are you doing Are you getting this he's making a layup Yeah yeah I'm getting it So why did she steal the kid Wait wait so what team was the old lady I think the other team I would assume yeah Why did she take the phone She just lost her fucking mind Sit the fuck down I can't hear it I'm standing in the distance but she makes a comment And if something like you've been complaining the whole game or whatever, something of that magnitude, I would assume, and uproar kind of instills over here, and I'm like, okay, stay back, because I can tell you exactly what happened now because I went back and watched the film, but I don't know what's going on in that scenario, and I'm not about to isolate the situation, because they're not my priority. My kids are my priority, right?

So if it becomes a problem where they are a threat, then yeah, I'm intervening. But at this moment, I'm not. Right, it's just you ladies fighting in the stands. Yeah, and then it's like a couple other dads.

And one of them is not your wife, so you're like, everybody I have is cool right here. Right, mine are okay. The little people in this house are like, don't choose violence right now, just wait. The devil and the angel in the show.

You have no idea how hard it is for me to walk it back. Like I'm saying, everybody stay calm. Stay calm, everybody stay calm. I'm saying it for me, I'm not saying it for anybody else.

Yeah, that's right. I'm not saying it. I can really just use this right now. I'm like, stay back.

Everybody stay back. Let them, let it sort out because if it gets crazy, you know. I will neutralize. I will neutralize this.

Everybody's down. You took out everybody. I'm like, I don't know. I don't know what happened.

It's over. I don't know what came over, man. It turned green. Right.

I blacked out. I don't know what happened. So the owner of the league comes over and he calls the game. Oh, off the fight?

Yeah. How big a fight are we talking here? Wow. It wasn't big enough to call a game.

Wow. Now, in my opinion, I'm like, at that time, I'm thinking, okay, maybe it was a good call. But then I'm looking at it, I'm like, wait a second. Like, if you don't know what the problem is, and you have two people, like, let's, there are two people fighting.

Right. Two grown adults. Right. Two grown adults.

I don't know who's to blame, because I'm just walking over there. I'm the league person. I'm kicking them out. Yeah.

And you're banned. Right. Yeah. Just ask them to leave.

That's going to be the next question. Sure. Right. So, yeah.

I took, I tell the security, get them out of here, because there's security there. Get them out, they're going home, right? Right. They're done.

If your kid is supposed to be with you and they don't have another form of transportation, take them. Go. It's over for both of you. You guys don't act that way.

This is absurd. Sure. It's usually in their league rules, yeah. I don't think that you call the game.

No. You know? You can stop it for a sec. Yeah, it's not fair to the kids.

Well, you have to stop it, because everybody's watching a fight. So the game ends abruptly. Rev gets the fuck out of Dodge. She's...

Oh, they're gonna catch me. me right she tells the coach i'll see you later at the hotel she's done she's done she's early check-in uh the older lady who snatched the phone and got on the face she's out of here right she's embarrassed so she's she's gonna get no she knows i mean she fucked up sure she was extremely she lost her cool she was very wrong right now the real question is gonna be come next weekend is she back in the stands well tune in right because if she's back in the stands i I personally have a problem with that. Right, yeah. Because here's what you just greenlit me for.

Me getting physical with anybody I want in the area, and being welcome back on Saturday. Yes. I promise you... That's good for you.

This is good for our show. It's good for you and for the show. Like, if somebody's an ass, and I feel like I need the person to correct them, whatever, you know, like, you guys are comfortable with that, and it's okay for me to come back the next week. The next week.

Right. How old was she? Was she like a grandmother? She was an abuela, yeah.

Okay, well then she could not be back. Oh, she was Spanish, too. I think she was speaking. I don't know.

He's an abuela. He's an abuela. I like calling her abuela. She's Spanish.

I have a tendency to call her. I mean, snatch the phone. Bam! Did she throw it?

No. Oh, she didn't commit. Yeah. She didn't fucking commit.

Yeah. On the side of the gym. Commitment. It was crazy.

Did the lady get her phone back? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. She got her phone back.

I think she called the police. Oh. Well, she was assaulted. It's called assault.

Oh, that's why the one ran. She got the hell out of it. That's why the one ran. But you can't walk into that place without scanning your ID, so it's not...

Oh, yeah, no. They know. Well, if it has a photo, but if they... You have to have a photo ID.

No, no, I understand that. But when you scan it, does it keep your photo or your name? Yeah. Wait, we should not talk about this on the show anymore, 'cause he said he has video and he is now a witness.

Oh. Now we're going to get, we're going to get our first subpoena. If somebody said, hey, we want to see your video footage, we're like, absolutely, certainly, call 504. I have no problem, you know what, I have, put Justin Andrews number on there for it.

