Talking Plasencia, Reviews & Wild Headlines | CHPOD 650

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Ladies and gentlemen, amateurs and aficionados. Ladies and gentlemen, amateurs and aficionados. Thank you. Thank you.

Ladies and gentlemen, amateurs and aficionados. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, amateurs and aficionados. Ladies and gentlemen, amateurs and aficionados.

Ladies and gentlemen, amateurs and aficionados. Ladies and gentlemen, amateurs and aficionados. Ladies and gentlemen, amateurs and aficionados. Ladies and gentlemen, amateurs and aficionados.

Ladies and gentlemen, amateurs and aficionados, sit down and get ready in 3, 2, 1. He's so professional. Welcome to a Cigars Podcast, premium cigars, unfiltered opinions and conversations that can go anywhere. Anywhere?

Anywhere. Thank you. I'm your host, Mike BDB Palmer, and joining me today is the co-host, the man who finally got his table, so God forbid he had to ash with his right hand. Mike Szczevan, Kevin.

18 years in this industry. Yeah, 18 years, 18 years in the industry. I text Nick Malillo to confirm, by the way. Oh, because he made the original?

Yeah, he was the guy. Okay, what'd he say? He didn't answer you. No, he got back to me.

Oh. I'd rather not say. He said Connecticut Broadway. I'd rather not say.

All right, over in the engineering booth, the fan favorite, a man who spent his career listening, carefully finding the truth and helping people, is now faced with making sure that his headwear matches his shirt. Ziggy, The Engineer Man. I like those low stress jobs. Hello guys.

Hi. From cigars and sports, to business, to pop culture, and the wildest headlines. If it's worth discussing, we're going to talk about it. No safe spaces, just real perspectives, big laughs, and the chance for everything to go off the rails at any moment.

Light one up, settle in, and welcome to Cigar Hustlers Podcast. Dun, dun, dun. Thank you. You're welcome.

You're welcome. On today's show, $20 is $20. Hello, where did he go? Oh boy.

Oh. Make sure it has mayo on it. The Brits. Then in cigars.

Placencia is the GOAT, another TAA cigar, and a numbered Bombay LE. Oh. And then we have a what's the score. Okay.

But first. Tell me. What's in the lounge? What's in the lounge?

What's going on in the lounge? What's going on in the lounge? I don't know, what's in the lounge? Who's in the lounge?

What are the people saying? I forgot to look today, because you called me to do something else. Ruined my restaurant. I ruined your career.

Not my career. You ruined my life. Wow. You son of a- Before you get started, did you see our engineer shared the show he was on the day before yesterday?

Did he? The funny part was him trying to explain to his friends what it was. You're like, well, so what is it? Most of my friends aren't cigar smokers, but this is entertaining, even if you don't smoke cigars.

Yeah. I'm kind of happy with how I'm performing here. " Yeah. " I still wear the headwear, though.

Yeah, I still wear the headgear. I saw that you were talking about the pineapple, but, you know, it all didn't track. That's cool. Do you think Tim's going to share it with his friends?

I don't think he hasn't. I don't think he has it. He doesn't. It's just us.

It's just us. Just us. But in the meantime, like and subscribe. What?

He is doing well with the table. I had him send me progressive photos all afternoon yesterday. Table building? Yeah.

When he's done, I can make a little video for it. Oh, that's very sweet. Yeah. But now, we're going to need you to like and subscribe.

We're reviewing and listening to this show. com for all your CHPod swag. com, @cigarhustlerspodcast, where we have inside baseball, cigar reviews, and giveaways, like this one. Are we doing it today?

Yeah, we're doing it today. Is there, does anybody have a marker? This one doesn't have a P on it. A red marker?

I don't care. You got a marker? I have gold, silver, and black. Ooh, you got black?

Go get the black one. I'll wait. Where is it? I'll go get it.

No, I want to do it right now. Check the tray. It might be right there in the tray. Don't get any of the wipey ones, but there's, you know, the ones for Preston who doesn't show up anymore.

Okay, let's see which camera catches Mikey wandering around most. Okay, I think that's going to extend that camera view. There he goes. He's going for it.

He's coming back. So we go back to Mike. He's coming back and I've turned off my headset again because the fat pinches off my machine. And it's going to be super loud again.

Maybe you just shouldn't put it there. Well, I don't do a lot of bending normally during the show. No bending? No bending.

Yeah, so a lot of these have a red P on them. This one, this is going to be one of one. It's going to have... Ah, like the melted bear and the...

Oh. And the beanie. Oh, yeah, this is good. Look at this.

Oh, my Lord. Oh. It was better off without it. Oh, look.

Oh, a soundboard. A soundboard. I try. It was better off without it.

What are you talking about? No way. This is premium quality stuff. Custom made.

You want to find out the winner now, or do you want to wait? No, they're waiting. Well, I don't know if you do it now, they're all going to turn the show off. All right, let's all do it sometime.

Well, listen, our Patreon listeners don't turn it off. Okay. That's not true. Don't forget to check out in the CHPod Lounge, there is a fundraiser going on for my kids, and if you donate and enter to win, comment below, you're going to be entered to win some really cool prizes, stuff that you cannot get.

Stuff he has drawn on. Stuff that I've squiggled on. A little scribbly. It's kids drawings from when they were in kindergarten.

The We Had No Idea mask is holding fast at $127. Oh, how many more days? It's got to almost be up. It's got to be.

It's getting close. I think there's like a day left. One day? Mm-hmm.

" Touché, Charles. We'll see how it ends. This is what makes it fun, though, for me. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Right. Because, like, the buy now just killed it. And then it's like, all right, now we've got to wait three weeks.

Yeah, now what are we talking about for three weeks? Yeah, like, I don't have another match. Fundraiser giveaway comments, let me see if there's any recent ones, just good luck to the kiddos, the back button doesn't work right, okay, let's see here, some comments, it's still broken, from the previous episode without the YouTube comments, these are all from the CH Pod Lounge. Christopher Weiss says, "With all due respect to BDP and Little Timmy, the king has been in the industry for 18 years.

Who are you, cigar industry youngins, to question his vast industry knowledge? " Apparently you were wrong. I still believe that it's not Broadway. You asked the guy who made it.

Yeah, it doesn't matter. Maybe he didn't know. I think he knows. I know.

He remembers everything. He does. He's very smart. He responded to me so quickly, too.

" He's been going to get Broadleaf the entire time. It just doesn't make any sense, though. You didn't even mention which cigar, did you? " It's always been Broadleaf, bud.

It's always been Broadleaf. " Dalton Wulstonholmy. Dalton Wulstonholme. Dalton Wulstonholme.

Dalton Wulstonholme. Horrible. Okay. It says paying $18,000 for an invisible statue is pretty much the same as buying a bag of Lay's potato chips.

Did that happen? Did somebody buy? Yeah, there was an art thing where it was a bag of Lay's potato chips. And it sold for an ungodly amount of money.

You can at least eat the chips. No, if you open the bag, then the art's gone. But you could still eat them? No.

I can't eat the invisible air? Well, you can. No, it doesn't fill my tummy like the Lay's potato chips do. Yeah, but you don't want to eat your art.

I'm just saying, I could. You can eat a metal sculpture, too. I'm just saying, I could. No, you can't.

You can't. No, you can't. How are you going to break it down? I don't know.

There's a guy that ate an airplane. The whole airplane? The whole airplane. How big?

I don't know. You don't even know? He ate everything. Oh, but you just know that it happened.

I have read it that it happened. You read that? You can Google it. You read that it happened?

You can Google it right after you find out it is not Habano. I don't like you. You don't like me being right. Because it very seldom happens.

But when it happens, it's big. Okay, well, you know, just remember. Same thing I tell my wife. When it happens, it's big?

