Mike Wasp Sales Representative Rocky Patel Cigars Episode 20

Episode Summary

Episode 20 of A Cigar Hustler's Podcast is an impromptu "origins" conversation with Mike Wasp, the regional sales representative for Rocky Patel Premium Cigars. Before the interview, hosts Mike and Mike recap a bike night at Bellacoso Cigars and Cafe in Winter Park and a quick trip to Washington, D.C. that included stops at Tinderbox Waldorf in Maryland and Casa de Montecristo in D.C.

Wasp traces his path into the cigar business: growing up in Cohasset, Massachusetts, a move to Texarkana, Texas after his parents' divorce, high school in Tampa, and graduating from FSU in 2006. After a recession-era stint with Miller Coors in Austin, he took a sales job with an aluminum gutter-materials distributor and opened their Tampa branch — but grew restless. As a regular at Edwards Pipe & Tobacco in Tampa, he was talked up by owner Gordon Smith and the shop's customers when Rocky Patel and sales manager Dave Bullock came through looking to replace their rep. Out of roughly 75 applicants, Wasp landed the interview in Naples with Rocky, Nimish Desai and his boss, and he had just hit his five-year mark with the company at the time of recording.

The hosts also run their standard question set. Wasp says he'd most like to share a cigar with his late paternal grandfather — a World War II veteran, bourbon drinker and Paramount location manager who was friends with John Travolta — and picks Johnny Bravo as the fictional character he'd smoke with. He credits his father's advice that education means nothing without hard work, recalls stealing his dad's Ashtons as a kid, and thanks a former Edwards employee for developing his palate. His favorite Rocky Patel is the Sun Grown Maduro (with The Edge Decade as a prior pick), and his favorite non-portfolio cigar is the Padrón 1964, where he prefers the Natural but recently bought a box of Maduro Robustos.

Along the way Wasp gives a quick rundown of the Rocky Patel Vintage line (1990, 1992, 1999, 2003) and the Vintage 2006 San Andrés released at IPCPR — an 11-year-aged San Andrés maduro wrapper over a Connecticut broadleaf binder and Nicaraguan filler from Rocky's boutique factory in Nicaragua. The episode closes with podcast download stats and where to find Wasp on Instagram (@rpcigars_wasp).

In This Episode

1. 01
   Shop visits and road trip recap
   The hosts talk bike night at Bellacoso Cigars and Cafe in Winter Park plus a fast trip to Tinderbox Waldorf in Maryland and Casa de Montecristo in Washington, D.C.
2. 02
   Before cigars: Miller Coors and aluminum sales
   Wasp explains getting cut in the Miller Coors merger and landing at a gutter-materials distributor where he opened and grew the Tampa branch.
3. 03
   How Edwards Pipe & Tobacco got him the Rocky Patel job
   Regulars and owner Gordon Smith recommended Wasp when Rocky Patel and Dave Bullock came looking for a new rep, leading to an interview in Naples with Rocky and Nimish Desai.
4. 04
   From Cohasset to Texarkana to Tampa
   Wasp's upbringing outside Boston, the culture shock of moving to Texas, finishing high school in Tampa, FSU in 2006, and a recession-era move to Austin.
5. 05
   Who he'd smoke with: his grandfather
   Wasp picks his father's father, a WWII vet, cigar and bourbon lover, and Paramount location manager who was friends with John Travolta.
6. 06
   Developing a palate at the shop
   From sneaking his dad's Ashtons as a kid to a shop employee walking him through blends and building his taste.
7. 07
   Favorite cigars and the Vintage 2006 San Andrés
   Wasp names the Rocky Patel Sun Grown Maduro as his favorite in the portfolio and the Padrón 1964 outside it, plus a breakdown of the Vintage series and the 11-year-aged 2006 San Andrés.
8. 08
   Podcast stats and contact info
   Download and ranking numbers on Podbean and iTunes, new listener countries, and Wasp's Instagram handle.

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Transcript

Every day I'm hustlin', hustlin', hustlin', hustlin', hustlin', hustlin', hustlin', hustlin', hustlin', hustlin'. Shippin' slap, Rockefeller, Tech G, One umbrella, Shippin' slap, Rockefeller, Tech G, One umbrella, Shippin' slap, Rockefeller, Rock Feller. Welcome to a Cigar Hustlers Podcast, where we take a closer look at the people of the cigar industry, with your host, Mike and Mike. Hustle and hustle, hustle and hustle every day, every day, every day.