You know what, that's really kind of funny is like, that's another thing that's wrong with this whole, with our culture, right, is like, if somebody is wrong, nobody addresses it. Right. They're like, oh, well, you know. Yeah, and this is definitely a platform to address it, because this is for kids.

This is for kids. Yeah, nobody addresses it. They just let it. Oh, there's a scuffle.

Oh, well, you know, she was wrong. Like, wait, who was wrong? Because I could show you exactly who was wrong on the video. The person that got up and snapped.

I don't give a shit what the other person said. I don't care. Right. You chose to get physical, right?

At that point, all bets are off, man. You're out of line. You crossed that line. You're responsible.

Right. So like, and if you don't stick up for the other person at that point, You're wrong too! Sure. You know, it's just that simple.

So Jack's, so Jack's then played his game. He covered the lacrosse. Good job. Yeah, with his brulee torch over there.

So Jack's played his game. They played very well. He, he covered the biggest kid in the court who's got an awesome shot and he, he got him discouraged, which means he did his job. Right.

Nobody died. We were We went home. But before, as we're going to leave, I'm like, all right, listen, you guys stay by me, and we go. We're getting right to the car.

We're getting right out. We're out of here. Don't talk to Daniel O'Bellas. Yeah.

Well, you know what, it's not even, at that point, you're not even worried about the two people that had the incident. You're worried about everything else escalating. Sure. Right.

Right. And then who has the gun in the car? And then who's being shot at? Right.

At a third, fourth grade basketball game. Because it happens all the time. Oh, it happens all the time. People lose their minds.

Sure. I'll show you. I'm like, okay. Well, do me a favor.

Don't show me because I had nothing to do with it. Right. So, objective is get everybody out, go home, we'll come back in a couple of hours. Is there a metal detector when you go in?

Yeah, there is. A bag search? Yep. That's why the most dangerous place- Parking lot.

Is the parking lot. Sure. So. Because that's where they had to go take it back to before they went through the metal detector.

Right. Yeah, like, all right, no problem. I'll wait for her to come out. Yeah, I'll get her out.

We're outside, dump it, right, whatever. Teacher snatched my phone. Teacher snatched, well I figured she went out fast. Yeah, normally it's the other way around, right?

Donde pistole, not the burrito. Normally it's, if a person is physical, if the person who initiates the physicality, I would assume that that would be the person that would take it the next step further. Right. Or at least somebody with them would take it the next step further.

Because they're already escalated. Like, oh, you threatened someone, oh no, you know, like that's it. Right. So, and it all happened so fast, you don't know who's to blame it originally.

Right. It's kinda like Tyreek Hill, it should've been nicer. Should've been. Should've been.

Same with the cops, though. Right. They should've been nicer. Should've been nicer, too.

He's on his way to the game, for God's sakes. So then we had Jack, uh, Justice's, uh, it was Justice's birthday week, end, or whatever. Sure. And we went to Urban Air.

Nice. Trampoline. Yeah, the kids had a great time. That time, we had a fucking terrible time with the customer experience.

Really? It was so bad. Yeah? It was so bad.

You know, you opt in for this private room. Well, the private room, the AC's broke. Oh. So it's hot as shit.

Right. They have like cool LED lights. They weren't working. Oh.

Did you pay extra for this room? Yeah. Did you get your money back for the room? Let me tell you the whole story, Michael.

Oh, sorry. Sorry, I'm working ahead. Let me know if I don't answer that, and I'll bring it up at the end. Okay.

Uh, the, the, the young girl who was our party host or whatever, you could tell, she did not want to fucking be there at all. Oh, teenager with an attitude. Yeah. You know, and like, just look slovenly.

Snapping gum, shirt tails out. Uh, you know, and I tried to have several conversations. My makeup is smeared. We didn't get utensils for our cake, you know.

Oh, it ate with our hands? Oh yeah, the kids, yeah. Oh, well, you had one of those Knights of the Round Table places? Well, no, these kids, but they're not waiting for her to come back again with the forks.

Oh, sure. " Right. This isn't the first time you've been here, though. No, we weren't there last year, and last year was a better experience.

Right. Hmm. New owners have gone downhill. Right before she handed out the cake, she goes like this.

Oh! And she's picking her teeth. With her finger? With her finger.

And then she handles the cake. Yep. " I didn't see that. Oh, who's that, your wife?

I'm like, Uncle Greg saw that, he told me, he told me, he told me the next day, I'm like, so did he, did he eat cake? He told you the next day? Yeah. I'm like, why didn't you say something?