Oh, no. We're back on swinger topics. Yeah, is that when another person entered the room? You're like, don't worry, when it's going to happen, it's going to be big.

I'm going to go stand over here now. I'm going to go stand over here now. I'm going to watch this thrashing occur. " We're very sorry.

Well, we all miss Zombie Phil just a little bit, but unfortunately... Yeah, not so much. He walked away. This is part of...

This is... That's what zombies do. They wander. Yeah.

Brains. I have none. Yeah. I Heart Boots.

Gonna have to modify that name. Gonna change that name. Whoever you are. It says, @CoreyDavis, You're Not The Only One.

We have no idea who that one is at all, do we? No. Unless it's him. I don't think he's chiming in.

He's never, he never watched the shows that he wasn't part of. Oh, good point. Well, maybe now. Do you think he like sits in a tub, lights some candles, has like a beer, plays memories, listens to like sad music, and watches the show?

Yes. Exactly. I was part of it. I wanted to be.

I walked away. I don't know why. I wanted to be a name, household name. Right.

Well. Corey Davis says, "Wait, we were supposed to give the skull away? " You know, it wasn't, to be fair, it wasn't the best, well-orchestrated thing that we have ever done. I could tell you that.

The amount of messages I got with thank you, question mark. Yeah. What is this for? Question mark.

Yeah. I saw it on your podcast. Still don't know. Yeah.

Uh, sometimes I just get ahead of myself. Like, oh, this is cool. Let's go do this. Let's do this and then send it to everybody.

Let's send it to people. Who do we send it to? I don't know. Let's ask the podcast people.

And then we send it to some people. Like, you know what? We're just going to have to wing this because we still have more. We need to more names.

You guys start throwing out names. " And Koo probably won't respond. Are you familiar with Cigar Journal? Yeah.

It's kind of an upscale magazine-y thing? Yeah, it's more on the other side of the pond, but yeah. Yeah, they picked up and carried our additional members of the podcast press release. Did they?

I just happened to stumble across it today. Wow. Yeah, I thought that was neat. Thank you very much, guys.

Nice. Look, man, it's a better place if we all stick together. You know, we don't always have to agree, but if we can work together, we can make this industry bigger and better. They're a good place to go, and I'm running short on news because it is news from, you know, Europe more than this.

Yeah. So, it is stuff that you wouldn't normally find in our regular choices? Okay. Cool.

Now I got to jump to the YouTube page because this damn thing is broken again. It's broken. It's because you swear at it or just swearing at it this morning. Yeah, well, you know what?

Sometimes you got to let them know. You know what I'm saying? You did the story where that's not allowed now, being mean to your AI. No, there's a difference.

How's there a difference? I'm not violent, or, you know, I'm not at that level. Oh. Yeah.

Well, it's all perspective. Maybe he feels you are. Claude. No, he's got a parameter.

I don't even hit those parameters. Uh. I hate to see what the bad ones are. I'm sorry?

I hate to see what the bad ones are. Oh, they gotta be. Gonna be pretty bad. Yeah.

Wow. Yeah. @bryanmattingly5539 says, "By the way, It always tingles when you have a fresh load rained down on you. Well, that's what I've heard.

I saw that. I have no idea what you're talking about. Me neither. It always tingles when you have a fresh load rained down on you.

I listened to yesterday's podcast and I have no idea. That's... Huh. Sorry, I can't help.

Well, Palmer believes you. Actually, Palmer is well versed in whatever you're talking about. I just said I have no idea what he's talking about. He's in denial.

He doesn't want to chime in front of other people, but he knows. He knows. He loves a good fresh load. He loves it when it tingles.

I got to turn my chair or something. My head turning. Yeah, I know. I tried to help you with that, but I just stopped.

No, you moved the microphone. You didn't move the chair. That was the start. Yeah.

What if I put my camera over here? I mean, go ahead and move it around. Make your adjustments. Well, not now.

Next time. No, it's too late now. Right. Then I have to move that over here.

Oh, it's so much work. If we're bickering about camera positions, I'd love to move this one over here so I don't always have the profile view, but yeah. Oh, anyway, that's fine. We can adjust to you.

You can do that. Yeah. I think it's not even open all the way, the tripod. Yeah.

Because it leans up against this camera here. Yeah. P.? He's the guy that did the Florida song, but I didn't know.

Seminole Wind or whatever? Yeah. I recognize the song. Yeah, I know the song.

I didn't know the guy. I don't know the guy. I don't know the song. Isn't he like one of those one hit wonders?

Right, exactly. Apparently that's the anthem. Yeah. And there's still a state song.

Yeah. So now he's just adding stuff. That's cool. State Swan is Swanee River.

Way down upon the Swanee River. That's our state song. Yeah. That was nice that you knew that.

How do you know that? Is that part of being a cop? They make you sing it? Yeah, we line up and parade and sing Swanee River.

Sing the state song now. No, that's just weird stuff that stuck into me from elementary school. A plethora of knowledge. They taught you that in elementary school?

Well, I was an orchestra, so violins and all that. That one-room schoolhouse. Yeah, right? Right.

Where they beat the savage out of you and they make you a Catholic? at cw6383 says the new florida anthem is seminal wind by john anderson thank you and the state song is still old folks at home also known as swanee river i'm not lying there you go i'm so glad we have sigley wiggly on the show now are you good no no i know i gotta adjust it you're not happy What did you do with that? Well, I turned. Yeah.

Because my neck's starting to hurt. I like your turning. Yeah. Oh, look at that.

So now I'm like you. You're not like me. Just hanging out. I mean, you're more, but you're not.

You need to kick the leg up to truly match the ambiance. Yeah, yeah. Oh, no, I have to sit on mine so I don't slide out of the chair. Yeah.

I would say, you know, we can get new chairs, but we're really poor right now. Bring the ones back from your house. Oh, the blue ones? Go back to the blue ones?

Go back to the blue ones. We're breaking everything back, old school. Hey, hey. Microphones, chairs.

The blue ones aren't as extreme, aren't extremely comfortable though. No. Adrienne saw those at the, at the party. She's like, oh, those look good here.

Yeah. Oh yeah, I forgot. We wound up getting all four eventually, I think. I think we have all four of them in our house.

Oh, do you? Did we have four? We had four. Yeah, we got all four.

Oh. Those are, that's it for the comments. I still have my glasses on. Nobody said a word.

If you want to hear your comment, riddle out on the show, simply comment below on this YouTube episode or in the CH Pod Lounge. Now, let's get to the winner. By the way, Southpaw is Texas Southpaw. Yes, yes.

His package is on the way. His package is on the way? Took care of it yesterday. You took care of his package?

No, I sent him his prize package. You sent him his prize package? Yes. Okay.

Good job. Good job. Everything with you is sexual. Is you okay?

Everything with you is sexual. I'm just highlighting it. I don't think that's how it works. Yeah.

I don't think so. 18 years in the industry. You listen to C-Dub. You don't question me.

You understand? 18 years in the industry. Still can't get things right. You know what?

I'm not perfect. Just the guy that smokes a cigar would probably know what it's made out of. I never claim to be perfect. Oh, yes, you do.

What? Nothing. I don't claim to be perfect. I make mistakes all the time.

Don't make mistakes all the time. Oh, now you're lying to me. Let's see here. Let me get to this thing.

We should have Tim and Siggy on the same day one time. Wait, both at the board? That would be hilarious. Yeah, have you guys fight over the board.

His head here, my head there. Well, Siggy would have just come to this chair. Well, then where are you going to go sit on his lap? That would be cute.

I'll go upstairs. Just a one-time special forfer of the cigar. Well, we've done me, Siggy, and Tim already. Yeah.

And you've done you, Siggy, and Tim. Yeah. Is there a combination we have not done? No.

There's not in it. A Siggy solo show. Where he does it just by himself. God, no.

