Cigar Hustlers PodcastEpisode 307 The Sentejer

Episode Summary
Episode 307 of A Cigar Hustler's Podcast opens with the crew — Mike Szczepankiewicz, Mike Beattie, Steve Palmer and Phil — unboxing two batches of gifted cigars: a pre-release set of Palmer's own SBC 22, whose launch party is set for December 9th at Smoke on the Water, and a sample kit sent over by Dunbarton Tobacco & Trust (complete with two much-debated hats and a pair of Kracken/Krakatoa-style samples earmarked for a future Patreon smoke). Before that, the guys spend time on Mike S.'s flag football championship run with his first-and-second-grade Patriots team, the value of consistency in coaching, and his son joining the staff as defensive coach.
The middle of the show is a long, good-natured airing of grievances aimed at fellow cigar media figure Coop, who criticized the hosts on his own show for not confronting him about an unreported press release at Lazona Palooza and for treating a social media role as "a college intern job." The crew argues about where the line sits for covering industry personnel news, SEO and press-release timing, and why they'll be giving Cigar Inspector first crack at their own announcements going forward. Phil's Fun Facts covers the 17th-century practice of tobacco smoke enemas, which predictably derails into a Navy-era tangent.
The news segment ("The Cigar Hustler Podcast Report") covers Civil Pleasures, a new New York brand from four friends launching the CP1 — a 5x50 box-pressed robusto made at Joya de Nicaragua with a Jalapa Criollo wrapper, Dominican binder and Nicaraguan fillers at a steep $30 MSRP — with a candid retailer's take on why that price point is a hard sell for unknown brands. They also cover Smoke Inn's $159 Hanukkah box (a nine-cigar Star of David menorah sampler limited to 500), Foundation Cigar Company shipping a second 500-box batch of the Highclere Castle Sinager Perfecto ($33, made at Tabacalera AJ Fernandez with Ecuadorian Habano wrapper and Brazilian mata fina binder), Drew Estate reviving Chateau Real as an online exclusive, CAA and PCA lobbying the OMB to halt the FDA's flavored cigar ban, Daily Wire host Michael Knowles launching Mayflower Cigars (Dawn and Dusk, made by Oliva, $12–$15), and Scandinavian Tobacco Group's Q3 revenue drop.
Odds and ends round out the hour: Netflix's The Fall of the House of Usher, the Festival del Habano dates, a Florida bear stealing a DoorDash Taco Bell order, and Espinosa Cigars as Listener of the Week for hosting Lazona Palooza.
In This Episode
- 01SBC 22 and a Dunbarton care packageThe hosts smoke a pre-release SBC 22 ahead of its December 9th launch at Smoke on the Water and unbox a Dunbarton Tobacco & Trust sample kit — plus the running gag about only getting two hats.
- 02Coaching, consistency and championshipsMike S. recaps taking his 2-4-1 youth flag football team to the championship and shifting straight into basketball season.
- 03The Coop feud: is social media news real news?A lengthy back-and-forth about a cigar press release that went unreported, whether personnel moves below marketing director count as news, and SEO/press-release timing in cigar media.
- 04Phil's Fun Facts: 17th-century tobacco smoke enemasPhysicians once blew cigar smoke into drowning victims to resuscitate them — which sends the show sideways fast.
- 05Civil Pleasures CP1 debuts at $30Four New York friends launch CP1, a box-pressed robusto made at Joya de Nicaragua, and the crew debates whether a $30 debut cigar can survive at retail.
- 06Smoke Inn's Hanukkah box and Foundation's Highclere Castle SinagerA $159 nine-cigar menorah-shaped sampler, and Foundation shipping 500 more boxes of the $33 Sinager Perfecto made at Tabacalera AJ Fernandez.
- 07Drew Estate Chateau Real, the FDA flavored cigar ban, and Mayflower CigarsChateau Real returns as an online exclusive, CAA/PCA push the OMB on the flavor ban, and Michael Knowles launches Oliva-made Mayflower Cigars.
- 08STG Q3 numbers and Florida newsScandinavian Tobacco Group revenue down 3.9%, plus Festival del Habano dates and a bear stealing a DoorDash Taco Bell delivery.
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Transcript
Welcome to the Cigar Hustlers Podcast, Episode 307, where we bring you the latest news and insights into the world of premium cigars. In this episode, we dive into the big stories of the week, the King, Mike Steponkiewicz, and Director of Turkeys of Cigar Hustler, Mike Beattie, Pepe. Steve Palmer are two dynamic individuals who co-host the Captivating Cigar Husters Podcast. And me, I'm Phil.
So grab your favorite smoke, sit back, and join us for another exciting episode of Cigar Husters Podcast. Gobble, gobble, baby. Gobble, gobble. Camera one, please.
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What if it was like Zaxby's or Denny's? Oh, that'd be good. Now you can go to camera, too. No.
No, not even Zaxby's? Why you guys have rice? How about the turkey king of, or the taco king of Texas? No.
Torchy's tacos. Everybody has a breaking point, but I'll tell you. Torchy's tacos. The check's gotta be so big.
Lunchtime with Hustler. That'd be great. We could eat tacos on the show. Yeah, taco time.
That would be great. So, I brought you guys. Oh. Oh.
Yeah, holding it backwards. Yeah, it's hard to do. The SBC 22. 22?
That matches your fine-ass cigars. Fine-ass? Fine-ass. No, really?
Oh, ash. Oh, look at this. I love when we get presents. It's two weeks in a row.
We are going to release them. Let's keep this up. December 9th. Yeah, you've changed.
I've changed. We get cigar presents every week. Wait a second. All of a sudden, I'm generous?
No, no, no. It's just been two weeks in a row. On the show. On the show.
You're more than generous in real life. The way that it played out, you know, Chris, I'm not kidding. My guy, my buddy was... I'm going to say his name.
He said his name. Cut better. Edit, edit. I want to share with you guys.
And hey, we're about to release these, so I figured... Delicious. Why not smoke? December 9th, Smoke on the Water will be the release party.
Delicious. December 9th, Smoke on the Water will be the release party. Nice. And you're going to do a podcast from there.
I think we're going to try and do a podcast. Just the two of you. That would be nice. Without you.
It should be interesting. There'll be no sound, no video. It could be chaos. It should be interesting.
Somehow it'll be shot backwards. All the video will run backwards. Wow. So, I got some cool stuff to tell you.
Yeah? Yeah. All right, tell us we light up these delicious cigars. Do tell.
So, the first grade, second grade Patriots, my flag football team. Yes? We ended the season 2-4-1. 2-4-1, okay.
Two wins, four losses, one tie. Oh. And then we went ahead and won the fucking championship. Hey!
We're bringing him back to ship. We're bringing him back to ship. What are we doing? Oh, thank you.
I got it. Thank you, please sit down. All right, calm down, calm down, calm down. I got to tell you, man, it was a lot of work.
Yeah? But it was by far the best feeling I've had. Oh, I'm sure. As far as coaching kids and just seeing them click.
Right. And get it. And to get it at that time. What was the record of the first loser?
The first loser? Yeah, the one they beat. Two, five. They're not second place.
They're the first loser. Oh, I can look it up. No, no. I just thought you might know off the top of your head.