Yeah, I'm like, super germaphobe, right? So, I mean, dear God. That's why he didn't tell you, because he was like, don't let me touch the cake! So, so you got the, so you get this private room for two hours, 4:30 to 6:30, right?

Brittany comes up to me, it's 6:10, and she goes, we were just pushed out of the room. What? I'm like, wait a sec. 6:10?

She still had 20 minutes. I'm like, we were pushed out of the room. She's like, yeah, she's already mopping and she's setting up for the next party. It started at 6:30.

So I walk up and I go, excuse me, I'm sorry, I bought this room for two hours, why are we pushed out of here already? I was just cleaning, I'm like, no, you're not just cleaning, you've mopped and you've taken all of our stuff and removed it from this room. You're not just prepping, like, you already have everything out for the next party. The plates are all set up and everything.

We're ready to go. Oh. I bet they booked it at 6:30. They back-to-back booked it.

" I'm like, "You know what? " No, you're not. And you picked your teeth. He didn't know that.

No. You should just always say that now, going forward. No, but you know what she tried to do is, she tried to light the sparkler candles with one of those regular Bic lighters. Yes.

Was it a Hustler Bic lighter? These work amazing. It was kind of like that. And I'm like, "Look, that's not gonna work.

" And she keeps trying to light it. I'm like, listen, you're going to light one and not be able to light the others. And not only that, you're going to burn your hand. Let her do it.

She deserves it. Yeah, let her burn herself. And she continued. I said, stop, you need to stop, stop.

I'm going to fix the problem. Stop. Is she Spanish too? No.

Okay. Oh, wow. Listen to you. Unbelievable.

I just made me use that thing of Spanish people for the weekend. You're so upset about the abuelo. We smoke cigars. Don't hit the Spanish people.

I don't know, first of all, it's Abuela, and I don't even know, I just used the reference of Abuela, I don't know if she was Spanish or not. Oh, I thought you said she was. No. Oh.

You just assume. I did assume, because he said Abuela. Yeah, you guys both erupted. Oh, we assumed, we assumed.

Yeah, you both erupted, I go, oh, here we go. Oh, you're just flexing, throwing out Spanish words. Yeah. Oh, okay.

Uh-huh. Gotcha. Uh, so I'm like, you know, it's just, he's gonna have, he's gonna be Spanglish in the rest of the- He did his hat before he came here. So I said, you know, you know what?

Just bring me a manager so I can speak to somebody. I'm surprised it took this long for you to even ask that. I am the manager, sir, because this is like our experience has been really bad this time around. So you said that to them.

Oh, you told her that or the manager? No, I said it to her. So I sat outside out front of the private area because there's other tables and I waited about 20 minutes for a manager to come up. They had to call him.

He was at home. He was playing video games. And his other teenager walked out, said manager on his show. 16-year-old manager.

And this guy. It's there, my name's Bobby, what do you mean? No, this guy, this guy's like, oh, you know, so what happened? I explained everything to him.

We'll see, there's no air. The girl picked her teeth. Yeah. There's no, the lights don't work.

She can't even light a fucking candle. She can't light a candle. We got kicked out 20 minutes early. Oh, she would have been in here.

And I, and I flat out said, I gotta be honest, we did the same birthday party last year and the customer service has really deteriorated over a year's time. " You know, she's one of our best party artists. Oh, wow. Well, she must have had a bad night last night, or you didn't give her the cocaine before the party.

She's every bit of 16 years old. I mean, she's... Oh, well, she's the best, though. No, she loves children.

" He's trying to bat for her. Like, so this is, here we go. Well, instead of just saying, "Wow, you know what? You're right.

I'm sorry that you had a terrible experience. " He's like, you know, Did he say that? What can I do to make it up to you? Well, he goes, "Hey, how about we do this?

" What? Why not? How about you take all the fucking money off? Is that a significant amount?

I don't know what this costs, you don't need to say what it costs, but is that a significant discount or is that...? Not really. Okay, so yeah, this should be free, I had no AC, no lights, not even a real host, right, so I'm like, okay, he said most people don't take the discount, yeah, so at this point, I'm not most people, sir, so at this point, I'm just like, I'm already done, right, I'm pissed off, then I had to wait, then you came, I could tell that you're full of shit, I'm like, okay, take, yeah, fine, take the money off, and I said, you don't have to bother with tickets, because we're not coming back. We're not coming back ever again.

What is the ultimate experience? It's just access to all the things, which we had. No, but it's for next time. Yeah.

He's not going next time. No, no, I understand you're not going back, I'm just curious what the ultimate experience was. It's the same thing that we had done. It's access to everything that's in there.