Hi, Mike. Hi, Mike. How are you? I'm fine.

How are you? I'm good. So, you know, we haven't really talked since I've been out of town and stuff. That's right.

You were gone again. Yes. And I had an event over at another shop where you were gone. Oh, what shop did you have?

Oh, we're at Bellacoso Cigars and Cafe over in Winter Park. We had a bike event. I saw that. I saw your little Facebook post, your little motorcycle meeting.

A little motorcycle meeting. We had about 10, 15 guys and about 8 bikes, so they were happy. How romantic. Yes.

Very nice. Any sex? Not on the motorcycle, no. With a bunch of dudes?

No. They weren't all dudes. Sweet Pea showed up, Alexis. Did the Prez show up?

AD King Palmer? Oh, no, no. She had class that night. On Thursday nights, she goes to class.

Not that she has class, so she doesn't come to things, because she's too good for it, but she had school. We probably should have waited to record before I lit this, so I could light the cigar. So you want to start over again? No, no, that's fine, just let it go.

Because you're going to blame me for that noise. No, it's fine, let it go. That's it, right, you're about to light the little thing on fire. It is what it is.

Ah, look at all the lines. Look, I'm like, I'm practically there. Okay. So, where'd you go?

Where'd you do? You were only going for a day. I was a little surprised. Yes, yes, I went to, did a brief trip.

, and then I went to Tinderbox Waldorf in Maryland. Ah, with Mr. Rosales, he was there. Yep, yep.

Shout out to my boy Sean Vader on Instagram. That guy's a stud. Hung out with him, The Laidback King, JT The Point, and I don't know, there's another dude, Chris, I don't know if he has an Instagram, and I think that Josh, the other manager, just runs the Tinderbox Waldorf Instagram, or at least he's on top of it. Ah, gotcha.

Well, they got a really good, really good crowd. Nice place? Yeah, it's a beautiful place. Big lounge.

Great. And they're, you know, they're excellent in customer service, which is really important in this industry, you know? It is. It does make the difference when you go in, if someone is nice to you or not.

Yeah. You have to move that. Yeah, I don't want to move that, though. I feel like I can just do it.

We're adjusting my microphone. C. Oh, nasty. That guy is, he's a pretty, he's a pretty smart guy, you know.

Is there a reason he's a smart guy? I mean, I can't disclose any of that information, 'cause he's working on some stuff, but I like him, he's a, you know, he went, he guilted Mr. Rosales into taking me to Morton's, and then got some lunch, which is very nice. So better than the Philly cheesesteak, oh, he's making all sorts of things, that's a magnet, Mike, that's a magnet on that.

Oh, and he hashed all over his nice pants. This is why we can't have anything nice. So what were we talking about? Oh, better than the Philly cheesesteak you had in Philly?

Yeah. C. was much better? Yeah.

C. is known for. I think they're known for, like, politics and shit. Corruption, politics, and steak.

Yeah. That's where you get good steak. Really? I don't know.

Me neither. So, yeah. That's it. I did a quick one.

There and back I had a prior engagement, a little vacation action with the family. Oh, very nice. You know, it was kind of a haul-ass trip, but, you know, when my buddy Sean asked me to come out, I wasn't about to tell him no, so we made it happen. Well, good for you.

Yeah. Yeah. So, you ready to get started here? Since Mr.

" I am ready when you are, sir. All right, one, two, three, go. Hi, I'm Mike. And I'm Mike, too.

And this is a Cigar Hustlers Podcast. We have a Mr. Michael Wasp in the studio. The Studio.

I'm going to start calling it Studio from now on. Studio? I was wondering when you guys were going to introduce me. It's just our show.

We just like people to watch. Right. The sales rep of Rocky Patel in my region. Right, Michael?

Yep. Now, this is kind of an impromptu podcast. He came in. He tried to back out of it.

He said he had a headache, and we didn't plan on doing it. So we gave him an ad, though, and told him to sit down and shut up. So we're like, "Listen, man. You're going to be fine.

We're not going to drown you. We're not going to ask you the hard, hard questions. " Well, I mean, I do good with abortion questions. So, this is kind of like an origins podcast since I know that you haven't listened to it because you don't know the questions that are coming, which I love.

And we just kind of want to get to know you and what you did prior to and then how you kind of found your way into the cigar industry. So, what did you do before you got into the cigar industry? So at the time I was living in Austin, Texas, and kind of looking for a job, I was working for Miller Coors at the time, and with the merger that they had, they had let some people go, so I moved down to Austin from Dallas, Texas. So you were one of the people they let go?