It's not important. I was kind of curious about that, to be honest. Loser, I have a real question. You always have a question.
That's a real question. The question is... Do you have a fake question? No.
The question I have is... Yeah, I have one question. What's your one question? So, did you cry?
No. Oh, come on, man, really? What am I? They're children!
I was super excited. Dude, first of all, I don't know if you know anything about me, but that's definitely not my mentality. The mentality is, alright, cool. So, the answer was, hey, congratulations, I'm proud of every single one of you guys.
You guys have worked really hard. This is a big thing for you. You know, thank you so much for the honor and the privilege of letting me coach you this season. For those of you who are staying, practice is next Wednesday, and that was how it ended, you know, it's like, we are going, let's go, we got things to work on, we're gonna keep fine-tuning.
You guys didn't wear the snowboard goggles and spray the champagne? No, no, no. You didn't rush the field? No, but I could tell you this, I know for a fact that I ruined some parents' dinners.
They had fucking plans. I know they had plans, they figured... Because you gave out things? They're gonna lose.
No, they figured we would go out in the first round or whatever. Oh, they had, like, reservations. Yeah, like, you could tell. that they were like, oh, God.
Well, we fucking did it. Oh, God. They're going on to the next round. So it was epic, dude.
It was absolutely epic. Well, congratulations. Thank you so much. I'm sure it was a lot of hard work.
Dude, it is a ton of hard work. You've been updating this every week. We understand. It is a ton of hard work.
And I will tell you right now, the team that we beat in the championship were the Jags, and they were 3-3-1. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. Crazy. They lost this Sunday as well.
And they were the... Do they always still lose to Jags? And they were the top seed in that division. Oh, nice.
So, quick question. Yep. His question is? Well, I actually have a question for Palmer.
Sorry, I wasn't driving towards you. Oh, is it not football really? Palmer, have you ever coached a sports team? I have done substitute coaching when my boys were little.
When the boys were little, I was not the regular coach, but I have subbed in for different things, yes. I have coached one team before. It was a football, a little Mighty Mites football team. Oh, I guess I did do soccer.
Was it for E or no? No, this is when I was in Virginia. He was two at the time. But I did it.
Not a big player. He was two. Yeah. Right.
But it's an accomplishment, man. Yeah. When your kids do good, you know, even though they're not your kids, But you had your kids on a team too, so. Yeah, I had, Justice was on the team.
Yeah, you get the best of both worlds. What was cool was that when they got to, when things finally clicked, you could see it, you know, I'm like, hey, no, you gotta do, you have to run the whole thing, and you got, the ball's gotta go here, or the flag pulling, or whatever. Right. When you had that conversation with one individual kid, and they're like, oh, oh, I can do that, I can do that.
That's the thing, I didn't know how. And then all of a sudden, we start ripping and ball, ripping and, ripping balls down the field, looking like fucking, just, it was incredible, you know, and just determining, and dude, I gotta, we had one kid, he's great, he's our best player, and he's the guy we start with, you know, I'm like, okay, here you go, open it up, open it up, and then when you start hearing the defense say, cover this guy, cover this guy, and they all start bleeding into him, I'm like, yeah, buddy, that is exactly what I want, thank you. And it just opens up everybody else, and they start moving the ball down the field, and at that point, the defense starts to get discouraged. Yeah, they're a little confused, like, who do we come, where are we going?
Because, you know, you can't have, if you had six ridiculously strong players on the team, of course things would get a little more difficult, but, you know, I figured that out too. So it was awesome. Now, here's what's really cool. So, I got the defensive coach who was coaching with me, he's gone.
He's, kids going to do hockey or whatever, I'm gonna miss him as a good kid. So my- Was he a vital part? No, I don't think anybody's a vital part other than me, to be honest. You know, because- You're the Belichick.
Well, no, it's not that, it's that, I don't know, dude, as crazy as it sounds, I guess. So here's how you can do anything successfully in life, right? Consistency. If you consistently show up, if you consistently put in the work, if you do it over and over and over again, and you break it down, and you repeat it, you'll be successful.
Right? Right. And the same. Yeah.
So there were plenty of times when, unfortunately, this guy, he couldn't make it for work, or whatever the case may be, or there was something else going on. The coach. Yeah. So, no, the kid had a job.
So, I was consistently showing, I would show up every week, I would consistently do the same routine, same practice, you can continue to develop and grow and grow and grow and without that variable, it would have been non-existent. I mean, when we weren't pulling flags, we were doing flag pulling drills every single week for 30 minutes, every single week, and then all of a sudden, come the last, last showdown here, It's like, boom, they're pulling flags. " I mean, that's a hard, it's a hard thing to do. I don't know if...
Did you play flag football when you were younger? No. Did you play? It's hard, man, to grab those flags.
When people start moving and... Right, spinning. Yeah, it's hard. Right.
Them little things wave. So he's gone. They move. So he's gone.
And like I said, I'm gonna miss him, I'm gonna miss his kid, 'cause they're both, they're both awesome. Right. " Oh! Oh.
" So I text the leader of the league, said, "Hey, can my 10-year-old son coach with me? " So I said, "Jax, go, "Hey, you guys are hired. Congratulations. " I want tickets when he becomes a coach.
You're my defensive coach. Right. " So if I tell you to move somebody around or switch something around, I mean, you can argue with me, but you still got to comply. Well, you're like Kyle Shanahan, and he's Mike McDaniels.
Exactly. Right, yeah, exactly, exactly like that. That's exactly who I am. Exactly.
Kyle Shanahan and Michael Douglas. Jack's had a basketball game this Sunday, and I'm coaching that. Quick transition from football to basketball. Yeah.
Yeah, he started last week. Excuse me. Excuse me. There's no downtime between seasons.
There's no downtime in life, bro. I'm tired. I'm very tired. I'm fucking tired.
Do you guys have middle school sports? Yeah. Well, that's what we... It's all linked in.
Oh, okay. So, basketball is linked into it. Oh, okay. So, this is through the school, and I have a coach that coaches it with me.
He's the head coach, and I don't know shit about basketball. Like, I know I understand principles and, you know, basic things, but I don't know. I don't know basketball. So he's running it.
And, but we've practiced with these kids for three or four weeks already. Right. And we played that, what should be the hardest team this season on Sunday. Right.
We put on a fucking clinic, bro. It was ridiculous. These guys whooped their ass. As coaches, we are just, we're rotating kids in and out.
We're patient. We're calm. We're collective. We're talking about the mistakes they're making.
The other coaches are screaming. They're covering the guard. Just losing their minds. And that was also a great feeling.
It was a hell of a weekend for me, dude. I felt very accomplished. Oh, good for you. Nice.
Yeah. It's good stuff. And my Christmas decorations are up outside. Fuck you, John.
John Yogerlite hates. Oh, did he say it was too early? He hates it. Yeah, it drives him nuts.
My wife put up all our trees this weekend. Yeah. Like six. Did you dress with a skeleton?
No, the skeleton's ankles broke. The ankles broke? So they refunded? No, so we refunded, then we took it back because I don't want to give it up.
Oh, so they gave you the money and the broken guy? No, no, no. They canceled the refund. Brittany reached out to the company, which is actually Home Depot.
