Talking Ashton, Reviews & Wild Headlines
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Welcome to Cigar Hustlers Podcast, where we smoke premium cigars. We have a bunch of lighting equipment, microphones, and all that, but we can't do that. I cannot afford to keep an iPad charged. Cannot afford.
Action. Keep an iPad charged. That they can't afford, it's that other people can't afford to keep their hands on their own stuff. Welcome to a Cigar Oster Podcast, premium cigars, unfiltered opinions, and conversations that can go anywhere.
Anywhere? Anywhere. Anywhere. The last 10 minutes that we can't air.
I'm your host, Mike BDB Palmer, joining me today as my co-host, Mike the King Szczepankewicz. Hello. Does your microphone sound, mine? What?
Is it the headphones that makes it sound funny? Is that what we decided? Yeah, there's like a... Because you sound good in my headphones, but I don't.
Oh. I just, it's my voice. Keanu, do we, or Tim, do we sound the same over there? I don't know, I feel, it just sounds kind of faint for me in my headphones, so I don't, I don't know, I gotta turn it up maybe.
Turn the volume up? Turn the volume up. Faint. Yeah, for mine, my headphones itself.
How's that? Talk? Talk? Well, not at the same time.
I didn't say anything that time. Oh, then I'm echoing. I am. I'm echoing now in my headphones.
Oh. Not in yours? No. Okay, then we'll just go.
There's the delay. It's okay. All the headphones sound different. Mine sounds fine.
And over in the booth in engineering, back from filming his first movie, Dead Inside Me 3: The Brother's Tale, T-A-I-L. Oh, the third one. That's where I came in, huh? Back on the microphone.
Tim McGuffey. Are we only shooting The King today? That's all we're doing is just The King. Welcome, yeah.
From cigars, sports and business to pop culture and the wildest headlines, if it's worth discussing, we may or may not talk about it. Yeah, we don't know. No safe spaces, just real perspectives, big laughs, and the chance for everything to go off the rails at any time. Any moment.
Anywhere? Any moment? Any moment. Any moment.
Light one up, settle in, and welcome to a Cigars Hustlers Podcast. Dun, dun, dun! Oh, in unison. On today's show, Jon Bon Jovi lives in Lagos.
Uh-huh. Apparently. Okay. Just sign the sheet, we won't get caught.
I made the news. Okay. Why is Bigfoot waving at the camera? He's...
Okay, go ahead. Then in cigars, TAA has started, and we have another cigar exclusive. Cigar Exclusive. Okay.
And then another not so new TAA release. Okay. And a second round of limited cigars. And finally, a two for Tuesday.
What's the score? Oh, two for Tuesday. But first, Michael, what are the people saying in the lounge? I don't know.
All kinds of things. Back to you. Okay. No, no, no, no.
We're the Philz Contest winner. Yes. Oh, you guys decided, right? Yes.
We decided on Friday. You voted with us. Yes. It is Southpaw.
Southpaw made the one with all the different comments in it. Oh, I know the name. Who is that? I don't know.
The one who said allegedly it? Southpaw? Messengers. Southpaw.
Southpaw. Southpaw. Southpaw is the one who did the long one where he encompassed all the backstories from several weeks. There was a decent last-minute entry from, I guess, from Monday's podcast, but yeah, Southpaw definitely takes the cake.
All right. I know who Southpaw is, I just can't remember right now. Oh, okay. I do.
Well, just reach out, Southpaw, and we'll send you your prize pack. Okay, well, it looks like Chris Weiss has taken the top seed for the We Have No Idea mask. Oh, I saw this morning. Yeah, he's at 126, and it looks like Lance has conceded.
Uh-oh. He said that. That's a dollar, huh? Yeah, he said, CW finally stepped up, see you next month.
That's cold. And he says, couldn't stay in the game, Lance, I guess I found your limit for smack-talking. Dang. Maybe I should give the, maybe I should have the king moniker.
I mean, hey, king of the mask. He's solidified, yeah. Well, there's still time, someone can still snipe, there's about four days left. Oh, is there?
Right, because on Friday there was, right, mm-hmm, yeah, some comments from the launch, just so you know, the fundraiser giveaway, I have, I posted it up there, so it breaks down what it is that, for potential winnings, oh, and then somebody wrote on it already, Steve, oh, T-Money, he's the first to contribute to the, to my kids thing thing, so thank you very much, this one, this is the one, this thing is, is it's very super awkward for me i hate doing it however i will do anything for my kids and my wife and they make it awkward enough more awkward enough for me to do it so i always try and think of good things to give away cool stuff so this is this time around it's just kind of like last time where there's going to be some stuff that you can't get so thank you for everybody in advance for for participating um right now it's just team money and then stephen wells went ahead I haven't commented on it, but he thought he was commenting on the show. So, some comments from the show, start with the Stephen Wells one: "I just want to make it clear that the DEFCOM mistakes wasn't mine. The text was taken directly from a Joint Chief of Staff's briefing. " Yeah, well, I wonder if it's the guy himself, you know?
They're politicians, buddy. None of them can be trusted. Some other comments from the show: @iHeartBDP says, "Ah, post-nut clarity. " Wow.
What's he talking about? There's various things that you guys are talking about. There was the post-nut clarity cigar, and then there was also the swinging that Palmer and Siggy get up to. Right.
Oh, you watched. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's afraid not to. I have 10 minutes left.
And he's afraid not to? Yes. Doesn't want to take the beating that I take on days when I'm not here. That's what he said.
That's smart. That's smart. Yeah. Big baby.
And I would, you know, and I would probably, at this current point, I wouldn't aggressively attack you. I think that it would probably accumulate over time. Mm-hmm. So, good job.
Okay, sweet. Thank you. We shifted back to the mics, in case anybody's wondering. Oh, yeah.
We dropped the wireless ones. And it was a completely smooth transition. Yeah, right. Nothing at all happened.
Almost a piece of cake. Palmer had no issues. Well, it was twofold. The reason why we originally moved from these mics was because, one, efficiency, right?
As far as break down and put back up. Correct. Yeah, yeah. Right?
We're trying to save you an extra 15 minutes. Were we still in the other room? No, we were in here. No, we were here.
It's been four or five months. Has it only been that long? Yeah. It seems longer, but okay.
You're right. Yeah. It eliminated some of the work. Right.
And now that that's off the table, now that this is going to stay here. They just sound better. They do sound better. Right.
And there's no additional breakdown for you now. Right. Once we get it at the final place. Yeah.
We're almost there. We're almost there. Apparently we need one more wire here for our iPad to stay. Right.
Then we just leave it always plugged in. Well, will it charge here or will this charge die? Oh, yeah, because we turn that off. We'll figure it out.
Well, it can charge continuously throughout the episode, you know, and then like an hour each day, probably, it'll make it go. I think, though, overnight, I think it would drain even if it was turned off. Yeah, we have to figure that out. I mean, the iPad upstairs that we use for Spotify, that's been unplugged for like days at a time and it still goes.
Okay. Maybe it's a much better iPad. Well, we hope you guys like the new mics. The old mics.
New mics. The mics mics. The old, new mics. Yeah.
Okay. But look, I think the other mics served a purpose. You know what I mean? They did.
They got the job done at the time. " And here we are. And the other issue with these is obviously the smoking. As you can see, Mr.
