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October 28, 2026· 52m

Talking CAO, Reviews & Wild Headlines | CHPOD 649

Talking CAO, Reviews & Wild Headlines | CHPOD 649

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Ladies and gentlemen, amateurs and aficionados, sit down, lock in, in 3, 2, 1. Wow. Wow. All I can say is wow.

Right out of the way. We're off the jump. So professional. The other one, he was kind of winging it.

He changed it. It was... Right. Wow.

So professional. Okay. Welcome to a Cigar Hustler Podcast. Premium cigars, unfiltered opinions, and conversations that can go anywhere.

Anywhere? P. Palmer. You're supposed to say anywhere.

I'm not supposed to answer with anywhere. Yeah. He's supposed to answer with anywhere. Whimsy over there.

Whimsy? Whimsy. I'll get my cue next time. There you go.

Mike, the King Szczebankewicz, and everyone in the booth in our engineering department, we have the good one today, Ziggy, the engineer man. Nice to be here. The good one. The good one.

From cigars, sports, and business to pop culture and the wildest headlines, if it's worth discussing, we're talking about it. No safe spaces, just real perspectives, big laughs, and the chance for everything to go off the rails at any moment. I don't want to jinx this, but so far we're having no technical issues today. Oh, that was it.

I know, that was going to. Light went up, settle in, and welcome to a Cigar Hustlers Podcast. Dun, dun, dun. On today's show, uh, who ratted on mommy?

He's three years old, for God's sakes. And who's coming to visit? Hmm. Then in cigars, another TEA cigar, more festivals, and a Japanese cigar, before a what's the score for Wednesday.

Ah. But first, Mike, what's the deal in the lounge? What's going on over there? What's up with the lounge?

What's going on over there? I don't know, let's find out. Let's find out what's going on in the lounge. But before that, like and subscribe, we're reviewing and listening to the show.

Show. Oh, sorry, I thought we were all doing it. com for all your CHPod swag. com, a Cigar Hustlers podcast.

The newest addition on the CHPod site is you. Oh, my God. Isn't that nice? That's amazing.

With your Xenomorph head. Xenomorph head. Mm-hmm. Best part is, lower quantity of stickers.

It is, yeah. I don't know if I like them as much as the other ones, though. Oh, I thought they look good. Yeah, they look all right.

So, they're up. We need a king product for people to buy. People are asking for something with your, you know, muscular face and build on. Yeah, I'm fine.

With me running around chasing you guys as cats with heads. cats with heads that's fine wait our heads are on the cats i'm hurting cats yes okay i can work on that i was gonna make a gorilla but that's even better um some comments from the ch pod lounge let's see here lounge oh just so you know the we have no idea mask lance is gone lance is gone he's no no more bidding oh chris is still in the lead at 126 somebody take it away from him so did he get the last one too he will still have all of them Chris is still dominating but he has the entire collection so far correct somebody take it from him just so you know his wife begs of you I had a few people join in on the donations from my kids the prizes are They are stated on the CH Pod Lounge in the fundraiser giveaway, so I think T-Money already gave him a shout out, thank you T-Money, Stephen Wells, my man, I appreciate you, Charles Goff, who should be in the room, but he's not here right now, my man, Mark Palmer, OG, OG Mark Palmer, and David Hasselhoffman, David Hasselhoffman commented, dipped him into my Baywatch money to support the kids, hey, you know there's a new Baywatch coming out in the fall, I mean in the winter, I think he already said that to me, yeah. - Did I? - Yeah.

- I'm looking forward to it. I like Bayou. - Are you? - Yeah.

- How many times are you going to drown? You know what I mean? - It's different things. This is more exciting, it looks like, from the trailer.

- Oh, really? - Yeah. And the head guy is Mitch Buchanan's son, Hopi. He's grown up now.

- Oh. - That was a nice time. - That sounds amazing. - It is.

- Mark Palmer also said, "Donation made. Love that you do it for the school. Thank you, bro. " - You know what the grand prize should be for the biggest donation?

They get to accompany you and your family for dinner. Oh, no. Charles Goff says, made donation. Hope you hit the goal.

Thanks, bro. And Stephen Wells said, donation made. When are those kids going to start pulling their own weight? I hate to see what this is going to be like when they hit college.

Yeah, it's gonna be bad. A six month long donation for college money. College? They gotta go to college?

They don't have to. Oh, they better get a job. All right, some comments from the previous show. Or bigger donations.

Yeah, yeah. At CW6383 says, Sorry, Timmy, I made a mistake. Please forgive me. After reflecting, I agree with the king.

Siggy is better as a co-host host. As long as they don't hate me, I'm fine. Nobody hates the Siggy. Nobody hates the Siggy.

Nobody does. Except Tim. Tim does. Tim does.

Tim is pressing hard. " He's always there. " He's just kind of go with the flow. " "I can't be.

" Right. I mean, I do. Yeah. I like Siggy more.

He's responsible, he shows up on time. Right. Full of information that's good for the show. He's intelligent, speaks multiple languages.

I'm turning red like my shirt. Thank you, guys. Tim barely speaks one language. Right, he has a hard time with English.

Exactly. He can't even say aficionado. Yeah. " Yeah, apparently it put it on private instead of public on YouTube, but the other ones were posted, because they're not linked to that, right?

No, yeah, I do those. Yeah, when I put it up, I mean, it told me, it will be put up at 5 o'clock. I'm going to put it up at five o'clock, it will be a blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So I didn't even go to that part of the screen.

Yeah, I think that because I'm working on the short clips and adding, integrating all those other things, it must have clicked somewhere. Well, I did see that the short clips stay private until they're approved, so it might have a little confusion there. Yeah. But I did appreciate the angry text, though.

Of course. That's nice, right. You left it on private. Well, you did.