Who wants a new one? To send us a replacement parts for what snapped. So we'll see what happens. Who's gonna fix it?
It's just a piece, like everything is metal pieces, so if they just send you a brand new piece, it's no big deal. Right now he's disassembled in a box. No disassemble! Yeah, he's disassembled, Stephanie, yeah.
Aww. Number five alive! Number five alive. Alright.
I did not see a Christmas tree, by the way. What? There was not one on the shelf. No.
No. But the display was up. Yeah. You didn't ask him for the display?
I didn't go that far. They keep telling us no. I was trying to make it here. Are we looking for the skeleton guy, whatever his name is?
No, he's looking for a certain centerpiece for his decorations. Oh. For the outside decorations? Mm-hmm.
Decorations. Oh. What'd you do? I took the last deck apart because we're getting a new fence in December.
The owner's coming to do it himself, supposedly, now. Oh. You get to meet him? He's been there one other time in the nine years we've lived there.
Nice. But supposedly he's coming to do that and put a new air conditioner. Oh. Right, the day after Christmas.
We've only been asking for two years. Yeah, only asked for two years, for both, and now he's showing up. Well, better late than never. So the last deck I took apart in the yard Saturday, because it was connected to the fence.
Oh, okay. Yeah, and apparently I put it together way too well, because it was a pain in the ass to take apart. Whoa. I ended up just cutting it in pieces.
Made in the USA. Right. I'll just sweep that up later, it's fine. Don't worry, don't worry, I'll sweep that.
Oh, it's all over this box. Oh, you want to do the box now? Yeah, and my drink. Oh, well, I'm glad it went to your drink.
Did you get it in the straw? Some of it had to go in the straw. I'm sure it did. I'm sure it did.
Just be a little gritty. Yeah. We got a box. Oh.
So, say who it's from. It says in the box. It says DTT. It's from Dunbarton Tobacco & Trust.
It is our sample kit to discuss their cigars on the show. Oh. On this show? Yes.
Oh, nice. Oh there's some information here. Information about every cigar. Oh my God, is that a yarmulke?
Oh, there's some lovely hats. I fucking hate those guys. Those are nice. Those are nice.
Oh, apparently there's two. There's two hats. He's got two hats. I asked, I gotta tell you, I asked for three.
I'm gonna comment. And there's a red meat lover set here. Two each. Krakatoa's.
We haven't done the Krakatoa's. No, huh? We can do that on this Patreon. Okay.
There's only two. Well, there's two sample packs. So, there's two and there's two. So, I'll give you one of mine.
I'll sell you mine. Oh, thanks. Half price. Half price.
I'll give you a good deal. I'll give you a good deal for you. I'm gonna troll Lafferty. No.
That's not from Lafferty. He's part of it. There was a lovely young lady who reached out from their company. Oh.
I don't remember her name. April. April seems to sound right. Danielle Lafferty.
So, thank you Dunbarton Tobacco & Trust. Thank you Dunbarton Tobacco & Trust. I heard the Down to Herf guys got a set two for them. For the two sets.
That's nice. I bet you they fucking sent them three. Maybe he listens, he knows the joke. Yeah.
Yeah. Maybe he's just in on it. So, do either of you guys listen to the Coop show this week? No.
You know why? Why? I don't listen to the show. Oh, I...
Calm down. Calm down. I'm sorry. You have to start with, I love that guy.
Then you can say anything bad you want. That's the way he works. Oh, I love that guy. Is that how he works?
I don't fucking listen to that. He kept saying he loved us, but then he said bad shit. Oh, he talked some smack? He talked some smack.
All right, let's hear it. So, first he said we were afraid to confront him about the press release at the Lazona event, because we were right there with him all day. Nobody said a word to him. I'm just telling you what he said.
Wait, wait. So, we're referencing... We sit on a press release. But he says we.
Yes. And then he didn't acknowledge it. He didn't acknowledge it. And we commented on the, not the last show, I think the show before, how the only person that picked it up was the Cigar Inspector.
Yeah. The best guys. The number one cigar media place on Cigar Inspector. Of course.
So he said, they should have said something, if they had a problem, they should have said something, I was there all day long. I don't think, do we really have a problem with... Not a problem, not where I would have brought it up, what are we gonna confront him at the Lazonapalooza thing and cause a scene? Yes.
Like, so we were angry to a point where we were going to call him? I mean, what the fuck was he saying? Well, we discussed calling him on the show, but we decided he's a busy man, he has a day job, we're not gonna bother. For shits and giggles?
Right. Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to call him privately. What kind of fun is that? I guess, yeah, I don't know.
I'm not going to have, like, what's the conversation? I can tell you exactly what the conversation is. He chose not to do it because he feels that that's not media, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, we talked about that. Yeah, it wasn't a high enough position, he said.
He said social media is a college intern job. How many positions does he know of here? It's a college, well, he's just talking about, he's referencing... Life in general.
Business practices. Business practices, yeah. What's his position? I don't know who he works for.
I don't know what's going on over here with your level of anger. He hurt my friend's feelings. You need to just tone it down a notch, okay? Just relax.
And there's only fucking two hats. It's gonna be fine. Maybe we should've done this before the hat thing. Maybe we should've done it before the hat thing.
Now he's lit about the hat and just bleeding into this. You know what? I wish people would send just the two hats but have a separate box. Alright, open the cabinet over there behind you.
Oh, there's a fucking another head. Get that cabinet there. There you go. There's something else up there too.
Oh, look. There you go. Go to your camera so you can show. Put the mask out.
Oh, God. Oh, God. Thanks, David. There you go.
All right, switch back. Switch back. Perfect. Yeah, we were just fucking with you, bro.
Get that off the table. It's bad luck. It's not on the table, it's on cigars. Get it, okay, well I don't want it there.
I can't put it there. So, okay. Thank you. So he thought that we were supposed, so we were like, hey, hey, we're mad about that.
And your job is the equivalent of a college intern? A college intern. Doesn't college interns handle all that? Now, Bear was very nice.
Bear did the show with him. Yeah. Oh, wait, I love Coop to death, but it's the three and a half hour show about local elections? Nice.
Hey, you know. Who made judge or who made mayor of some thinky-ass city in some podunk state? Hey, whatever works for him. That's his thing.
I thought we were cigar media. No, we don't cover what's going on in the cigar industry. Remember? We don't cover when social media happens in businesses.
He draws a line at marketing, by the way. Marketing manager and up. Or marketing director and up. That's where the line is at?
That's his line. We go to all these events and everything, but we don't cover cigars. No, but you know, okay, so listen. Listen.
Everybody is allowed to do whatever they want, right? And it is funny. We just simply said that it's funny that that wouldn't be covered. But if it was brought up on a bigger company, I think it would be brought up.
It would have been covered. Who would it have to be to bring it up? We've said that before. It's, you know, your big, your top five retail...
It doesn't matter, small or big company, if it's marketing or less, he doesn't, he doesn't. I don't believe that for a second. I bet you we could, you know, if I really gave a shit, but the reality is, I don't have the fucking time or the energy to fucking exert towards it, but if I look through all of it, I bet you we could find where someone was admitted as the head marketing, social media, whatever the fuck. Yeah, the Alec and Bradley guy, he did a thing on that.