So there's levels, apparently. Yeah, there's like the so-so experience, the you may be happy experience. Well, you can do like just the trampolines, or you can do rock climbing as well. Oh, okay, that's what I didn't know, they have other things going on in the room.

They have bumper cars as well. I got you. Of course, I want to cover everything. Sure.

I don't want a kid to go up to something like, oh, you're not allowed. Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. So you have the blue wristband.

Yeah. You're not qualified. But guess what? None of the employees checked anyways.

Yeah. They didn't check. They didn't care. They don't care.

Yeah. So he goes, look, I really want you to take the tickets. I really want to consider coming back. This is what they tell me I have to do.

So I said, fine, whatever. Well, again, I'm in the same scenario where I'm like, I just want to move on from this now. Right. He said, all right, come with me.

" I'll need your credit card, sir. " You don't have to leave a tip if you don't want to. Leave a tip for the girl that you didn't like? I'm definitely not gonna leave a tip.

Nah, leave a tip. I left a tip. Oh! " I'm not, I'm not.

I know, I know how you're feeling. She's a kid. Yeah, I know. yeah and you know what i don't really blame her entirely for the for the all the errors that have occurred sure no it's just her attitude it's improper training it's the fact that no one's paying attention to her and cultivating a good you know overall experience for an employee level like a lot of those employees they did not look happy that's not the employee's fault do you really there's a training program at this of course there's got to be something yeah for the so so happy experience i don't think maybe there's a video they watch maybe like a chucky cheese video yeah yeah we sold this from chucky cheese just pretend there's no rent so i give her the tip and he goes okay i removed it and here you go so i just pay right and i didn't get my ultimate tickets right and i'm like whatever is that because you declined him or he just forgot i don't know i don't care he just let he gave him the chicken instead i don't care I don't care, even swap for the chicken.

So later on, so he's trying to talk me up because we stayed till like nine o'clock because justice had to do other things and I'm, you know, me being... Is it an unlimited time once you get into this place? I bought the unlimited... Oh, there's an unlimited time.

It's just the room you only get for the two hours. My children are old, I don't go to these places. Yeah, I bought the unlimited for all the kids. Oh.

So you can stay till closing. Yeah. Oh. So...

Ick. So the guy's talking He's trying to talk to me a couple times I'm like okay Go away Thank you I'm gonna kill you We're done here You know like I'm done with you I've been managing I've been watching my kids And you know Please Yes I'm very tired There's no air in here So we go to leave close The chicken was cold to be honest So we go to leave close to 9 o'clock No one ever went in that party room Oh Oh nobody showed up She said it for the next day She set it up for the next fucking day. Oh, wow! Did you bring that to his attention?

No. No, so I went home, and I put a one-star Google review. Oh, you one-yelped them. I wrote a list of all the things that went wrong, and I said, "Best to try your chances at Planet Obstacle or Rebounders.

" Oh. Not happy. Apparently. And my name's on it.

Sure, right now. I'm hanging my phone over. No reason not to. What are they gonna do?

Yeah. What are you gonna do? You're a large, angry man. What are they gonna do?

Well, it was really a horrible experience. Well, it was a horrible experience for the adults. The kids didn't care less. Yeah, but the kids ain't paying.

Yeah, right. When did the party hostess leave? She was probably going to have to set up that room. So that's what I mean.

Yeah, she had to set up. Yeah, so that's why she was like, I'm getting out of here at 6:30. Yeah, I gotta go. Right.

I gotta go do nothing. I got a date later. I gotta get out of here. Right.

I gotta get the edge off this bad mood I have. Yeah. Then we did Korean K-Pot for Hot Pot for Justice, because that's his restaurant. That's what he loves.

The next day. The expensive place where you cook your own food. Yeah, pretty much. That's the one he likes.

So he could cook his own noodles. Oh. You gotta get him ramen at home. He's training.

I love it, too, because, like, with Teddy, you know, she's the best. Sure. She don't eat. That was the problem last time you went there.

Yeah, she don't eat. " Did you have a discussion? We had a discussion. They charge you.

They charge you again for her? That was the problem last time. I said, listen, she's not going to eat. I'm like, okay, well, we won't charge.

I'm like, last time I came in, she got a slice of watermelon, and I paid for the whole thing. I paid $75. 95 right now. And I'm saying this, and she goes, oh, I love watermelon.

I'm getting more watermelon. Child, you're two. We have to charge you now, sir. I'm like, okay.

Oh, we charge you now because she eat a lot of watermelon. No, she's really two. She's only two. I'm not two, Daddy, I'm five.

Damn it. Shut up. That's the only kid you can't get away with that. " My life is a lie.