One camera. Just Siggy and Tim. Yeah, no, no Tim. Oh, no Tim.

Just Siggy. One hour of me staring uncomfortably at the camera. Okay. Adjusting your headwear.

Switching out headwear. Do you like the ears? Check out my chili. All right, let's see, we'll get a spin here.

You got to turn spin to the camera so they can all see their names. But C-Dub got mad, he said that his name wasn't in the spin. Well, it's because it's not under C-Dub, he didn't, he didn't know. Oh!

Okay, just for the record, I didn't see his name either. Oh, you didn't? No, no, I didn't see Chris's. Oh, it's C-Dub, it says C-Dub.

It's in there. I know it's in there. No, no, I believe you. I was just looking for it.

Maybe, maybe it just doesn't like it. Ed S one. Yeah, Ed S. I don't know who Ed S is.

I know who Ed S is. Okay. Well, you had the thing in front of you where it says his real name underneath it, or his whole name. Um, oh, you know what?

I didn't even do like the full screen thing. I just did the, the Yachty. Well, you can't redo it. Mm-hmm.

Unless you can make sure he wins the second time. Oh, cool. It doesn't even log the winners. That's funny.

Oh, you don't have like a... It says past Patreon winners and it says no winners logged yet. I'm like, okay, well, we've had... This is the second one.

Yeah. Well, congratulations, Ed. Congratulations, Ed. Email us and...

We have his email. I know, he actually emailed me yesterday. I mean, it's... But I like to make sure, you know what I mean?

Oh, you want him to acknowledge that he saw it. I have seen it. Gotcha. And I would like my skull.

Gotcha. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. If you want to be part of these cool giveaways, We got cool stuff to give away.

com, us, Cigar Houses Podcast, which will eventually be on the back end of the CHPod Lounge, but... Right. Okay, we are currently at 48 Patreon members, paid Patreon members. There's a lot of free ones.

I don't know why we have, we have like 10 or 12 free ones, which I don't understand, because we get nothing, they get nothing. So, but anyway... But we like them. When it gets to 50, let's do something special.

When we get 50 Patreon members. You want an additional, so we're doing a giveaway every month. Right. And then you want another giveaway.

Yeah, I'll come up with a prize. Okay. Well, I mean, we got that thing coming. Right.

But I mean, I have things in the cabinet. Okay. Accessories and things. Okay.

So we could do something. There's just two more. Tell your friends. Yeah, two more and we're going to dust something out of the shelf.

Out of the prize cabinet. Oh, the prize cabinet. Out of the prize cabinet. Something out of the decrepit corner of a section here.

Well, there's those companies that pay me to buy their stuff and then give them good reviews. They pay for the stuff. They don't pay me. That doesn't sound like anything appealing.

No, they're good lighters and cutters and things. I don't know. That's the kind of stuff that's in the prize cabinet. That's not really next level.

I mean, you got to bring it. Trying to think what else is in there. Yeah. I'll come up with something.

He's going to come up with something. And if it sucks, I'll fix it. Are you gonna draw on it? Yeah, I'm gonna draw on it.

Oh. Yeah, I'm gonna scribble on it. You're a scribbler. Yeah.

Right. Matt Booth does it all the time. People love him. Yeah, but he writes on toilets and things.

Yeah. And I marked on custom art. Yeah, but it's not good scribbling. I mean, we can scribble on a toilet and give it to somebody.

Yeah. I don't see why not. The shipping. It'd have to be local.

You got to pick it up. Why not us, Palmer? Why not us? Scribble on toilets?

Scribble on a toilet. I don't know. It doesn't have the same pop as if Matt Booth doesn't. I don't know if that's true.

He's known for his toilet scribbling. I've seen him do it many places. It's like his thing. We don't want to take his thing.

Are you with us? Are you texting people? What are you doing? I'm sorry.

The person you were trying to reach has a voice. Oh, no voicemail. He must be in a meeting. We'll call it twice.

Oh, still off. Matt Booth. I'm telling him, hey, if I scribble on a toilet. Maybe he's in the Dominican Republic.

Well, he was in China. He was in all kinds of things. He did a nice post on Y and a nice picture of him and his son. Did you see that?

It was nice. Yeah. I like Matt. I like Matt.

Matt's my friend. He's my friend, too. He can't be both our friends. Sure he can.

No, only one. Nope. There can be only one. Nuh-uh.

Yeah? That's what he told me. He told me that he's not really your friend, just don't tell you. Oh, wow.

He told me the same thing about you. Yeah. Right? Wow.

It's weird. Awkward. It is. Okay.

Ready to get on with the show? Sure. We're 20 minutes deep at this point. Okay.

Siggy, shut up. I will try. He's saving it for his one-man show. He's loading up, yeah.

Yes. He's just going to comment on everything that he should have commented on for the previous shows before that. Nice. In show 650, I would have said this.

Right. All right, here's the news. A company is offering humans $20 an hour to walk robot dogs. You don't look as comfortable as I do.

Sorry. Well, I need to turn towards the news now that I'm doing the... All right, re-pivot. There you go.

Don't pull anything. All right, the company is offering humans $20 an hour to walk robot dogs. San Francisco's startup company, Dimensional. I'll get to it.

Why are we walking? This is dumb. I have to go poop. The fake dogs have to poop?

No, that's what I, you know, that's what you think when you hear it. They have to fake poop? They're advertising for people to walk robotic dogs through public areas, according to a UPI October 28th report. What they need you to do is they need to teach the dogs the area.

Yeah, just like driving around in the Waymo, teaching the Waymo where everything is. Right, shove the dog in the Waymo. Oh my God. Apparently it has to walk.

And put some food in the boat. You know what I'm saying? It has to walk. Once I think of everything, this is ridiculous.

It pays $20 an hour with walks lasting four to six hours. Six hours of walking? $20 times six. That's not enough.

You're just walking. For six hours? You're walking as this robot dog follows you around. What if I get hungry?

Eat the robot dog? I have to eat the robot? What if I wanted something to drink and I ran out of water? You stop.

Can I 7-Eleven get a Slurpee or something? You can go anywhere you want for the six hours. With the dog? Yes.

What if there's no dogs allowed? It's not a real dog, Mike. It's a robot. I gotta walk it like a real dog?

No, you don't. I mean, you don't have to have a poop bag with your anything. I would carry a poop bag. Just to be funny.

Yeah. Normally, those are small and they fit in your pocket. I'd act like it was out of control at times, like, "Sit! " Well, that's the problem.

They tried just turning the dogs loose, but they would get lost and not go where they were supposed to go. Did the robot dogs also grope people? Is it a groper? Completely different robot.

Did it have a mustache and a chain? And sunglasses and a gold chain. Was it groping? And was it German?

Was it German? You need to be able to handle approximately 35 pounds, including carrying, in case the dog breaks, sometimes they break, you have to carry it back. Do I get paid overtime in that scenario? I want double pay, have I got to lug this thing?

No, sometimes you don't have to. Yeah, but if it goes wrong, I feel like there should be a bonus. The company purchased the robot dogs from Chinese manufacturers. So it may work, may not?

Yeah, for $2,000 each. Okay. All right. This is ridiculous.

The walks collect real world data to help develop software for robots intended to perform physical labors. So they're taking the information, the dogs walk. Right. Obviously.

Yeah. So then they're taking all the information the dog gathers and put it in other robots. This is dumb. Why don't you just strap a camera to a guy's head?

Because it's the data from the walking, not a visual recording. Okay, so but like you attach it to a person and you're gonna make that person walk around. Look, I don't make the robots. I don't make the programming.

This is what has to happen. It doesn't even make sense though. Well, you don't know how robots work. Yes, I do.

No, you don't. No, you don't. Just because you talk to Claude, he's not a robot. He's a program.