You should have checked it. Well, if I'm going to check it, why have the robot do it? Well, the robot's still new. We still got to trust but verify.

I don't know these things. When I go on, you don't even usually tell me things have changed until the day after. Things have changed. So I saw.

Changed wrong. " Eyes closed, just leaning into the microphone for his score update. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. You were sleeping on that show. Dude, I was, I don't know what happened yesterday.

I was exhausted. I passed out last night. I was watching the game and done. Cooked.

It happens. Sure does. You know? Yeah.

I usually, I usually don't sleep. I just nap in intervals. Was Claude sending messages of, where are you? Claude's like, hey, it's been a couple hours.

Hey, psst. Wake up. Hey, I need you to hit enter. Yell something mean to me.

So I'm going back and forth on Claude, and there's a Claude that he's got a little bit of an attitude with me. He's the one that I use for trading and stuff, and I always talk to him about buying Anthropic, like buy the IPO, and it broke down why it's a bad investment, opening trade, all the mistakes, and there's like four or five different things, and I said, "Okay, so you're saying shove all in. " And it wrote, yeah, absolutely, you heard XYZ, and you decided to deposit all your money into the account, smart, you're like, it was making fun of me, like, you're a genius. Do the different terminals, or whatever they call it, do they have different attitudes?

No, no. You made it sound like this one was different than the others. Well, not the terminals, but the inside, the Claude itself. Yeah, the things where you talk to it.

Not in the terminals. The terminals are very more generic. I'm generic. I don't know the right terms.

I'm very sorry. That's okay. I'm just at ChatGPT. Just enjoy the fruits of my labor, okay?

Somebody asked me yesterday something about Claude, and I'm like, I'm not at that level. I'm ChatGPT. Right. Right.

I have no idea. I don't have access. I have no idea how that works. I have a guy who does that for me.

I have a guy. I have a person. I have a guy that does that. And then yells at me when it's wrong.

@MarkPalmer from the CH Podlounds, I've heard of IBS, but irritable Palmer syndrome, It happens. It was definitely IPS yesterday. Everything was fine today, there was no problems. You're not as angry?

I'm not angry today at all. No. You should have seen him yesterday, Sig. He was...

" Yeah. Like, I've been down there working for an hour and a half, and you two just walk in like... Oh, pretty much. F you, buddy.

Why didn't it work? Oh, that's what happened? Orange? I don't like orange.

Why isn't my pad blue? I heard Tim wanted to color coordinate all the sponges. Yes. Well, his was orange yesterday, too, because it just happened to be what was on the microphone.

There was a new one on the table for him, but he didn't see it, so he was having a fit. He was orange. Tim not paying attention. Okay.

Well, no, no, that was him, the king. The king was orange, too. But Tim was orange, as he's always been. But everybody's getting blue ones.

Listen, I expect you to deliver. Is that wrong? Did you not deliver? You could help.

You don't think I help? Not yesterday. You didn't help me set anything up yesterday. That should have been the last day for setup.

So like the two orders that went in yesterday via this magical website that I built, was that me helping? Not on the show. You know there's different things we do all day long. So you're just looking at like this myopic scope of this one scenario that I didn't contribute.

I wasn't a contributing factor to this. Well, this was the myopic scope where you were yelling at me. I wasn't yelling at you at all. I was in a fine mood.

You were storming around. You had a fake cause you were orange. That started it off. I didn't even say anything.

You did too. No, I didn't. I'm turning the camera on as soon as I get here at eight o'clock in the morning. Go ahead.

So guys, the Saturday show is going to be like two and a half hours of maybe nothing until he pops in. Perfect. Perfect. Saturday show was nice and long.

" No way. Laugh it up over there, whimsy. That's 100% accurate. No, it's not.

David Hasselhoffman, you are correct. He got a little electrocuted when he shoved his thing in the hole. Today, I had to plug something in the hole, but I was more careful. Yeah, you're a little more careful this time?

A little more careful. Well, I wanted to make sure your sparklers worked. Okay. Another euphemism.

Another euphemism? Make sure your sparkler worked. Okay. " Oh.

Oh. Is that Tim? Is that Tim at something? Well, a little bit in my defense, I think an engineer should sort of be like a trad wife, just making sure everything works, and not talking over anybody, staying in the background, and only shows up when you ask.

What's a trad wife? Is a trad wife a swinger thing? Is that another thing? A traditional wife.

Oh. All these cop terms. Seen, not heard, ignored most of the time, getting drunk in the bathroom, but then being presentable, so. so taking swigs of vodka in the back and wine in the bathroom window is looking like i gotta do yeah exactly y'all get it that that's that's what i feel the engineer should be doing y'all are the stars the engineer just helps in the background and you know talks when talked to i think it's like i think there's a middle ground i think that you but here's the difference like we're trying to We get Tim to walk it back because he just talks over everybody all the time, right?

And we're getting Siggy, I think that Siggy is focusing on two things at once by running the board and then chiming in, and he's just got to find his footing. Once his footing is there, he's going to be locked in. I'm working on it. By the way, I'm trying to introduce a little bit more whimsy with the bunny ears.

It's a nice touch. Catching up to Tim. If y'all want to see more crazy stuff, or less, or more professional, just... More.

Oh, we want more. Oh my god. Well, let's let the, let's let the, the, the, the viewers chime in. Oh, that's fair.

Do you have different ears to match different colored shirts or did that just work out today? Yes, I do. He has different colored ears. Oh, that's nice.

Uh, what does the red one mean? Like multiple partners or something or like the, uh, the pink ones like, uh, You know, it probably does mean something, but, and I will look that up because I know the colors do mean stuff, but no, this is just strictly to match shirts. That's not shirts. Let's leave it up to the listeners.

Oh, no. Comment on what the different color ears mean. " Definitely an issue. Right.