My whole life is a lie. I can't believe this. Bubbles, kill! That's Teddy.

So then I'm like, "Okay, well, you know, whatever. " Whatever. The whole buffet price. I'm just, you know, I'm getting, I'm getting the evil eye like, hey, stop it, you're being a dick.

I'm like, okay, well. Bring in some luck bag next time, just load that fucker up as you leave. So, you know, then they, so then you can't order white rice. The white rice isn't on the buffet if you want it, it's separate.

Really? Yeah. So she, so the server says, do you, does anybody want white rice? And Jessica goes, I'll take white rice.

And Teddy goes, I love white rice. 95. Upcharge the little girl! So then everybody starts laughing at the table and I go, "You know what?

I'll pay. Bring her the white rice. " It's because they called it white. You think so?

Well it sounds much better than the fried rice. You should have called it candy rice. Fried rice is way better. Sounds healthier.

Candy rice. Yeah, it's candy rice. Give me some butter and some egg in there. Fried rice.

Yeah, sounds good, actually. So yeah, so that was my, uh... So you got a loan on Friday before you went to all these places. Yeah, right.

So I refied on the house. Right. It's worth more now, it's got a new roof. You know it's a good time when all the kids cry at the end because they have to go to school the next day.

Like, we had so much fun. Like, alright. And Teddy put herself to bed. She was exhausted.

I was so full from all the watermelon white rice. I'm just going to go. I'm just going to go to bed. I'm just going to go to bed.

I'm just going to go to bed. I'm just going to go bed night-night. So yeah. So what do we got on the news after 46 minutes of me telling you my lifestyle?

Well, I had a birthday weekend, but that's okay. We don't even talk about anything. What did you do? No, no.

We're 45 minutes. Let them do Phil's Fun. We have to release the Camacho hosting thing this week, too. As an add-on or a separate?

Just a separate episode sometime later on in the week. Yeah, we do, because we've had it for a long time. Yeah, we've had it for almost a month. Why has he been asking?

Mike Wasp asked about it, yeah. Oh, actually. So we should... He's not even in it.

We gotta release it. It's a great interview. It is. It is a good interview.

So, how was your birthday weekend? I'm trying to think where I put it. Oh. I still have it.

It's still there. Oh. We went to SeaWorld on Sunday. I got a manicure on Saturday.

And then we went to SeaWorld on Sunday. You got a manicure? Yeah. I wanted the hand side.

That's your feet, right? No, no, the pedicure. No, the lady was gonna do the feet. Let me see.

Oh yeah, you got the shiny paint. I got the shiny paint. I got the shiny paint. Yeah.

Cuticles real nice and cleaned up. Wow. She did the hand massage. I'm getting arthritis, I think.

My hands always hurt. Yeah. So I really wanted to go for the hand massage. So they haven't hurt in two days, so.

Wow. Okay. It was nice. It's a lady that's done Adrian's nails ever since she's moved here.

Just started going back there. She has her own little place. So it's just me and Adrian in there with the lady. Okay.

Cool. SeaWorld was a lot of fun. Yeah. Haven't been there in years.

They have a lot of rides now. Did you ride the coasters or stuff? Yeah. They've been beaten down with the whole animal thing.

Right, yeah. Oh, well, the only show we saw was the orca show. It's mostly movie. Yeah.

But the whales do the jump around stuff. They still do? The orcas are still there? Yeah.

But nobody gets in the water. Well, I mean, they've killed the playful people. And all of the, Connor noticed, Connor and his girlfriend was, they have rebreathers on their belt, so if they get pulled down, they can put the little thing on their face and breathe. Well, it's funny how they now do that.

Right, yeah, now they thought of it. We're going to jump in the water. We'll have no security. No backup here.

No backup things or nothing here. I don't know. I mean, you still got the wetsuits, but they're not getting there. I got news for you.

That's usually how things go. I mean, if you look at 9-11, all of a sudden now we have no access to the flight deck, right? Right. Unless you're like the stewardess.

There's like one stewardess. No, the pilot has to open it from the inside. Yeah, and then they guard the front. Yeah, they put the car up.

Yeah, the little thing up. Yeah, they weren't doing that before 9/11. Man, that's horrible. A new thing, you gotta look at everybody in the room and be like, alright, who's it gonna be?

I do that when I get out of the plane all the time. Who's gonna be the first one down so that way they make a new rule? Right. Oh, I like to find the air marshal and I like to see who we gotta keep your eye on.

Oh, really? Yeah. I like to go to sleep. It's usually the guy on the plane that's fit.

The air marshal? Most of the time. You can usually find the bulge where his gun is. He's uncomfortable in the seat.