Yes. It's like a "it's not you, it's me" thing? Yeah, yeah, pretty much. No, they didn't say that they were keeping most of their veterans, so I got down to Austin, and it seemed like I was having more fun than actual job search, but I did find a company, I was soliciting a company that was based out of Austin, but had branches in most places, but not, I mean, probably 15 different branches in different states.

And I knew that they were growing, and I just kept at it, and finally the national sales manager called me up, he said, "You know, you keep refusing all these jobs I'm offering you," which were like truck driver and all this other stuff. So anyhow, he called me in for an interview, and by the way, I didn't mention that it is an aluminum distribution -- Oh, I was going to get to that. I was going to pull it back. What was the company?

For Gutter Contractors. Okay. The company is called Synox Corporation. Sounds like a fucking hoot, man.

Really exciting job. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, at the time, you have to take what you can get.

Right. Well, it doesn't sound like that's the case in your scenario. Yeah. You can tell them no.

Yeah. Well, the job positions they were offering, I just... Did they start going up to like Gutter Connector, Truck Driver? Well, no, there's no installation.

It's just all prefab gutter materials to gutter contractors. Oh, okay. " So I came back, opened up a branch, took a lot of the competition. And grew the branch in a very, very small amount of time.

I started to become a little unhappy with my position because I was making them a lot of money and doing all the P&Ls and they didn't want to reciprocate. So at the time I was living in South Tampa and I was frequenting a shop called Edwards Pipe & Tobacco. Very old establishment in Tampa. Pretty much everyone knows who they are.

If you're, if you have anything to do in the tobacco industry and all the guys including the owner Gordon Smith knew that I was looking for another opportunity and you know some things came up and I just I wasn't in any rush and then Rocky and my boss Dave Bullock were in the Tampa area and came into the shop when I was not there and had mentioned that they had let go of the you know their previous rep. So, not only did the store owner, but the customers there all kind of chimed in and said, you got to get this guy Mike Wasp, he hasn't been in the industry, but you know, super smart, good looking guy. Well, I was actually going to go back to the aspect of why I don't think he would have been a good truck driver, you know, because just kind of paint a picture for the audience, it's like, he's a super meticulous, you know, well groomed. Not really the baseball hat.

You know, kind of bougie. You know, the belt matches the shoes, the whole fucking shebang, right? You know, there isn't a single space missing. You know, he's well-groomed on the beard.

Everything's perfect, right? This is not a face for a truck driver. Thank you. You're making me blush.

So that's why he's in sales, you know, coming all out like fucking Rico Suave and shit, you know, which I love. And he's usually got funny socks on, too. I've noticed that. I don't know what you got now.

What was that? Look at that. Boom. Oh, bicycles.

Some little bicycles. Bicycles on his side. And they do match his shirt, exactly. I told you, man, that's not a truck driver.

Yeah, I think the last five times you've asked, I think it actually brings some entertainment value. Exactly. Wow, his mustache and everything, so it's nice and straight, look at that. You know, you're a fine-looking man, you know.

If I was a gay man, I'd sleep with you. If I was too, I may consider. I appreciate that. I mean, I'm not as groomed as you.

It's okay, I like him burly. Perfect. It's fantastic. So, but, yeah, the socks thing is definitely a topic that we always discuss, and, you know, I've kind of gravitated into my own little private sock thing, but, you know, nobody ever knows about it, I just keep it low-key, so it's not to that level, it's not the bougie.

So you're going to show your socks? No, why would I show them? Yeah, what do you got? You got all the white tube socks?

Just gray? Here we go. No, man, I'm rocking Captain America. Captain America.

Oh, that's good. That's a good start. Yeah, exactly. I got a bunch of superheroes.

It's like painting your toenails, and nobody knows. Right? Right, nobody else has to take a shoe on. Exactly.

All right, so sorry, I didn't mean to go completely off-subject there, but so you went into Edwards, and they started to kind of seek you out. Talk him up. Right, right, so Rocky mentioned to Gordon that I should just, you know, Put my hat in the, what's it saying? Put my name in the hat.

Put your hat in the ring. So Rocky lives out there? No, Rocky lives down in Naples. And we're actually, our headquarters is out of Boney to Springs.

Okay. So, yeah, so there was about 75 people that applied for the job. Only 75? And they said about 75 people.

I don't know. In the cigar industry, that could mean anything. " Seven or five is probably the same. Seven or five.