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Xenomorph BDP. Xenomorph Palmer. The actual head. So you have a contest you're supposed to do today.

Oh, I do. You're supposed to make sure all the names are on the spinny-spinny. Oh, I was. I didn't do that.

Oh. So tomorrow, I'm going to announce a winner for this thing. If you're a Patreon member, something just fell off. You're gonna get this, there may be something inside, I cannot show you what is inside, but there may be something in there, one of 20 that you cannot get anywhere, but with the skull, there are a couple places that have them that we gave out, we screwed a couple people over on that, I wanted to talk about that, brass pipe we screwed over, yeah, it wasn't on purpose, no, no, no, listen, when you do things like this you make mistakes, right?

Smoke and Oak Podcast. Right. We blew them. Well, that didn't sound right.

Especially around two swingers. Oh, you and him. Wow. We messed that up.

So, I'm working on another one already, another presentation. Is it like a turkey for Thanksgiving? No, I wanted it to be like a present. I thought it'd be cool.

Oh, for Christmas? Yeah. Oh. Your brother loves these.

Yeah, because they're expensive. Right. We just give them away. Yeah, he was having to fit the, uh, what, there was a day you weren't here last week.

Yeah. Yeah, he was, he goes, are these for blah, blah, blah, and I'm like, I don't, I have no idea, I'm not even on this program. I don't know what they're for, I think we just give them away. He goes, what?

We're just spending money? I go, apparently. Yeah, I think it's cool. Yeah.

Uh, the next ones I think we're gonna do, I'm contemplating BDP test blends. Uh, how many you need then? How many you got? I don't know how many left, I have to look.

Well, you don't have to give all of them. No, no, I understand. But I mean, if you want 20, I want to make sure I have, you know, at least 20 left. Yeah, maybe like 20.

All right, I can, yeah, between the three, I can give up with 20. And what I think would be cool is if we started to modify if, you know how a lot of these have the P, the Posania logo on them? Mm-hmm. Maybe we did BDP.

Oh. With the P. Oh, I gotcha, okay. As the present.

Oh. That'd be sick. That would be. Right?

I thought that'd be dope. Yeah. So, and we'll just make sure that Brass Pipe and Smokin' Oak are top of that list. Right, they get the, you know.

Okay, let's get on with the show. Sorry, I had to move the cigar and this microphone's underway. All right, on with the news. See, that's why you gotta come in at this angle like this.

See, I'm just over here dominating. I can smoke comfortably. However, I can't reach my ashtray. Right, well, that's the new table comes tomorrow.

Perfect. Deputies say Irene Miller, 50, left her children ages 9, 11, 12, and 14 home. Did you hear about this? It's an Orlando story.

No. This lady went to Vegas for work for five days. Damn. How old were her kids?

9, 11, 12, and 14. I just said that. Oh, you did? Yeah.

Ouch. 9, 11, 12, and 14. Okay, that's close. I don't know.

It is close. 14 is close. Yeah, like 14 is kind of manageable, I guess. You know what I mean?

To look after the nine-year-old, maybe a little bit much. Okay, the way she got caught is they dropped a dumbbell on the little one's head and the 14-year-old called 911, which is a responsible move. But then when the fire department showed up, they found out the kids were left alone. There's nobody here.

Nobody here. The one at the house. So the kid went to the hospital. He wasn't injured, seriously.

He was released. But they called the father who was in who lives in town also and gave the kids to him. So for some reason, she didn't give the kids to the father. She had a babysitter that would come in the morning, get the kids up for school, feed them breakfast and make sure, you know, they had everything done and leave.

And then she would leave when the kids left for school and not come back. Okay, kids were left alone at night. I just want to know Tim's gonna work on a new table for you, Sig, so that it extends out so that you're not like right up against the stage. Yeah.

Make your life a little better. I saw him taking measurements yesterday. Yeah. Yeah.

When he was down here thoroughly cleaning the entire place. You think he's going to send us an invoice? Probably. Oh, I already have a price.

Oh, you do? Yeah. All right. We'll deduct it from his pay.

Well. It's to make his life easier. Greg said he would buy us a table. Got it.

So he's giving the invoice to Greg. Oh, we're going to hit up Greg? Greg spent the table. That's going to go over well.

He said he was going to buy us a table. That's going to go over so well. He volunteered. I didn't ask.

Okay. I mean, it's half the price of the one I picked out on Amazon. Oh, okay. Yeah.

I saved you money, Greg. Wow. So anyway, they call this lady. She explains what's going on over the phone.

I had to go to work. Blah, blah, blah. Right. When she lands in Orlando, the police are there.

Arrested. They arrested her on the sky bridge. Yeah. They arrested her right then and took her to jail.

Okay. What's her penalty? Ah, let's see. Miller reportedly sent a sitter.

We talked about the sitter already. I mean, so, okay, so did she mess up? Let me ask you, Siggy, did she mess up? That, I would have, because there's an adult showing up every morning, there's an adult local that can come help them, the father.

The dad didn't know she had left. That's, yeah, that's, it's, it's, there's obviously something there. Right, well, they're, they're separated and she obviously doesn't like him, so yeah, I don't know why she didn't tell him. Allegedly, yeah.

Yeah. Well, if they're separated, she doesn't like him. You don't know. I like you, let's get a divorce?

Yeah. It's not how it works. Three times. Three times?

Twice. Is that how it works? Twice. Yeah, they don't go, I like you a lot, let's get a divorce.

I hate you, I went out, let's get a divorce. I'm banging the neighbor, I want a divorce. Nobody was banging the neighbor. Oh.

Who was the guy? One was banging a fireman from online. Ah, okay. The other one I assumed she was banging someone, but I never caught her.