For the company. Yeah. Oh yeah, one guy's in charge of like parties or something. You know, you know what is though kind of funny is that Coop is always adamant about receiving information right at the same time as everybody else because he wants to get his press releases up as fast as possible and I understand that that makes sense because you want to make sure that as far as search engine optimization are concerned, algorithms and all of those other things.
So, I always thought that maybe it's in the best interest to report something that you think would be in the best interest for the industry, right? Sure. So, if somebody gave me that information and level playing field across the board and only one person reports it, I mean, shit, if I was the second person to report it out of 30, 40 guys, maybe that would have helped me on search engine optimization. Maybe.
But then again, that's probably why a guy of his caliber is complaining about the other companies and the fucking access to the emails and saying that it doesn't deserve what it is. Where he could have probably just got a leg up on things. Now, I mean, Coop, I have no issue with you. I'm not fucking, I'm not angry with you at all.
If you hadn't talked about it, we wouldn't even be ringing it up. Yeah, I wouldn't even have fucking, you know. We would have moved on. But it's fun to talk about.
It is. And I will tell you this. We should put another one out that says I'm director of marketing. And you know what I am going to fucking do?
Why? Since we do run a social media fucking presence, since we do have a retail store, since we do have a wholesale operation, and we do have a fucking podcast. Yeah. What I'm thinking is I'm going to give Cigar Inspector the leg up on all of them.
Oh, they get it first. They get everything first. Fuck yeah. Why wouldn't I?
Right, because he respected every type of press release that we've done so far, so when it comes to releasing something, I'll start there. I'm going to reach out and we're going to talk to them on the phone. Thank you, Billy. You know, why wouldn't I start there?
Right. They cover every avenue of my business. Certainly. They were nice enough to us, we should repay the favor.
Yeah, you know, you always got to take care of... Who takes care of you. Right. " Right.
To promote your podcast. To promote my show. Promote my show. We don't need it.
I don't want any money out. You're my friend. I want to see you do well. Right.
Certainly. Fucking A. I don't say, well, I have guidelines and parameters. Right.
I need seven. Do you have guidelines and parameters? We don't promote other podcasts? No.
No, we don't. We don't care. We want everybody to win. God damn it.
We sponsor one. Yeah. No shit. We sponsor other ones.
We give our money from not our sponsors to other podcasts. So, yeah, you know what, if, I guess if we unpacked all of it, it's just that I'm terrified of Coop, apparently we all are, apparently, so, all right, that's enough, we'll move on, let's go, what else, what else we got going on, uh, oh, we're getting ready for fun facts. Welcome to Cigar Hustlers' Podcast Feature, Phil's Fun Facts. Hello, peoples.
All right, fellas. In the 17th century, there was a trend called tobacco smoke enemas. Animas. Animas.
Animas. Oh, that's like boofing. Yeah, but with smoke. Yeah.
Physicians believe that blowing smoke from a cigar into a patient's rectum could resuscitate them from drowning. How was I to know I've always been safe from drowning? That was the end of it? Yeah, which implies he's always had smoke blown up his butt.
" Okay. Open your butthole. Right. Well, the guy's dead.
He's not responding. Did you say boofing? Boofing's when you put liquor up somebody's butt. That's butt chugging.
Boofing sounds like something from Matt Booth. Well, maybe he doesn't. I wouldn't put it back. Well, if I'm wrong, I appreciate you correcting me, and I don't know how you have that information.
Well, back in the day when I was in the other career, that was a thing. You butt chugged? No, that was a thing. Have you butt chugged?
No. You have not butt chugged? No, that's like a... Or the Navy initiation?
In the Navy? In the Navy. In the Navy. In the Navy.
In the Navy. What's the people born after 2000? Was that Gen Z? I don't know.
Millennials? Millennials? Millennials, softies, softies, softies. Whatever that one is, they created.
Oh. Butt chugging? Yeah. Boofy.
They say that the alcohol hits the bloodstream quicker. Yeah. Through the rectum. And that's why they did it.
So, the first time you did it. I'm not answering this much. Were you on, like, a boat? Were you in the Navy, like, on a craft?
No, he's one of the only guys in the Navy that never went on a ship. You were never on a boat? Never on a boat. So you butt-chugged it on land?
I've never butt-chugged it on land. That way, because you're in the boat, you know, you're moving. Yeah. " No, I don't care about that.
I'm just, I don't care what your sexual preference is. Yeah, we don't care what your mother does. I just want to know, you know... I'll ask her next time I see her, though.
I just want to know when this butt-chugging took place, and... It never took place for me. What did you use? Does fireball burn?
I would think that would burn. I think that was earlier on. I feel like the new press release should be for Palmer for the director of social media and R&D division. And R&D division?
Oh, well, so then I need to ask you more questions, you say. Well, no, you need to experiment. Now he wants to pour alcohol up my ass. Now he wants to show me.
Now he wants to butt show me. He needs vengeance. Oh, apparently. You know, where you're revisiting things from from his past, Bill's got the checkered past there, doesn't he?
Alright, the news, I guess. That's it. Unless you have more questions. Question.
Yes, what's the question? He doesn't have a question. He doesn't have a question. This cigar is delicious.
From the four corners of the world, all the cigar industry news you could possibly need. T. Like two. Civil Pleasures debuts in New York City.
A quartet of friends who met in New York City over cigars have launched their own brand. It's just that easy. It's called Civil Pleasures and the brand is debuting with CP1, a 5x50 box press Robusto that uses a Criolo seed grown, seed wrapper grown in Jalapa, Nicaragua, over in Dominican Binder, and five-year-old filler tobaccos from Nicaragua's Condega, Esteli, and Jalapa regions. Are there only the three regions?
So, everybody seems to have stuff from those three. In Esteli? Yeah. Plevado Nuevo?
Oh. Nobody ever says that one. It's kind of harder to get. It tastes a lot like Contagan.
Oh. Civil Pleasures has partnered with Hoya de Nicaragua to produce the CP1, which has a MSRP of $30. $30? Quite the opening foray there.
Is it the Cinco de Cinco or the CP1? It's the CP1. Cinco de Cinco is their cigar. Colet de Nicaragua cigar.
Is it Cinco de Cinco? Cinco de Cinco. Cinco Cinco. No, Cinco de Cinco.
We did the story last week. Did we? Yeah. I don't listen to when you talk.
You know that. I know. Tobacology bought a lot of them because he put up a picture of him in front of many a box. 75,000.
If you want that cigar, go to Tobacology. The four friends are Sean Dorsey, Sharif Kajal, Cody Min, and Jesse Roth. Wow, what an array of names. None of them have backgrounds in the cigar business, though they felt so strongly about cigars and the community that can be built around cigars, they decided to launch their own brand.
Nice. Congratulations. Why don't we do that? We called it Postana.
Oh, got it. But it's just two brothers, not four friends. Well, they're on their way. And we didn't charge $30 a cigar.
No. Your first cigar is $30. Well, you know, go big or go home. You know, I don't know what to tell you, man.
Roll the dice and throw a $30 number. I can't just look at a scenario and say, well, what the fuck? Because I don't know what they paid. What's the most expensive Joya?