He's uncomfortable in the seat, and with the aisle, if he's right-handed, it's easy to spot when he's on the left-hand side of the plane, which most people are right-handed, so. So there's air marshals on every plane? Pretty much. Really?

Yeah. That's fascinating. I didn't know that. A lot of money.

A lot of money. All right. That was it? Just a zero?

Yeah. Did you see the otter show? No, we only did the orca show, and then we did all the rides except for... there was one that was a really oh the the new one in the arctic that one had a long line and i got a headache from uh which one was it uh oh probably the penguin one the motion sickness no no they don't have that anymore oh they don't have that nope they do have a new penguin thing where you're walking in and the ping i was closer to a penguin than i am to you oh wow that was kind of neat there is one other thing that went down sure what is it so there was a broncos bucks game yes game oh yes yes yes and i couldn't go obviously because it was justice's Oh, okay.

So, I'm racking my brain as to, I'm like, man, who can I, who can I give these tickets to? Because I don't like giving it to Broncos, guys. Right. Those are sacred seats.

And if, and if I'm going to sell them, I'm, I'm, if you're a Broncos person and you really want my seats, you're going to pay premium. So I'm not giving them away. Okay. So, I'm like, okay, who can I, who can I give these tickets to?

Who can I give them to that will have a great experience that's never had that kind of experience before and then like it clicked in my brain said shit Ronnie's in town right oh so I call him I'm like hey what do you got planned for today he's like oh yeah we got to do a thing later birthday party or something I'm like I want to give you my tickets I want you to take Allie and baby gray to the the Bucs game right where are your seats front row it's gonna be a great experience for you it's hot. sure sure that you you know like i don't hydrate yeah but on sunscreen yeah i don't care if you save a whole game whatever just go let her have that experience whatever so he went and he did some posts and stuff right and he tagged me in the one on instagram yeah you could see that they had a blast that she loved it it looked like it yeah he sent me a video and as long as he gives me permission uh where she's cheering on his shoulders is having a great time like i'm so honored to be I'm like, yes, that was amazing. That was nice. Like, you know, what's really kind of crazy is, like, if you just kind of get out of your own way sometimes, you find those things just kind of naturally happen, right?

Sure. Because I thought about, you know, instinctively I think about the bald ones. I'm like, hey, you guys want to take the whole family? He's like, oh, I got soccer.

Okay. You know, and then I thought about another friend of mine who, my buddy who took his kid's seat. I'm like, well, maybe you can, he's like, oh, maybe the kid can go now. Yeah.

Well, they're at SeaWorld or whatever. I'm like, okay. Oh yeah. We hung out with them.

They were very nice. Yeah. Uh, that's what I was hoping for. And then I'm thinking, okay, like what's the most impactful person that I think would really, you know, appreciate it and like, love it.

And it would be a great thing for them. Right. I'm like, holy shit. Ronnie's in town.

Like this is something he can't do regularly. This is a perfect storm. Sure. So I called him up, he's like, all right, we got it, we're doing regular work, and he had a great time, so it worked out fantastic.

Good. Yeah. I'm gonna clip that. Right, yeah.

You were talking to him right as you walked in. Yeah. All right. All right, Phil's Fun Facts.

We've missed Phil's Fun Facts for a couple weeks here. Hello, people. Welcome to Cigar Hustlers podcast feature, Phil's Fun Facts. Hello, peoples.

All right. You have to read it out loud. Yeah, you can't read it. If you read it quietly, it's just nobody can hear it.

Yeah. First LGBTQ+ TV character. The first reoccurring gay character on America TV was played by Billy Crystal in Soap. This was a significant step in representation, although LGBTQ+ characters are much more visible now.

You can't watch anything anymore without watching some pole smoker slop on some guy. It's wrong, but... It's wrong? It's wrong, but it makes me hot.

Oh, but it makes me hot. It's too hot? Wow. Oh, it's wrong, but it makes it hot.

It's wrong, but it makes it hot. Oh, God. Wow. All right, Phil.

Good for you, buddy. I wasn't even alive probably when soap was made. No, but it says now. Yeah.

You like it now, but you just said. Good thing there's not a lot of news. Oh, I was hoping for news. There is some.

Our best clips come from news. Yes, there are some, but there's not any, and I'll explain that here in a minute. All right. I have Shop of the Week and Listeners of the Week.

You have my Listener of the Week that I gave you? Yes, okay. From the four corners of the world, all the cigars... Wait, let's re-do that.

Yeah, it turned all the way down. From the four corners of the world, all the cigar industry news you could possibly need. The Cigar Hustler Podcast Report, with Mike Toon. And her tobacco is in full effect, and honestly, all the so-called "news" coming out of the show is just a waste of time for us.