He is a robot. And I've been 18 years in this industry. I know exactly how a robot. Is that going to be your thing now for everything?

Yeah, yeah. I've had 18 years of cigar industry. I know how the appendix come out. Exactly.

I want to say that all the time now. So you start walking the cute 35-pound robot dog to train the 300-pound robot mastiff, I guess? Is that what we're saying? Right.

No, no, the stand-up robot, the Groper. Yeah, you know, after they program the dog where everything is in the city, and then they can put it into the Groper, which is what now we're calling him, and the Groper can run around patting girls on the butt. See, realistically, I think the better approach here would have just make T-800s, you know what I mean, and have them walk around. And terminate people?

Yeah, well, this is where, that's how I would start, right? Like, these things are going, oh, they're collecting data. It's just T-800 just walking around. Just walking around.

Well, still somebody would have to go with it. No, I would let it go by itself. What if it gets lost or breaks down? We would have it shoot up a beacon for someone to come scoop it up.

Beacon? Yeah. A flare? Yeah, yeah.

Where it's just kind of frozen. A drone just hovers over the top of it? Yeah. It wouldn't last in Philly, though.

You couldn't bring them into Philly. Unattended, they'd be destroyed. Well, there was that one robot they tried to get it to hitchhike across America. They did.

No, they didn't try. They found it in a ditch, stripped of parts. Yeah, first of all, they got it to hitchhike when it wound up in Philadelphia. Oh, is that as far as it may?

That's where it died. That sounds like a success to me. Exactly what would have happened to a hitchhiker happened to the robot, right? Right, exactly, same thing.

We're tracking the data here and don't hitchhike in Philly. I mean, you'd think they would have known, hitchhikers end up in ditches. Why would a robot hitchhiker not end up in a ditch? Well, they want to see where it would.

Oh, is that what it was? Yeah. All the other states, fine. I like that Florida gets the bad rap.

You know what I mean? Right. Meanwhile. It didn't end well.

I don't think it went through Florida. I think it went east to west. You know what's funny too though? It's like Pittsburgh, it's like the nicest people.

It is, isn't it? We do well in Pittsburgh too. It's so, it's incredible. Alright, you know what a capybara is?

A capybara? Yes. Yeah, it looks like a furry baked potato the most. Okay, you were next, but I know he didn't know.

No, no, you're okay. You're okay, that's fine. This is it looks like a furry baked potato? It's a large rodent.

Oh, okay. Like dog-sized rat. But it has no natural enemies. Okay.

All right? So like it interacts with crocodiles. Wait a second, were these on like the Real Housewives or something recently? Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, when they were over in whatever country that was. Yeah, I saw those. I feel bad that that's a reference you used. We both knew exactly.

This is my life. So I saw... But there's a local place here in Orlando where you can do it too. We can go see the cabby bars.

Stephen has taken his Chinese girlfriend there. Oh, really? Yeah. Anyway, they got two for a zoo in England.

What do you do with these things? Oh, you just pet them. That's it? You pet them and feed them stuff.

They're very docile. They're not aggressive. They're not afraid of people, because they don't understand what people are. So, like...

You can pet them, you can play with them. They're like big, fat guinea pigs. And this thing was like, did we genetically engineer this thing? No, no, they found these out in the wild.

And it survived? Yeah, they have no enemies. There's no enemies. Nobody wants to eat them.

Nobody wants to eat them. Nobody attacks them. They don't attack anybody. How have they not like overpopulated the world at this point?

I don't think they mate very often. No? They're not very attractive animals. They're not, they're like, ugh.

Even we don't like what we look like. Yeah. Right. Anyway, a zoo in England bought two of them.

Okay. Within 24 hours they escaped. We got a go. Right, we're out of here.

How does a capybara escape a zoo? Yeah, I'm not sure how that works either. They are the, oh my. It's the Marwell Zoo in Winchester, England.

Well, we're going to leave this door unattended and wide open. One of them they caught right away. Yeah. The second one's been on a run for seven months.

The other one's been on a crime spree. On the run for seven. Seven months. Every once in a while it shows up on a wildlife camera somewhere near the zoo.

Really? And they can't catch it. Oh, he's an elusive capybara. Yeah, so this thing that's not afraid of people, has no aggression.

It's like a baked potato. It's just walking around the streets of England, and they can't catch it. That's amazing. Okay, here's what scares the hell out of me.

Mammals held by the Manchester Zoo, Asiatic lions, Sumatran tigers, Asian elephants, snow leopards. Wow. If they let the capybara escape, I don't want to live in that city. Yeah, I hope they do a little better with the aggressive animals.

You know what they had? Like, Jerry was in charge of the capybaras. You know what I mean? Like, we don't trust Jerry with the other things.

Oh, okay. Jerry's not allowed near the Sumatra Tiger or whatever he just said. Yeah, like, Jerry, he's in recovery, and he's trying to find his footing in life. He's not doing a lot of things great, but he does show up on time.

And the best ability is availability, right? So, because he kept showing up, this is what I heard, that they had to put him in charge of something. And they figured, well, he couldn't f*** up, let's not do the, you know, give him the cabybaras. Right.

If they get loose, nobody gets hurt. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, and not only did he mess that up, he's also head of the task squad for finding them. Task force?

Yeah, that too. Right. The squad and the force. Oh.

They've merged. Yeah, they put traps out. Yeah. They've installed more cameras around the outside of the zoo.

Yeah, that's not working. Well, they get good pictures of it and it enjoys the food and the traps, but they can't catch it. That's amazing. It's just running wild.

This giant furry potato is just enjoying its best life in England. The KTF task force. I think that that should be like thrown in someone's face later. Like, you know, you say we do all these things wrong, but like you can't even catch a copy bar.

You know what I mean? Right. You know, like because the campaign things are rolling right now. Sure.

Like you ever see all the commercials? Right. Bob Hill is a rapist. Like all the crazy saying.

Allegedly, if there actually is a Bob Hill. I don't think there's a Bob Hill. You know what I mean? But there's...

Some of the stuff is insane, you know? Right. Joan hasn't returned her library books in six months. Right, yeah.

And we want to trust her with tens of dollars in the treasury? You know what I mean? Ooh, tens of dollars. Yeah, tens of dollars.

Very big school district. Tens of dollars. You know? Amendment 3 is the death for all taxes or something.

Whatever they're doing, that one's got all the cops on it, I saw that one. Yeah, they don't like Amendment 3. So I want this town to be attacked on a campaign is what I'm saying. It's in England.

Yeah. I don't think they have campaigns. They definitely have campaigns. No, they have a king and queen.

You're going to tell me there's no campaigning? No. There's no voting? I'm going to campaign to be king?

There's sort of a birthright thing. There's no voting? What's it called? Siggy?

The prime? Yeah, they have the houses of parliament. The King and Queen are just figureheads at this point. They have very little political power.

They're just, they're like capybaras that the English keep in a zoo to look at. Yeah, they got a lot of money, they don't do jack. They are the capybaras of the world, you know, of the English parliament. They don't fornicate often, you know, you can pet them.

I don't think you're allowed to touch them. Yeah, no, you can get granted access. No, because Tom Cruise touched, what's her name, helped her down the stairs, and it was a big hubbub. You can't touch her.

Right, you're not supposed to touch her. He's Tom Cruise, though. I think he does whatever he wants. Do you know who, I heard Digger did bad in the movies.

Yeah, I heard it's not doing well. I want to see it. Yeah, well, it'll be out on streaming here soon. I can't wait.

It'll be out on streaming. I never saw Odyssey, either. Odyssey, I'm not familiar with that one. You're not familiar?

Oh, Odyssey. The movie, I know what the Odyssey and the Iliad is. He's not familiar with the Odyssey. Homer.