Seven or five applied. Oh, 75. So 75 applicants. " So within probably four days, I drove down to Naples, and actually, I sat down with Rocky, Nish, Nimish, and my boss, everybody, all at once.

That's kind of a big deal. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, just kind of laid it on them, and they just had no choice after that. Yeah, and that was it.

They're like, "How do we not hire this guy? " Exactly. So I just hit my five year mark this month. Five years.

Five years. No parole. Good for you. Good for you.

Well, you can't see, the problem here is you just kind of like wrapped it up really fast. We got to talk about other stuff, you know? So like, how did you wind up in Austin? Was it just because?

Where did you start originally? Let me ask you there. Where were you born? All right, so it's kind of a long story, but...

Good! Well, we got time. Yeah, yeah. We got time.

We're only 12 minutes in. I was born and raised in a little town south of Boston called Cohasset. Oh, very nice. Just to kind of paint a picture, it was the quintessential Dennis-Amena-Saipa community.

Yeah. Just to give you an example, if you were riding your bike down the street with a helmet, a cop would pull over and give you a ice cream ticket to the Strawberry Parfait. That's nice. Oh.

Why the hell would you leave that town? Well, my parents stopped getting along and got divorced. My mother brought us to, when I say us, my younger sister and I to a little town east of Dallas called Texarkana in Texas. I mean, that is a significant change.

Oh, completely. Completely. It was a huge culture shock. So why did she decide to move to Texas?

Well, she's originally from there, so she had some family support, you know, when she brought us back. That's awesome. Yeah, so when I got there, I learned a lot of things. I learned what a cracker was, you know, after school I went back and I said, Mom, what does this mean, what does that mean?

And she said, well, they're just bad words that, you know, that people use. Like you weren't exposed to anything. No, I didn't. It was like you were literally living in a bubble, getting ice cream from the police.

So, you're in Texas, you're outside of Dallas, and then you just kind of find your way to Austin, I mean, there's a big... So, growing up in Texas, I, you know, obviously, I had a good amount of friends that I met and created over the years. So, I actually went, my sophomore year of high school, I moved to Tampa. I went to Tampa.

My father was living there at the time. He had expanded his business down to Tampa. And I said, you know, come on down. And I said, well, I'll give it a try.

So I moved to Florida, finished up high school, and then-- So you're really young. I mean, you're not young. Yeah, yeah. So, and then I went to FSU and finished up FSU in 2006.

Yeah. So how many years did it take you to get to-- Do you got a degree? Oh, so you did it in the right team? Yeah, yeah.

I was actually very lucky. I had support from my parents to go to college. But I can remember my old man telling me, "You only got four years, pal. " So I made sure that I finished up in time.

Right. So, but to answer your question, I had some friends that had moved down to Austin, and once I graduated college, the Florida market was horrible. It was right in the midst of the recession, and that's when I moved to Texas and got the job with Miller Course. So, it's been this back and forth between Texas and Florida for the most part, but more so in Florida I've lived compared to every other place.

So I was pretty much just hanging out on an air mattress at my buddy's place in Austin. No kidding. Yeah. Having some fun.

So like what year was that around? 2010-ish. Okay. I mean, that's right when Romo was starting.

I mean, could you imagine if he started off in that office in Austin? That'd be so funny. There'd be no Danny Vasquez. No Danny Vasquez.

He wouldn't even exist. No, I mean, you know, realistically. Would have been no koi, it would have all just been Mike Wasp. No koi, it would have just been Mike Wasp.

Sales Association in Roma. Roma Craft Wasp. Roma Wasp. Roma Wasp.

Roma Wasp. You could have made a cigar, predicate date, or not predicate date, but whatever, the substantial equivalency, yada yada. Called the Wasp Burrito. Wasp Burrito.

Wasp Burrito. Everything would be wasps or something. Are you hungry? I don't know.

Are you thinking about burritos? No, they just made a new cigar called the Weaselito. Weaselito. Oh, okay, gotcha.

small half alright so what else do you want to talk about? because he just gave you his life well we can just jump to the questions within 17 minutes I mean the guy's kind of traveled everywhere alright we have questions we ask everybody if you want back up in Texas just for the record for whatever reason like oh we decided to go back and you know rep fucking Rocky there maybe Danny doesn't work out And then take Mike back there. How's he not going to work out? He's, you know.

I don't know. I guess. There's always a chance. You know, he does come to the floor.

Not that I don't like Danny. Danny's a great guy. Put in that disclaimer, yeah. Don't get all angry.