Hoya? Hoya, sorry. I don't know. Who knows?
But that doesn't mean anything. They don't own their own factory. So I don't know what they paid. Obviously a lot.
Maybe, maybe not. You know, how do you know? You don't fucking know. And, you know, the downfall to that is, I will tell you, it will turn a lot of retailers away.
I know retailers that look at brands that are brand new, and they say, "How much? " Might put drones less. You know, it's only available in New York and New Jersey. Could it be the taxes or why it's only up to $30?
It doesn't, I don't know, maybe. It's like a $10 cigar with $20 in tax? 30 percent. 70 percent, I think it is the tax.
Is it 70? I don't know, you know, like, again, same scenario, I have no fucking idea. So, I'm not about to sit here and say, whoa, fucking, but the downfall is, the downfall is if they do try and expand to other retailers across the nation, I can tell you that a lot of retailers will be against taking on that price point from a brand that they know nothing about. Right.
It's just extremely difficult. You're going to put that up against everything else in the store that's under $30. And the majority of those things that are on the shelf are already established. Right.
So you have to create that demand yourself. And you have to have a consumer say, yes, I want that cigar. Yes, it's $30. Yes, I'll buy it from that retailer.
So then they shouldn't sell it to retailers. They should just sell it direct to consumer then? If they want. I don't know how far that gets them.
They've been at it since 2018 is when they started the project. This is the first time I've heard of it. Well, it's five years. It took them five years to put it together and get it right, I guess.
Is that a normal time? Not to mention you hit 2020 where shit hit the fan. Right, that's true. You couldn't go anywhere.
Yeah, a couple of dead years there. What's the normal time frame? Like when you created Postaña, how long did it take you to create the first one? It took me one day to make the first cigar.
But I mean like, and you know, okay, you had to write the recipe, then you had to go visit, then you had to write a recipe. Before he came to the shop is where he's trying to get it. " Right. Maybe eight months to a year.
Okay. So, but yeah, you take two years off of them right away because of COVID. Three years. You got to remember that the relationship was already established for me.
You know, I was already promoting and building Roma Craft in the store. Right. They just started talking to Hoya in 2018. "Hey, we're the four people that want to make a cigar.
" Right. And that was right place, right time. I said, hey, I want to make a cigar with you. And Skip said, okay, well, here's tobacco.
Go learn. And he started explaining things to me. I made a cigar. It tasted like shit.
Well, it didn't taste like shit. It just tasted like nothing. It tasted like the same thing. It was basic.
No, it just tasted like Habano. It didn't have any, there was no dimension to it. And then he said, okay, here's where you fucked up. And then I moved some stuff around and tweaked it.
And I said, okay, this is really good. And then, boom, cigar. Then they made a baby. It's a lot easier when you work with a company that has good tobacco.
The student has become the Jedi. Student has become the Jedi. It's more like Sith Lord. They hired some fancy photographer to shoot their first brand campaign.
Oh, Steve. No, Goji Esparaza, Esparaza? Goji? Goji.
G-O-G-Y, Goji. I feel like you said that name before. I think it is part of something else that we were doing before too. Different guy though.
Hababubi. We'll see, he's photographed New Yorkers in a hospitality, art, and fashion world, including, I don't know, I don't know these people, anybody know Scar's Pizza? No. Who?
The photographer does all the work for Scar's Pizza. Oh, that's good, Cigar's Pizza? Yes, no, Scar, S-C-A-R-R, you know, the line with the... Original.
Yeah, Mufasa's brother. Maybe it's a big deal in New York City. It must be, in New York City. Smokin' launches the Hanukkah holiday box.
Oh, Hanukkah, Hanukkah. Two years ago, South Florida-based retailers, Smoke-In, introduced an advent calendar full of cigars from various manufacturers. This year, Smoke-In advent calendar is back, now joined by a sampler that has been created for Hanukkah. It's called the Hanukkah box.
I haven't seen one of these. You probably have and haven't noticed, it's the star-shaped box that everybody's been holding up lately. But I haven't, have you ever had them here? No, no, they just came out.
Oh, I thought it was every year. It's from Smoke-In. Smoke in. Last year they did an event box for Christians, basically.
A regular Christmas one. You know, on the first, you smoke this cigar, second, so you can keep track of the days. Now they have a Hanukkah one. Yeah.
So they put all the boxes together and it makes a Star of David. Smoking. And as you bring the cigar out, it looks like a candle from the menorah. So then you have, or however many are around there.
Retailer. Oh, they have their own. Let's see, it features a high quality cardboard packaging. In this case, each of the nine cigars is packaged in boxes in shape like triangles or pentagons that are made to mimic the candles of the menorah.
When placed inside the larger boxes, individual boxes form the Star of David. Smokin' has listed the Hanukkah box for $159. There are 500 boxes made for 2023. There you go.
That's a great idea. Abe's always on top of things. Yeah, sure. Foundation begins shipping the second batch of Highclair Castle Senagers.
Foundation. We ship a COD. We ship the COD. In early July, Foundation Cigar Company Highclair Castle announced the Highclair Castle Senager The Cineger was becoming an annual release with 500 boxes slated to be released each November.
Today the company announced that those cigars are on their way to stores. They're online. They're online. They're online.
We got ours on Friday. They're almost gone. The Cineger is a 6 3/4 by 52 Perfecto that debuted in 2022 as a limited edition item from the two companies with 2,800 boxes of 12 cigars produced as the cigar was announced as a limited edition. Now an additional 500 boxes are being produced which the two companies say will be an annual tradition because they sold so well.
It's limited. Unlimited. The line is made at Tablacolera AJ Fernandez Cigars with a blend that features an Ecuadorian Habano wrapper over Brazilian Modafina binder and an undisclosed filler blend. The second batch will still be priced at $33 per cigar in the same price as the 2022 release.
Did we smoke that on the Patreon? I don't think we've done those. What was it? Because I think you only got two or three boxes the first time.
Yeah. Yeah, so we probably didn't have any down. What was it called? I feel like I smoked.
Senager. Oh, you're right. I got the one. You got the one at the thing.
Yeah, the thing that you weren't allowed to get one, but I got the one. Right, I got the one. The Egyptian. Yeah, it comes in, it looks like a sarcophagus.
Yeah. And a felt bag. Speaking of Egyptians, I finished The Fall of the House of Usher. Oh, I just did episode three today.
Oh, did you? Yes. That's pretty good. That one weird lady shows up and everything.
Yeah. Sometimes at the same time. Isn't that crazy? It's crazy.
And I did jump in the lady with the, well, I guess it'll be a spoiler if I... Say what happened. The monkey. Don't do it.
The monkey. Don't do it. Yeah. Yeah.
She showed up. She showed up. Because they're doing the part where they're down in the basement, whatever, with the fancy furniture and the gas lights. And then that's every time he talks about how somebody died, that person shows up down there.
And then he threw his glass. Yeah. Yeah. The senator was.
There are some quotes in there that are really good. There's a whole thing about lemons. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
The lemon thing was amazing. Yeah, I fucking love that. And then when you get to the end... Yeah, like is your lemons?