Oh. Siggy? What? If I were the cop in those shoes, I would have just direct filed to the state attorney and let them look that over, because I smell a case where it's going to have some kind of pre-trial intervention.

i think they would have charged like a third degree felony but it's hard to charge somebody for for being stupid you know right it's got to rise to negligence and like 14 like if that kid was 16 yeah 16 i think is the line because they can drive you know they can go to the store if something happens in case of emergency they can move the vehicle and around and stuff yeah it's really just a it was a it was a dumb call it was a dumb move to do right and normally if it's work Like, it may have been a last minute thing, it may not have been, you know, but... Yeah, but like, the big one watches the little one, I understand that strategy, but 14 watching nine, eh. Right. And also for five days, like overnight, I'm going out, kids take care of each other, but yeah, that's a rough one.

If it was just a babysitting gig, like she was going to be home around midnight, one o'clock or something, it wouldn't have been a big deal. I wouldn't leave my 14 year old to watch my six year old, even if we go out to dinner. That's not happening. You know what I mean?

If my six-year-old was nine, I don't know. I still don't think I'd green light that. I'd still want supervision. You know?

She was charged with four counts of child neglect without great bodily harm. Okay. I think it gets walked back. A good attorney walks a lot of this back.

Yeah, I don't think she does any time. No, cost her some money. Maybe a child-rearing class. Cost her a child?

No, a class about how to take care of your children. We will take one child. One child. You pick which one.

I hear the little one's damaged from the dumbbell. The little one is always the favorite. Yeah, but he had a dumbbell drop. How many kids?

Four? Four. Nine, ten, eleven, and whatever it was, fourteen. Yeah, she had no breaks, huh?

They don't have a TV at her house. Right. 9, 10, 11. Irish triplets.

Well, she had a break between the first one and the second one. The small break? 14 to 12. This is probably a new set.

Maybe. Maybe she restarted. Same husband. They're all the same guy?

One guy. You sure? Yeah, they said the father, not the fathers. Okay.

Just the one. You think with all that procreation, they would have stuck it out? You know what I mean? You know what I mean?

Well, maybe that's why it was worse. Maybe they're just having kids just to try and make it work. Could have been. You know what I mean?

Stop touching me every time we have a child. No, no, we need more kids. That's how we're going to make this marriage work. No, no, it makes it worse, more stress.

You're not helping like it is. I have to go to Vegas. I see that you're wearing the black ring and the pineapple upside down. Right.

Here's my friend Siggy. Right, and the red ears. What strikes me is she had other options. I mean, clearly she's got an in-home gym, she's got a local husband.

In the home gym, right? She had a dumbbell. I mean, yeah. The dumbbell.

That's a good point. He's a detective. Exactly. Yeah.

He was detecting. You're right. And she cared enough to have somebody maintain, right? It just wasn't enough.

Right. Yeah. She didn't go all the way. She just went halfway.

I mean, I'm not going to pay you to sit there all day where the kids are at school. Just go home. I had a kid throw one through me that I didn't understand what he was saying at the time. Right.

He said, like, I like to give out dum-dums at the end of practice. " You didn't know what an au pair was? I had no idea what an au pair was. Oh, it's a fancy...

Yeah, do you know what an au pair is, Siggy? Yeah, it's a maid. Yeah, he knows. " Like, is that...

Speak English, kid. Is that your brother? Is that a dog or something? I can't give a pet a dum-dum.

What kind of weird dog is that? Yeah. Hmm. Hmm.

Au pair. Au pair. Hmm. They're fancy.

I guess so. Right? Right. It's a French nanny.

Yeah. Maybe we have an au pair. So this guy, this chick needed an au pair. She needed an au pair.

Yeah. Or a nanny, one or the other. You think that she'd like dumb down the gym, you know, invest in it. You think the dad knew about it?

He's like, no, I can't watch the kids. I'm not available. I'm not available that way. Oh, I could really see that.

The dad just throwing her under the bus. Right. Tell you what, drop a weight on your brother's head when your mother leaves, And you'll all come live with daddy. I'm sorry, what happened?

Yeah, no, let me get, let me get the police, let me get the authorities on the phone right away, uh, yeah, about that alimony, uh, all right, no longer have to pay that, she's in jail. Here's gonna happen. Now you pay me. I don't have a home, Jim.

Kids are safe at my house. Okay. All right, next story. I've been getting these text messages from the National Republican Committee.

Oh, my God. President Trump is coming to town. Oh, God. President Donald Trump is scheduled to speak at the midterm rally hosted by the Republican National Committee Friday, October 30th, 2026 at the Ocean Center.

Is that around here? It's in Daytona. It's in Daytona Beach. It's the big convention center.

Not big, but it's the convention center in Daytona. Well, that might be far enough away where it's not chaos over here. No, the president will fly into the Daytona Beach airport. They'll walk down the road.

And the road. Our security expert, Ziggy, with all the information. So yeah, I actually, I think in his first go round, I was working when he came in and it's really just local. Unless you're trying to drive through Daytona Beach, there's going to be a couple shutdown roads before, a couple shutdown roads after, but yeah.

I remember we came to Sanford, it was a disaster. Oh, I filled out a media thing for us to go. No, you didn't. No, you didn't.

No, there was an option for me. I thought, how can I get through this? Yeah, we're a Cigar Houser podcast. A Cigar Houser podcast.

We love talking about politics. Yeah, all the time. Oh, you guys come on out. We'll give you special behind the scenes access.

How do you feel about Trump? Like, eh, sometimes we like him, sometimes we hate him. How do you feel about the leading Democrat? Eh, sometimes we like him, sometimes we hate him.

Yeah, who is he? Okay. Oh, yeah. Who's that one now?

Who's that one? We don't know that name. Is he here? Can I talk to him?