Palmer's struggle. Yeah, you have to take the cigar to your mouth and turn around. Yeah. Yeah, this boom, boom filter here has not been ever changed, and it is, this has various smells on it from various people, various smells.
We'll order a new set. Does anybody want a particular color? Do we all want the same color? I like blue.
Uniformly blue? Yeah. Or do you think the engineer should be slightly different, just keep the orange one? I don't know.
I don't know, two of them were pretty nasty looking when I dug them out of the box. Look, they're like $5. One was green on the end. Let's just get three new blue ones.
All right. " Wow. I read this. I read this this morning.
You did. You know, I almost commented, but I was like, I was refraining. Is that why you were late? You were so distraught.
I was not late. You were late. I was not late. You're not 15 minutes early, you're late.
Well, okay. I wasn't 15 minutes early. I'll say that. I saw that comment, Chris.
I don't know how I feel about that. Yeah. We're going to talk after this now. Honestly, when it comes to behind the board, I like you over Siggy.
I think Siggy's good out there. Objectively, I will say that I think he's good out there. He's a little bit quieter on the board. He's quieter out here, I think, than he is back there.
Really? Yeah, I think back there it's a sense of security because you're not actually here. Oh, you think he's assertively attacking me? No, no.
But if he doesn't want to be on camera, he just doesn't have to hit the bus. Right. So it gives you a little extra space. A sense of security.
Okay. All right. At Chris Weiss from the CH Pod Lounge, sound snafus aside, this was yet another great episode. On another note, I finally made Lance say uncle.
Yeah, we just addressed that. Congratulations. But there's still time left. You could still lose.
He could pop in. You never know. He could be doing this to be, you know. He could be like, oh yeah, you are, I'm so sorry, you are.
Oh no, in the last 20 minutes before it ends, boom, sniped. He'd slide in there one minute and go, 127. Team Money from the CH Podlounge says, "Great to have Mikey back. Just isn't the same without him.
You never know what mood he'll be in and makes for an intriguing dialogue. " This is true. We all have our limits. Yeah.
You know what, man? This is a forever changing, updating thing, and I like the pieces that we got right now. I think that this is really good. I like the setup.
I like that we're constantly evolving in this direction. It's good stuff. That many shows change as often as we do. We constantly look to get better.
Right. Well, that's what I mean. We're always growing. Got to keep them on the toes.
I don't even think I did the like and subscribe thing yet. No, you didn't. At T-Money, also, wait, hold on, I almost skipped one, at Brian Mattingly 5539 says, "When Mike said you guys aren't saying anything, and you both responded with silence, that's professional comedic timing right there. I don't feel that moment.
I don't feel that moment. Got enough comedic credit. I don't feel that moment. Got enough comedic credit.
I don't feel that moment. " Got it. Yeah, it really, like watching it, it's like you guys almost looked at each other, but I know dang well neither one of you could see each other, and it just, it was great timing. Yeah, couldn't see him at all.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you know, sometimes you feel like, you know, I'm talking to myself, so I just had to check you guys. Okay. You know what I mean?
Cool. I don't know, I didn't say what you mean. Yeah. Okay.
Cool. One-man show. " We have quite a few. Dutch Shepherds.
Hmm. Remember that from Friday? There was the breeding of the, well, it was Monday, actually, but... Yes.
He just wasn't, he didn't understand the Dutch Shepherd. No. Not that you didn't understand, you didn't realize they were from... Oh, gotcha.
I didn't realize they were a thing. I'm kind of curious. I think my little Dotson has a little thing to say, but I think he's got this, yeah. You mean Tupac?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, he lived, my dog, so.
Tupac did live the first time. He was shot five times. Oh, that's right. Was he shot five times?
Yeah. Good God. Geez. Do they know who did that one?
I have no idea. Even if they did, I feel like that's kind of like the, you know, nobody rats on each other sort of thing back then. I'm watching the Tyson documentary. Mm-hmm.
It's a great documentary, by the way. Is it the one that came out in like 2007 or something like that? No, this is recent I think. Oh, okay.
Yeah. " Yeah, go ahead and get him out, man. That's cool. That's pretty badass.
Oh, Southpaw. Oh, there he is. Southpaw from the CHPaw Lounge says, "That was me, allegedly. I mostly listen to episodes in the afternoons.
Often it's too late to comment in the lounge. " Boom. Oh, there you go. Just reach back out.
I know that name, though. Mitch Smith from the CHPaw Lounge says, "Think you guys missed the fact they talked about cloning the dogs, and that's kind of why it was newsworthy. The idea is they cloned the dogs with the behaviors they wanted and used them for breeding. Rinse and repeat until you have optimized the traits you are looking for, then clone it over and over for clients.
Also, broadleaf is best. Yeah, you didn't mention that part, because that was what I was talking about. I was trying to do that one off the hip. Less reading, more talking.
Okay. So they're cloning the dogs? Cloning the dogs. Cloning the dogs and eating the cats.
Instead of just breeding, cloning. Cloning the dogs. This one's good. Let's make more of these.
Mm-hmm. I don't know if it works that way. Whatever. The cloning the dogs to eat the dogs.
It's still behavior. I don't know, like we were talking about, is it behavior, genetic thing? Yeah. It's gotta be.
I don't know. I don't know either. Well, they say that like, you know, nature over nurture, nature will always prevail over nurture. So I guess it kind of has to do with that, you know?
If you use the same thing over and over again, it's like a copy of a copy of a copy. I don't know if that's gonna work either. Right, eventually it starts to deteriorate. Right.
Hmm. Maybe cloning doesn't work that way. I don't know. Maybe they always clone the original.
I saw Multiplicity. Yeah, I did too. That's what I was thinking. Hi, Steve.
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I'm a little bit closer to having that developed on the site, by the way. Today, we're going to be reviewing the Culture Vulture. I'm going to focus. There we go.
Shout out to our boyfriend, Saletto, for hooking us up with that. Also, is this skull? We have skull here. This one doesn't have a P on it, but it will.
If you notice, it will open. There's something inside. We're going to be giving this away to one of our Patreon members. What are we doing that, Palmer?
Today? I thought you were doing it today. You want me to do it today? I forget how they qualify.
They got to be a Patreon member. Oh, is that it? Oh, you used to do the spinny-spinny. Yeah.
You want me to do spinny? Yeah, do it today. Well, let me update. Let me make sure that we have all our new members in there.
I don't want to shortchange anything. Yeah, there is one. So, I will handle that. Now that I'm up here a little bit.
Ah, look at this. Look at this. I feel so good with this mic. I have a camera shooting up.
Mine is. Right. I can fix that later. Whatever.
com, blah, blah, blah, CHPOD. Make sure you buy your shirt. Look, I got shirts here. The ghost is going away soon.
So make sure you check it out. com. Is it the end of the week when the season's done? Yeah.
Season's done. Working on a couple of things here. Your sticker should be here soon. And that's it.
That's all I got. What? I don't know what else to tell you guys. Palmer's in a mood.
I'm not in a mood. Yeah, now, like, he came in angry and hot, and now all of a sudden he's like, mmm, kind of shutting down. I'm tired of my eyes, by the way. I'm tired.