You make lemonade? No, no, no, no. Give it to everybody, lemons are the found of youth. You start with a social media campaign.
Right, which is not important. Yeah, which should be ran by a college intern. Or a college intern, right. It's multi-million dollar.
And then you start to suppress, you can create some kind of a... What did he say? Like a... A hybrid seed thing.
So before that, you create a demand. Oh yeah, you buy all the lemons. You control the market. You buy all the lemons.
You create a demand. And you make a lemon shaped like a boob, I think you said at one point. So the tit, this has got more of a tit. More of a tit like tit, right.
And then you start, everything is lemon. Lemon, right. Lemon. Okay.
So anyways, but at the end, there's a really good one too. About the lemons? No, the last episode. Oh, I'm not doubt about that.
Yeah, there's a good breakdown. Is that a big cigar so it'll look funny upstairs? You think he would learn. Senator was released as a commemorate the 100th anniversary of the discovery of King Tutankhamen's tomb in November of 1922.
You know what's funny is how angry he was until he realized that he got the cigars. He was pissed. Oh, he was. And Coop was the target.
Right, yeah. He was gonna take it all out of him. Listen, I'm keeping my mouth shut about this situation. Yeah, okay, good.
That's fine. Keep your mouth shut. The reality is that he was fucking angry because he didn't get his six cigars and his hat. That's not why I was angry.
That's totally why he was angry. The hat's still on the counter, by the way. Yeah, the hat does not go, it's bad luck. Bad luck, bad luck.
It's bad luck. Listen, I care about my friends. I know, I know. What does that have to do with the hat and the cigars?
That's not it. Oh. So you think that you would learn how to address a situation without getting emotionally charged? No, I was emotional there, too.
You should learn how to handle yourself. I can't do that. Because he's not going to get emotional. What do I care if he doesn't think it's a big deal or not?
You're like a 10-year-old at that point, if you can't control yourself. You know, I'll be a fucking 10. Hey, listen. Ooh, very upset.
Listen. Steven. Oh, now we're on my name. Listen.
Phil. Phil's here. Phil. You have to be, you can't let someone get to you.
If you let somebody emotionally charge you, that means that they won. You gonna let Coop win? Coop isn't even like... Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
We love Coop. Who can't say anything else? You gotta understand that he's not even... Like, he's not even a competitor in any aspect of us.
You know what I mean? He's just a regular guy. Coop said something about we do the news wrong or something. Yeah.
And Bear goes, well, it's sort of satire. They don't even really do news. Yeah. I mean, we're just...
We're just fucking around here. We're just fucking around here. This is real fucking news. Yeah, but I add shit to the stories all the time.
It's so angry. You're so angry. You just make it funny. Right.
It's satire. That's what satire is. We're fucking around in the number one podcast. Who cares?
You gotta lighten up. You gotta lighten up. When someone comes for you, you can't let them fucking trigger you. Don't you like gangster movies and stuff like that?
Yeah. Yeah, they fuck people up if they fuck with the crew. Yeah, but they don't get emotionally charged. Those are the hotheads.
That's the Sonny. That's the Sonny of the Godfather. You're going to die at the fucking toll booth. Do you want to die at the toll booth?
I would miss it. I don't want to die at the toll booth. Or do you want to have the baptism and then have all your enemies fucking offed? See the difference?
Yeah. Huge difference. Should have had the canolas. So what you're saying is we're going to off him.
No. I would never say that. Sorry. No.
You don't ever say that. No. I actually. Look.
I love Coop. I told you, I'm just keeping myself up. That's what you have to say, then you can say anything. But I'm being, I'm talking genuine here.
I love Coop. He's a good guy. You know, I think he's got a good soul. Maybe he's a little lost in his ways sometimes, but we all get lost in our ways.
Nobody's perfect. I just feel like every time Palmer does something, nobody, like, risks. Look, as much as this guy gives me crap, the stuff that he does is good. He works his ass off.
Yeah. Hey, dude, I got news for you. I've been in this industry for 13 fucking years. Maybe 14 at this point.
It might be 14, though. 14 fucking years. I don't get nods and acknowledgements from people. I get from some, but there are plenty that fucking don't.
And you know what the reality is? Who fucking cares? I don't give a shit. Because I'm not doing it for them.
I ain't doing it for them. Okay. And he ain't doing it for them either. He's doing it for him and us, right?
Okay. And we appreciate everything he does. Mostly for you guys. What?
Mostly for you guys. Yeah. Well, you know what, dude? But those are the type of people I want to be around.
The guys that are unselfish, that put their friends first, right? And I can tell you right now, everybody in this room would put their friends before them, right? Yes. Okay, so who gives a shit about what anybody has to say outside of this room?
Fuck 'em. Yeah, fuck that guy. It means nothing. No.
No. He's getting angry again. No. Alright, I gotta, okay, let's just move on.
I gotta get out of this situation. Drew Estate brings back the Chateau Real as an online exclusive. Exclusive. I saw this.
Chateau Real is back. Drew Estate announced that it is bringing back Chateau Real, I keep saying the name, an exclusive for online retailers. Introduced in 2006, Chateau Real was one of the Drew Estate's early attempts at making a non-infused line, but eventually discontinued in favor of brands like Herrera, Esteli, and Underground. Chateau Real returns in three sizes, blend-wise, uses a Connecticut Shade wrapper over Nicaraguan binder and Nicaraguan fillers.
That's fine, just skip it. Who gives a shit? The CAA, the PCA, asked OMB to stop FDA's proposed flavored cigar brand. It's one big fucking abbreviation.
A lot of phonetic things, that's right. I mean, holy moly. Two cigar trade organizations have requested that the White House Office of Management and Budget, which is the OMB. OMB.
OMB. S. Food and Drug Administration's FDA proposed ban of flavored cigars. Earlier this week, representatives from the CAA and the PCA They have met with the OMB and asked that the WHO to halt FDA's upcoming ban on flavored cigars.
We're too busy getting into wars, getting out of wars. The VTF. All types of other crazy. It's a very lengthy story.
I don't really care. Yep. The Daily Wire, Michael Knowles launches Mayflower Cigars. Oh.
Do you know who the Daily Wire is? Will there be a boat? Let's read on. The Daily Wire.
The Daily Wire. I have no idea who that is. I don't watch the news or anything. It's a right-wing media company.
Oh, I don't listen to- I don't listen to- He now, too, has his own cigar. I don't listen to right-wing or left-wing news. I don't care less. But we'll see where they go.
com. Hmm. With logistics handled by Brand Shopper, the parent company of Cigar Page. Well, at least- Oh, really?
Yes. What is- Ooh, what? Bring that back. Brand Shopper, parent company of Cigar Page.
Oh. So they own Cigar Beach. What? Oh, the Plot Tiggins.
They're like the deep discount yada yada guys. That's what I thought. Yeah. There are two different blends, Dawn and Dusk.
Dawn uses Ecuadorian Connecticut Seed Wrapper over Cameroon Binder and Fillers from Nicaragua, and Dusk uses Ecuadorian Habano Wrapper over Sumatra Binder and Fillers from Nicaragua. Those are terrible names. Dawn and Dusk? Yeah.