Yeah, we want to get his point of view as well. That does say, because you have to register by phone, give me your phone number, and then there's not even an option to click away from it, that you will be contacted by the National Republican Committee with voter information after this. No kidding. So then they call your phone all the time.

Right. So you don't want to go? You must swear allegiance to the National Republican yada yada. We can get four tickets.

I'm good. All four of us can go. I'm good, man. Listen.

I wouldn't want to go out there if I was getting paid and got to eat lunch with them. My wife just called me this morning and said, oh, so the schedules are out for all of our school sports for this upcoming sesh. She's like, you got three games in three different locations on Saturday. Three different things.

And I'm like, perfect. Is it three different sports too? Oh, yeah, yeah. Three different kids.

Well, it's two different sports. Football, basketball, basketball. All different spots. Oh.

Yeah, that's great. At the same time? No, there's a little bit of space between them. Is there travel time between them?

If I had the new Tesla thing... If you had the flying car. I stood a chance. Yeah.

So this is all just... This is a different organization. This is all through the school. So how do they think parents should have more than one child?

They don't care. Not only do they not care. I mean, think about this. It's Tuesday.

Hey, guess what? Games are on Saturday. We haven't even practiced for some of these teams. The first game is this Saturday, like in three days?

Yeah, yeah. Oh, wow. So when are you going to practice? Yeah, we'll figure that out.

I deal with all of this, this is my life. It doesn't seem reasonable. None of it is. It's called parenting.

Yeah, but the parenting didn't make the schedule. I think the school, there would have been someone that went, or is there like a football guy and a basketball guy and they don't talk? No, no. There's one head, there's one grand poobah who handles all of this stuff.

Director of athletics or something. Yeah, yeah. And there's obviously some lag where they don't handle this. I mean, I could have this wrapped up and I could have a system in Claude build this, here are the schools, here are the organizations, here's a time opening, generate, overlap, allow time between, cover any issues, like, let's do this.

They don't want to do that. Well, if your kid played basketball and football, I mean, yours do. Yeah. Is this the same child on Saturday play basketball that plays football?

No, because the way that their sports go, like basketball runs for elementary school first, beginning, like right now, and then football will run for them later, and it's flipped the other way. Ah, gotcha. " We're in Kissimmee, you know, and you got to make it in Florida. Well, I'm sitting next to two swingers, it's Kissimmee.

We're not kissing you, and I'm not a swinger. You're kissing me. I'm not sure about red ears, but I'm not. Red ears?

Mm-hmm. That's what red ears mean. That's what red ears? Okay.

Okay. So anyways, moving on. All right, Winter Park Police responded to a the used soccer dispute- Oh, here we go. This is interesting.

involving a three-year-old player after a report of a disruptive parent. His parent said he was being removed because he was too good at soccer. I'm not buying that. I saw the video.

He is amazing. He is amazing. I don't believe that that's why he's... Why else would they take him out?

I believe that there is some hostility with parents. Listen, here's the reality that I'm gonna tell you. Parents will always screw this up. 100% of the time.

It's not the kids. The kids can fight on the court, and you can separate them. Oh, it says in the opening thing that it was parents. Yeah, that makes sense.

Yeah, the kid was probably tired. The kid was balling out, right? And I don't know who started what, but I'm going to tell you that it wasn't because their kid was too good. There was something else going on and things got heated because parents are idiots.

Well, some parents said that he was pushing the other players. It's soccer. Right. You're going to run into each other.

Yeah, right. He's three. Right. Exactly.

Yeah. We got a girl that's, um... Wait, he had a... Go ahead.

Yeah, he's three, but he was playing like an 18-year-old soccer player. It was right. He was doing the full shirt grabbing, like how they do on in World Cup. This kid was surreal when he said shirt.

I thought he was like taking it off and swinging around his head. I mean, look, that's part of the game. Yeah, you know what I mean? Now, look, if he's lowering the shoulder and taking the kid out, then we got a problem, right?

But there's a level of physicality that's got to be accepted. Then you've got to be aware of that when you're getting into a sport, right? You know, look, I can tell you that. I come across football teams that you can tell or tackle teams, and they're just way too physical, and they do everything they can to intentionally beat a team, right?

And you're just like, whoa, like this is not okay, right? You've officially crossed that threshold, right? And then you see the ticky tacky, the pulling and all this other stuff, and you're like, and then your player says, oh, well, he touched me, but I'm like, yeah, it's football, man. Like, no, that's going to be some amount of contact.

That's part of the game, right? Even in flag football, imagine there's some amount of contact. Right. Oh, of course.

I mean, we got this kid, she is amazing. She is an absolute dog on the field. She's six years old. She goes to every, she pulls every flag.

She's just like lightning, right? And some, but she always winds up on the ground. Like she likes to slide and pull and we're working on that. She's six, right?

Sure. and then sometimes they'll collide a little bit and the player will fall or whatever, she's not intentionally trying to knock somebody down, right? Right. She's just a little aggressive.

Right. It's like, hey, I would much rather have a player that was a little bit aggressive, especially that's three years old, than a player that's extremely timid and not doing anything. Right. It's so much harder to bring that kid up than to dial the kid back that's over going.

Sure. Yeah, yeah. Connor played soccer when he was little and I helped coach a couple of games And it was just hard to get all the kids to run the same way. Right.

Yeah. Like, we're just, okay, everybody out that way! Right, no, the ball, the ball, the ball. Okay, I'm gonna like this way!

Yeah. Didn't have a little kid we called Pele or anything running around kicking over the shoulder and doing a head mid. So yeah, I don't know which side of the parents are responsible or which ones are wrong. Because it could be his, it could be the other parents.

But I guarantee you, it's not the kids. No, no, no. It's not the kids. Yeah.

The Police classified it as a civil dispute, no arrests for citations were issued, Youth Sport Organizations, I-9 said it contacted the family and began reviewing the incident. Yeah, I mean, what are you going to review? The tapes. Reviewed tapes.