Why didn't you go see that? What? Why didn't you go see that? When?

I don't know. Here's what happens in my life. Can't you take Claude to the movies? " Oh, so the kids have, that don't really seem like a kid movie.

It doesn't track. I don't think Teddy's going to enjoy that. No, no. " Because it has an extra eight minutes of, and it tells you something about Doomsday or whatever.

I was like, oh, so you want me to sit for three hours to see a movie that I've already seen, but drop 100 and change to see it for eight minutes? And you just Google it and watch it on YouTube? Probably, right. Probably at this point.

Stream it on your patio. Yeah, you're right. We're gonna stream it. And a related story, I don't exactly which zoo it was, but there was a, the lady takes care of the snow leopards at some zoo, got eaten by the snow leopards.

How does that happen? They don't know why she was in there because you're not supposed to be in the enclosures with the animals alone. Yeah. But apparently she went in there for something.

Somebody drop a hat or something? I'm not exactly sure. I'll get that hat for you. Don't worry.

I'm friends with... She was able to get her hands on her radio and make a call for help, but she died later at the hospital. It attacked her head and neck. That's terrible.

It is terrible. But it's not a cabby bar, though. It was a snow leopard. A little more aggressive.

What are we doing? It's because there's a lot of people getting attacked by animals lately at zoos. Yeah, we just had one of these stories last week, I think. Yeah, the guy that went into the tiger enclosure.

A couple weeks before that, there was the kid that was thrown in with the alligators, crocodiles. Seems to all be in the European zoo area. Well, what happens is, like, one of these things happens, and they see that it tracks... Oh, so they want more.

on media. So people are going around pushing people? No, no, I think that it happens all the time, but once they realize that people were like, oh my god, look at the views, like, okay. Really, you think it happens often, and we just don't hear about it?

Correct. I don't know, it's pretty sensational news every time it happens. No, I mean, but like, okay, so. So, let's say today we don't hear a story about an animal eating somebody at the zoo.

Okay, all right, well, hold on, hold on, time out, time out, all right, like the big one was like Harambe and stuff like that. Yeah, it started with the gorilla. Alright. You just told me about two giant hamsters that are on the run.

Right. See what I'm saying? Yeah. That made media.

That made news. Because it's linked to the fact that animals... That was... No, that wasn't trending.

Okay, go ahead. See what I'm saying? Yeah. Well, I mean, there's only so much news you can do.

Yeah, yeah. So what happens is like, oh my God, like this, a few weeks ago you showed me the idiot that went into the tiger. Yeah, the guy. Right.

No. Bad type. Don't do that. Don't bite.

Right. And you're right, that doesn't happen a lot. They're like, well, okay, but zoo stuff is tracking. Like, oh, they've got these big hamsters that have wandered off.

That should cover, like, let's do that one. And people are, you see what I'm saying? And here we are. We're talking about, what, Cappichula, what are they called now?

Cappi Barres. And I think you're actually right, so I just googled, in the last couple weeks, Yorkshire Wildlife Park, 24-year-old man named William Chapman died after the climbing the fences in Doncaster, UK, in the Ichikawa Zoo in Japan, two men arrested after scanning the fence to punch a monkey inside the fence. In the Delhi Zoo, a 28-year-old man entered a lion closer while intoxicated and survived unharmed, and in the San Diego metropolitan zoo entered a lion escape during a suicide attempt. Two lions were euthanized by staff to say the man's, no, let the guy go.

Yeah, he wanted to go. This is what he wanted. Don't kill the lions. They're just doing lion stuff.

Yeah, turning the lions. Yep. But this is like, it's an habitual thing. We're just hearing about it, I think.

Correct. Oh. That's correct. It's tracking.

We're going to have a daily. It's trending. No, the problem. Okay.

So like you're at this lull right now. Right. Like as you get a little bit closer to elections, that's when you're going to see the racism stuff pop up and all this other crap. It's a racism story.

Yeah. It always happens. It's the same. I could set my clock to it.

This is how media works. You know? It's ridiculous. This is why I don't get news from anybody but you.

It's just much easier. People are like, did you see that on CNN? I'm like, no. Did you see that on Fox?

I'm like, no. Well, what side do you listen to? I'm like, neither. They're called stories for a reason, and you're falling for it.

You know? I'm not falling for it. I'm not talking about you. You said you're falling for it.

In general, I'm talking about a conversation I have with somebody else. Oh. Did you red light today? No, I haven't had time.

No. No, you clearly... Okay, whatever. Carry on.

I don't want to. All right, this has been Cigar House Podcast. Thanks, everybody. You're not being nice.

How am I not being nice? A Florida murderer... I wasn't even talking about you. A Florida murder defendant offers to plead guilty.

Okay. For a cheesesteak. For a cheesesteak. Robert Kessler, 74, proposed the exchange during jury selection in the Hillsborough County on October 26th.

He said he would accept life in prison in exchange for a Philly cheesesteak, fries, and a Pepsi. Just the one? Just the one. I'll run it over for him right now.

Hell, you know what? I'll door dash it. He specified onions and mayonnaise on the sandwich. You gotta have onions and mayonnaise on the sandwich.

Okay, no, no, listen, I get it. Life in prison? No problem. Saying the arrangement would save taxpayers money.

Judge Nick Nazarita rejected the proposal. It's not like a good deal. I mean, it's like 12 bucks. Yeah.

Explaining that food could not be offered as an incentive for a guilty plea. I don't think there's a list of things that could be accepted for a guilty plea. Apparently there is. Kessler then declined the open plea and asked to proceed with the jury trial.

Siggy, in your experiences, have you ever gotten someone to cave for like a sandwich or something? For a cheesesteak? But when you're doing the police interview, you can't entice their confession. However, you put enough coffee and cake in some gut buddy and wire them up and they just want to talk and they talk.

Oh, is that a thing? You sugar them up with the donuts and stuff? Believe it or not, yes. People usually just give it up.

Yeah, they say never take the donuts. Yeah, I killed that. I haven't even asked your name yet. That is so damn true.

People want to talk to you. The only way you can mess it up is by talking yourself, like talking over people. Right. People want to fill the silence.

So you've been in a room where you've looked at the other officer and I'm like, just shut the **** up. Like, stop talking. We got this guy. Like, it'll be done in one second.

I know you like the sound of your voice, Officer Tim. Shut up for a second. Shut up. He's gonna say it.

That's incredible. Ah, surprisingly, he's representing himself against charges of first three murder and abuse of a dead body. He didn't overkill it, then he did things. Oh.

Evolving the 2021 death of Stephanie Koronaholt, 47, the meal proposal did not result in a guilty plea. It didn't result in a guilty plea? No, he didn't. They didn't take the deal.

The judge wouldn't let him admit it based on the sandwich. Our system is so flawed. You know what I mean? Because they wouldn't take the sandwich deal?

It's just part of it. I mean, what's the result? I don't know anything about this case, but it's- Yeah, no, I don't know anything about just that other than he likes Philly cheesesteaks with onions and mayonnaise. I mean, but it sounds like a lot of things, like, okay, it sounds like first-degree murder, abuse to a body, and somehow they have it tied to this man.

74, so, I mean, you know, how much time did his earlier left? He's an older gentleman. He's an older guy. And, like, even if he pled guilty, even if he said, you know what, screw the sandwich, guilty, like, alright, life in prison.

Right. What are we doing? Don't know. " Can you specify that on your- But if he just had said life in prison, you know, I don't get that.

So the cheesesteak outright is what draws the line. I don't have a law degree, that I don't get. Can you make that agreement? " Yes, yes, absolutely.

I'll plead to five years, don't give me life. If I'll plead to probation, don't put me in jail, we can avoid the cost of the trial, that absolutely happens every day. Wow. So, if he pleads to it, then you still go, okay, death penalty.