I don't know how that goes with the Mayflower. Because when- It'd be like the Nina and the Santa Maria. When you're on the boat, sometimes it's daylight, sometimes- It's dark, yeah, yeah, yeah. Their cigar's a little more reasonable, between $12 and $15.
Oh, perfect. Cigar's among the few things I've loved longer than my wife. Oh, oh my goodness. Hope she doesn't read this.
You're in trouble. Who I first kissed at age 16. Oh. So he's just letting you know.
She was 16 or he was 16? First kiss, he kissed her. He's casually letting you know that he smoked cigars under the age of 16? That's fucking smart.
No, no, he's liked his wife since she was since he kissed her the first time when they were both 16. He didn't smoke cigars at the time, but this cigar that's come out, he likes better than her. I thought he said he likes cigars longer than he's liked his wife. I've loved, uh, cigars are among the few things I've loved longer.
Oh, I guess it maybe did. You're right. So it totally makes sense for some right wing fucking guy to go ahead and hold on to go ahead and promote underage tobacco smoking. Meanwhile, that's something that we're trying to battle the entire fucking.
Oh, wait, wait, wait. Sounds good. Sounds good. I have never much cared for cigarettes.
Oh, I thought I said I have cared. Never mind. I have never much cared for cigarettes, pipes, or the devil's lettuce. But from the moment a family friend gave me my first...
Oh, the devil's lettuce? That's what he called it. This guy, you know what, and he probably has way more money than us. Oh, sure he does.
And he doesn't even speak well. If the devil's lettuce would like to sponsor you. This podcast brought to you by the devil's lettuce. The devil's lettuce.
You can buy from Leroy down at the corner. Right down at the corner. Not the Leroy. Not the Leroy, we know.
Different Leroy. Different Leroy. Different Leroy. Different Leroy.
Yeah, I'm sorry. That was the name that popped in my head first. As soon as I said it, I was like, oh, bad name, bad name. First cigar he had was a machine-made Cuban.
He fell in love with the whole affair, the flavor, of course, but also the ritual and most of all, the culture. Knowles said he chose Mayflower Cigars as the name because four of his ancestors came over on the ship. Oh, of course they did. It's curvy.
Okay, moving on! Is this limited edition going to be called Smallpox? Maybe. I don't know.
Blanket? See, the Daily Wire launched other consumer products. Oh! What?
They've launched other things. What? They've launched Jeremy's Razors and Jeremy's Chocolate, both of which have been marketed as a response to established brands, Harry's Razor and Hershey. Oh!
Knock-off king of the way. Oh, I know a couple guys you just talked to. Uh, Mayflower Cigars does not appear to be in response to a cigar brand. Our brand, Oliva, and Brand Shopper have a connection as the Vandermalier's family, which owns Oliva.
Okay. And invested in Brand Shopper in 2021. STG Q3 revenue drops. Oh, big shocker.
9%. Is that why he's not answering the phone? That's why he's not answering the phone. 9% has got to be huge for that company.
Scandinavian Tobacco Group, the publicly traded tobacco company that is a giant in the premium cigar space, The Cigar Space has announced its Q2023 results. It's down a quarter for the company, though one that it says is in line with the company's updated guidance. So they planned on losing this. Whoa.
They have lost $330 million. What was the acquisition of Alec Bradley? $330 million. Funny how that worked out that way.
5%. Wow, really? 7%, just a slight. I mean, I would try and call Justin Andrews to comment on the EVIDA, however, he's probably busy in a meeting.
About losing money. 1%. There's some growth enablers. The times, they are a-changing.
Well, there goes the helicopter, Matt. " Why? Poop joke, what do you mean? There's a lot of charts, a lot of graphs, a lot of stuff here.
You don't even say that joke, you say poop joke. Yeah, yeah. You don't have to say that. Insert here.
Hi, I'm Matt. Insert poop joke. The company's guidance remains unchanged from the August 2023 adjustment, but the CEO made the following suggestions. More meetings.
Fire Jack Taranio. Which then he was reminded Jack doesn't work for them right now, so he recanted and suggested that they hire Jack Taranio so that he can fire him in Q1 of 2020. Clearly, we need to take him on. Take him on so we can fire him.
It's good for business. We're approaching Christmas, and we like to part ways during the Christmas party. Right. January 1st.
It's super awkward, but you don't get a bonus. And don't unpack your own. Hey, you know what? Don't eat that filet.
I just want to talk to you about a couple things before you get into dinner. Right. Did you have your drinks yet? Did you get your two drinks from the carts?
So remember how we're talking about fueling the growth? Yeah. Yeah, you're used to this. You're like fucking diesel fuel.
Guess who's the fuel? Did we ever determine if he had an office at... He has no office. At Espinosa?
Yeah. No, but they listen. That might be a problem. Jack, do you have an office in Espelon?
Because he used to share with Hector last year when we were there. Does he need an office? That guy's always, he's a world traveler. But now he doesn't share anymore.
What do you mean he doesn't share? He used to share with Hector. He's got the chair in Hector's office. Oh, is that chair his?
That's where he sits. Oh. Yeah, but why does he need an office? Yeah.
I don't know. You know, I do love the fact that Hector jokingly said, Oh, somebody will give me COVID. This is a flu. And now he's dying.
And then bam. He's got it. And then bam. One guy gets a flu and now Hector's out sick.
You know, you can't throw that shit out into the universe. The universe will respond. Just so you know, next Lozona Palooza. By the way, that has a lovely color for your current complexion.
Thank you. The next Lozona Palooza? Yes. Hector's never coming out of the fucking office now.
Hector's never coming out. He says that every year. Well, now he got COVID. Oh, he's got COVID.
Next year he'll go, look, I'm not coming out. I'll get sick. These people are dirty. Hey, they had some really cool Lizona Palooza packs that I saw online people were posting.
Probably could've bought them. They were like Miami Dolphin colors. Probably could've bought them there. Yeah.
Remember, we passed on that. Habanos! You guys passed on lunch. We ate lunch.
We ate lunch. Yeah, you probably got your own snacks. I ate a second lunch. What are you talking about?
You were gonna buy us lunch? No. No, I didn't buy lunch. Lunch provided there.
He meant in the car. Normally, it's, so where are we eating? Well, they provided food. I ate twice.
Yeah, I did. I ate a couple, and I ate a lot of cookies. And then Richie made me dunk the cookie in the whipped cream icing thing or whatever it was. He made you.
Yeah, he's like, "Listen to me. If there's only one thing you listen to me on, this is it. Dunk the cookie. " Richie knows.
Richie always knows. So I dunked it. ' Yeah, it was good, man. I knew it.
I knew it. " Habano's Festival de Habano will take place February 26th to March 1st. The Festival of the Habana will take place from February 10th to March 1st in Havana, Cuba. We should go.
No one cares. Havana? Havana. Havana?
Havana? Move on, move on. That's it. That's all I got.
That was it? That was the last story. Where's the Florida story? We don't have one this week.
Why not? Nothing? No, there's a new spider coming, but it's not deadly, so it doesn't matter. It's Florida.
There's always something. There was a bear that took somebody's Taco Bell off the front porch when it was delivered by DoorDash. New Florida story. STG acquires for it.