Okay. Interview witnesses. Did anybody get hurt? Was there any physical altercation?

Well, just the one that was upset that he got taken. Their feelings were hurt? His feelings. He's only three, he's feelings.

I don't think the three-year-old's feelings are hurt. He's unfazed. I saw the video of that kid playing. The kid's unfazed.

Right, he was good. I saw it too. They're talking about it on the radio today. That's how good he was.

Alright, on to cigar news. Registration opens for La Gran Cata, C-A-T-A. How do you say that in Honduran? Cata.

Cata. Cata. Grand Catar, Honduras' new cigar festival, so another festival, we love festivals, a lot of festivals in the cigar industry. In Honduras?

In Honduras. Ooh. Let's all go there, it's so safe. Everybody, let's go armed.

Those interested in attending- I'm just kidding. Allegedly. Those interested in attending the new Honduran Cigar Festival can finally register and purchase tickets, the Consejo de Artesinos del Tobacco de Honduras, the Honduran Cigar Manufacturers Association, why can't they just call it that? Why do we have this?

Why would we do that? Why do we do these words you can't pronounce? Yeah, because we refer to them. It's hosting a cigar festival for the first time, La Gran Cata 2027.

Like other festivals in the Dominican Republic and Nicaragua, it will include a mixture of cigar factory visits and other non-cigar activities as well. Twister? We have themed dinners. Oh.

Not Twister. A unique highlight will be a Sunday night dinner attended by President Nassare Asufura. Ooh. President of Honduras.

Nice. The festival will begin on Saturday, January 23rd, in some word I'm not even going to try to say. It's... Say it.

Stepankiewicz. No, that's not it. Yes, it is. It's spelled exactly the same way.

No, God, give me, come on, come on. T-E-G-U-C-I-G-A-L-P-A. Say it. T-E-G-U...

No, you're saying letters. I want to hear you say it. No, no, that's how you pronounce it. Come on.

It's Honduran. Come on. Car, car, car, car, car, car. Car, car, car, car.

There's a "pa" on the end. The country's capital before moving east to Donnelly, where most of the cigar, country's cigar industry is located on January 23rd. Saturday, we don't need to go through this entire thing. Yeah, that's fine.

There's a reception, a tour. The best part about this is it's right before Pro Sabor, and on the last day, if you don't mind missing the introductory reception for Pro Sabor. The White Party? No, no, that's at the end.

With the khakis? That's at the end. Okay. They will bus you across the border back to Nicaragua, and you can attend the other...

Oh, a double whammy. Yeah, if you buy tickets for a bow, yes, they will provide transportation back to a country where you don't need to go all the time. Are you saying that Nicaragua is safer than Honduras? From what I've heard, I have not been to Honduras, but things I've heard.

Okay. Unless you're, you know, with Oscar, then you're fine. Yeah. No one's going to touch you.

He's attending. He'll be attending? He is attending. He's on the list.

Registration is $2,500 per person or $4,000 for two married people who will split a room. So what, you can't split if you're not married? So you and Siggy are fine. No, we're not married to each other.

You got to be married to each other. No. That's kind of, you can't bring your girlfriend, you have to bring your wife. Okay.

Right. Yeah. Are they going to ask for a marriage license? You got to prove it, yeah.

Wow, that seems kind of... Yeah, that's what I heard. All right, but that includes all activities, lodging, ground trip station, lunch, and dinner, and lots of cigars. Okay.

Does not include airfare. Airfare is not included. How are you going to get there? It's up to you.

What if you drove? Drove? Yeah. You're going to drive from here to Esteli?

Yeah. I think it's a long drive. I think so, too. I think it is, pretty much.

But you can do it. It can be done. It can be done. How many days is that?

Oh, the drive? No, the event. Oh, the event is four days. It's like a really good cruise.

Right. All about cigars. I think there's only, but there, dude, there's only so much you can do. Four days, I mean, I'd be like, okay.

Oh, look, another cigar factory. Let's go smoke some more, yeah. I've had seven cigars, I can't possibly smoke another cigar. Oh, this is amazing.

And like two of them were good. We roll our cigars very specially. If I close my eyes during the travel and open my eyes, I could be in the same place. Something different.

They just shake the bus and I get back out. Yeah. Four days is a long time. That is a long time.

In a third world country? Yeah. Yeah, where you have to, you know, put the toilet paper in the garbage can. Yeah, that's correct.

I hated that part of the trick. You don't want to do that. If you, if you put it down, you might have a problem. You could have.

Not if you flush one piece. How did they not think about that when they built it? Yeah, I mean, toilet paper has been around a long time. Yeah.

Right. If you're careful, you can still flush. Oh, yeah? Yeah.

Is that what they told you? No, that's what I found out. After two days, I'm like, I can't do this, it's disgusting. I can't leave my poop in the trash.

Go ahead and sing. Do they use bidets down there, or just toilet paper? No. Nope.

Bidet? No. What do you think, it's France? Yeah.

What do you think, they have au pairs? Come on, I had to ask. That's funny, it's a callback. That's very nice, I like when I have it.

CEO America Flathead come together for the new TAA exclusive. Ooh, a merge. So they made a flathead and put an Indian on it, and they see what it looks like. An indigenous person.

Right. Oh, an indigenous person. You can call it a box-pressed landmark or a hybrid between CAO America and Flathead, Scandinavian Tobacco Group STG has announced its 2026 exclusive release on the second day of TAA for retailers that are members of the Tobacco Association of America. That releases a CAO Flathead American Muscle, which has been taking the CAO American Blend and putting it in a format used by the CAO Flathead.

The Flathead American Muscle will be offered in a box-press 6x60 Gordo that has the barber-pull look of the CAO America. Oh, so they just took the CAO America, made it a box-press, and put it in a band. Correct. Ah.