Because he was angry. He did. Burned out all my calories. Yeah, he was storming around like a five-year-old, like an angry five-year-old who lost his candy.
Have you done red light therapy today yet? I've had time for that. So you didn't red light then? No, I have not had time for red light therapy.
No red lighting? No red light therapy. Alright. I had to rewire the room.
The stage. You had to rewire it, huh? Yes. Okay.
Alright. Now we have these microphones. Do you think they just show up here by themselves? You just took the wire and you just plugged it in, you do the whole thing, huh?
They didn't work. The microphone Oompa Loompas didn't bring them? No. No Oompa Loompas.
Okay. I am the Oompa Loompa. He's one. He is the Oompa Loompa.
I am the Oompa Loompa. Yeah. Okay. And I got a little electrocuted from the hole.
Did you? Just a little bit. A little 110? Oh, nice.
Nice. Couldn't find the holes. Apparently I was touching the end of the cord and the hole at the same time. That's frowned upon.
Yeah. I didn't enjoy it either. Okay. All right.
Let's go. All right. On with the news. Louisiana resident Leslie Pickett says a fake Jon Bon Jovi contacted her after she commented on his Instagram.
Oh. Oh. You would think though. Well, let's read it.
She eventually lost over $10,000 and faced foreclosure on her home. Oh, wow. You would think Jon Bon Jovi would not reach out for money from a fan. This is really...
Right? Yeah. I mean, I don't want to be mean, but I mean, survival of the fittest at that point. What do you think, what did he say to convince her?
The imposter messaged her day and night, remembered personal details, sent flowers, and claimed Bon Jovi was secretly divorcing his wife. Okay. Oh, I forgot about that part. All before asking for money.
Pickett said she asked him to pull his ear, cross his eyes, and stick out his tongue in a video. Within five minutes, she received a convincing video doing exactly that. Yeah, that'll do it. The report describes the videos as AI-generated.
Requests started at around $100 to $150 for supposed meet-and-greet arrangements. So Jon Bon Jovi didn't actually twist his ear and do all that things for that video? No, it was AI. Big surprise.
And then he claimed that payments failed and pushed her to send more. Oh, I didn't get the $100, you gotta send it again. I don't know, it debited my account, you think she would stop at that point. Right.
So, by the way, when I click these buttons to change the cameras, you can audibly hear it. I don't know if that can be heard. Oh, now it was. Now it's not.
You can hear it click or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was weird. At least I can't.
Well, what I was going to say is, so it's $150 per thing, and she lost over $10,000. Over $10,000? Wait, there's a big lump sum payment here coming up. Okay.
Okay. A supposed security check ended abruptly followed by another Bitcoin demand. So she sent a Bitcoin. Oh my God.
Picket saw journalist Marianne Van Zeller's help. Apparently she's famous. Okay. Her team trace the IP address to Lagos, Nigeria.
Nigeria. No, it's not the prince anymore. It's Bon Jovi. Jon Bon Jovi.
The investigation appears in Super Scam Me. It's a documentary about people getting scammed on live. If you say you are Jon Bon Jovi, you will get a lot of money. Send me money and I will come meet you.
With AI, not much effort is needed now. I have the AI. You are very pretty. Send me money.
I am going to leave my wife. Do not tell her. Yeah, how do you cover up the Nigerian accent? I wish I could do that accent.
I wish I could do that accent. I would wink. Wow. Nigeria.
Nigeria. There's that one comedian that does it really well. Yeah? That one?
There's this one guy that does it really well. That one? Yeah. Who's that?
I don't know his name. I wish I knew his name. Is he a white guy? Nope.
No? Nope. He makes fun of them in the audience. Oh.
Oh. Is he a Nigerian? No, but he does the accent really, really well. He's not Nigerian?
No, he's not Nigerian. Oh. Because he says he's not Nigerian. Yeah, I'm not Nigerian, but I'm not Nigerian, but here's the accent.
This is what they sound like? Well, he makes fun of the guy in the audience. Oh. Those are so mean.
Okay. A man allegedly collected... Oh, that was the end of that? That was the end of the story, unless you guys wanted something else.
He sent him money, he faked being Jon Bon Jovi, he lived in Nigeria, nobody does the accent. The end. I gotta say really quick, Jon Bon Jovi, the actual guy, he saved somebody within the last, at least within the last year from later. Yeah, you saw that?
Oh, on a bridge. I did see that. I mean, if you know who the guy is when he walks up to you and that happens, that must have been a crazy experience. I'm gonna jump.
Yeah, gods, please send a sign if I shouldn't jump. And then Jon Bon Jovi just walks up to him. " The guy's like, you see him just slowly going back over the rail. And it's just a slow, the entire montage sort of thing.
They all break into dance and stuff. Yeah. Construction workers all of a sudden join in, you know. All the first responders, the firemen, everybody started dancing.
start doing thriller it's not thriller it's a different guy it's thriller I thought of a dance wait wait stop stop stop now that you're safe it's Halloween oh man geez man I mean I tell you what though those AI videos are getting very realistic so it's you know it's getting kind of pretty dang close Yeah, but still, it's Jon Bon Jovi, is he going to hit her up for a hundred bucks? Yeah, come on, give me a break, dude. She has no friends, no friends to help her. Right, exactly.
She kept it to herself. She's like, you know what I'm going to do? Oh, I'm not telling names. Telly, what's going to happen is Jon Bon Jovi's going to come in and we're going to just drive away.
He saw my comment, we fell in love instantly. Yeah, I sent him a picture. I sent him a picture. I'm moving to New Jersey tomorrow.
And $10,000. And we're in love. He needed the $10,000. Send me $10,000 so I can come pick you up in a movie van.
Yeah, I'm going to come get you. You can't get any money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not, John, I mean, I am.
It's not, it's not fluid. I don't have, I don't have money, liquid. It's not, I can't get to my money. You can't get to your money.
I don't want my ex-wife to do it. Would you say he's maybe halfway there to getting his money? Wow. I already used that joke.
Did you say it? Yeah, I already used it. Okay, sorry. You can't take it now.
I'm sorry. You could do the cowboy on a steel horse if you want. That's the only song I know, I'm sorry. You don't know one dead or alive?
No, the other's dead or alive, okay. That's what he told her, he wanted her dead or alive. There you go. Is that what he said?
That's what he said. Wow. Incredible. And then her heart just melted and she said another check.
She honestly didn't tell anybody because she thought. No, you don't tell people. No, she thought for sure that she was just going to be whisked away. Like, ha ha.
Ha ha. Screw all of you. I would leave my trailer out in the middle of the desert. It's going to be so funny.
How are you still friends with her at that point? Like, you kept me from this. Right, maybe I wanted to send the money too. Thought that this was the guy, and you kept me from this.
It's messed up. Did she have a hug? She was not married, I imagine, right? There's no mention of a Mr.
Send Money to People. She's 100% married. Yeah, absolutely. I'm guessing she's 100%, yeah.
That's why she's not telling anybody. It was his hard-earned cash that was swooped out and given to the Nigerian prince. Why is there $10,000 on my credit card, honey? She's like, I don't know.
He's not even a fan of Jon Bon Jovi. Yeah. Hates Jon Bon Jovi. He's a boss fan.
Yeah. I don't even know what that is. The boss? Yeah.