It's the same stuff, but just all the cigars are released in Europe. We can't get them. We can't smoke them. We can't see them.

So we're just. Terrence is speaking German to people. Terrence is speaking German. There was a Viking, apparently, that went to go see him or something.

A Viking showed up. All right. So there's no news. There's no news of the Internet of Back.

No news. Internet of Back, nobody cares is what you're saying. Yes. Perfect.

Nobody here cares. Perfect. But I have a list of the top personalities in the cigar world. Do you?

Yes. Interesting. I asked, uh, Chat GPT, who are the top cigar, uh, cigar personalities. That shit can't be accurate.

I don't know where they got it. It's not like I told them any of these names. Right. So, uh, so I have the top hat down.

It gave you real, it gave you real names? Yes, real names. Wow. And then I also, then I have the, uh, top cigar media celebrities.

Oh, you totally. No, no. I asked that too. You totally botched this.

No, I didn't. No, I didn't. I know you. No, I didn't.

The only one cigar personality in the world apparently is Carlito Fuente. Okay. Okay, number two is Pete Johnson. Interesting.

J. Fernandez. Okay. Number four, Jonathan Drew.

Uh-huh. Five, Nick Perdomo. And then they give reasons for each one is two, but I mean, I could read those if you want, but it just... No, that's fine.

This is fine. Steve Saka? At six. At number six?

I thought he'd be made up a little bit higher, maybe. And they actually have him as former CEO of Drew Estate. Right. The founder of Dunbarton Tobacco & Trust.

Known for his deep knowledge of tobacco. I'm just giving you an idea why they say why. Then Rocky Patel, Jose Blanco, Robert Caldwell, and number 10 is our friend Eric Espinosa. Really?

Wow. No Matt Booth. No Matt Booth. He's definitely probably the number one personality.

I don't think he's number one, but he's in the conversation. He was listed as a media personality for cigars. Really? Yes.

That's interesting. Some of these names are on both lists. Is that, he's still an owner of Room 101, or no? Yeah.

Well, he doesn't own it technically, he's an advisor or whatever it's called. For Room 101? Yeah. Pretty sure he still owns it.

Well, didn't he sell it to STG? I don't know the details of what that looks like, but I don't know. Well, that's what I mean. That's why he may not be the actual owner.

I think he still owns it. You think so? He's not stupid. Well, it depends how much money they give him.

It's just a title at that point. It's a brand, that's him. There's no titles. Remember, we've done an episode on this.

No, there shouldn't be. There shouldn't be no titles. There shouldn't be, according to our friend... Carney.

Carney, yes. Alright, here's a list of the top cigar media celebrities featuring: Steve Sakka is number one. Number two is Jonathan Drew. Number three...

Wow, he superseded JD. Yes. Interesting. Because he has frequent appearances on cigar media platforms.

platforms. Jonathan Rue does very little. Yeah. Media.

Then Tony Katz. He's a host of Eat, Drink, Smoke. Yeah. I'm not familiar with that show.

And then I am actually number four. Stop it right now. That's right. Come on.

Co-host of the Cigar Hustler podcast, Palmer is a seasoned voice in the cigar community, known for his humor, industry insights, and impactful opinions. You needed a pat on the back. You worked yourself into four. No, I did not.

You thought three was too much. You went four. Three was too much. I went four.

If I did it, I would have been number one, Mike. Okay. He has built a loyal following through his authentic discussions about the cigar industry and beyond. Interesting.

Number five is David Garofalo. Oh, just below you. Just below you. Perfect.

I didn't even think about that. I'm one, he's two. I'm four, he's five. Who's number one?

Cigar Hustler, the podcast. Number six is Matt Booth. Number seven is Nick Perdomo, which seemed odd, but I guess appearing in interviews and cigar shows discusses brand and industry. Yeah.

You're actually number eight, Michael. I'm on the list? You're number eight. That's a lie.

Co-host of the Cigar Hustler Podcast and owner of Cigar Hustler, Mike Stepangevich, adds a sharp and entrepreneurial edge to the show with his deep industry involvement and knowledge of the cigar industry. Holy moly. Did you, or you had to do that? No, I put it in.

I don't believe you for a second. You can do it yourself if you like and see, Michael. Wow. Number nine is Pete Johnson.

And number 10 is Skip Martin, co-founder of Roma Craft Tobac. Martin is known for his- What? Skip's on there. He's number 10.

Martin is known for his candidness and expertise making frequent appearances on cigar podcasts and other media. Isn't that something? Stop it. That's, no, this is it!