Where a lighter wrapper appears as an accent for their... Yeah, we all know what barber-pulls are. SCG says the wrapper are Connecticut Broadleaf and Connecticut Shade, Underneath is a Brazilian binder and fillers from the Dominican Republic in Italy. They go tobacco in Italy?

I guess so. Well, what they do is, they have a river. Right. Okay.

And... The Nile? No, I don't think that's... That's not in Italy.

No. I don't need a map. That's not a thing. That's not a thing.

But what you do is, you know that town where the water is, and you can drive through it and stuff? What was that? Oh, yeah, yeah, I know what you're talking about. Venice.

Yeah, Venice, Venice. You don't drive through it, you're in a boat. You flow through it, yeah. Yeah, there's actually an underwater tobacco field there.

Oh! Yeah. That's nice, you came out of this quickly. Yeah, and in order to get there, you actually have to get blessed by the Vatican before you even get to Venice.

Oh, so you have to stop. You gotta go see the Pope. And then, at that point, then you're granted access into this underwater tobacco lab. It's a tobacco lab.

Yeah. Uh-huh. And that's the rare Italian tobacco. Oh.

Mm-hmm. Wow. Yeah. No strange animals help with this one?

There is a strange animal. Is it? Yeah. Yeah.

What is it? It's a bear. This time. A bear in Italy?

Yeah, it's an Italian bear. Oh. Mm-hmm. It's small.

Oh, a little bear. Yeah, it's a little bear. And it talks Italian. " Yeah, but it doesn't poop it out.

Oh. So it's not baro-chatilia. It's actually regurgitated. Oh.

Yeah, it's regurgita-bara. Oh, regurgita-bara. Yeah. I've heard of that.

Yeah, it's very rare. Very rare, super rare. And the stomach acid actually helps break down the tobacco. Oh, because it gets in there a little bit for it back up.

Yeah, so it can only be used as filler. Oh. And it actually sweetens it. Oh, wow.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah.

Sort of looking forward to trying this giant box press barber pole thing. Yeah. It's part of the, it's only CAO, it's only used in the CAO America box press. TAA.

Allegedly. The TAA, yeah. The Indigenous People Edition. Right.

Wow. We'll never see these. Yeah. No, you're never going to get them.

Damn it. Yeah. You okay? Yeah.

See, you're struggling with the mic? No, I'm sliding, sliding in the chair. You're sliding? Sliding.

Hmm. All right. Confidential Himitsu goes on sale in Japan. I've been waiting for this one.

You've been waiting on the Japanese cigar? Yeah. There's a new Robusto for the Confidential line, but it's only available in Japan. We only have it here.

Last week, the Confidential Hemutsu went on sale in Japan. It measures four and seven-eighths by 50, a classic Robusto, and uses the same blend as the core Confidential line. The company says the tweaks to the specific blend were finalized by Eric Pyrus and Anton Ribourette of Confidential, as well as TTJ, I don't know who TTJ is, He's head of the Yakuza, Oh, the company's distributor in Japan, allegedly, if he is, let's not, and if you don't, yeah, please don't hurt us, and if you don't like, Oh, you make a fun of my head, Heimutsu. And I got news for you.

If you don't like the cigar. I love the cigar. Yeah. That's what you have to do.

Who's the cigar? Yeah. Exactly. That's exactly what happens.

Damn it. I hate when that happens. Yeah. Everybody loves the cigar.

Right. Yeah. It's very well resumed. If you don't have a margin of divorce except for lunch in Japan, say Paris in a press release, the retailer and end consumers have been very enthusiastic about sharing the Heimutsu.

- It's probably a white dude. - Secret, since we launched the brand three years ago, and offered a very warm welcome to Himitsu. Oh, there's actually something in Japanese here on the screen. - Yeah, there was some symbols.

- I don't know what that is, yeah. Himitsu is the Japanese word for secret. - Oh. - We weren't supposed to tell people.

You guys should put that at the beginning of the story, not the end of the story. - You are not supposed to know. - You're not supposed to talk about. Well, the Mutsu will only be sold in Japan.

It is not considered a limited edition item. In Japan, the cigar has a retail price of? Okay, I have Japanese dollars and freedom dollars. Yen?

You have yen? Well, it says J-P-Y. That doesn't spell yen. Japanese yen.

Yeah. Japanese when? J-P for Japan, Y for yen. Alright, enough over there.

What do we call them again? Wiggly? Wimily? Wimsy.

Wimsy. Wiggly. Yeah, Wiggly. I like Wiggly better.

Wiggly. Sigily Wiggly. All right, I have yen and freedom dollars. Guess which one?

$18. Is that yen? No, it's American. Ah, freedom.

Freedom dollars. Whimsy? Siggly Wiggly. $20 US dollars.

Oh, 21. He'll win. Oh, you get a cherry blossom. Very close.

Do you want to guess how many yen that is? Like 9,000? Yeah, it's probably up to. 3,300.

We are really honored to be chosen country for the first regional edition of Confedencia. said mark nakai ceo of ttj so i mean okay he's he's he's legit sound like that he's legit we believe himitsu will be a great success and is arriving on the market at an ideal time it's just a matter of time before somebody tries to club us right it's a matter of time he's in japan he's got he's got to be devoted yeah he's got to really want to yeah our three japanese listeners just unsubscribed oh i think if anything they actually share with somebody else You're not going to believe these two idiots. You're not going to believe these two idiots. They sound just like us!

It's not okay. They have a Japanese guy on the show! A Bodoran eraser! They have a white-haired Japanese guy, and a very plump brunette!

Wow! Prump brunette? Yes, you're plump. I'm prump.

They don't do muscle. I'm not Jake. You don't do muscle. Oh...