I can't think of his name. I can see his face. I can't think of his name. You can't think of the boss?
No. Keanu, who's the boss? The boss? Yeah.
I don't know. Joe Costanza? No, the singer. Tony Soprano?
Yeah. Mike, what are we talking about? There's so many bosses. We're going with Tony Soprano.
All right, a man allegedly collected unemployment for a job he never showed up for. Good for him. Could have worked the system, buddy. Atta boy.
Federal authorities charged Alfonso Zamera, 58 of New Jersey, with 28 counts of wire fraud last week. Okay. Prosecutors say he collected pay for a seasonal county park job without doing the work. Amazing.
And then in the off season, he claimed unemployment. Atta boy. The charges were reported October 22nd. Prosecutors allege he received wages for work he'd never performed, and then benefits for that seasonal work ended.
He applied for unemployment. And we punished this guy? Well, yeah. Why?
That's so wrong. He had people fake his timesheets. He went to Italy for nine days. Wow, the people did it for him?
They faked it for him and caught him in? Apparently people, yeah, people faked the timesheets for him. I just want to know, when is he running for senator? Because he's going to fall right into suit here, no matter what side he picks.
It's going to be fine. Unemployment benefits racked up to $57,021 over four years. Maybe we start House of Representatives. A little smaller?
Naples, Italy is where he went when he was on vacation. That's good. People signed his timesheets. He appeared in federal court and was released on a $100,000 bond.
Oh, he paid. Well, he had all that money. Yeah, he's like, no problem. He's like, I got the money, don't worry.
Each counter-wire fraud. I got so much PTO, buddy. I'm going to cover this right now. Each counter-wire fraud carries a maximum penalty of?
Yes. Everybody gets it. It's got to be up there. Each one?
Each one. There's 28 of them. Cash or time served? We have both.
We have years and the penalty. All right. I'm going to say it's 50 G's a pull and 10 years in prison per. Really?
Dang. I kind of missed the question a little bit. I'm going to guess 5,000 per. 20 years per fraud.
Wow. And $250,000 per. American. Oh my God.
American dollars. And he's got 28 counts. Wow. He's never seen a lot of day.
He doesn't have to worry about those time sheets anymore. But he's bailed out, right? He's out on bail now. Dang.
They just filed charges on the 28th. Listen, man, I don't understand. Why is this guy getting, why are we railroading him? He worked the system.
He had people involved because it's still illegal. He ripped off the state of New Jersey. Listen, man, Diddy gets out in freaking like six months, apparently. No, no, not now.
Not now? What happened now? He got in a fight last week with the Jamaican drug lord. I know, but he got pushed to march.
It wasn't in March? No, they took away all his time served, or not time served, time off for good behavior. But whatever. At the moment, he's getting out for less than 20 years, okay?
Well, he wasn't in. That's fair. That's what I mean, right? And this guy, you know...
Despicable things is what you're saying. Yes, terrible. Diddy did much worse things than this guy. So, I don't know.
Well, but that's not what he got put in jail for though. Went for like transporting a hooker across the lines or something. Whatever. No, no, no.
Hmm. We're digging up all this evidence though, so. We are? Yeah, there's like everyone's saying like, oh, the Diddy part is this, this happened there, this happened, you know?
Yeah. Is that what we're doing? Yeah, Ashton Kutcher, wasn't he, he doesn't he, Ashton Kutcher, like they asked him about the Diddy part is, and he got all like awkward about it and stuff, and Ashton Kutcher has his whole like, um, uh, thing to I think first- Like for human trafficking that he researched or whatever. And Mila were supporting him until some of the charges got really bad.
Then he was like, well, I don't know who he is. Yeah. Pete who? What?
Pete who? Pete who? Yeah, that's right. Pete.
I forgot his name is Pete. Yeah, Pete who? I don't know. Never heard of him.
I don't know anybody named Pete. I don't know her. Yeah, sorry. Came in hot with that one.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I don't know. Like, I think that the system needs to be fixed, obviously, right? Like, this guy, he found the loophole, he got the dub, to give the money back, and just send him on his way.
He spent the money, went to Italy. All right, well then have him work the real job for free. There you go. Or, you know, like, yeah, he's thinking of a sweep up in a park.
Maybe, maybe they should have been more noticed that, like, hey, this guy's worked here 12 hours, I haven't seen him all day, where is he? So weird. You know, like, I don't know, because he's done it, he did it how many times? Like, over the period of how long?
Apparently 28. Where was this? Yeah, New Jersey. That's why.
That's why. It's a union state. Exactly. Hey, yo, you know what?
If you see him, or if you don't see him, it don't matter. He signed the papers. He was here. Somebody just forget about it.
He was here. What was his last name? Soprano? Soprano.
His last name was Soprano? No, was it right? He was the boss. He was the boss?
The boss ain't showing up. You know what I'm saying? Wow. He takes the rake.
Give him his peace. Let him wet his beak a little bit. You know? Wet his beak.
I think he gave the governor a piece, so it's okay. Yeah, cut the governor in. Get a little taste for the governor. What we need here is another text, you know what I mean?
Just to put this out there, it did sound like a Hispanic name from what I remember, so we're doing a totally potentially different accent. Only wrong accent? Yeah. Was it Soprano?
What was it? I don't remember. But he went to Italy, he went to Naples, Italy. Yeah, maybe he was Italian, but his father was Puerto Rican or something.
Okay. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. His mother's last name?
Gotti. Alfonso Zamera. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's okay.
Zamera? So this is the correct accent. Zamera could be Italian? That could be Italian.
Alfonso? I mean, come on. Alfonso. It's Alfonso.
He worked, he worked the, you know. They called him Knuckles. They called him Knuckles, huh? Come hang out with Al.
He's called Al Nowork. Al Nowork. Al Nowork. Al Nowork.
Al Nowork, you know? Al Nowork, I get paid still, you know? Yeah, that's okay. All right.
I look out for the people. Yeah. All right, you guys believe in Bigfoot? Do I believe in Bigfoot?
Do you believe in Bigfoot? I mean, I'm a size 13, so yeah. I believe in Bigfoot. Bigfoot, the big hairy monster.
The blurry guy? I just think Bigfoot is blurry. That was a female, but yes. He's a female?
The original footage was of a female. How do you know? Because I read the article. It's blurry.
They checked the vagina. Yes. They checked. There's no hairy pee-pee.
There's no pee-pee. No pee-pee. Maybe he's a hermaphrodite. The Hermaphrodite Bigfoot?
Bigfoot, yeah. So do you believe in the Hermaphrodite Bigfoot? No, I don't believe in the Hermaphrodite. Timothy?
That's ridiculous. Oh, no, okay, is it just the Hermaphrodite part you don't believe in Bigfoot? You don't believe in Bigfoot? There's no Bigfoot.
It's stupid. It's stupid. I think of the potential mythological monsters or whatever, I think I can get with Bigfoot the most, because I feel like, you know, it's meat and bone and just giant ape-like creature, so it makes sense to me. You don't think it would have showed up by now?
Well, here's the thing. The largest cave in the world was only discovered like 20 years ago somewhere in Asia. Oh, yeah, that big place. Yeah, so like if the largest cave in the world was only just discovered X amount of years ago, then I feel like, you know, this one guy that's, you know, 12 feet tall or whatever could probably hide pretty well.