Does he have any recourse? Or is it like written in the agreement he signs? No, yeah, that's what a plea agreement is. It's an agreement to the plea.

Well, I didn't know how, you know. Yeah, that's how it works. Well, I didn't know how much they stuck to it. Like, I mean, the guys that convicted felon at that point are like, you know what?

Screw that deal. Siggy's way smarter than both of us. There's no double-take-backsies in the legal system. Don't take-backsies?

I had my fingers crossed when you signed it, so. Hangin' you tomorrow, buddy. Check this out. That's right.

Got 'em. Both of them. " Uh-oh. " Get him outta here.

Get him outta here. You know what, just hang 'em out front. There's a big tree out in front of the courthouse. All right, switching into cigar news.

Okay. Plasencia El Año de la Cabrera slated for November. After getting previewed last month, Plasencia's Year of the Goat Cigar has been formally announced. The Year of the Goat.

The Goat. The Plasencia El Año de la Cabra. Cabra must be Goat. Cabra?

C-A-B-R-A. C-A-B-R-A. Cabra? Cabra.

Cabra. That's what I said. Cabra. Cab.

25x60 Perfecto that uses a wrapper from Honduras over a Honduran binder and fillers from Honduras and Nicaragua. Plasencia says that the Nicaraguan fillers were grown under its organic farming program. What is that? I don't know.

Are you texting them to find out? I'm trying to see how you say goat in Spanish. I think it's cabara. Cabara?

No, no, that's the potato animal. animal this is the seventh consecutive year the placentia has released a cigar for the chinese lunar new year and the associated zodiac calendar chinese new year 2027 which takes place in february on february 6th will ring in the year of the goat perhaps most notably this is the first time that a placentia lunar new year cigar has been made in honduras what is it cabra cabra cabra cabra cabra All previous versions were rolled at the company's factory in Esteli. The Cabral. The goat represents a quiet but powerful strength, the one that comes from Plasencia, balance and instinctive connection to nature, said Nestor Andre Plasencia in a press release.

So they're associated with the goat. He didn't say "bah". Maybe later is the second paragraph. Could have been a response.

Those qualities are deeply connected to how bad our family has approached tobacco for more than 100 years. We bought tobacco for more than, oh, we didn't, we bought most tobacco for more than 100%. Ah, there's more, bringing the philosophy of the goat, under, and tobacco. Goats are important, we love goats.

Expression that is both distinctive and deeply kind, goats taste good, we like goats. So many goats. As with past releases, the packaging relies heavily on red and gold, two colors that have special significance in China. Goat skin.

A lot of their boxes are red and gold. It's very, isn't that China oriented though? Well yeah, but I don't mean just the goat box. They have other boxes that are red and gold.

Yeah. There's only so many colors. You know what I mean? You do blue, you do black.

They use all those. Each box comes with 10 cardboard sleeves that are included in case people want to gift individual cigars. Oh, that's nice. Oh, it's made for giving.

Mm-hmm. Well, Cinzia expects the goat cigar to ship in early December. It is a good goat. St.

Louis Ray, Iroa 3. Moving right into it, okay. And then the next one. We've made fun of them significantly now.

Yeah, that's fine. Mock the man, Nestor. Like the biggest tobacco-grower. Right, exactly.

Right, I don't think we can insult anybody else in that story. At that level, yeah. Right. Okay.

What happens when we roll around again to the year of the rat? Do Liga and Plasencia fight for that? Yeah. Yes.

Yeah. Like Gurkha. It was like Gurkha with the dragons. Right.

Yeah, exactly. You guys can't do that. Oh. But we're going to.

Is that a rat year? Yes, there's a year of the rat. There's a Chinese year of the rat? Yes.

And a year of the monkey, the goat. The snake, the dragon. The snake, the dragon. I think there's a...

Tiger. Yeah, there's a tiger. Dog. Probably a horse.

Sigley Wigley is so worldly. He knows everything. I can go to a lot of Chinese places and read the napkin. Oh.

Was your dad Matt Booth? No. He took him many places so he would have a vast experience. Yeah, so he would be a citizen of the world.

You know, the first time I saw Matt Booth in the store, I just was wondering who that hairy hippie is. I had no idea. Oh, I like he calls him a hippie. But he's a cool guy.

Now that I know him, I just... The first time we saw... He's his friend, too. The first time we saw Matt Booth, I was like, well, you gotta get me the hell out of here.

Because, like, he honed in on my brother's accessories, you know? Right. " Like, we have to... We have to...

I have to leave. Yeah. This is weird. Weird.

I think he's going to dock with me. Yeah. Oh, we did that, but that was after. Oh.

Yeah. Never mind. St. Louis Ray Aroa.

You're just not witty today, buddy. 30th anniversary Maduro. No red light. Was announced at this week's 2026 TAA meeting, Altidus USA showing off the St.

Louis Ray Aroa 30th anniversary Maduro. Maduro. A new darker version of the line that is in collaboration between the Cigar Giant and Christian Iroa. I mean, that would make sense.

His name's on it. Yeah, it says Iroa. It says Iroa. Right.

The Maduro version features an Ecuadorian Habano Maduro wrapper. There's your Habano right there. Oh yeah? Thank you.

That's probably what you were confused with. Yeah, I mix up SLR and Nicarusica all the time. A Honduran Corojo Binder and a blend of Colombian and Honduran Corojo Filler Tobaccos. What did it say?

Panarero. Panarero? P-I-N-A-R-E-N-O-M-L-A-T-O. Panarero.

Panarero. Panarero. The company says that the result is a deep, complex, and flavorful smoking experience, with tasty notes of dark chocolate, dried fruit, and roasted coffee. Do you think they AI'd that?

Sounds like it, doesn't it? It feels like AI. It does. The cigars are made of Roa's Havana Cigar Factory, the facility formerly known as the CLE Factory, and offered in four sizes.

A 5x50, a 6x60. Why do they only list two then? A Robusto, a Toro, a Corona Gordo, and a Gordo. As we continue to celebrate this milestone, anniversaries we're proud to be able to build on the legacy of the original collaboration With the Maduro, we wanted to preserve the distinctive foundation of the original blend while delivering a richer, more intensive expression that remains truer to the character of St.

Louis Ray. All right. It's a natural evolution of the story we started together. I don't know.

Is anybody excited about this? I mean, it's cool that Roe is doing something, but still an SLR. You know what I mean? St.

Louis Ray. Like, that's your 60 and above range age bracket, you know? Right. You know what I'm saying?

Aren't these the ones wrapped in the white tissue? No, that's El Rey de Mundo. Oh. Oh, well.

Oh, no, that's Hoya de Monterey. Maybe both. You've been 18 years. 18 years.

I know what it is. It's the one with the tissue. It's the Nicarustica. Oh, the Habano one.

Yeah, with the tissue. Gotcha, right. Mbob Bay Cigars is shipped to limited edition releases and introduced the pyramid format to its portfolio. You familiar with the pyramid?

Is it triangle? It's not a triangle? It's more of a cone, I think. It's a cone?

I think it's more cone-ish. Spherical? Yes. Quesara Pyramid 2020 and the...

Quesara. No, Quesara. K-E-S-A-R-A. There's no Q.

Quesara. Quesara. Quesara. And the MQBA.

How do you say that one? MQBA. Only one vowel. Click your name.

McBook. McBook. Mariora Pyramid 2019. Both measure 6x54 ring gauge and are available at tobacconist-carrying in Bombay.

The release totals 16,600 cigars Divided between 834 numbered boxes Of the Quesadra pyramid And the 826 numbered boxes of the 10 M'Qubaba M'Qubaba M'Qubaba M'Qubaba Right M'Qubaba Why do you say the Q? You think it's silent? I don't know M-B-A No, but like you announce it as the letter Not like a sound that it makes? Well, what sound is a Q, mate?