He's a little prump. With the perm. With the perm? Yeah, he's very upset, he's the only one who's never been on the show.

Yeah? I mean, he hasn't earned that yet, he's still new. That's why Keanu keeps telling him. Yeah, I got news for you, he processed an online order for a point of sale, he marked everything as the Queen of Hearts, and it was like four different cigars.

Oh, nice. He like, scan, scan, scan, oh yeah, this is done, like, oh, perfect. Nice. Our new problem child.

Yeah. All right, it's time for the industry's favorite game. What's the score? Today's Cigar dated October 17, 2012, the reviewer is Charlie Minato from Half Wheel, the cigar is the Iconic Leaf Recluse Toro Pre-Release.

And to borrow? No, Iconic Leaf Recluse Toro. You didn't even do your whole preps thing. It won't do it anymore, so we've shortened it.

It just gave it up on you, it's like, you know what, I'm done. Oh, today it just kicked out a list, I'm like, no, no. No, Doc. This doesn't work.

Yeah. I said yesterday, like, you need to do it like this. Sigly Wiggly, do you want to go first or do you want me to go first? Give me the name of the cigar again.

Recluse? No, no, it's not the Recluse. It's an Iconic Leaf Recluse Toro. It's not from the Recluse line.

Iconic Relief Recluse Toro. Is that his brand, the Recluse cigar comes from Iconic Relief? I don't think that's his brand. Yeah, Iconic Leaf, yeah.

Oh, there's no spider on the band. Okay. So I'll go first. It's got like six letters, like words in the name.

Okay. So I'm saying 90. Wow. That's an interesting strategy.

I'm going to go 86. All right. It's a 6x52 Toro. Factory is some Dominican factory.

80. 20 per box of 24. Now, this is 2012 pricing. They smoked two cigars.

Sigly Wiggly. I'm sticking with 90. 86. The Blend, the Rapper's Brazilian Cobra, Binder Cameroon, Filler, Dominican Republic, it's box-pressed with an Entubado, is it Entubaro?

Entubaro. There's no R. What's an Entubaro? Filler.

Oh, it's a filler, okay. No. No, no, explain it. It's the way that they roll the interior of the cigar.

He needs a napkin. So they, so they do, so they... He does this great trick with a napkin when we're somewhere and he has to describe these things, it's my favorite part of his talk. So they twist them and then they twist them all together, so they're like little tornadoes, like little tubes inside.

The two different ways of really kind of rolling a cigar: Antubaro, which is allegedly your original Cuban style, and then accordion, where you take all the leaves and you go up, over, up, over, up, and then you wrap them together. Cool. Yeah. I'm sticking with 90.

86. All right, clue number one. I like that he had to drop the Antubato. That's how I know it's Scott.

What? He loves the Antubato. Oh. Like, that's his pitch.

He brings it up all the time. Oh, well, what's his name? Scott. Scott, yeah, Scott Weeks.

Antubaro. I need my Antubaro. Clue number one. The standout was its exceptionally full body.

Its smooth character helped mask the fullness, While Strength Started Around Medium and Increased to Medium Full. I'm still at 90. Okay, well, the first clue, and we're not talking about the flavor profile, we're talking about the strength. 87.

Clue number two, toasted coconut, cedar, and fruit opened the experience. Earth and grass became more prominent through the middle before sweet cocoa returned with leather and cream toward the finish. The reviewer enjoyed the interplay between sweetness and bitterness. I'm enjoying the interplay.

Mm-hmm. I'm still locked in at 90. I'm gonna eek up here. I'm gonna go 89.

Clue number three. This cigar, so bad. One sample was discarded halfway because it wouldn't stay lit. Oh, it just ditched it.

The completed sample experience tunneling required a full relight and needed additional touch-ups. Lingering harshness also affected the finish. I am still staying at 90, because my theory is that all the, all, everything else doesn't matter, just the name, the words, yeah, 84, final thought, the reviewer appreciated the body and some flavor development, but found the cigar lacked distinction. His assessment largely reflected the completed sample because the other became too difficult to smoke.

A good cigar, but the experience didn't make it special. I wonder if his plugging rules were as stringent as they are now. You'll find out when you see the final score. Gentlemen, what's the score?

I'm going to step back to 89. What happened to all your syllables, sir? Watch it be 90 the minute he reads it or something. 89, 89.

Eighty-four. Final score is? Eighty-four. Oh!

Oh boy, that feels, oh, it stopped. That's scary. Might need to be shaken up. It's good for a minute there, and then it's...

Got all the way to the ceiling tiles. Yeah. Nice. The review can be found with photos on the half wheel.

Dun, dun, dun. Okay. Okay, you have anything else to add, Mr. Palmer?

No, that's the end of the show. Siggly Wiggly? Just, I think we're gonna have another beer tasting shortly. We're getting some new beers, so watch our online presence.

Ooh. Very popular, his beer tasting. Well, for me, I just gotta tell you, hey, like and subscribe, review and listen to the show. com for all your chpod swag.

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Show Notes

The crew opened with the cold open and a rundown, then went through Comments from the Lounge covering the We Have No Idea mask auction, donations for Mike's kids' school fundraiser, the YouTube bot posting privately, Claude chatter and Siggy's role as engineer, plus a swag/BDP test blend giveaway plan. News stories covered a mother arrested for leaving her four kids home alone while in Vegas, Trump's October 30 rally at the Ocean Center in Daytona, kids' sports scheduling, and a 3-year-old soccer player removed in Winter Park. Cigar news covered registration for Honduras's La Gran Cata festival, the CAO Flathead American Muscle TAA exclusive, and the Japan-only Confidential Himitsu Robusto. The show ended with What's the Score on the Iconic Leaf Recluse Toro pre-release, reviewed by Charlie Minato of halfwheel,