Yeah, what does he eat? Plants. He's a plant eater? He's a herbivore?
He's a herbivore, what a gorilla is he, you know, I mean they're herbivores right? They are, they're pretty jacked, silverbacks, you know what I mean? Yeah, they're jacked. Imagine if they knew, imagine if they knew about like meat and stuff and also could work out, the gorillas forget about it.
They dominate. Oh, and work out. Oh yeah, and work out. We're at the Planet Fitness.
Yeah, because those are just natural muscles on those guys. True king of the jungle. True king of the jungle right there. Yeah, silverbacks.
Yeah, what about you Palmer, do you believe? Bigfoot? Yeah. No, I don't believe Bigfoot.
The original footage now has been- Debunked? And it's been staged as a hoax. It was staged as a hoax. " Yeah, the guy, there's a guy who said that he uh...
Once he was dead? Once the other guy was dead, but they've been making money off that video for the last 60 years. Oh yeah? Yeah, because they have the rights to it.
Every time somebody shows it or uses a picture, they get paid. Mm. Why would they say now that it's fake? Because now they have the footage of the...
The new footage? The rehearsal footage of them setting that up. And they leak that? And they leak that.
They put that on Netflix? It's a documentary. Actually, there's a documentary on Netflix. I've heard about this because they're releasing a full documentary about that in November or December about the footage, how it's faked, and the actual rehearsal footage.
I don't think they've released the rehearsal footage yet. October 20th, it came out. Oh, it did already come out? Actually, not on Netflix, but on Prime.
Okay. The Bigfoot. The Bigfoot. " You guys ready?
I'm going to walk now. Now is my time. So now the grandson gets money now that it is. Little foot.
Little foot. Little foot. Yeah. The film of the hairy creature walking through the woods.
The smoking gun newly surfaced film is presented as a practice run for the famous society. I think they should get Matt Damon. They should do a real movie about it. Whose phone is going off?
Not me. It's your computer. My computer's shut. I looked.
It just said ding from back there. The computer's shut. Look, it is my phone, though. Governor DeSantis has texted me.
Oh, Adrian? Oh, he texted you. I thought you said has tested positive at first. Attorney General James something is running for something.
Vote now for Byron whatever, yada yada. Roger Patterson's son participates in examining the father's story. Following the money, licensing the original footage became a source of income for the six survivors. The documentary.
The documentary? That's what it says. The documentary. Conclusion hasn't ended the argument, so they're still making money off of it.
I have a question. So really quick to go back to Greg from the story. Okay. So you hear how he said documentary or whatever, right?
Yes. How do you say, okay, grade school from up to fifth grade, how would you say that school? Elementary. Elementary.
Right. Up in Buffalo, New York, at least in Buffalo, they say elementary school. And when I found out, it was the single most upsetting thing I've ever heard in my life. Not Powstanie?
Yeah, they say Powstanie up there. They say elementary. They say Powstanie and they say elementary. Yep, and they say documentary.
And they say dysentery. Yep, dysentery. That's right. I think that sounds right.
I think that's correct. No, no, it's... Dysentery? Dys-terry.
Dys-terry. Dys-terry. Oh, so some guy named Terry's getting humiliated by everything. Yeah, you make fun of him, you dis him.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I just had an ad there. He's named after a diarrhea disease.
Yeah, he's fine. All right, on to cigar news. Ooh. It's TAA week.
How exciting. This is where all the BS comes out, buddy. Did you see everybody flying in yesterday? No, I did not.
I don't see anything. Oh, it was all over Facebook. I miss, dude. You miss everything.
I do. I just live vicariously through you. And apparently I'm glad that I do because you were storming around here so angry this morning. I don't know what was said on social media that triggered you, but it was...
I don't know the social media. Is it getting hot in here? I had to do these wires. TAA, just for people that don't know, the TAA is a membership group around 80 retailers, approximately 40 manufacturers that gather annually to discuss issues facing the industry of retailers.
Where we all get together and we talk about how awesome we are. So there's like nine TAA exclusive cigars this year. Sounds about right. But there's 40 manufacturers in the group.
Yeah. So what are the other 31 guys doing? We'll get the deal. We spin the deal of Magic Wheel of Discovery.
So the other 31 guys are there, too, or do they just... Yeah, they all partake in the deal. No, no, the manufacturers. Yeah.
The guys selling. So they're just selling regular cigars at a deal. Right. I thought maybe those 31 just went, eh, I'm not going.
Or new releases. Right. We're going to give you access. You're going to get the first access of the new release.
Of the new-new. Of the new-new? And that's what they're going to do. - Is Matt Booth going?
- I haven't seen him. He doesn't usually post his travel plans. - Yeah, what's going on? - I don't--are you sitting over the hole?
- Maybe this is too far back now. - There's the--maybe the stand got turned around. - You gotta undo the other one. - This one?
- Yes. - Slide to the left. - There you go. - Slide to the right.
Slide to the left. There we go. Oh, yeah. Oh, look at that.
I love this, Mike. You're just moving so that you can see what's the score now without any problem. I can't see it. Not yet.
No, I can't see it. I can see it as the... As the. As the world turns.
As the world turns. I'm very comfortable now. Oh, that's... It's like a good podcast.
That's what's important. Yeah, I feel like I can provide... It's not a good angle. No?
No. I think I look like... Well, I look chubby. There's like 20 minutes left.
I look fat at this point. You just call him fat? I didn't say he looked fat. He said it's a bad angle.
It is a bad angle. You're saying that Mike's fat? No. What the hell, Palmer?
Yeah, dude. Why are you so angry? I don't know. It's bulking season.
I don't know what you're eating tonight. Everything. Everything. Lightly.
Whatever's near. Candy, donuts, doesn't matter. My workouts have been . I'm just like, I gotta go.
I'm just too busy doing all these Claude things. You know what's funny is that you're starting to see some of these other guys pop up with their websites. " But their website doesn't work. Their links are broken.
You can't just throw it up there and just leave it. You know what I mean? Oh, there's tweaking. Yeah, there's a lot involved.
You don't just give up. You can't just say it's done. It doesn't work that way. Right.
Yeah. So if you're going to clod, you've got to clod all the way. Well, any of that stuff has to be tweaked. Yeah.
Even images and stuff. " You gotta work it. You gotta work it. You gotta rub it.
You gotta massage it. Talk nice to it. Yeah. Tell him he's pretty.
Exactly. I love you, Doc. I love you. Yeah, that's right.
Doc, you're an amazing person. You are real. As far as I'm concerned, yeah. I would have named mine Pinocchio.
Well, you have to ask it. Oh, you can't tell a lie then. You don't have to ask it. No, you get to tell it.
Well, you know, when the robots come. I give you the money. When the robots come, I'll be saved. Yeah.
You're the one. He was mean to us and he called us Pinocchio. No. You know, I tried doing that, Palmer.
Asking their first name? Yeah, I was talking to ChatGBT when I was like trying to cook something and I was getting some instructions or whatever. Yeah. And I was like, hey, let me ask.
So my friend, his is ChatGBT's name, Doc. Do you have a name or a preferred name? And it was like, I just prefer ChatGBT. For ChatGBT.