You won't get anything. I'll get nothing. You're going to see him at the show, he's going to yell at you. Are we done with the questions now?

Yeah. Okay, here we go with the questions, Mike. What one person, living or dead, would you like to have a cigar with? I'm literally scratching my head here.

That's good. We need like game show music. Can we come back to that one? No.

You want like a pass? No, no, no. We can just come back to it. There's no pass?

I like that you went back to the book though and you haven't now. Well, I had the book last time, but I was asking them out of order and you got very upset. Ah. I did?

Yes. Yes, because actually the newest question is at the top because I ran out of the room. Well, the second question's harder than the first, Mike, so... Are you sure you don't?

I mean, so wait a second. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait. We're not gonna let...

We're gonna stick with the question. Stick with the question, yeah, yeah. We're gonna work this out. I would say off the top of my head, my...

Could be somebody famous. No, my father's father. Yeah? Your grandfather?

Your grandfather. Yeah, he was in World War II and loved cigars, big bourbon drinker. Yeah. He was a location manager for, I think, Paramount?

Yeah. Oh, cool. And became really good friends with John Travolta. He died when I was very young, so I think from all the stories that I've heard, I would like to now, at my age, sit down and talk to him and have a cigar and, you know, kick the shit.

Yeah, I'm sure that'd be pretty cool. So how did you find your way into Edwards? Like, were you a cigar guy? Well, so when I was younger, my dad used to smoke Ashton.

And I didn't think at the time that he was actually counting his cigars, so he knew I was taking them. It's not like vodka, you can just put water in that bitch or something. No, no, not at all. So I didn't really know what I was doing, but I had enough experience watching my father, you know, a couple puffs into it, and then that was about it.

Right. So you steal a couple of your dad's cigars? Yeah, so I used to steal his cigars when I was younger. Awesome.

Yeah, but then there was a, there was a time in college where I wasn't really smoking cigars, it was, uh, Other, and then, and then, uh, The experimental years. Yeah, so then when I got out, when I got out of college and I started working, I, that's when I started to kind of dive into cigars, but not, not really all that serious until I went to Edwards. Um, I got to give them kudos because they took a lot of time. A guy named, uh, Bret Hart, who does not work there now, but, um, Was he formerly of the WWE?

Yeah, was he the rest of them? No, no. Did he put you in a sharpshooter? Sleeper a few times.

So yeah, he just spent so much time developing my palate and figuring out what I liked and having me try new cigars, and that's when I started diving into it. So you were smoking, but not aggressively smoking, and then you kind of went into Edwards. More socially. A place to hang out.

Yeah. Socially, people to talk to. And that eventually turned you into a job. Yeah.

And actually, Gordon has a son that used to play football with my little brother. Okay. So I knew of Gordon when I lived in Texas and had met him a time or two. But then when I moved back, that's when I started really getting into it.

Okay. Cool. Why'd you close your book? I didn't want to hold it open in case he saw the questions.

Are you done? Am I boring? It's just the one. It's just the one.

This is good. This is good. What's the best piece of advice anyone ever gave you? My old man once told me that no matter how much education you have, if you're not going to work hard, you won't get anywhere.

Yeah. And I just said I completely agree with that statement. It's got me to where I am right now. Okay.

That was pretty good. You answered that one pretty quickly. He saw it. See, I should have shut the book sooner.

There is no friggin' way he could have seen that one. He has very good eyes. They're also manicured with mustache and clothes. He's blocked by a computer and a salboard.

He had LASIK surgery to get his eyes done special so he could see. What's your favorite cigar, Michael? Oh, it's another Michael. I didn't even catch it.

No, three Mike's. I'm gonna say the Rocky Patel Sun Grown Maduro. Okay. It was the decade, but the Sangro Maduro has been definitely, yeah, one of my favorites.

All right, what do you want to add? Am I the only one smoking right now? Apparently, yes. All right, so I'm smoking the Rocky Patel San Andreas.

You want to do like a little... A little plug? Yeah. You want to tell anybody about this?

Yeah, sure. So, it's part of our vintage series. Shameless plug. We have the 1990, the '92, the '99, and the 2003.

We released the 2006 San Andreas from our boutique factory in Nicaragua at the last IPCPR. It is an 11-year-aged San Andreas Maduro with a Connecticut broadleaf binder and a Nicaraguan blend. Gotcha. Okay.

Now, we can't let you off the hook with what's your favorite cigar, this is the brand I represent, this is my favorite cigar. Sure, I knew this was coming. So now you have to do what's your favorite cigar that's not in the Rocky Patel portfolio. The Padrón 64.