I don't know Q I mean, Cuba. Yeah. Cuba. That's how they think they spell Cuba.

That's how they think they spell Cuba. That's how they think they spell Cuba. What do you mean they? The people in Cuba.

Oh. They're racist. They're known to be uneducated because the government doesn't want them to be educated. Oh, really?

Yes. Oh, Cuban people are stupid is what you're saying. I didn't say that. I got it.

You don't have to be educated to be smart. You don't have to be educated to be smart? No. Okay.

I never got higher than high school. I would consider myself a smart person. He'd consider himself smart? Yes, I would.

Who do you think runs all this? I plug in the wires. Who figured out how to plug all this stuff in? I believe the original statement was, you want to do a podcast?

Sure, I'll do a podcast. Okay, figure it out. I'll see you later. And then you walked away.

The company says these are its first sizes beyond Toro and Robusto and does not expect to produce them again. And eight years later, we have tens of viewers. It's too long. We can't make anything but Toros and Barbosa.

That's it. It's too much work. We're out of here. We made these, isn't it?

Production was limited by a finite lot of tobacco and the availability of a single roller at the company in Costa Rica who knew how to make products. They got one guy. One guy can make these. Sometimes he shows up, sometimes he doesn't.

Right. Yeah. Cigars rolled in 2020 and 2019 respectively and held for aging before release. These aren't ready.

We have to sit on these. They're six years. Yeah. Well, seven.

It's almost 2019. It's almost 2019? No, some of them were rolled in 2019. " No, I said some were rolled in 2019.

Look, go back to your texting. You're not paying attention to the show. I'm not texting. Is it nap time?

No. I think it's nap time. It's almost... You think it's nap time?

It's almost time for What's the Score, so... Siggy, shut up. Get your nap ready. We have one roller who could make the shape in one lot of tobacco.

Well, we got this tobacco. Where's the one guy? I'm texting now. I had like three people call me in the past five minutes.

5 minutes. Steve Hernandez, John Carney, Michael Rosales. I didn't answer it because I wanted to be focused on you. So busy.

Well, the only one you answered during the show is your wife. That's right. And she has not called. It's so weird.

She called right before. Oh, gotcha. I mean, we have a set time we do the show at now. It's true.

Did you tell her that? She called at 11:59. Good for her. And she's adhering to the schedule.

" There's a lot of stuff here about this cigar. It's a $30 cigar. That's cool. Comes in boxes.

This guy seems like a good dude. I've messaged him a little bit. Yeah, I interact with him on social media sometimes. He seems nice.

Yeah. He smokes and he likes our stuff. Yeah, I haven't seen Adrian since I said, oh yeah, we're interested in carrying some stuff. He's like, oh, yeah.

All right, all right. Oh, you want to carry this? Okay, I'll see you later. All right.

Boom. Gone. Ooh, Mayura is a Sanskrit word for peacock. Ooh, like a peacock.

So these are named after peacocks. Like a peacock? Yeah. Is there a peacock on the box?

I don't know. Well, I haven't seen the boxes. It's time for the industry's favorite game. What's the score?

Can you predict a cigar score from a halfway review before it's revealed? We'll give you clues. You make your guesses and the review unfolds. The answer gets closer or does it?

The closest guess wins. Let's play What's the score? Today's cigar, Kraft Marquette Scuttlebutt. Oh, Scuttlebutt.

October 28th, 2026, reviewer is Brooks Whittington, the Cigarzy, Romacraft, Marquette, Scuttlebutt. Sigly Wiggly, would you like to go first or second? I'll go first. Okay.

Uh-oh, what's he doing? Oh, he's picking numbers. He has dice. I wonder what the dice are for.

He's got dice. Okay, I'm gonna see if I'm better than the dice. But I'm gonna go with a 90 while I see what the dice say. Let's see what the dice say.

If I'm better than the dice, I'll win, 'cause I'm notoriously bad at this, but I'll go with 90. What do the dice say? Answer what you want to know. The dice say 104 minus 11, 12, 13, 14.

The dice say 90. Okay, I'm going with 90. I'm going with 90. How did the dice say 90?

How did we do this? Well, you roll six dice. Oh, you have six dice. No, four dice, six.

Four times six is 24. Roll whatever the dice say, subtract it from 104, And you'll get a number between 80 and 100. Wow. The dice say 90.

How do you know the 104? I just would have did two dice. First and second digit. The higher number would be the first digit.

I could have done that too, but I'm going with 90. The way I've set up this random thing says 90. All right, he knows what he's doing. Don't tell him how to do it.

You got an abacus over there too? I will bring an abacus next week. Okay. I'm gonna go 91.

We'll go 91. All right. Decides. Who did it?

Brooke. Brooks. Okay. Any other questions or can I keep going now?

What's the meaning of life? It's not included here on the teleprompter. I'm sorry. No.

If you'd like me to include that in tomorrow's show, I can do that for you. I've asked. So, yes. All right.

It's advertised as a four and seven eighths by 48. The review table listed at four and five eighths by 48. Oh, they're off. Oh.

Come on. Factory is Nicasueño in Nicaragua, it's a $10 cigar, a bundle of $10 for $100. Cigars smoked, $3. Sigly Wiggly?

90. No dice? I rolled the dice once, I'm not questioning the dice. Oh, so the dice doesn't change.

The dice roll. Only the same one time. Yep, it's the one time. It's like the bones, you throw the bones.

Right. Yeah. To my theory that the score has nothing to do with the description. He's not going to be in at all.

He'll have bones next week. Bones next week? Bones? Yes.

91. He's going to wear a witch doctor's hat. Perfect. He's going to have a bone between his, like through his nose.

A bone through his nose? Yeah. All right, so Necudor and Habano wrapper, 18 years. Yeah.

Over an Indonesian binder with Dominican and Nicaraguan fillers. So they're copying Nicarusica, got it. Yes, exactly. That's where you got the idea.

He called Nick. I told Mike it wasn't Habano, so go with that. Is that it for your clue? That's the, yeah, I'm not sure where the blend usually wraps in it.

It sounds like it abrupted, but I know it does, the clues are on the road. Okay, S-Dub, what you got? I got no reason to change from 90. Holding fast at 90.

Holding fast at 90. I'm holding fast at 91, even though the size is a little off. If they take points off for being a little bit too short or too long, that's, but... Like this one's ridiculously wrong.

Taste of roasted peanuts and creamy hay led into charred oak and cocoa. Supporting flavors include: expresso, leather, cinnamon, and citrus peel. Maple sweetness, and red pepper remained a complimentary pairing on the retrohale. That was like a buffet.

S-dub? I am tempted to go higher, because that sounds really tasty, but I'm sticking at 90. You're sticking at 90. 91.

Clue number two, all three samples deliver excellent draws and abundant dense smoke through the finish. Body settles at medium, while strength reaches medium plus. Average smoking time is 1 hour and 56 minutes. I am drawn to go higher again, but I'm going to stay tight at 90 because I know something's going to happen in the next part of the review.

91. The chili on his head makes me laugh. It's chili. Clue number three.

He's cold. Each sample requires one minor touch-up occurring during a different third for each cigar. The middle also varies between samples. One maintains peanuts and hay, while two emphasize oak and cocoa.

I'm still thinking, I mean, gut says go higher, because a cigar that is different every time you smoke it is kind of a good thing in my mind, but 90. Sticking on that dice throw. 90. Final thought.

The reviewer finds a flavorful, balanced blend at an accessible price, minor burn assistance in the main drawback, with the combination of flavor and value leaving a favorable impression. Gentlemen, what's the final screen? Oh, that's it. He says now stop here for the guest so Michael can't see the screen.

I'm going to say 90. I'm not going to go higher. I think I'm going to regret that, but I'm staying with 90. There's the yawn.