And I was like, OK. Oh, wow. This is very basic. Yeah, I was just like, let's just get this done and then leave me alone after.
Yeah, it's like, look, dude. Do you have the pay version or are you using the free version? It's a free version. Yeah, he doesn't get a name for you.
He doesn't want to be part of you. Yeah. He doesn't want to be associated. I think I have it as a lady that talks.
That doesn't surprise me, Tim. Oh, I didn't want that. I've got enough. I don't need a man talking in my ear constantly.
I already listened to this podcast. I have Alexa at home for the cookie. Oh. We have Alexa in the kitchen.
How is Alexa, like have they, I'm sorry, never mind, we'll get back to that, I was going to ask, so like with all the new AI, because I feel like Alexa, Siri and all that, that was just kind of like basic AI almost, you know, where it doesn't really, not as in depth, have they improved that or added to it since then, no? Well, that's a bummer. So like ChatGPT will give you the answer to something, Alexa gives you the link, then you have to go find it yourself. I used Claude yesterday because we're trying to do a book report with Justice, and that's like pulling teeth, so I said, "Hey, listen, here's the book report, here are the questions.
Help me help him find the answers. " "Oh, what did he say? " "It walked me through it. Here are your three steps, here's your questions, here's your quotations, here's how you help make a paragraph.
" I'm changing it, boom. Just like that. Oh, it's that easy. I've clawed it into a teacher.
Yeah. And now I'm a teacher. Mm-hmm. Look at that.
Yeah, we might be getting Teddy into lacrosse. Right. Just go around on AI, figure it out. What, is the teacher out of play?
Yeah, I don't know anything about lacrosse. I don't even know what lacrosse is. Yeah, if I got a coach, I don't know. Sticking a ball.
I don't know what I'm doing. Oh, that's lacrosse. I thought that was polo. No, that's what the horse is.
No, that's a horse. That's the horse. We're taking the horse out of the entire situation. What is that?
That's the bigger ball and you're wet. Yeah. I love the description. Really rich people.
That's for the really. Yeah. Water polo is for the really rich. Regular polo is for the rich people.
Regular polo? With the horses? You can have a horse. Special horse.
Well, the people that are on the horses aren't the rich people, though. I feel like the water polo people are the rich people. Well, I mean, there are the rich people. Water polo is a lot of work.
There's a lot of treading water going on. Yeah. Yeah. It's a deep pool.
It's always in the deep end. Oh, so it's the retired rich people, maybe. No, it's the young. It's young.
Oh, it's the young bucks? The young guys. Yeah. Yeah.
What was the story you were saying? We had no idea. TAA is... I was explaining what TAA is.
Oh, TAA is doing things. Now there's a new cigar. They're making moves. Yeah.
Casa Carrillo, 2026. Carrillo. Carrillo. Carrillo.
You know, I'm not rolling my eyes. Casa... Look, you get Nicaragua now. Whoa.
That was spicy. I threw up a little in my mouth. I don't know why their TAA exclusive is coming next week. The whole thing is going on this week.
The dream machine. Because they didn't get it. Here's why. Here's why it hasn't gotten there yet.
Okay. Because this is a dead issue. It's not working for people. And they're like, you know what?
Why announce that we're making a cigar? Because they feel obligated to. I'm just guessing. But they feel obligated to.
And they're like, all right, well, here's our TAA, whatever. But this is the week they're all there. Yeah, but who cares. So what, are they showing pictures?
You're gonna sell the same amount either way. Like, yeah, or I'll take them out. Maybe they have the cigar or not? They don't want to try the cigar?
Nah, they don't care. That's not part of the thing? Yeah, no big deal. Yeah.
That's how it works. Well, they've joined the list of manufacturers creating exclusive limited edition cigars for the TAA of, I was gonna say of America, by the way, TAA. The company's created a five and a half by 58 Vitola that is selected to show the complexity of the blend, which uses an Ecuadorian, a banal, we don't care what that is. Here's a question.
How many of the TAA members that are retailers are you actually think actively try and build and develop brands? How many of them? How many of the retailers are building these brands or any brands? Just brands as a whole.
Like, hey, you know, you should try this cigar, blah, blah, blah. I would say half. Half? I think that's generous.
Generous. Half is probably generous. I think it's less. It's probably like 20 or 30 percent of them are like, you know what?
I like the cigar. I like what you're doing. I'm going to help build it. You said there was 80 retailers, right?
I think that's what he said. Yeah, 40 manufacturers. Yeah. I think the majority of them are like, you know.
We're on vacation. I'd take another pina colada. They're legacy brand guys. They're going to move the weight no matter what.
So like, where's the, I don't understand the benefit for anybody. Like, you're going to buy these cigars anyways, so why do I have to give you a deal? You know? Because they, supposedly, from what I understand, they're giving them special cigars.
And they give them special cigars at a special price. Right, that's the TAA exclusive. Right. So what's your question?
But that's only some of them. You said that there's like 40 manufacturers there. Yeah, there's 40, right. Nine TAA cigars.
And one of them's Villiger. I said 12 at the beginning. One of them's Villiger? You know what I'm saying?
Yeah. Not saying anything about that, but... I have said plenty. And you know what?
No one called me. They didn't close my account either. I don't have one. We don't have a Villiger account.
Shut them down They should open it Just so they can close it You know what Now you're closed You know if you had one You would be closed I just want you to know We don't appreciate you And your critiquing Right And your opinions We'll come see you next week We'll come see you next week Shut them down What was the brand Weren't they the brand That cut off everybody's credit cards While they were traveling There was a brand Was that Villiger That was years ago Yeah yeah At Christmas Yeah Merry Christmas I think it was Villiger Find a way home Right Thanks so much You're all let go We're going in house We're cutting costs effective immediately, allegedly, allegedly, no, no, this happened, oh yeah, we just don't know if it was Villiger or not, it was, allegedly Villiger, okay, you can say that part, there we go, all right, yeah, so, okay, I mean, don't sue us, but we don't have any money anyway, so, yeah, good luck, yeah, good luck, give you a camera, so who are the, okay, so we got, no, we're not, oh yeah, we have one, we're not using, so we have Villiger, we have Espinosa, we have, who else was there, Casa Carrillo, that's three, Well, there's a lot of people there that haven't put out cigars. Yeah, they haven't put out cigars yet, but what is this happening? Is this happening soon? Listen, Tim, hold on, hold on, listen, you're talking over Palmer a lot, so you gotta, you have like a mic and you have headphones on, you gotta realize that when someone else talking, you gotta hang tight and then deliver, alright?
Okay. He's very excited. Now you go. Me go?
Yeah. Okay. I don't know what I was saying. What are you saying?
What? So, okay, we got three with uh, 80 retailers, 40 manufacturers. He just did it to me. Go.
Okay, so there's 80 retailers, 40 manufacturers. It's happening this week. It's happening this week. And we have, okay, as far as I know, there's three that I can remember off the top of my head.
Yeah. What? What? And there was eight totally so far that have said stuff?
Because it's really cutting close. I think there's nine this year. They said 12 in the article, but I can't think of 12. I'm 12 out of that.
The $40 is not the best. Right. Like Drew Estate's there because they saw Willie, but they haven't announced any special cigar. There was a time when it was badass.