I don't know why, I don't know why, if you rank our show, we're not, we're not at the top of anyone. I haven't checked the Feedspot thing yet. Not even like a Matt Tai or John McTavish, none of that? That's media, right?

I think we're out there more than those guys are. As far as social media, I mean I'm on there three times a day, every day, so I mean the only difference is that the of the top 10 that you listed, eight of them are successful financially, yeah, we're just annoying, we're just annoying and out there everywhere, but we don't make any money doing it, yeah, right, we're crazy, that's the difference, right, all right, and then finally from inner to back, a heartfelt statement from our friend Luciano Morales, ah, yes, it was a lovely photo of him, Of him and Carlito Fuente hugging. Oh, I thought it was like an arm triangle. He wasn't choking them out or nothing?

No, it looks like they hugged, I think. You just see backs. I saw it. Those are two different things.

It could have been shanking or something, I don't know. I thought Carlito Fuente couldn't breathe. He's like, "Oh, let me go. " Give me the money.

"Last night I received a moment of true encouragement, a hug, a word of wisdom and a sincere wish for success. Dear wish for success, my gratitude is beyond words, for this came from a man whose wisdom and kindness have touched so many, Carlito, you are not just a legend and an inspiration admired by many, but a human being who lives with humility and beyond, that love is the greatest force against indifference, jealousy, and skepticism. Ah. " You smiled, leaned in, because this is alleged.

Oh, I can't wait to hear that. " Who are you? Who exactly are you? Who are you again?

I knew there was a buildup in the store. " He went in there and you said-- No, I mean, everything except the alleged what he said back was actually Lucy on those words. Who do you set up for the picture? Like, "Hey, listen, I'm gonna go in there hard.

I need you to get some photos. Right, yeah, whoever is. Because it's obviously from the crowd. Yeah.

And it's not one of Carlito's people because it's the front of Carlito, the back of Lucy. I mean, you remember earlier how I talked about, you know, being really, really nice and kind of bending the rules. Right. It's unfortunate.

Right. So. I mean, that's the best media clip. Period.

Yes. Inner to back style. I love that. Right.

What else you got? That's it. Perfect. Uh, we have a Listener Week?

We do. We need the gong. Listener Week is Mike Boggs. Mike Boggs?

Mike Boggs. Yes. That's the name he gave me. Well, you like Mike Boggs with a question mark?

Mike Boggs. That was the name he gave me. I just like how you say things. Oh, I was just making sure I said his name right.

Mike Boggs. Yes. I didn't know if it was Bags, because, you know, it's far away now. Yes.

Mike, thank you for listening. We appreciate your support. And the Shop of the Week is Cigar Vault Oakdale in Pennsylvania, where Norm is the owner. He's a big listener of the show.

Norm. Thank you, Norm, for listening. Thank you, buddy. Thank you so much for the support.

Where everybody knows your name. Where everybody knows your name. Yes, Norm, as he walks in. Anything else?

That's it. This Saturday, we have the legendary Michael Rosales in the house. Oh, yes, the Slow Smoke with Roma. Greg is out there talking to the chef right now.

Oh really? I believe that was him because they were they were really examining the wood. It's a private event. It's a ticketed event.

It's a limited amount of capacity. Oh, we have a hurricane coming too. Do we? Yes.

Okay. But it'll be gone by Saturday. Perfect. So.

Get your tickets if you haven't. Yeah. Come and hang out. We're going to have a good time.

I will be there. Ooh, wow, really? Yeah. How about that?

Do I have to buy a ticket? I don't know. I mean, I'm number eight on the media list. I'm number four.

Do you know who I am? Do you know who I am? Do you know? Apparently, you all know who he is.

Mike Palmer, number four. I'm number four. Right above David Garofalo. Right above David Garofalo.

Who has more money than you? Yeah, obviously, yes. Tony Katz is higher than me, and I don't even know who he is. Katz?

I know Katz. Is that the comedy guy? No. Oh.

That's a different guy. Totally different guy. Oh, he does cigar and bourbon reviews. Yeah.

With current events in a humorous and approachable way. Very humorous. Yes, very approachable. It's very approachable.

Well, let's wrap this up and we'll get into the Patreon. All right. Thank you very much for an episode 353. Patreon.

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Show Notes

In this episode of the Cigar Hustlers Podcast, things heat up as Mikey recounts a wild altercation at his kids' sports event—claiming he was definitely not involved! Palmer brings his unique flair to the news segment, adding his usual twist to the day’s headlines. Meanwhile, Phil dives into a heartfelt discussion about his love for gay characters in TV shows, celebrating the representation and diversity that adds depth to storytelling. Join us for laughs, insights, and a whole lot of cigar talk!