Yeah. Is there a particular size, Maduro or Natural? I favor the Natural, but I'm really trying to get more into Maduro's, so I bought a box of Maduro's not too long ago. Did you pay full retail for that?

I have some sources. I hope so, if you're in the industry. Yeah, of course. So what size Maduro did you pick up?

I picked up the Robustos. Yeah. I think next time I'll go with the Toro size, but Robusto is, I don't know, I prefer Toros. Right.

But if I'm trying something out for the first time, buying a box the first time, I usually go with a smaller size. I dig the 85th and the 50th Maduros and the Padroles. I think those are badass. All right, final question?

Are we already on the fifth? We're just getting flying through this. No, no, no. Yes.

There were three, now there's four, and actually the fifth one is how do people get a hold of you. Oh, okay. So yeah. Okay, now what fictitional character would you like to have a cigar with?

Mm-hmm. Fictitional. Yeah. I'm a deep thinker, so, you know, this stuff takes time for a bit.

Okay, well, we'll just shut it around. So, Michael, you went to Virginia with it. Very nice. That's good.

We already talked about that, Mike. I'm just filling time with why Michael thinks. That's kind of the fun of it. Answer the question!

I don't like the long, skinny line here. There's no noise on the screen. You know, maybe I would have a cigar with my alter. I have a cigar with my alter ego, Johnny Bravo.

Yeah? Yeah. There you go. Oh, there is a bit of a resemblance.

It's fantastic. Look at that. You know what's really awesome about that question is you really get so many different answers. What kind of cool answers have you gotten in the past?

Oh, we've gotten a bunch, man. John Carney was a character from an ad from a shop his dad used to work at. Yeah, they used to have a pipe. The Beefmaster or something like that.

Which is pretty cool. We had a couple cartoon characters. Somebody said Fred Flintstone, or did he say Fred Flintstone, and then he, uh... He might have.

Yeah. He might have. It's all over the place. It's movie characters, Scarface, we had a Scarface before.

Yeah. So that's pretty cool, that's pretty diverse. Alright, so what's the next... Do you want to tell people how they can get a hold of you?

Yeah, Instagram handle. Instagram handle, Facebook handle. Yeah, I've got an Instagram here. It is, let's see, I know it off the top of my head, but I just want to make sure.

You don't want to screw it up? It is rpcigars_wasp. Very nice. Very nice.

So, can you give us, you know, we wanted to start incorporating like a status update is how we're doing with viewers and stuff. Do you have that information by any chance? Not here in front of me, no. On Podbean, we're about 2,400 some change downloads, we're about 23, 24 followers on Podbean.

I mean, 83% of the people on iTunes have subscribed and have listened to the show. What about a unique country? Do we got a new unique country? Oh, we've picked up Mexico, actually, this week.

Oh, Mexico. And our fourth biggest one was Jordan. I think Jordan has taken quite the job. It must have been David Blanco's stuff he was yelling at him in the microphone.

I don't know. That's incredible. It's like, obviously, the United States, and then we're big in England, and then it's Nicaragua, And then like Jordan is like number five. Awesome.

We're number five on Podbean and Cigar Related Podcast. Okay, so we're doing well. We're doing well on Podbean. iTunes is not so good.

I think we're number 18 last time I checked. Yeah, it's all right. We'll get there. It's a bigger audience.

We'll get there. Bigger audience on iTunes. And then Google Play and Spotify where you can also find us don't give any information. I don't know.

Nothing. Nothing. I hate them. Okay.

But you can listen to us there. So you can't hate them entirely. Okay. We do play, I play the Spotify through the shop in the morning, on the day after the show.

Do you? Yes. Except the one we just played, 'cause I had to listen to that one like seven times. I don't want to hear that one again.

All right, cool. But, uh, yeah. Well, uh, I guess that this... That would be it this week.

Thank you, Mike, for coming in. I hope it wasn't too bad. Yeah, no, it was great. Thanks for having me.

I appreciate it. You have fun. You know, you're a good guy. We love him when you stop in, so thank you very much for coming in, man.

Yeah, no problem. That's it. All right, folks, that's it. Show's over.

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Show Notes

This week we continue with our Origin Series and sit down with Michael Wasp from Rocky Patel Cigars.  We follow him from New England to Texas and Texas to Florida!  Where his life literally in Gutters led him to a Long career with Rocky Patel Cigars!

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