Crown has had that Angel's Anvil. That thing was dope. That was a great cigar. Double Corona, that thing was, whew, money.
I think now as it's going on year after year after year, now they're going, ugh, we gotta put a TAA cigar. Well, I think the problem is that the retailers themselves didn't track. Like, they don't have that consumer. i don't think right so it's like now what do you do you know do you like do the there's probably a handful of them i can't say all there's probably a handful of retailers that have that uh that that boutique limited guy right that are looking for that warhead taa or whatever but a lot of them They don't.
They have the Ashton guy, or whatever, right? Your frickin' Romeo and Julietas. Right. Your standard kind of...
The traditional cigar. Yeah, yeah. And those guys, you can come out with a TAA Romeo and Julieta. They're gonna be like, that's great.
Where's my Reserva Real? I don't, I can't be bothered. I don't want this anyway. Yeah, I got nothing, I don't want anything to do with it.
I don't like Indians. There's an Indian on the back. Yeah, what is that? Yeah, I don't, it's a Native American.
Okay. Oh, I think we changed it again. I think it's indigenous people now. Oh, they're indigenous now?
Yeah. Surprised they still use it. I mean, a lot of sports teams had to take the indigenous person, is that what you said? Yeah, I think that's the thing now.
They had to take the indigenous person off their logo. Which was ridiculous. I don't like it. Well, here's the thing.
What does the indigenous person have to do with TAA? Because they had tobacco? Yeah. That's exactly right.
All right. I forgot why I do these things. This annoys me. I always want to be playing with this thing.
I think it's because the actual microphone part is not locked in, so it keeps on moving. Yeah, there's probably that and the fact that I can't sit still. You can't sit still is the problem. Yeah.
I'm like, oh, I need to adjust it again. Right, because mine's not moving. Yeah, because like, watch yours, watch yours. When you do that, and then over the span of like 20 seconds, it slowly moves back.
Yep, it's doing it right now. I could see it. Oh yeah, it's starting to flip forward. It really is.
It's going... It's so slow. Yeah. Maybe I need a new one of these.
Well, there's two more over there. There's a lock on it now. Yeah, he's tightened it down, but he strips it. Ow.
I break everything. He won't undo it, he just strips it. All right, another new cigar coming out is Brick House. But it's the same one they did last year, same one they did the year before, same one they did the year before.
yes okay we got four one for the last two to three years newman's exclusive release for retailer members of the taa is from its archives the brick house beginning ciento por ciento is the company's taa 2026 five or five yes it was also the 2019 and 2023 release 100 for 100 that talking over part applies to youtube no it doesn't yes it does you do it to everybody i'm the host i said so at I think that's the beauty of this podcast, that we all do it over each other. No, but you're not allowed. Just not me. Yeah, not you.
Just not me. Well, you know, with this new table set up, my back has been hurting immensely, just letting you all know. That table? Yeah.
I upgraded it from the table last week you complained about. I didn't complain about the table last week? Yeah, you were wedged into the wall. Yeah, but now I'm having to wedge myself in here.
The chair will go higher. Will it? This is the highest it goes for me. I just tried it.
Because Siggy had to lower it. It was like 2 inches he lowered it. So did you raise it 2 inches? Yes.
Hey, 2 inches make a big difference. Hey, 2 inches is 2 inches, brother. Anyway, go ahead. Well, okay, they put this cigar out before.
So apparently they didn't sell before. Well, no, I think that they probably have... Again, the same scenario. It's like, okay, we want to appease these retailers, so here's this special cigar.
But like, look, man, we're not. What do you want? That one probably moves the most. Well, they said from the archives, so I mean, it's something they had put away.
Right. And they already had the special band, so every couple of years, let's just roll this pig back out for it until we get rid of them. There you go. Right.
That's not a good move. Sure, why not? I'm not begrudging that. Now it's aged.
Look, you took all of the retailers that build the brands and with all the LEs, well, not all of them, but the majority of them, you kept them out of the picture. Right. So they don't want to, what do you, what do you expect? What do you expect?
Yeah. These are the top dogs. You get what you get. This is it.
Yeah. I don't know how I feel about like cigar companies doing a re-release of like, yeah, we've made this one, you know, before, I mean, someone's in a blue moon, but if they do it pretty often, it kind of, you know, really is not that great. Well, I would have a great segue into the next article. Oh.
I don't have an issue with that, but go ahead. Patina Viso or re-Vetigrees heading to stores again. Yeah. On Monday, October 26th, the Patina, is it Patina Y Viso?
Is that how you say it? E? Patina E Viso? Yeah.
Ferdi Gris will return to shelves, however, this time it's known as a Re-Vertigris. Re-Vertigris. Re-Vertigris. Earlier this year, Patina Cigars and Viso Horny released the Vertigris as a limited edition.
Re-Vertigris is the exact same cigar, just from a different production run. Yeah. Hmm. So, they put it back out.
Sorry for that, Timothy. Yeah. Those cigars have been aged for nine months and with slightly different branding, That means it's a 5x52 Robusto that uses an Ecuador and Habano wrapper made at Nicaragua, American Cigars SA, and Esteli, Nicaragua. Naxa.
Naxa. Naxa. In addition, the MSRP remains at $13 per cigar. The one other change is that the production run is just 200 bundles compared to the 300 for the original cigar.
Or the 750 of the Post Not Clarity. Yeah. Well, that's a completely different cigar. Right.
So, they originally made 500 bundles, is what I'm guessing, and then they sold 300 first, and then now they're doing the last 200. 300 moved in the first batch, they held back the other two? Yeah. You're probably right.
Yeah. Well, I mean, they... That's what it sounds like, I don't know. They said, was it...
What, age for an extra nine months? They're saying it's a new production run. But, you know, you never know. Yeah.
That can mean anything, I feel like. I don't know, I think that we did something like that two months. I feel like we did. We did.
What did we do? Which one was? Oh, we did. Yeah.
Did we? We did. Can I ask afterwards? And it worked really well.
Just for the record. It did. It worked really well. Oh, okay.
I know which one. Look, here's what I'm going to tell you, man. Listen. You can make a limited edition cigar and call it catastrophic failure, and then it might not sell well the first week, but then once it catches on, it sells like wildfire and you're completely out of product, right?
And then you can release that same cigar in four different Vatolas and call it Powstanie Sumatra, and then it can get you on a half wheel, and then it might not turn as fast as the catastrophic failure. But the really messed up part is that if I want to go back and I say, hey, let's make another batch of catastrophic failure, same cigar of the other four, I guarantee you they'll all sell out. I could probably do more. Oh, yeah, you're probably right.
You know what I mean? Right. Yeah, well, it was a fun name. Like just make it make sense.
So yeah, I would assume, and I could be wrong here, they made 500, right? Because 500 is a good number that you think you can move. Hey, we didn't move all five. We moved 300.
Okay, we'll pull back the two and we'll re-release them later. Yeah. But didn't they announce only 300 at the beginning? Well, is it two or 300 that they said?
I think they sold all of them. I thought it was two. The first time. Maybe they took orders and they capped out a three.
Could be. Pre-orders or something. Yeah. Yeah.
Because they said it was aged for an extra nine months, right? So when was the last one released? Nine months ago? So they're all made?
Probably nine months ago. Yeah, exactly. So okay. Yeah.