Just a yawn. There it is. And he had a three shot, so everybody got you. Tired.

Ray Charles yawn. Well, I can't say 90. Can't say 90. So I'm going to say 91.

Final score is 90. Holy crap. The dice win. The dice win.

These are staying right here. Tim can't touch them. Holy goodness. You will not let Tim touch your.

I'll tell you what, I'll put them in the tray, and they only come out on Ziggy days. Oh, that's hilarious. You lost to a pile of dice, Mike. 18 years.

18 years experience. Well, I couldn't pick the same number. Not 18 years of gambling, apparently. I couldn't pick the same number.

Doesn't matter. Well, you could have put the same number, then we'd all have been winners. No, final scores cannot match. They had got to be different.

Oh, okay. Oh, that's why going first matters. I got it. Yes.

Yes. Indeed. Indeed, it does. Do you have anything else to add, Mr.

Palmer? Yeah, you got beat by Dice. Just saying. You're going to get beat by me.

Save it for tomorrow's show. We need something for tomorrow's show. Oh, I do have... We can talk about it tomorrow, I guess.

What? Okay, there's a local radio show I listen to all the time. I want your guys' opinions. Okay.

So there's a local radio show I've been listening to for over 20 years. It's the Monsters of the Morning. 20 years experience? 20 years, well, yeah, they do.

But they have a young lady on the show who's been on the show for eight years. She is a wrestler of sorts, but last Friday morning, she got pulled over and allegedly got a DUI. A wrestler? Yeah, but she's also on the, she's been on the radio for eight years.

Okay. But she is probably at best like a B-level wrestler. She's not like WWE, although she, now the news story about her getting caught has been, has made, well, she didn't, caught, but she got pulled over, wherever it was. She refused a DUI is why, so in Florida, you cannot refuse to blow.

Don't lose your license. Yeah, you can't. Well, she hasn't gone to court yet. But they were talking...

When you don't blow, you mandatory six months. Oh, I guess so. Because they said if she came in for the show next week, she'd have to Uber in. Right.

Right. Okay. So, their question this morning was... So, it's made world news.

Okay. And their listener is a WWE wrestler. So, she is now the most famous person on the radio show. Okay.

All right. I don't know what she proposed today. Should they redo some things and include her in the promotions to get more clicks for their website and their YouTube thing? Like put her name first and put her picture in all the thumbnails.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And she could be innocent in all of this. I mean, just arrested. Ride that wave, baby. Yeah, they had a split.

I mean, two of the guys, one of the guys said no, not at all, the other guy wasn't sure, and then the third guy was like, yeah, now she's the most, you know, we've been carrying her for eight years, now she's more famous than any of us. The one guy that has an ego is like, no, no, no, we don't include, like he's, I am the star of the show, that's how he feels. Oh, that could be, because it's his show, he's the one who's been on it for 20 years. Yeah, big shocker.

Yeah, these other people sort of, you know, they come, sort of like our show, people fall away, people come back, that type of stuff. Yeah, but I got news for you. If Siggy went on a drunken tirade and got a DUI and all kinds of things, it would be the Siggy Show. You know, it would be Siggy's Cigar Hustlers podcast, is what it would be, without question.

Well, that's what they said. " And I forget what, I don't want to say her name on our show, but, you know, it is the Lorna Dune, you know, Monsters in the Morning. Right. Right.

Yeah. Until it faded out and then we just go back. Right. Yeah.

Okay. Just curious. What were you trying to do? I wasn't trying to do anything.

I just wanted your guys' opinions. I mean, I'm not sure which way I would go either because one of the guys was, you know, well, you know, she's our friend. She's got enough trouble. You know, we don't want to put her out in front of this.

Why not? And take advantage of it because he feels bad for her that. Well, it's got to be with her consent. And I think she'll consent for the cash.

Yeah, exactly. And it's one thing. It's like an entertainment show. Well, this is not a responsible living, you know, Alcoholics Anonymous show, it's an entertainment.

Right, well, the guy that said we should do it, he said, well, what she should do, she should, you know, come out against drinking, do some type of PSA work or something, public service announcement or thing, and then we just put her name in front of everything. No way. No way what? You don't go out PSA, off the jump.

That doesn't make any sense. Because a lot of the viewers, the people that are chiming in on that boy, they're just haters. Right? They're like, you know, they're anti-her and that establishment.

So if anything, she's got to press into it. Like, do what I want. You know who I am. The fans of the show aren't saying anything bad about her.

Somebody actually had written in, emailed them and go, look, here's what you should do, and suggested that. That's how it came up on their show. Like, they were really thinking of doing it. Okay.

But my point is that she shouldn't go out and start with the PSA. She shouldn't go out. Well he said after everything is settled, this is how you get your career back. You become a spokesperson against drinking and driving, against excessive alcohol, and so the fans of wrestling that may not like you will see you in a better light or something.

I don't know. I didn't mean to cause a big argument on this show. I'm just curious. I don't buy that for a second.

People don't lean into the apology off the jump. You gotta get there. Most people do. No way.

Sure they do. If she went on a tirade today and said, "Yeah, and I don't apologize for any of it," how many views do you think she'd get? I guess a lot. A tremendous amount of views.

Huge, through the roof. Yeah, but the radio show, whoever owns the radio company probably would rather they distance themselves from her slightly until this gets all settled. Okay, but if cash starts flowing in, they're going to be like, yo, we got to separate, you know, her opinion is flawed. You never know.

Well, then he's an idiot. Who's an idiot? The guy who says you can't do it. Oh.

Yeah. Are you okay? I'm fine. I feel like we're having two different conversations.

No, we're not. Okay. Do you understand what I'm saying, Sig? Oh, yeah.

You know, we clearly remember all when Johnny Cash went on an anti-drug, you know, PSA to get his career back. back and when Elvis did the same and when Snoop Dogg said stop smoking weed because you know he wanted to get his career back no the careers were fine right doesn't not necessary right exactly I mean Mike Tyson said some stuff you know what I mean and I remember it to this day like the PSA came much later well I didn't say when they do and I mean you did you said she She should come out and state this. Well, after everything settles down, that's what I meant. I said that's what the guy on the show said, I didn't say that was my opinion.

She hasn't said anything yet. No, I mean, it happened three days, it happened Friday. Right. Yeah.

Last Friday. She should just Uber in. She should show up drunk, that's what she's doing. That would be hilarious.

I've been drinking on the show. Because I got news for you, everybody would watch. Oh, sure. Yeah.

Like, you're not going to believe this. She just showed up to work, in the bag, and everybody would watch. Change that to a wrestling, Drunken Disorderly, yeah that should be her name, Drunken Disorderly, yeah everybody would tune into NXT or wherever she's at, yeah, no need for apologies, we don't apologize, we don't apologize, we didn't do anything, even when we do something, I don't apologize, all right, is that it? That's it.

Okay. Siggy? Nothing here. Chili?

Thank you very much. Palmer? Chili? Fine.

Nothing. Fine, I'm fine. Oh, you're talking to the chili on his head. Yeah.

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Show Notes

The crew opened with the show 650 banter, a Patreon giveaway and the Comments from the Lounge segment, including the dispute over whether a cigar's wrapper was Habano or broadleaf and talk of a possible 50th Patreon member bonus. News stories covered a company paying $20 an hour to walk robot dogs, a capybara still loose after escaping an English zoo, recent zoo animal attacks, and a Florida murder defendant who offered to plead guilty for a cheesesteak. Cigar News covered Plasencia's Year of the Goat, the Aroa 30th Anniversary Maduro from Altadis and two limited pyramid releases. They then played What's the Score? with the RoMa Craft Marquette Scuttlebutt and finished by debating how a radio show should handle a co-host's DUI stop.