Then he came back and got the drinks. He came back. I'm a little thirsty. Where's the drink?
Oh, there they are. That was a good story. It was very short, though. Who leaves their food out on DoorDash?
No, it was delivered. Yeah. And I guess Taco Bell, so I'm guessing it was late. Taco Bell is one of the places that are open late.
So when they went out to get it, they saw the bear walking away with the bag. They fucking tell him to drop it? But they didn't bring the drinks in. So then later the bear came back.
They probably licked them. I'm not touching those drinks. DoorDash refunded their money. Oh, $45.
Very nice company, man. We got a random Mountain Dew 2 liter with our meal. Did you? Yeah, on Saturday, just showed up from like Papa John's or something.
Oh! We ordered from Hurricane's Bar & Grill. Right. And this rando fucking Mountain Dew thing showed up.
You know what we're gonna do? We're gonna fucking get the Stefan Kevich's. We're gonna recapture them with the Mountain Dew. I got somebody's complete groceries one time.
I remember that. Yeah. " Well, they can't take them back, I don't know if I did anything. Oh yeah, that's right, you told us about it.
Were they good? Oh, I remember there was like some weird stuff. Fancy stuff. It was fancy Mexican food stuff.
Fancy cheese and stuff. Fancy Mexican food? Yeah, it wasn't just like a bag of shredded cheese, it was some fancy white cheese. It wasn't the sharp cheddar, it was the Colby Jack.
Right, yeah, the fancy. The goya. It was a lot of goya stuff. Yeah, all the goya stuff.
No tortillas though, so it was hard to make something out of it. Oh, yeah. Wow, no cocaine in the ocean, huh? No cocaine in the ocean this week, no drugs.
It's funny how that stops around Christmas time, huh? Well, you know, it's colder out now. But baby, it's cold outside. You got a shop of the week, Michael?
I do. Fine-ass cigars. Fine-ass cigars. Ba-bow.
We didn't even talk about these lovely t-shirts that we're wearing. Go ahead, Chuck. You know, mine fits fine. He complained last week that they were tight.
This feels good. You can't really see Mikey's. This is a large. Mine's an extra large, it fits fine.
It's not tight anywhere. Yeah, that's nice. What size was yours? Uh, I think it was a 2XL, and it's tight.
Maybe you need to go up one. I don't think it's the shirts, buddy. Maybe you need to go up to a three. Wait, I want, if you send any shirts.
Are you guys done? Can I have a camera? Can I have a camera? No, I'm not, believe me, I'm not picking on you, but maybe you, uh...
We need a 3X and a large and an extra large. Maybe you're in like a 3X session. You can go back down to 2X later, it's okay. It's easy, it's holiday season.
Yeah. The bulking season is my game. Yeah, and listen, when you hang out with Richie and you throw the fucking whipped cream on a cookie. You dip the whipped cream.
I say one fucking story and it gets used against me. You gotta go a little 3X sometimes, bro. I'm not mad at you. I know you're not mad, but you're creating a thing now because I have now eat the whipped cream.
I'm not beating up. You said the 2X was tight. Anybody would like to send Christmas cookies for boots or for Phil, please feel free. Please God, please do.
We will smoke your cigars, wear your shirts, and eat your cookies. Yeah, bring the, send the cigar, obviously we're not going to get the cookies, we don't get the cigars every time we ask for it. Well, we do. Yeah, we did get the cigars.
We get cigars. Yeah, what are you talking about? No? No.
He's having a, we're going to have to give him a big hug. You got a listener. I'm going to give you a big ol' hug. I'm going to give you a big ol' hug.
He loves hugs. I'm going to give you a big ol' hug. Listener of the week, listener of the week. I don't have a listener of the week.
Are you going down your list? Espinosa cigar. Espinosa cigar. Listener of the week.
Listen to the week of Espinosa Cigar! Yeah! The entire gang down there. Thank you, gentlemen, for the Lozano Palooza.
It was a lot of fun. You know what? People are still posting pictures. Still posting pictures.
They are. Those people are diehard fans. I never posted my video. Beg your pardon?
Yeah, you're real. Oh, I did. It's not important. A college intern can do my job.
It's fine. Yeah, it's not important. Not important. Not important at all.
Anybody got anything else? I don't know. Well, no, that's it. SBC.
Smoke on the water. Are you accepting orders now? Wholesale? Yes.
Yeah, yeah. There you go. Wholesale orders now. And then he'll ship right after the...
I'll probably ship two days beforehand. Oh, so they get there in time. Yeah, so they wind up, you know, that following week they start arriving. I'm very smart.
Brett Fry's on how about that cigar, but we'll put this up tomorrow, so it doesn't matter. How about that cigar? What's the name of Brett Frye on tonight? Oh.
I think he's going to talk about the Halligan. Ooh. Because they put a picture of him in a fireman jacket. I'm going to try to remember that.
To watch it? Yeah. I don't mind their show as much. Their show's good.
I love their show. They're great guys. Yeah. It's not like it's a long show.
But I love Brett Frye. Yeah, he's always supporting us. Brett's a good guy. I like Brett.
Alright. We could smoke the Halligan on the show if we had something else. Oh, I wonder what that tastes like. I wonder.
I wonder what that's like, Brett. Mmm. Mmm. Mmm.
Mmm. Only need the two. Mmm. Mmm.
Mmm. Only need the two. He rolled his eyes. He did.
He rolled his eyes. Alright, guys. It's been episode 307 of Cigar Hustler Podcast. Still the number one show, Coop.
With college interns. With college interns. With college interns. Alright, bye.
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Show Notes
Welcome to Episode 307 of the Cigar Hustlers Podcast!
In this edition, the hosts tackle a variety of hot topics in the cigar world.
First up, they dive into a passionate rebuttal of coop comments, addressing the latest controversies and setting the record straight.
Civil Pleasures makes its debut in the Big Apple, and the hosts share their thoughts on this exciting development in the New York City cigar scene.
The holiday spirit is in full swing as Smoke Inn launches its Hanukkah Holiday Box – a must-have for cigar enthusiasts celebrating the festival of lights.
Highclere Castle Senetjer aficionados, rejoice! Foundation is shipping out the highly anticipated second batch, ensuring enthusiasts can savor the exquisite blend.
In an online exclusive comeback, Drew Estate brings back Chateau Real, giving fans another chance to enjoy this classic cigar.
The cigar industry faces challenges as CAA and PCA join forces to ask the OMB to intervene and halt the FDA's proposed flavored cigar ban. The hosts discuss the potential impact on the industry and share their insights.
In a surprising move, The Daily Wire, led by Michael Knowles, ventures into the cigar world with the launch of Mayflower Cigars. The hosts explore this right-wing media company's entry into the cigar market and what it means for enthusiasts.
Lastly, STG experiences a Q3 2023 revenue drop of 3.9 percent. The hosts analyze the implications of this decline and discuss the factors contributing to the shifting landscape of the cigar market.
Tune in for an episode packed with industry insights, exclusive releases, and the latest news shaping the world of cigars. Whether you're a seasoned aficionado or just starting your cigar journey, this episode has something for everyone. Grab your favorite smoke, sit back, and enjoy the Cigar Hustlers Podcast Episode 307!