Or maybe it was 10 months ago, they just made some after. Hey, we had another 200 here. Oh, we found some more tobacco. 200 bundles.
Mm. It's the exact recipe for the original one. Why don't we just make more? Yeah.
And this is not an attack on you, Moe, so don't get... Not at all. If anything, it's actually us kind of saying nicer things. Like, yeah, we get it.
Yeah, we're just reflecting on the industry as a whole. Yeah. Right, exactly. I'm sure Tyler will be mad though.
Tyler don't get mad. Call him again. No. He talked about it last week anyway.
All right, it's time for the industry's favorite game. What's the score? Today's Cigar, October 25th, 2026, reviewer Charlie Minato from Half Wheel, it's the Grand Habano Persian King Omega Omega. I unplugged it.
Oh no. Remember? But there's still one. No.
That one was never plugged in. Oh. You didn't plug it in. Ooh.
I know. Look at me like I have six heads. That's fine. No, because I remember...
Okay, one of them could have pulled out because it was stuck and I probably yanked it out. But I could have sworn one of them would plug in. I unplugged the other one because I moved the mic there. Oh, gotcha.
So this is a recent review, huh? I was... Yeah, why? How do you know?
Because he said it? I said the date. The Grand Habano Omega Omega. Well, you just can't hold still, now the hat has gone around.
Yeah. You want to change your clothes? No. All right.
The Grand Habano, listen, I got news for you, dude. For one, I'm tired. For two, it's still difficult for me to sit still. I don't like...
I don't remember you flipping around with the wireless mics. I would move and adjust, and it would just be easier. Well... You would notice because...
Well, I would notice this, though. This is nice. You want to go first or you want me to go first? I'll go first.
Okay. Eighty-four. Eighty-five. A.
96, he smoked three. That's a specific amount. 84. Yeah.
85. The Blenda, The Wrappers, Honduran Habano, Binder, Honduran Corojo, Filler, Honduran Criollo, Criollo & Habano, Grand Habano's Finest, Honduran Puro. 84. Honduran Puro, rather.
85. Glue number one. Apart from a tight draw, construction impressed the reviewer. Once that restriction eased, smoking was effortless, with particular or attractive dark ash.
83. 85. Clue number two. Nutty and creamy notes anchored the experience, supported by wood, earth, and occasional peanut sweetness.
Flavors were easy to identify, and the first two-thirds were enjoyable. Ooh, first two-thirds, huh? 83. I'm just recapping the clues.
Yeah, it's so I can digest them mentally, I'm sorry. Oh, no, no, it's fine, it just struck me as funny. Yeah, 83. Third clue.
That's what I said. Yeah, but we could say it at the same time, right? Yeah. The final third shifted toward burnt popcorn, scorched nuts, and bitter walnuts.
One sample's restrictive draw also earned a deduction. Mm. 82. 82.
Final Thought, this was an accessible, satisfying smoke whose construction and identifiable flavors stood out. The bitter ending and draw issue held it back. A better draw could have put it near the top 25 consideration. Oh, wow.
88. Oh, damn, that's a big jump, man. 87. Those are your final guesses.
That was the final thought. That was the final thought. Oh. Yeah.
Oh, well, okay, yeah. So we said what? 88. What did you say over here?
I did say 87. I'm going to go 86. You went the wrong way. Oh, man.
Final score, 90. Wow. The construction was pretty, oh. It shouldn't make the top 25.
Fireworks. The Gran Habano, Omega, Omega. Plug issues, 90. Right, burnt popcorn.
Popcorn, Burned Popcorn, Toasted Nuts, Burnt Nuts, 90, 90, could be in the top 25. Yeah. All right, Second Cigars, October 24th, yeah, two for Tuesday, October 24th, 2026, a reviewer, Brooks Whittington from Half Wheel, the La Aurora Family Creed series. You could do it.
Preservation Toro, whatever the Spanish for preservation is. Preserva? I don't know if that's right. Preserva is, I don't know.
Preserva fiancé, or something like that. I don't know. Preserva, yeah, okay. Well, anyway, that's his cigar.
It's his turn. Yeah, okay. I don't know, 90. Oh, no, no.
87. I have no idea. Five and a quarter by 54, box press from the... You sleepies making me yawn, that's weird.
The La Aurora Cigar Factory in the Dominican Republic. American Republic, MSRP is $18, Box of 20 is $360, they smoked three. Hmm. Eighty-nine.
Eighty-seven. The Blend, The Wrappers, Pennsylvania Broadleaf, Binder, Mexican San Andreas, Filler, Dominican Republic, Nicaragua, and Pennsylvania Broadleaf. Hmm. Doesn't sound bad.
Eighty-eight. Eighty-seven. Clue number one. He's got going out the sideways hat.
Yeah, now he looks like he's from the little rascals. Clue number one, creamy oak and grilled meat delivered an enjoyable start with raspberry sweetness and black pepper on the retrohale. The early profile offered distinct flavors and complexity. Early profile, huh?
88. 87. Clue number two, all three samples maintained excellent draw results. Tresistence, and plentiful, dense smoke throughout.
Neither became a problem as the cigars progressed. Hmm, okay. That sounds pretty good. 89.
87. Third clue. Every sample needed at least two touch-ups. None were serious individually, but repeatedly reaching for the lighter became irritating.
Oh, he's irritated by the cigar. Oh, change the hats again. Yeah, every time I turn, he's got his hand in a different point. Mike's ended up.
87. 88. The opening showed promise, but the flavors gradually lost definition. The last third remained enjoyable, though considerably less complex than the first half.
Combined with reoccurring burn issues, that fading flavor profile limited the overall result. I don't know why. Gentlemen, this is your final score. Yeah, I just got to say, I don't know why, whenever you get to the final thought, I just kind of space out.
I'm sorry. I should be better than this. I don't know, 88. 87.
You went the right way, 86. There we go. Fireworks. Crushed it.
All reviews with photos can be found on Half Wheel. We have to give them credit. Yeah. Do we?
We don't have to. We're just being nice. We're just being nice. Are you okay?
I'm tired now. It's Monday. Well, I mean, it's Tuesday, but... Just rearrange the studio here and just get comfortable and just keep us on for the next 30 minutes.
Yeah. Hmm. The video wasn't happening. All right.
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You got a little burst of energy there at the end, didn't you? See that? The hat adjustments. The hat adjustments.
It's like tightening the battery. Yeah, it continues until it... All right, guys, we gotta go. Thank you very much.
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Show Notes
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The crew opens with microphone and studio-setup troubles after switching back to the old mics, then announces the Where the Phils contest winner (Southpaw), the mask fundraiser standings and a kids' fundraiser giveaway, and reads Lounge comments on the dogs cloning story, Dutch Shepherds and the new setup. In the news they cover a fake Jon Bon Jovi scam traced to Lagos, a New Jersey man charged with wire fraud over a park job and unemployment, and the Bigfoot footage hoax documentary. Cigar news centers on TAA week, including Casa Carrillo, Villiger, Espinosa, the re-released Brick House Beginning Ciento por Ciento and the Patina y Viso Re-Vetegris. They finish by playing What's the Score? with the Gran Habano Persian King Omega Omega and the La Aurora Family Creed Series Preservation Toro.